If anyone finds this, it means my plan didn't work and I'm already dead. But if I can somehow go back to the beginning of all of this, I might be able to save her. Evan
"You can't change who people are without destroying who they were," Evan should have listened to that piece of advice he's father gave him.. Because later in the movie he tells Kay-Leigh that whenever he tries to help someone, something else goes wrong. Anyways, this movie is such a masterpiece and very original. One of my favorite movies of all time.
And thus, the only thing left to do is make Kayleigh upset on the day they've first met so that she and her brother Tommy live with their mother. At least no one else has to suffer anymore now that he created a new timeline where Kayleigh's father is likely arrested but never comes in contact with her or Tommy and that the kids are living well without him, though Lenny is still in Evan's life but otherwise doesn't go through trauma.
Butterfly Effect 2, and 3 are progressively worse. 1 was the only good one in the lot. The movie producers should have listened to the father, "you're only gonna make things worse!"
"That's bullsh*t. Y'know, I'll send you a postcard after I make things perfect again." Damn Logan! 😂😂 I actually don't know why that's so funny to me 😂😂👏👏
the part I like about this movie is the effect of predestination, no matter what he does, life has a way of twisting it out of his control. showing that no one can control our outcome, it's all predestined
funny the movie show the exact opposite to what you are saying, its only his obsession to get every single thing right from his perspective that leads him down a darker and darker path. he could have easily stopped time travelling after one of his tries if he wanted to
if you think about it, its possible that none of the significant (bad) events would have happened in his life if he never had those black outs; the reason he had the black outs was to go back and stop those bad events from happening... so this movie should have never existed.
+wzx33 No, the reason he has blackouts is because he read his journals, the first time by accident. So because he made journals and read them later, he screw up the first time and tried to fix it which made him screw up even worse. He is unable to ever fix it and that's why he killed himself tho. The weird part is that, the reason that this is possible is that he is never meant to be born or was already dead without him knowing (because he killed himself at the end of the movie)
Evan does play God and in the best way that ends the curse. He sacrifices his life (in the original director's cut) to save the lives of his loved ones. This is a very archetypal story that I don't remember hearing much discussion of on the commentary tracks. A substitutionary death to save many. Hmmmmm sounds familiar.
What would be in the point in that when pretty much Evan's story is technically the same thing,even in one of the alternate endings evan ends up in the same place as his pops.
@@GhostFan-ev4di I don't think so, he said that it was a curse.. Well if it's a curse, then why did he choose to have a son in the first place? He clearly said, "the cursed should've been ending up with me", doesn't it imply that prolly in the past, he did try to break the curse? I mean, there's a lot more to tell about it.
I've always wondered (theoretically) if an individual that could control temporal displacement realizes that the notion is a control battery no matter how many times they attempt to "Back to the Future" the situation. This movie portrays it perfectly, kinda like a dark Groundhog Day.
i like both jason & evans lines in this scene practically "just by being here you may be killing your mother" followed by "thats bullshit, ill send you postcard when i make everything perfect"
Jason knows that if Evan tries to use this weird curse to make things better it'll do more harm than good and he knows because he tried to do the same and look where it got him. Jason is right, you can't change something without causing other things to change too. People do believe that if they could turn back time and change something they did and make it turn out better, everything would be better but they never really think about how it might affect the outcome of things that follow after that.
In my opinion, they could have dragged out this scene a little. The dad seems so normal when you finally figure out what his whole deal is, to have him suddenly leap across the table and try to strangle his own son just for saying something arrogant was a little too sudden; though I can understand the reason for it, it should have been built up better. Otherwise, one of the most underrated movies of all time.
It wasnt for say something arrogant, was evan lack of understanding and his Will to keep messing with past, his father Saw himself un Evan, as the living course who can destroys the life of everyone around him, thats why he attempted to kill him
@@jasonharvote4093 Just to preface I'm not supporting his decision to launch across the table and strangle his son, but if you're trying to find his motive I think he felt like this was his only opportunity to end the curse once his son communicated that he wasn't willing to stop. Evan isn't just messing with his own life, he's playing with fire and all it takes is one wrong move to screw up the future of the entire human race.
The dad's backstory seems to be that his dad had all of the same troubles in life but worse. So at the point that he seemed crazy and was institutionalized (and both father and son had this point in their different life paths), the father let that life in the nut house be his life and took no more tries at trying to fix stuff in the past. The father wasn't crazy because he was in the institution, he was there on purpose, to save his loved ones! "Wow, ok but he tried to kill his son!" True but remember that he had that time travel power as well. He was trying to stop the son from making a bigger mess. He was trying to kill the son at that point in time, then later go back and change it all so that everything was once again stable, not great but stable, with him in the nut house and his son alive but not challenging the timeline.
