@@RamseyDewey Boxers punch with better technique, that`s where power comes from and MMA gloves add power to shots, Conor couldn`t even match Floyd`s power with boxing gloves on, I`ve heard an MMA analysist review this subject on his channel stating the same thing.
@@RandAlthor939 Chances are though that Boxer is more likely to get up after that punch then say an MMA fighter who trains to endure and take things besides that. In terms of boxing most of their punches will flat out kill you if they do not simply knock you out... Also knowing where to hit, if you just hit them anywhere they might not be taken down and boxers position to do more damage with punches and to avoid or lower the damage of any punches that are sent their way.
boxers actually do punch harder than mma guys. boxers punch harder than any of the other martial arts, for pretty obvious reasons as people below are pointing out. kickboxing even falls short to boxing as to punching power, positioning and other aspects.
If you only rely on your hands, to be succesful you need lots of speed and reflexes (as well as timing and technique). Because, if you only can win by touching the other guy with the hands. The other guy has less things to look for and be prepared for. So a really good boxer therefore will have higher hand speed than any other martial artist. Momentum energy is defined by the mass times the velocity. So it means that the power you generate in a punch is dependent on the mass of your fist (arm) and the velocity of the fist at the time of the impact. In short, by that reasoning a really good boxer will generate more power than any other martial artist in their punch . BUT: To be successful as an offence boxer you either need to be very very fast and/or very deceptive. If you have the twitch speed in your hands you might not need as much deception, but if you are slower in your hands you might be very good at deception. Then you have the counter boxer, relying more on reflexes and striking the openings that the oponent provides. Here reflexes and timing is more important than speed. So I guess this is what Ramsey is trying to say. Its not a given that a boxer always will be punching harder than other martial artists, but they will be leagues a head in timing/deception and positioning in a fist fight.
@@tenshin2002 You're looking at this too simplistically, it's possible some elite boxers punch faster sure. Punching faster isn't always or necessarily the difference between missing a punch and landing it solidly. Your ability to read or determine when a punch you throw will land or learning how to create an opportunity for a punch to land is extremely important. It's why even between two boxers with clear differences in punch speed that fights go rounds rather than seconds before one finds a way to hit and knock the other guy out. They need that time to learn when their opponent can be hit or for one of them to make a mistake that gets them hit. If it was just a simple equation of speed and power...all fights would be over nearly instantly. Punching power is not just the mass of your arm times it's speed. If you've ever flicked your arm out as fast as you can and just let it hit something you've probably experienced that there's not a lot of power on it. If you were to literally throw an arm at something it wouldn't hit exceptionally hard. That's basically just slapping or smacking something. Your hardest punches are not your fastest ones, you have to sacrifice quite a bit of speed to hit with serious power...when people are throwing their deadly punches everyone is doing it slowly. Look at Marcos Maidana.
@@tenshin2002 Right, well mine's there if you want to respond to it. I know what you said later in your comment, I responded to that in the lower part of mine. Guess I could do a quick summary. Hand speed does not determine success for an offensive fighter, fighters take time to learn when their opponent is able to be hit effectively and from where they can hit them. Punching power is not directly related to the maximum speed you're able to throw your arm out and is more complicated than just the size of your arm and speed you can throw it at. hard punches are often slow, so hand speed isn't determining who's knocking people out.
@@7dayspking I said hand speed is important for an offencive boxer, more so than a counter puncher. I also stated that deception has a big part in connecting a punch as well. Obviously if you are an offencive boxer you need to create openings with your offence. Hence deception. And if your hands are fast you will be more successfull. You cant change physics. Power is mass times velocity. How you generete that power differs. So a slow "hard" punch means you have to compensate the lack of velocity with mass, thats why more muscles are used to deliver the power and thus are creating a lager mass. So depending on your physique it might be easier to achive great punching impact by "generating more mass" through more muscles in the body. Whilst other boxers have more explosive muscle tissue and can generate more speed to achieve the same impact. Obviously you want to combine the two and generate as much mass and speed as possible when power punching.
