Can men and women be "just friends" 

For real! Lady in the red dress won't ever stop talking ever and it is killing the vibe.

Such an underrated comment 😂

Oh boy, what a nightmare that would be lol

Cody pin this comment plsss😂

They should make that a video for Cody to see lmao

EXACTLY. like there are sadly a MILLION things that are objectively worse than cheating. i guess these people don’t regular consume true crime

@@elanmayes😂😂 fr fr

i honestly just think that a lot of factors and things didnt really cross their minds, maybe because they havent experienced them or maybe something like that

My mom was more upset about me eating bread in the room next to her than she was about my step dad SA’ing me lol. Some ppl’s priorities are outta whack lol.

Thing is those are all crimes and I don't think they are thinking in the crime range. Those are not controversial topics that anyone would have a different opinion about, anyone would agree that that is worse than cheating. So that wouldn't make for a very interesting video.

This is cultural misinformation

That's why relationship coaches always say the dumbest shit and end up hurting their "clients" more than helping them. Broad generalizations of a gender are always going to be inaccurate and if you enter the dating world believing that stuff you're never gonna find someone who's right for you.

Exactly. I hooked up with a guy because I wanted something casual. He’d never had casual sex before and decided it wasn’t for him because it made him feel weird. But we’re still friends! I wasn’t interested in a romantic relationship.

the book “sex at dawn” talks about this really well. it challenges those gender stereotypes in regards to sex and relationships

@@halloweendancing "casual sex makes me feel weird" guy code translation: "you being this comfortable with casual sex is a turn off"

Yeah the whole think of "many men suffer with lack of sex in their relatipnships"... well maybe there is a reason for that?? Maybe their partner doesn't feel valued and heard? Or anything else. Crazy take.

you should watch her debates she has where she talks more about the work she does, she’s actually unhinged. she’s debated destiny a few times and it was entertaining to say the least

yeah exactly. she's a strong believer of this feminine masculine energy type of shit that assumes everyone is heterosexual. there's so many questionable takes that she's made 😵

Fr, just by her first opinion I couldn’t take her seriously.

The idea she had that that men only want sex and only women want intimacy makes me want to gag. no sex drive is different from person to person a women can have just as high if not higher sex drive then her man. Not to mention like bi and gay people exist etc, It not about genders it’s about the individual

I imagine some of them may believe that you should just endure the violence because divorce is a sin 😒

@@matt6223there’s no way ur real

​@@matt6223I am a grown woman. I don't need to he disciplined, ESPECIALLY not by my partner. Thinking you have that kind of authority to "discipline" me is insane.

@@a1ntcry1noveru i highly doubt that's true tbh, because one of the few exceptions/justifications for divorce in the Bible is abuse.

RIGHT???

honestly, he laughed way too hard for way too long on that one

Can all the real Joel's please stand up

​@@wigsontop TRUEE

@@wigsontopI almost busted

I instinctively looked up shouted JOALS and scared my neighbor before I had a self realization and paused the video to look in the comments for joals.

Exactly. It's like calling people with two jobs lazier than a person with one.

Exactly, thank you!

Yea, I think the forced monogamy by society is the main reason why birthrates have been declining in the modern world. The internet has made it easier for women to be picky about who they date. So there has been this massive trend of women dating just the 1% top guys that aren’t rich, tall and have muscles. Even the girls that settle, they are just biding their time in marriage until they can get a divorce and steal the mans money. In the past you basically knew everyone in town, so there was a huge stigma about divorce and you were forced to basically choose a partner out of like 2,000 people your age near your hometown. Everyone was forced to settle and actually put the work in to commit to each other. Now, I’m not saying its wrong for women to only chase after money or the top 1% guys, but these guys have thousands of hot women throwing theirselves at them. Its really not surprising that these men are just running through women like they are prostitutes. If only society didn’t force monogamy, these men and women could have happy lifes by allowing a rich man to have many wives. If the guy is able to support that many people/families then why not? For the wives life is easier because they don’t have to have sex as frequently or spend as much effort on house chores/raising children as they could share those duties with the other wives. So what we tend to see instead is a lot of great women thinking that all guys are assholes because they’ve only ever dated top1% guys that only want sex, and rich men achieving big families using the workaround of getting divorced 3/4 times and supporting more than one family, but at the expense of him not being able to remain as a father figure in his children’s life. People should be able to choose. I really want a monogamous relationship where both people support eachother unconditionally, but society has made it so difficult to find someone like that. Everyone says they want monogamy even if they are only interested in marriage for the financial security.

yes, polyamory is hard work and requires a lot of commitment to all the partners and to the idea. the reason why it often doesn't work out for people is (except that it's not normalized so we still don't know how to navigate it and make up rules from scratch) is that it's just too much work indeed.

