Call of Duty Warzone 2.0 - PS4/Pro/Xbox One/One X Showdown - Last-Gen Competitively Disadvantaged? 

Lmao

that is called as addiction

Exactly….. Battlefield 1 is a better game than all these call of duty’s. Plus you have Rocket League, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls, Dark Souls, games of all different types.

It's true. I used to default to FPS games. Now I prefer Microsoft Flight Simulator. It even has chill background music.

If you get anxiety from playing games I hope you understand the game isn't the cause of that anxiety and you should seek help from a professional mental health expert. The game is the trigger, not the cause. You got deeper issues.

on pc turning off demand texture stream thing and making stream quality thing low makes game broken look. using intel xe thing and those turn on is makes game gerannly look good. other settings not important. making them low to medium looks same. the hdd only cause first loading assets not load fully but after a few match that issue gun. saying cpu is strugling bcouse of hdd is lie. yea maybe can strugle for 1.5 second.

The Xbox One X doesn't support M.2 drives, so either you're using a USB adapter or you're using the wrong term for a SATA SSD. If you're using an adapter, you wasted your money dedicating an M.2 drive to a console that's capped at 5gbps externally and 6gbps internally, and if it's an internal SSD, it might help a bit, but not as much as you think given that the console is already CPU bottlenecked and it takes CPU power to stream those assets faster. I'm sure it helps a little, but past the first minute or so once everything is loaded, it's doing next to nothing for you. USB 3.0 is capped at 5gbps and SATA at 6gbps, while M.2 can be several times faster, but if going through an adapter, would be less than those 5 or 6 gbps speeds due to how adapters work.

I mean they really don't have to synchronise anything they just use different consoles to spectate the same account. It's a wet dream for them because they get easy access to the exact footage across 7 different platforms.

Someone commented before actually watching the video! Lol

If the base resolution for the One X was 1440p or even 1080p, it would be great

Because they know X-box fans will kick off if they don't

Well for one the Xbox One S and Xbox One X are pretty much locked at 4K signals

they hate xbox

Because the gpu of the one x is more powerful than the pro's but the cpu is clocked lower. Therefore, the one x can handle higher resolutions and even if the resolution were to be 480p, the fps would still be pretty much the same. Correction: The OneX's cpu is faster than the Pro's, however, it is still pretty weak and it's going to bottleneck the hell out of the gpu at lower resolutions. The Pro is more well balanced than the OneX.

Console!

@@zeus1117what ?

Needless to say, how I suffered for that, the solution for me was, install the game on an nviem ssd, and adjust the frequency of the gpu to its maximum capacity, and reinstall the shadders

What's your specs? I'm on PC & it runs like a dream

All those fixed with an SSD! It was incredible to see what the PS3 could do. Is all about optimization.

I run around and look att shadows. My friends hate me😅

@@THmusic420 i did that when i first got my ps5 2yrs ago but now im like whatever lol

i do that with all my games, but im a graphics junkie🤷‍♂️ for me i dont care about framerate as long as it stays at or above 30, as long as the frame pacing is solid it doesnt affect acual gameplay too much. i always play with rtx on and as high of resolution as possible and run around looking for imperfections when i get bored

Seems like they're stalling forever so that they won't have to call out CDPR regarding the PC version.

@jackyvanmarsenille8547 Yeah, what gives? In hands-on from two weeks ago they mentioned it was coming on the 14th...

@@jackyvanmarsenille8547 they will lose a sub if that turns out to be true !

Was about to comment this. My guess is Alex is doing a very extensive breakdown of the Ray-Tracing and all its woes. There are so many problems on PC, it's taking DF longer than expected.

@@Venom_Byte Hope so !

cringe

@@Joespart9010 great movie as usual tom crusie.

@@Joespart9010 Great video as usual Tom. Thanks.

Input response on the controller is BRUTAL at 30fps. I'd take an u stable 50-60fps just for the reduced input lag.