It's a sport. It's a hobby. Yes for some it's employment. Can a badminton player out serve a tennis pro. Does it really matter. Some of the best traits of boxing are in evasion, not hitting. Lomachenko, Willie Pep come to mind. The thing to learn from boxing is footwork, distancing, getting angles. I'd rather see a boxer who could get the angles and deal with an opponent with a relatively modest power punch than a slugger, TBH.
Great explanation Ramsey. Learning to punch a target hard is pretty easy. Punching hard without hurting yourself is more difficult. Even more so a moving target. Punching a person who is trying to not be punched is even more difficult, and if they know how to punch hard, how to avoid being punched hard, and are trying to punch you hard... All that being said, depends on the fighter and how they train.
An MMA guy doesn't have enough hours in the day to train perfectly in any one thing. A pro boxer may well be able to strike harder, because their entire regiment, diet and training regime is optimised for them to be able to do that. I'd hazard a guess that someone who spends their life only training in BJJ will be better and probably more tuned to BJJ than nearly all Mixed Martial Artists. It's not a 'one is better than the other' situation, and people always get bogged down in that and take things personally. People are always so concerned with 'this vs that' and winning, that they can never accept that everything is good at what it's meant for and everything has a place. Even Wing Chun may save someone's life if someone attacked them and they understood how to use it, so does it matter that it isn't the best, maybe it's okay if it does its job (I don't train in Wing Chun). If you're driving around the city, what is better, a Prius or an F1 car. Food for thought. Many things are just bad, but many things just have a specific purpose. Wing Chun was off the top of my head, I'm not championing it.
@@Jandro1083 MMA fighters aren't "jacks of all trades, masters of none", they are masters of MMA. Just like an aikido fighter can't beat a judo fighter neither can a boxing fighter beat a MMA fighter.
@@Osmium2626 Example. Oleksandr Usyk would get his ass handed to him by Isreal Adesanya in a street fight because Israel is miles better at grappling and has more tools. Even though Isreal by MMA standards isn't a crazy grappler (which I think everyone's gonna be shocked when he finally shows his grappling) he'd still be able to outgrapple Usyk who's fairly larger than him with ease.
Genadij Smradztoiek I guess Connor considered it a "tune up fight" before he faced Cerrone. Hopefully the match up in the cage will be better than MacGregor's sucker punching a guy who's in his late 60's sitting down at a bar. Bad show Connor, bad show.
@@Chief2Moon Tony Ferguson should give Conor a nice tune up with his elbows. Also... his initials being CM and him being a punk, guess what we should call him..? ;)
Footwork, timing, and technique are most crucial part. You may have power but if don’t got any of that down then your power is just your curse, and I hope you keep up with your fighting sports
A better question might be: Can an elite boxer handle the leg kick of an elite MMA fighter? Both are used to taking punches, yet only one is used to taking strikes to the legs.
InvestableCards well i do believe in what you’re saying but I do submit to you Shannon Briggs when he fought in a kickboxing bout, he ate a few leg kicks but when he let them hands fly it didn’t last long lol
@@iamthelizardking6239 Oh absolutely. I'm not saying it can't go both ways, there's always an exception to the rule. I'm just saying that in general, I'd expect the boxer to struggle more than the kick boxer if neither had experience in both disciplines.
You know ive seen plenty of street fights and ive never once seen a kick. Id say its better to work on your hands. A leg kick isnt going to knock you out and will only truely be felt when adrenaline is stopped.
you think boxers dont atleast work out their legs and have strong legs though.... yall act like boxers just got noodle legs that would just flop, them muscles are still there and tough
Depends on the athlete. An untrained man can knock out a well trained martial artist. While technique does influence the power of the punch and its accuracy, so does strength, speed, size and luck.
Oh isee.. in a fighting contest mma fighters and boxers handles punches via techniques.. never by standing and taking the hit on purpose.. Hey coach ramsey! If it's about punching and boxing techniques who do you think would win prime Iron mike or the bronze bomber?? By the way did you watch the fight of wilder ortiz 2?? That punch was perfectly timed and it hit like a truck!