But in a polyamorous relationship you’re not leaning on just one person. I think that’s why it’d be easier then monogamy where you’re pretty much putting all you’re eggs in one basket

not “poor man’s Jessica rabbit” 😂

thats why women are not friends with most men and only with the ones they are comfortable with. also in general, based on your attractivity and sexuality, it is quite obvious to assume that men and women can be attracted to eachother. it's quite immature of you to insult someones physical appearence for lack of a valid opinion or argument.

omg thank youuuu

She's saying generally speaking, not that all men want all women and vice versa

bc a stripper is the worst thing a girl could become 😂

You know what she means. Growing up without a father figure which is very important

I grew up without father figure because he was abusive and unreliable partner to her and thank mum every single day for making that decision. Some people can ruin your life and your children lives if you let them manipulate you. She makes it sound as if it is universal rule for every marriage. She should stop acting like a marriage therapist and just express an opinion rather than giving lectures. Relationships are always more complicated than what it seems on surface

It's true though

​@mariocuric6690 i see it as a really odd way of guilting people into not divorcing their cheating partners lol. If your boundaries are crossed in such a way it can have some pretty devastating affects on your mental health and trying to repair a relationship that's been tainted like that is extremely difficult

Oh yeah, and I don't think she's a pick me, I think she genuinely believes in the "alpha male mindset"

She definitely does. I recognize her from another video, might’ve been jubilee, where she’s on the anti-feminists side of vs feminists. As soon as I saw her here, I knew what type of answers she was going to give.

She actually has a RU-vid channel they tagged in the original video. She makes like sex guru videos and “dating advice” a lot of her vidoe thumbnails look weird like ‘beta man cries over being sex toy’ ‘modern women’s declining value is high’ or talking about Andrew Tate.

that’s what we call a “pick me”

yes because if you have any morals or use critical thinking then that makes you an alpha sigma misogynist. people like you are the reason those alpha male podcasts exist. because god forbid anyone disagrees with you on polyamory

Crazy jump lol I was floored that Cody didn't say anything and that Jubilee didn't show the others' reactions in the edit

Right,

is it tho?

@@revalone3944 insane thing to say, im a child of divorced parents and none of my siblings nor me have gotten on a stripper pole (even if you argue children of divorce are sluttier or whatever cause i've heard that, none of us are) I think its just a distasteful thing to say. you can also successfully raise a kid via co-parenting or just completely single.

@@lilymoran7397 but would you not say it’s more common for children of single parents to end up less well off than someone raised (well) by 2 parents? the mother father dynamic is also important you need both. not saying there aren’t a shit ton of ppl who do fine raised by just one

No its all your fault

​@Doordashjonathon Try harder next time. bait used to be believable smh

the worst part is that she talks like someone who gives relationship advice for a living. like the whole "masculine conqueror mindset" thing reminded me of the old scott cramer videos where he watched awful jean smith tedx talks. i guarantee she has tried to build a social media following around relationship advice.

@@thehousecat93true, and next up she’s gonna join a pyramid scheme and promote “womanly” things only

She has a RU-vid channel and is a self-proclaimed sex and relationship guru.

She’s trying so hard to be different

The cheating take was just way too far, up until that moment I didn't mind her, but that was victim-blaming to the max.

depends on the people involved, some people are just very sexuall and are always looking for that on a subconsious level

@@PersisP exactly, some people. Speaking in absolutes is silly.

People that think like that are the weird ones truly...they would prob boink a sheep 🐑 too

@@strangetimez exactly! Not everything is about sex!

@@Leiasart definitely absurd!

Who the fuck is joel

I bet your parents must be really happy they achieved a joel😂

Right like id rather my parents get separated and be happy alone or with someone else than together and bitter lol, that’ll mess up your views on relationships

My mom cheated and I'm glad my parents divorced so they could both seek actual happiness.

That lady looks like a mess ngl

Better that a kid has two happy homes than one broken one

"It's for the kids" is already becoming outdated.

Lmao so true, my mind running on all the manipulation and torture that is possible and exists in relationships. There's some terrifying shit out there, I'd much rather someone break my trust and let me end it with some emotional scars than someone break my arm to keep me from leaving with real scars

FOR REAL.

​@@fionahunter1669yea, i was thinking like i want to be that delusional like them and not immediately think about physical and emotional abuse as the one of the worst things my partner could do to me

right like women aren’t murdered by their partners literally every day….. i work at a domestic abuse shelter and if cheating was the worst thing that could happen in a relationship, i simply wouldn’t have a job. maybe to men cheating is the worst thing

They clearly have had a priviledged life fr

I'm so sorry you've gone through that, and truly hope you're able to heal.

@@amandavergara8043 I’m okay now thankfully, I appreciate your kindness c:

Same (he’s dead)

Cody is your dad now

same but it's true about anyone i'm seeing

He's still out for that gallon milk huh?

Cody’s my daddy

The looks passed between the Christian duo throughout the whole thing....the producers were doing them a favor 🤣

@@natalieschopen6158 YESS

@@natalieschopen6158 as soon as i saw them both over there i knew what was about to happen

Most sane stance.