It depends on how unstable it is I think. If you get noticeable slowdowns, I can imagine itll be rougher to aim/predict if movement suddenly chops up; compared to always have the same input lag and fluidity in the picture

For competetive it is. For a cinematic or single-player game it is a problem.

@@SolidBoss7 No it isn't. The input response on the controller at 30fps is nearly indestinguishible from 50-60fps. Almost the exact same experience.

VRR!

I believe Alex said on Twitter that he will be.

give them time they have a full plate rn and are catching up

"Tangible"?

Hopefully not waiting for CDPR to fix it so he can act like CDPR didn’t just BOTCH THE CRAP out of their Witcher 3 next gen update. But in truth I don’t think that’s what is happening, I’m sure Alex is doing extensive testing and will go very hard on CDPR coz honestly the PC version is a monstrosity, if he doesn’t go super hard on them that would be wrong, you can’t drag Gotham Knights through the mud then act like W3 update is not just as bad if not worse😬

@George that's all I'm waiting to see because I'm on a 4090 and it hasn't been a smooth experience at all so I'm hoping they call CDPR/Nvidia out on crapping this one out. I'm still excited to see what Alex produces but with how this has been going I feel he won't be giving it the love he gave Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition.

Even with SSD, they're restricted by the SATA bus, and the fact that they borrow CPU resources for storage decompression/streaming, while the Series and PS5 have dedicated IO co-processors for hardware-accelerated decompression. Having said that, last-gen can capitalize on the raw physical spec speed of an installed SSD. To speed up loading and 'massage' some asset/LoD streaming that may stumble on the default spinning plate HDD. It can't produce miracles, however, given the last-gen console inherently bottlenecks any recent SSD's best case performance due to lacking dedicated IO hardware.

@@griffgames9538 True, nevertheless, a ssd will maximize the ps4 pro and x box x performance. That's why Im interested in the upgrade, and results it will show.

@@damoncattleman5504 I have a PS4 Pro w/ internal 1 tb Samsung 860 Evo SSD upgrade. Honestly it's no slouch in overall performance on any PS4 Pro enhanced games(ALOT) and a massive upgrade from a stock ps4. Games are generally 1440- to up to up to1800p resolution; and 4k resolution output. It varies depending on game though. The loading speed is definitely (on average) 2x as fast as a stock PS4 HDD. Games load up fast enough for sure; not an annoyance like stock PS4 HDD. At this point I would just wait to get the new upcoming PS5 model with detachable disc drive. That comes out in an estimated 6-9 months. Unless you already own a Pro and plan on swapping an SSD into it, then I would wait to get new PS5 model. I bought my Pro w/SSD 1.5 yrs ago, I sold my PS4 to decrease the cost of that purchase. I plan on keeping my Pro even after buying the upcoming PS5 model with detachable disc drive.

@@GBDogg504 Nice, bro, Im interested on how it would stack against a HDD ps4 pro in terms off loads times, texture streaming and pop in.

@@damoncattleman5504 A PS4 Pro W/SSD is 40% faster loading speeds than a Pro HDD; Pro HDD is only 10% faster loading than a stock PS4 HDD. I own ALOT of game consoles, and sold some of them too. There's less texture pop in too/benefits. Digital foundry tested the full benefits-look that up if you want. As a good example --Even the recent open world game Elden Ring loads up very quickly on a Pro w/SSD. Honestly, I wouldn't care to buy a PS5 EVER if PS4 games support/release was continued. But, PS4 game release will eventually end.

This makes no difference on the Xbox. The Xbox always renders at the resolution the developer sets, not what you've set in the system settings. It might work on PS4 Pro though judging by other games.

IT’S HERE!!!