I think it's a no brainer. Tyson 10 times out of 10. Tyson didn't just have power, he had skills as well. Wilder on the other hand just has power. I was nearly screaming at Ortiz in that fight, he was boxing brilliantly against Wilder, had the fight won and then walked onto a right hand.
I think it's more than just pugilistic skills that allows the better punches. The boxer doesn't have to worry about takedowns and extends more with their punches. Their technique is better too. They turn their punches over better and are better balanced for punching only. They also put their hips into their punches better. The mma fighters throw a lot of arm punches. Again, this is because of the possibility of a takedown. The mma fighter will not leave themselves out there with longer punches that require the turning of the hip and torso. The recovery time to defend a takedown is slower for the boxer's punches. The tradeoff is the boxer's punches are more powerful because of the body mechanics. If the boxer throws a straight (rear hand) and misses, it's nearly impossible to avoid double underhooks from the opponent. The same goes for defending a double leg or any shoot. With an arm punch you can bring your elbows to your torso faster to defend a grappling situation.
hi ramsey, love your videos, i have a bit of an issue, i'm an amateur boxer willing to compete for the first time and i'm a hard puncher and when sparring i go light because i'm hurting everyone even the heavyweights in the gym and i don't want them to not sparre with me, and i'm concerned that in a match i may not be able to throw heavy punches effectively because it's not how i sparred , so do you have any advice for me
I don't know the ins and outs or your situation man but it is concerning that they are complaining about your punches as they are up against heavy guys who are gonna hit hard. So if they are complaining about a lighter guy then it's them themselves that don't seem ready. I box and I believe you should mix up your sparring. Some days heavy and some light. Because if you only spar light you will be shocked come fight night
This whole myth of fighters tanking punches is ridiculous. Of course you can get more used to getting hit in the head and remaining in the fight, but a full-on punch to the face isn't something you can train to just simply take. You can't put skill points into fortitude or whatever in real life, it's all about the skill of minimizing the damage the hits you don't manage to avoid do by moving with them or making them glance off instead of transferring that force into your brain, and like you said, not getting yourself into positions where the opponent has a clear line to throw a punch you can't mitigate.
@I like Potatoes most reai fights end up having a lot of groundwork and unless you got superhuman stamina if you end up being in the ground with a good wrestler its over for you
When you have the tolerance of someone who puts effort in their content and displays concrete knowledge and 70% of the comments are about him being bald or having a nice voice or a beard or being asked questions that only a nagging annoying 4 year old will ask and still replies back calmly you know u've reached the top level for sure. Gotta have ice waters in your veins!
I'm new(to this channel and also fighting[doing boxing, some kickboxing and wrestling]) and the two main things I've noticed I'm struggling with and my more experienced partners are correcting me on are being constantly too tense and lack of flexibility in my hips and legs. Do you have any tips when dealing with either of these issues? My biggest issue is being too tense. I cant seem to loosen up despitre reacting in time.
I know I'm two years late, so I may be speaking to someone who has eventually figured that out. But I had the same issues starting out. What I realized helps me relax the most was having a slight bend in my knees at all times. I never locked out my knees at any point. It will tire you out more, but you will learn how to be more energy efficient with that faster. Similarly, for my arms, I realized that leaving my wrists and forearms loose, while I keep my elbows and triceps closer to my body (as if you wanna engage your lats or something) helps my shoulders not get stiff and tired as quickly. So that way your arms rest on your body, rather using your shoulders to keep them up.
Hey ramsey, this is the first question iv asked but what do you think of pangai noon, and other forms of okinawan karate? Do you have any experience with sanchin kata and do you think it would be a good practice? Do you know anyone or have you seen good applications of traditional karate or sanchin in particular?
