8:40 the coach is "Spider", my first coach on track when I did the CSS in Spain. Nice to see him again since 2011. It was the best investment I did in motorcycle, and still learning. Since then when I ride, I´m analyzing my riding, as if I was still in school. Only doing level 1, the improve is spectacular. All bikers must do the course, to improve, for fun and for safe riding.
Great advice at the end, I did level 1 and 2 back to back not long ago and got SO much out of it (in fact the next time I went to the track I managed to get my knee down for the first time) but a friend I went with said it was a waste of money and she learnt nothing. When I asked her if she did the drills her response was "What drills?" haha enough said.
Did level 1 the same day, i found it pretty useful as I improved my turning points, quick steering, apex and body position, tuition was spot on and classroom sessions not so boring, will book level 2 in September.
Inane Observations haha unsure about the 4th for me as ive been told its more a rehash of the first 3 levels depending which part you need improving on. I'll have to see when i get the time really.
The 4th is where you work one-on-one with an instructor on anything you want to, or, they can see where you still need some work and suggest what to work on. When we did it long ago (nearly ten years!), it was actually very useful for road riding it turned out, and am still using the style we figured out today on the road - and it came about by trying something very different for track which we quickly twigged wouldn't work well on circuit so moved to other things. But by applying what we had developed there on the road, out of sheer curiosity, it was amazing! So it came about almost by accident, but it also wouldn't have happened without that one-one-one coaching, either.
Every bike rider from newbie to seasoned need to do a level 1. level 2 and 3 should be after a few trackways - the 2 and 3 classes cover too much for newer riders. Level 4 is custom and I usually do one a year to tune and overcome some of the plateaus from track.
Man I wish we have tracks in my town, really wanna try and test myself on the tracks. I've been riding for 10 years now and my routes are usually hilly zigzag and narrow roads. Really curious how I'd do on the tracks. 😄
Yeah I got a wee bit of spit drooling out of me mouth,Silverstone I want to live there,and donnington park two of my favorite track s,I love the way the turn layout into one another the flow is awsum...thanks...
Been there done that (all levels)... CSS helped me pin pointing all my mistakes and working on reparing them... next step is Racing School Europe with Troy Corser... RSE made me much faster.... All schools have their advantages and are great to make us safer and faster.... :)
You could always read A Twist of the Wrist Vol. I and II ($40) to get familiar with what they will teach. You can try it out on local roads. Most of the skills can be done at lower speeds. As long as you are not sliding the tires,. your series of positions throughout the turn (the infamous line) are the same, regardless of whether you are doing 70 or 35. You only have so much attention span so slowing down when you are doing something different and thinking and learning is sensible. And avoids those speeding tickets.
I took level 1 in Australia. was good but not that good. I'll vote for an hour of training one on one rather a day of training, with a one size fit all mentality
Hello all....Mmm I'm 67 and ride a BMW K1200S and i would love to do this course...i love Cornering & going fast and can But i would benefit from doing this....💫
Very nice to see man with gray hair , still want to improve knowledge. Not like "I'm old enough to know everything. And I know the best , what you kid's know" ? Or " I'm too old to learn" .. respect.
From what I could see he's a direct access, mid life crisis biker and too slow for his own good, I've ridden 44 years and can pick these out on every road when I come up on them, brand new state of the art bikes, brand new leathers/helmet, all the gear and no idea.
Aren't they terrible? Lol... I'm sure they're getting a huge discount from BMW and Ducati, but no discount from Akra or Termi, so why change them. (Those bikes all get wrecked anyway)
When I went to a race,I had to attend a brief school and the punch,the quick turn as they call it,I really took to it that punch of the bar to turn and bring the bike over into the corner was a technique that I ,well it was the only thing I was shown plus a slow ride,lap,to give you reference points and body movement as you came thru braking areas,so if you are in 100 percent record mode,that's great if not school is,superbike school a notch of safety in your belt,especially if your gonna do track days,the race track is so much more fun than the street no cars,they sweep and clean it for you,no intersections man hole covers,stops signs... Etc
I wonder what happens if you wipe out and damage/destroy one of those bikes? Do you pay for it or is that included in the school fee since it's a high possibility scenario. Anyone?