It's so dumb to push the one x to 4k when it can not reach 60 FPS....

it's because they hate xbox

I feel like at this point it has to be on Microsoft. I've seen so many games do the same thing where they push 4k over performance. And it was marketed as native 4k machine. It has to be because I also don't understand why devs wouldn't make that sacrifice for performance

Because of the trash cpu :)

@@FamishedYoshi Microsoft have no say in third party cross platform games res targets

Absolutely. The reflections even don't lower the resolution or harm the performance. That's how it's done. When I'm looking at CDPR, that's another story..yeah, I know RTGI is extremely demanding in this game etc. but the framerate is horrible and the image-quality blurry af

@@SOTVT I thought the experience is great on ps5/xsx, unlike on PC. lol.

I wish for this gen going forward to completely ditch Xbox One, S, X, SS and PS4, Pro. Make games only for XSX and PS5.

@@gameskyjumper1721 then you play with 10 people

@@gameskyjumper1721 they are def not dropping the series S...

@@MrStrangermoon Probably more than 30 million now.

I don't understand the push of 4K resolution on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X for current games when their hardware are old now. Also those last gen console only support 4K 30Hz through HDMI and they don't support outputing 1440p, only either 4K or 1080p

@@superqaxclub What are you talking about both PS4 Pro and X1X support 4K 60Hz and X1X fully supports 1440p at up to 120Hz as well

its clear that this game favors ps consoles rather than the xbox counterparts the xbox one x shoud be performing the same or better at dynamic 4k compared to the 1512p ps4 pro since most games like rdr2 show the xbox at 4k and the ps4 pro checkerboard or 1440p and the xbox always performs better

@@S1X_Bucks no it didnt ...

@@S1X_Bucks that was a CD Project Red event to preview it not DF’s internal tests.

IGN put one out 3 days ago

@@S1X_Bucks I want a deep dive into the tech of this update not a review

@@Not_Lewis Same here, plus IGN's analysis videos are a joke. They're substantially inferior to DF's vids and not worth wasting a second watching.

Interesting. I guess it will still be limited by those poor Slow Jaguar cores. Doubt whether an external SSD would make any difference. It's more of an I/O issue rather than a slow drive issue.

I think that just does ai sharpening. The resolution scaling is more for performance

its not make any diffrence on one s ı tested but on pc intel xe quality or pefromance thing make diffrence .infact the one s look like those intel xe on pc.

@@AZITHEMLGPRO its not ai just sharpening

Maybe 1 or 2fps less

If this was the S in this video then it's either going to be the same or worse. Probably best avoided unless you have a really high tolerance for unfair deaths.

There baisically the same won’t really notice any meaningful difference.

It's the same

same performance wise

Weak console.

That's impossible. One x and pro are PS4 and Xbox one with more gpu power and a CPU overclock Pointless to stop supporting them

It was the old update bro, now the game's a mess

They aren’t covering that trash 😂

@AZITHEMLGPRO that's because it's how it's supposed to be pronounced.

easy make shadows quality lowest one s run way better. infact game looks same low and lowest texture qulity and ı think one s is texture quality not lowest its low. if you make those lowest not low it can run better than base ps4 and look same.

@@MrStrangermoon true , i would rather get 60 fps and a good resolution better than graphics

Right, there is no "next gen" as long as we are dragging "last gen" around, kicking and screaming.

The Battlefield games on PS3 and 360 were far worse in that aspect.

Neil deGrasse Tyson once said this, dunno if he came up with it or he just quoted someone else 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@tickdracy2275 it's from jurassic Park lol...

@@jeremyg9305 lol nice

Same here on my Xbox One X with texture streaming set to high, the game looks really good on campaign and multi-player and I have no late textures filling in doors, walls and floors and the game looks good, upgrading the HDD to a SSD was well worth it given plan on keeping mine till the next enhanced consoles come out.

Because they have tons of other things to test and going over 7 platforms alone is hard enough

@@MrInuhanyou123 Yeah it’s already a LOT for them to test, but in situations like this one it would’ve been worth tossing it into the mix to show that there actually is a middle ground on this game if you have an SSD in any of the last gen consoles.

ya but if your at 30 and come across some sweat boy on pc with 144hz monitor you should smile for you are in elysium and your already dead :P

If they capped frame rate to 30 then nobody would buy the game, competitive fps games that cap at 30fps tend to die off pretty quick because it's not ideal

@@mightymushroom4980 cuz it's free....