I am not one to believe the crap in movies. I make an exception to a statement in a Rocky movie. Rocky said” it’s not how hard you can hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep fighting”. All about strength of heart I reckon
It's not the style but the individual that makes all the difference. There are plenty of MMA /kickboxers who strike alot harder than most boxers. (Many many boxers actually did not have or win their fights because of super powerful punches) overall position relative to the opponent And actual body positioning won Mike Tyson more fights than the power of his punches did.
I've been experimenting with incorporating boxing movements with TKD. It's pretty awkward so far for certain bread and butter movements like side stance, round house kicks etc but somethings work very well for controlling space. Still working through it as I train for upcoming TKD sparring. I feel very much like I want to prove that TKD is better served by not bouncing and permanent side stance you see in most competitions.
I always wondered what people were expecting with this match. A non Boxer Boxed a Boxer and lost. I don't expect kickboxers to out grapple grapplers. Kind of obvious really.
@lilmayo Connor is still a MMA fighter by trade and couldn't take a punch from an old retired boxer not known for being a hard hitter and also being half of McGregor's size lol. It's literally the perfect example, imagine if Connor would've boxed someone his size.
It was just long overdue and I was happy to check seeing it happen while I'm alive off my list. It took 3 generations of fighters (because their careers are so short) to make happen. First it was supposed to be Chuck Liddell vs. Floyd Mayweather, there was talk of Anderson Silva vs. Roy Jones Jr. Fighting is a competitive world and the UFC was literally born to see what would happen when you pit style vs. style.
A weapon is designed to operate in a certain environment a dagger is very close quarters, a sword is slightly longer range, a pike yet longer range etc. a expert bowman would be in trouble chest to chest with a dagger expert.
It's not about "handling the punch"; it's about handling the opponent's punching skill and not being tagged flush in the first place. Elite MMA fighters have no business trying to outbox elite boxers because their skill levels simply aren't comparable - a jack of all trades usually comes up short versus a specialist in their field, in anything. Regardless of who can outbox him, take on Doug Marcaida in a knife fight and you'll get the idea.
Hello Ramsey im from mexico and as you know people here are a bit smaller than other parts of the world in my case im 6,2 feet tall and wieght 200 pounds i lift and practice mma and boxing but almost all my sparring partners are smaller and weaker so i got frustrated sometimes because i want a more fair fight experience what can i do to compensate the gap thank you i love your videos they have helped me big time
Ask Artem Lobov. But its not like Paulie Malianaggi's punches are that hard when you are hitting a goat in the head. The real question is can master Wong take that punch. Hes been training bjj and kickboxing prepping for your guys upcoming match.
Hi Ramsey I really like to start MMA but I have flat feet and I got bully because of that (you know they could easily break my balance by pushing me) do you think can I be successful in the sport of MMA?plz answer my question in your next video🙏🙏🙏
Yes. Absolutely. The beauty of MMA is that you have a lot of options on how and where to finish a fight. You don’t need perfect balance to ground and pound somebody.
@@raymondrocco6251 No worries friend. It was a refrance to the UFC fight between Randy Couture ( a renowned Wrestler) and James Tony ( A highly skilled boxing former world champion). Go watch as I highly recommend it to all fans of the sport
@@spencerainsworth269 ha ha ha ha !!!!! You have to be kidding me ???? Using retired washed up fat bloated type two diabetes James Toney as a benchmark for a Boxer VS MMA fighter????? Broke ass no money James Toney was only there for a pay day and couldn't even throw a punch anymore. Try using a primed Mike Tyson who hit probably 3 times as hard as Washed up Toney and way faster ! That's a horrible comparison!!!!!! He's not even a natural heavyweight. He fattened up toward the end of his career to become one ! Primed Tyson was a natural shredded 235 lbs heavyweight with not and ounce of Fat ! So that 240 Lbs fat beer belly truck driver couch potato who never fought a day in his life is a natural heavyweight also ????? Keep dreaming dude !!!!!
@@spencerainsworth269 he's not even a natural heavyweight !!!! He fattened up toward the end of his career to become one and had nothing but health problems toward the end of his career . Totally washed up and totally out of shape and a bad case of type 2 diabetes and that disease will take away like 70 percent of your strength and stamina ,, Just look it up !!!