He asks the grey haired guy why he chose this course, to be told "he was conscious of other riders close behind him and felt he was slowing them down, then the thoughtful presenter promptly does exactly the same thing to the guy, maybe it makes him feel fast
The turn in points are more to show the benefits of quick-turn etc, then it's down to us to tailor what we learned to how we ride. You don't have to turn in 'late', however, do you feel comfortable turning when you do?
I've done all 4 levels. I did level 1 about 2 years ago now. I'm now racing. And I agree their tip in markers are quite deep. I ride at PI and at one corner, where their X would be for the tip in is in a ridiculous spot. Having said that, the problem with new riders is they tip in too early. And I believe the way they teach, for tip in, is to over compensate. For example. If they put the tip in points at the correct spots, a new rider who tips in too early, and starts hitting that X, will still tip in too early if the X was taken away.
Fast Bikes Magazine given that it is a school I went with what was taught and made a habit of turning in late. I guess I didn't know enough by myself when attending the school to experiment more whereas your level is already pretty high. Now I am working on "unlearning" that and playing with different turn-in points and lines (I think they do that drill in level 2 if I remember correctly). Another thing which will be a matter for a different discussion is CSS body position - Crafar teaches to sit "on the tank" in the corner whereas CSS's mantra is to sit back at all times to allow for easier movement. I struggled with faster riding until I broke with CSS's approach to body positioning. I think CSS' stuff needs to be balanced by attending other training like MotoVudu for best results.
It demonstrates a few things 1 how late you can turn in using countersteering 2 how early you can get on the gas 3 it opens up the corner so you can see further earlier Its a learning tool to get you to think and to build confidence. Having said that you can use super late tip in points and go around the outside of people on track days. Racing is slightly different as the other guys have more confidence in their front end and can just block pass you, park at the apex and take your line. A later turn in will always give you more line options, its up o you to exploit them
WholesaleTurbos arguably late tip in actually restricts your vision through the corner (e.g. Druids at Brands you have to have a hyper mobile neck to look at the apex) if you tip in late. It also opens up the inside line for enthusiasts to barrel in on the anchors and grab the line. Don't get me wrong, I am still trying to find the approach that would work for me and some corners (mostly left handers for some reason) are better than others with later turning.
Weight Transfer Tutorial from Midnight Club 3: Dub Edition Remix Time for bike school. The thing controls pretty similar to a car. If you continue to hold the brake down after you stop. You can walk the bike backwards. You can do a burnout by hitting the gas and holding down the handbrake while stopped. You can also steer while doing a burnout to quickly change direction. You can slide around the corner by using the handbrake. Here's an important bit to take a sharp turn and keep yourself out of the hospital. Press and hold the L1 button to weight transfer while steering to make the bike lean properly. If you want to pull a Wheelie use the weight transfer to pull your weight backwards while accelerating forward. Or you can Endo by braking and transfer the rider's weight forward. Same kind of deal. Good Luck!
LOL no brakes,Thank god for the V TWIN as a general rule ride the bike like its a missile, no sudden direction changes smooth into a bend and steady out:) SPEED/BRAKE/GEAR and everything after this is irrelevant :) 35 + years of biking has taught me this:) 125,350,400,600,1000cc
You forgot the 250, 300, 500, 550, 650, 700, 750, 800, 850, 900, 1100, 1150, 1200, 1500, 1600, 1800. Those 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 8 cylinders are great. Ever seen a 5 or 7 cylinder? Are you sure you didn't own a supermono? No nice KTM? No TRX perhaps? No LeMans?
Deliberately misses the point by reassuring the grey haired chap there’s always someone faster lol. Looks awkward hearing this as he thinks yeh right, but there isn’t anyone slower.