I am certainly on your side. I believe he chose to live in an institution because of the other previous outcomes with a similar situation. I'm thinking that maybe something happens where his wife gets kills, both his wife and son get killed, he never meets his wife and possibly worse. This is why I was interested in Stein's Gate (currently watching it now) and so far they've been altering the world around them and making things worse!
Caden Rolland um. thats romantic. but dont you think the director just wanted to depict? all the father tried to do was to kill him, nothing more about time traveling
neon I'm sure they went over the father's back story. The writers like to go over a characters back story in order to flesh out the story fully even though it all can't make it to the big screen. The actors always want back story on their characters to find out their characters motivations and flaws. But the father was also a pivotal piece. The father and son had a short conversation about time traveling (an argument really). It brought up the question that if the father could time travel too then why was he an inmate locked away in a mental institution, and not a millionaire on a desert island in a mansion? For the same reason the son was having problems with time travel. This gives the story a huge problem (a seemingly unsolvable problem), stories need problems to solve. Impossible odds vs. Solutions. This gives the dramatic suspense we all love.
Wrong IMO because his son had the curse. "the curse has to end with me" "you could be killing your mother just being here" "I love you" He wanted him dead, but was trying to do the right thing. I do agree about him being in the nut house as the best answer to his never ending problem. To answer Caden, "why was he an inmate locked away in a mental institution, and not a millionaire on a desert island in a mansion?" Maybe in this reality is the only one where his wife lives just as Evan was always trying to help keliegh. I reread *my* comment and I feel like it gives off a pretentious know it all, but all IMO.
On rewatching the movie while knowing what only someone who has seen the movie already knows, Thumper's warning of getting involved again with the notebook entry about Mr Miller (Evan might get out of it more messed up than he was before) and Kayleighs words before killing herself (Things only get worse, that isn't going to change) take on a much more oracular meaning, especially as Evan is not in a position to understand the context until its too late.
beed to make a netflix series, first season should be about evans grandpa, who in a deleted scene was also confirmed to be somewhat crazy & probably started the whole curse that ended up w/ evan & his dad, & as the series goes move it onto evans dad, how he met evans mom & how he used this gift to try to unfix certain things in his life which ultimately ended up not doing him any good.
@KayCeya In the timeline were he killed Kayleigh, He was locked up in a mental institution much like Lenny when he killed Tommy in the other timeline. Being locked up, he wasnt able to write his journals, and as such he doesnt have any
They really never should have made a 2 and 3. They do not compare at all... I usually hate kid actors but they were really good in this movie. Well . Except 7 year old Kaylee, all she does is run away "crying" lmao Also hitting him on the back of the head would not have killed him like that, unless he was hitting him as hard as he could.... come on
I love Melora Walters very underrated actress I feel in love with her when she played Jessie in Boogie Nights and honest I think she should've won a oscar for best supporting actress in Magnolia cuz her performance was wonderful
yes it was confusing but this is the reason when they have the blackout to try to change things and make them better it changes the personality of the person so even though it is his father the personality of Jason (his dad) doesn’t recognise his son he has changed as a person and is someone else you might notice in certain parts how the characters are much different throughout the movie hope this helps probably not the best answer I could provide but this is my understanding of it
+D Rebal I did recently last year no I actually enjoy the storm I just don't like the directors cut ending I only like the Fiats going happy sappy ending but I actually do now like this movie I understand the message in it. I just can't seem to get into the sequel.
This curse runs through Evan's family. His father has it and tried to use it and ended up being declared crazy. Evan found some papers in the attic, saw they were about his grandfather and when he looked at them he said, "My grandfather was crazy too?"
Pretty sure I'm crazy. And I'm not sure if I can make this make sense like it does in my head. But if the blackouts are his older self going back, does that mean that it was always going to end the way it did? Like which came first the chicken or the egg? When he comes out of his black outs he doesn't know how he got there as a kid but his future self makes it happen to where he ends up exactly in the situation that he ends up in when he comes out of the black out. So his end, what ever ending you choose, was always going to end up exactly like it was. Does this make sense or am I just crazy?
He coulda fixed everything by going back and pretending to go near mailbox but dont..Tommy saves woman, becomes christian and evan doesn't get his arms blown off
He could have at least went AROUND the mailbox while Tommy saved the woman and her baby, assuming if he's far enough from it when it explodes. At least he'll still have his arms.
And yet, in the timeline in which Evan is an amputee, it's implied that despite the abuse Kayleigh and Tommy endured, they at least made it out and are happy
Getting hit full force with a blunt object to the back of the head by a person who's sole purpose is to be able to use that blunt object is pretty believable actually. People have been killed by less.