Who has a stronger hand shake...the elite mma fighter, elite level judoka, elite level BJJ dude...or the brick mason that works 12 hours a day? Bet the guy who lifts cinder blocks all day every day, my friend...in the sun and in the cold...after all...that guy works for a living...respect.
Yeah pure boxers are far better boxers than mma practitioners. However boxing doesn't exactly translate to standup that involves kicks! Kicks can mess you up in different distances way before a lot of pure boxing comes into play. I also agree that most people with training could KO someone given they land a clean punch, but as someone who was tkod and concussed fairly badly by a head kick in a recreational mma class (yes that training partner is questionable) I will say that imo, a shin coming up and blasting you in the face (trust me the padding barely did anything) probably has more power than the vast majority of punches ever thrown by professional boxers. Couldn't even walk right a month later and had headaches for a year and minor memory issues that I don't expect to ever disappear. Still healed back to 80% though.
Apart from that, you don't need to hit like a ton of bricks to put someone into the dirt either, so raw punching power is not the prime objective of any fighter. Boxers need more skills than just punching power, so it would be suicide of them to focus on power alone.
Well Ramsey your right. It's why McGregor lost against Mayweather. Professional boxer winning a boxing match is no surprise. What would be interesting is if mcgregor and Mayweather had another match but under MMA rules not boxing rules. My money would be on McGregor. Because he will be able to use techniques Mayweather isnt used to avoiding/ countering . Various kicks, muay thai clinch, take downs and submissions.
Hello mate! I've got a question, is it possible to do cardio workout (like heavy cardio for fight camp) without running? It's becoming more and more painful for me to do 100 meter dashes (bad knees...). If so can you help a brother out with some tips and drills please? Thank you in advance mate!
Tyson Fury has taken some wrestling lessons lately and said that he might (just might. He wants to leave his options open) do a bit MMA when his boxing contract runs out. At what level of MMA would you think he would be if he does that? Assuming of course that he takes his wrestling and MMA training serious until then.
considering he only has to worry about take downs which are only linear moves and Fury has excellent lateral movement and footwork, I don't see him being taken down and just outworking his opponents upstairs. no heavyweight MMA fighter has even a fraction of Fury's endurance.
I think nobody can take a punch from heavy weight boxer OR MMA fighter if you literally just stand still in some kind of "contest of toughness", its simple physics -> the impact from the moving mass of the attacker focused all on the fist (English is my second language, but I hope you know what I mean) will cause to much dmg to internal organ or brain (depends where the hit is) for the defender to not get KOed. You simply can't train your internal organs or brain for impact resistance imho.
Remind me of Rocky IV , Where drago is hitting a pad where it shows his pressure per pound of his punch Reporters asked one of the Russian dude what does mean He said something like this Simple what he hits brakes
Yes if the boxer fears a takedown and the inevitable submission attempt or ground and pound.🤔 The question was answered when Randy soundly beat James Toney. An elite striker can appear average when they anticipate a takedown, rock paper scissors theory.
Ray mercer had his answer for that question,too, when he beat Tim Silvia.Israel Adesanya was a high-level kickboxer before he became middleweight champion in the UFC.Maurice Smith was a high-level k-1 kickboxer before he won the UFC heavyweight championship.
@@KWillo Prajeeth S And yet, Ray Mercer was beat up and choked out by Kimbo Slice. Ray also lost both his kickboxing fights, one by KO. No one said MMA fighters are invincible, but Ray winning 1 out of 4 non-boxing fights doesn't mean much. MMA fighters or even kickboxers would still beat equivalent boxers 8/10 times. We've seen too much evidence to still argue about this in 2019. As for your other examples, Israel is extremely proficient in defensive wrestling and has shown a dangerous guard off his back. Maurice Smith became a very skilled grappler after training with Frank Shamrock, after Ken choked Maurice out. They wouldn't have accomplished what they did if they only knew kickboxing. And I'm a huge Stylebender fan.