@@mightymushroom4980 In the original post I forgot to write optional. That's what I meant to put, but I apparently did not do so. My bad

you only see that below 720p resolations on starting loading assets and some intense moments. its not that bad. you see those on video more bcosue they try t ocapture it.

That’s good news for COD coming back to a Nintendo console, they are practicing the optimization on Xbox first lol

@@spenny2cents they may as well just port cod mobile onto the switch as that's the only one I could see it being able to run.

provavel q nao

I have a One X with a Samsung 870 EVO internal with texture streaming on High and with a Ethernet cable connected to the console and runs great.

@@Lavoss05 i didn't know the Samsung 870 Evo was a hard disk drive

@@PlumbCarton5607 Thanks for the heads up

I want the console's analysis too (PS5/Series X), but right now I'd settle for just the PC one.

I agree. I cannot understand how people play this on last-gen. With every death my mind would go: "Would I have survived if I had a clearer image and a stable fps?"

@@Baddy187 Bruh . I unlocked gold camo for a gun in warzone 2 using a office laptop which specs are i5 11th gen 8gb ram with a mx350 2gb vram card . And water is intense in the game which drops the fps to 20fps . You need skill to play game .

Vrr TVs are basically gonna be common anyway I mean look at vizio Hisense all the main brands low end tvs they all support it now.

It's ironic you used the term "True 60fps" -- considering the Xbox One X was launched trumpeting the "True 4K" slogan. The One X launched a full year after PS4 Pro and cost $100 more than the Pro, but you received a better spec on paper for that 100 buck premium. Sadly, both the Pro and One X were stuck with the ancient Jaguar CPU, as AMD had no new APU to offer MS and Sony for the mid-gens in 2016-17. So the Pro and One X are just turbocharged versions of the same 2012-era laptop chipset. The One X is far better equipped to produce 'True' 4K (2160p) frame buffers than the Pro, while the Pro has specialized reconstruction hardware to hit 4K output. The rub off, unfortunately, is that too many One X versions attempted higher than recommended resolutions,which compromised frame-rate. Still hamstrung by the frail Jaguar cores.

@@griffgames9538 It’s up to devs as to what resolution they seek along with the the performance they want. If Call of Duty is supposed to be about 60fps simply bumping the resolution down to PS4 Pro level as I stated would put it above it in performance metric since the more capable hardware would be better suited at stick to said fps. I suspect Sony’s deal with Activision with it being the lead platform is the reason. Xbox One X Jaguar CPU run at 2.3 GHz while the Pro run at 2.1 GHz. The PS4 Pro does nothing in terms of reconstruction that Xbox can’t and Call of Duty uses a great reconstruction or up sampler of their own. At the very least there should have been a resolution and fps mode on Xbox One X but anyone with a freesync or VRR TV or monitor will fare better.

@G P Options like 1620p and 1800p can reconstruct to 4K output in a very pleasing way, if the temporal solution is adequate.

@@ZeitGeist_TV It's the One X vastly superior game-available VRAM + superior bus bandwidth and GPU spec that leads to higher resolution aspirations compared to the Pro, but unfortunately the frail Jaguar CPU cores in the One X, regardless of minor clockspeed boost, can't hold up their side of the spec balance.

@@griffgames9538 Correct which is why I don't like the arbitrary need to push for higher resolution over performance when there is no offering of performance mode. My hope is that the Activision deal goes through and we get a dual mode feature implemented for both the Pro and One X.

the 3050 is expensive and playstation players not get series s so. collectors disk guys also not get on xbox side.

@@MrStrangermoon tbf there's better value cards then the 3050

@@Twollsy speak for usa and eu market. its expensive elsewhere. same as series x ps5 prize.