@@StyleTime the question wasn't if an MMA fighter could defeat a boxer or vice versa though.It was whether or not an elite MMA fighter can handle a punch from an elite boxer.
@@KWillo I hear ya, but "handling" a punch means different things. Idiotic Tirades injected some nuance by pointing out the practical answer. In a fight, the boxer will have a hard time landing the perfect shot. As with Randy/Toney or Royce/Jimmerson, the threat of other attacks makes most boxers lose their stance, which nullifies the threat of the power punch. In this sense, yes, an elite MMA fighter can "handle" an elite boxers punch by removing the punch completely. If you just mean the MMAtist eats the hit, then the question is mostly moot imo. An elite MMA fighter could KO a boxer under the same circumstance. A powerful bar brawler could probably KO either of them too. Obviously, the boxer WILL land sometimes, and the threat varies based on the boxer's style. Deontay Wilder would be utterly terrifying and could probably score early KO's on several good MMAtists(especially ones that don't clinch or ground grapple much). Tyson Fury might struggle though, due to his style.
I originally was thinking why not, they are elite level strikers too. Then I thought better of it. A boxers whole.conditioning revolves around upper body strength and punching power. In any case no one alive can handle Prime Mike Tyson's uppercut!
Well...we had a mediocre mma fighter win a decision over a former boxing champion in bare knuckle. I don’t think elite boxers’ hands can take mma fighters’ heads.
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Even the best professional boxers can be beaten by an underrated boxer. Just look years ago at Mike Tyson. 99.99% of his wins were before the match even started. Why? Because Mike Tyson's presence alone was so intimidating. But along came the likes of Buster Douglas & Evander Hollyfield. They were prepared both mentally & physically. They beat the best because they had the skills & confidence to win. And they did.
I think that boxers have better footwork that enables them to have better angles and pivoting, which in turn results to way more effective punches. But, in a MMA scenario their footwork is not safe to use, lest they get kicked to the legs or get thrown/grabbed. So MMA fighters have to resort to a different approach in positioning and pivoting that leads to an apparently poorer boxing… A tradeoff if you will, but an effective one - in the overall economy of a fight - Of course it's just my opinion
Specialization with less fighting tools (boxing) as opposed to less specialization with more tools (MMA) Boxing as opposed to punching...Of course in Original JKD they try to economise on techniques (simplify) but in Concepts JKD they try to expand it.
Actually, one big Hawaiian. Anyone with weight, size AND knows how to throw a punch can knock out almost anyone. Any heavyweight in UFC could knockout a great boxer if he was just gonna stand there and stick his chin out. There was a boxer way back in the day, Randall TEX Cobb who could take just about anyone's best shot. This is how he won many fights.
@@michaelfarar4232 what I meant is that anyone can ko a same sized fighter (or even worse a smaller one), some people think pro fighter are somewhat like saitama and take planet busting blasts in the face without blinking, but they're not (of course), they just know what they're doing
@Michael Gamble I saw it. Hey, BJ was f'd up. Look, anyone can get knocked out, even a highly decorated UFC fighter. However, 99 out of 100 times it would be the other way around. I remember an episode of Bully Beat down and saw the MMA fighter (cant remember who) get dropped by some cowboy bully. The guy could fight.
@@michaelfarar4232 I don't think there's ever been a boxer who legitimately won fights by taking someone's 'best shots'. If Randall stood with his hands by his side and his eyes closed and let someone punch him, he wouldn't even know how he got on the ground. Some fighters get hit more than others but there's few fighters at the top level who with any consistency get hit clean with hard punches.
Ramsey Dewey phrasing: "when all you do is practice punching you tend to get pretty dang good at it." Bruce Lee phrasing: "I fear not the man who has practised 10,000 kicks once. But I fear the man who has practised one kick 10,000 times." Same point. Different words. Who said it better?
10,000 kicks is 100 kicks a day for 100 days. That’s 3 months of the most minimal rudimentary training for basic shin conditioning. Bruce Lee is afraid of beginners.
Ramsey, you forgot Jordan from your team has perfected the art of pressure point striking. He can take any human out with pressure point striking (with knife).
Not to get into any debates, but when talking about world class prize fighting? You're bringing in the Durans, Hagler, Tyson, Chavez, Marciano, Foremans of the world into a specialty that is a combination of freakish genetics and mastering their skill over time. I respect both sports, but one is specialized and focused solely on punching. Knockout power will generally be higher in a world class level boxer vs a world class level mma fighter.
Yoel Romero's brother was a boxing world champion at cruiserweight (Yoan Pablo Hernández). He said they don't spar because his punches are too hard for him. Romero is an elite mma fighter and altho his brother was a champion, he was far from the elite.
Well coach elite pro boxers have mastered the kinetic liking when it comes to punching too get the max torque, leverage and snap in the punch. In my experience as amateur boxer going pro with in a year time. I would say with all due respect many MMA fighters don’t see punching as complex as pro boxers probably because of the risk of takedowns, kick counters ect. So I’m pretty sure if we measured the top boxers and MMA fighters in their classes the boxers on average would punch quite harder even the stance has a role in punch power boxers are more bladed to get more torque. MMA is more squared stance. But we do see in MMA the best punchers like Francis favors boxing with striking defense same with Woodley both always had a love for boxing train it separated as big part of their regiment. And both those are genetically blessed ofc. Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder vs Francis’s punching power on a measurement device in this case all of them are genetically blessed. I’m very sure the technique component would give the boxers quite higher score.
I think kinematic pairs and chains are what you're looking for. I always wondered why they put electronics in a physical test anyway, besides the read out being in vague "units" the electronics being used make me skeptical. I make prosthetics, I hardly ever use anything like an accelerometer for something like impact force because there is no point in doing all that conversion math when I can just take a physical problem, analyze it physically, and not have to convert secondary data to find the primary answer. If I told you how many kilowatt hours a fighter hits for that's be basically meaningless outside of number size because comparing a strike to a zap is a bit difficult for the mind to imagine. If I told you how many foot-pounds you could then compare it to more comparable results found in firearms and automobiles. I don't see what is wrong with hitting a weight and seeing how much it moves and I do see plenty of room for BS with using speed to figure out power, energy, or force. Either they're experts and know exactly how to measure punches, and so don't need a silly machine, or, they're not and they lack the ability to make sense of their own readings, either way the punch machine is kinda useless. lol, sorry I babbled, my point was good post bud. Got me to think anyway.
MrRoccoMarchegiano When I say the kinetic chain in a punch I don’t mean the measurement of punch force. The kinetic chain in a punch is the generated and transfer of force from the ground via the legs through the hips and core out the chest too shoot out the arm with all that force and then flex hand right before impact. Btw the technique is way more complex that but just to explain the basic on the kinetic chain in a punch. When it comes to measure punch force iknow the punch machines with the ball/bag at bars and gamestores that gives out a score are not true force measurement they are only using an accelerometer and gyroscope that don’t in account the size of the puncher. So I guess some thing more is needed to measure? Many you know? Speed X Mass = Punch Force
Boxing and Wrestling are among the oldest, most time-tested combat sport/arts in humanity. I maintain that an MMA fighter that focuses primarily on these will ve LIGHT YEARS ahead of ones working with BJJ and Karate. Of course one has to also practice defense against kicks and work on submitting the opponent but the primary skills of wrestling and boxing would be more of a benefit over time than 2 systems that are questionable as a wrap around skipl set at such a youthful phase of development. Hell, BJJ gi and no-gi is probably the worst thing Ive ever seen as far as closing distance, taking initiative and getting an opponent to the ground first in control.....its just horrible. Its a great secondary skill though once you have the opponent to the ground.
Is it really that confusing tho? Let me ask you something... the first video he posted of his grey beard you ACTUALLY thought he just got so old in a matter of days that his ENTIRE beard turned grey?...... really? You had those thoughts firing off in your brain? If so I pray for you sir I'm no man of god but I pray for you...