Almost like there are many facets to a romantic relationship. Met attractive people who I dont vibe with and the opposite

and also bisexuals, would she think they arent allowed any friends 🤔🤔

seeing as she put air quotes around the word gay, I'm almost certain she wouldn't believe we exist no matter how hard someone tried to explain it to her

I mean, I'm not asexual but everything she said I pretty much disagreed with. Horrible takes imo

yep 100%

Exactly

100%

"sexual object" "not the vibe" "i don't like that people are attracted to me" "omjjjj people have icky thoughts about me! gwoss!!!" confused zoomer detected. dont worry kid, once you mature at around 40-50 years old and have real things to worry about, you'll realize all your childish insecurities were just that. so funny how western 1st world society seems to slow maturity by so much. people from 3rd world countries dont worry about dumb stuff like this...

exactlyyyy

Jesus famously never hung out with Mary

it doesnt even make any sense too lmfao

@@clowncargaming8046bruh that’s his mom

@@nateskate11Mary Magdalene, different Mary.

@@nateskate11there’s another Mary in the Bible. Magdeline

Yeah I was thinking and although I'm not poly I think the idea of being a secondary partner as someone who is an introvert and needs a lot of alone time could seem nice because then the person I'm with won't be alone and there won't be pressure to hang out with them as often when I need to recharge. So maybe I am poly 😭😭

fr

I disagree just in regards to the first take about women and men being friends. Strictly platonic male-female relationships exist without ever being more. It was sort of homophobic/heteronotmative to say every person of the opposite sex has thought about sleeping with a friend. Its also a little mysognistic in a way. idrk

@@Jessy22296 thats what codys stance was "strictly platonic male-female relationships exist without ever being more." he was just clowning on the contestant that was saying "you never thought about it though?", but that wasn't cody's belief

@@Jessy22296 you just called a person heteronormative, homophobic and misogynistic in a single sentence without even understanding that his stance was literally the opposite and was just clowning the other contestant.

fr and his marriage seems like the cutest couple ever and now theyre parents 🥹 very happy for them

yeah i just yelled "YES.... OBVIOUSLY it is" honestly apart from maybe your children your love for basically everybody is conditional. Even if the condition is just that they don't abuse you, that's still a condition

literally 😂 SOO contradictory. Because what about the cheater? His love WAS conditional towards you if he cheated. And how she was blaming the person who gets cheated on for wanting to break up the family. Like the victim didn’t break up the family… the person who went off and cheated is the one who ruined the marriage and destroyed the family. this woman has it so backwards.

I think the ultimate goal of love is to be unconditionnal, but its very rare and comes after countless trials of conditions to be sure both individuals of the relationship understand eachother

@@user-gr1io9is3v exactly!!!!!! You can have unconditional love for someone and not take their dysfunction. Love isn’t supposed to be conditional, that’s a cultural misinformed myth. A lot of that belief comes from how people are raised generally. Just because you leave doesn’t mean you love them any less but you know what is good for you and you should respect yourself because that’s the greatest love of all

I think mostly love is unconditional, but a relationship is definitely not. Like if someone cheats on you, those feelings you had aren't gone right away.

I am also pansexual and that's what I've been saying!!

You are not a man. Pansexual men cant be friends with anyone(in general). There are true M/F friendships but they are really rare. If you even once think about sex its not true any more...

tbh she right on that because it exposes their true character, like the trash taking itself out

​@@TarahChantelexcept she expects you to stay with that person! Which personally, I think it depends. Many things play into cheating and it just depends on the expectations set, the relationship you're in, and the boundaries each person has.

I mean I think she meant it a "best of the worst" type of way (hopefully?) in which case I'd agree, but she said some other wild things that round

"There's a problem in the relationship you get to work out!" I don't necessarily agree with that. I would be more like, to the cheater, YOU have problems & my problem is you! 😂 I whole heartedly agree that it's never someone's fault for being cheated on. Unless the cheater expressed their needs time after time. But still.. leave that person if they're not adding to the relationship. No reason to cheat.

I think she holds the opinion that if you have kids you should stay with your spouse, but literally almost every child of divorced parents and spouses who have stayed together all say "never stay because of the kids since it'll ruin everyone's life."

Jessica rabbit 😂

i swear the red hair girl is a tiktok tarot reader too

And Feenix was in a video on Kevin Langue's YT channel in guess the democrat.

@@kristinagregor5492She’s an astrologer, Maren Altman, but yeah she also does some tarot with it

Which one is which though 😭

Men

I watched her on Jubilee's Male Feminists vs Female Anti-Feminists and the stuff she was saying was crazy, it was kinda scary how a woman could still think that way

Also the "sending her to the strip pole" confirms she's very sexist

And the way she said "gay" with finger quotes... does it smell like homophobia in here 🤔

Plus thinking that there needs to be a “feminine” gay and “masculine” gay for the relationship because apparently it all harkens back to heteronormativity…yikes.

@@stinkusbinkus8758no i saw that too… such a weird person 🙄

also her views on cheating and how the one she blames is the one who wants the divorce not the one that cheated.

Most relationship coaches seem lost tbh.

SERIOUSLY!! She seems so deeply unhappy and is trying to drag people to her level to convince herself that her life isn’t sad and unsatisfying. Also, ironic of her to mention kids ending up on stripper poles when she’s dressed like….. that.

I cannot get over her putting air quotes around “gay” during that first statement discussion omg

I bet she’s one of those «sprinkle sprinkle» alpha female people

@@ourxstorybeginsno fr like wdym they’re “gay” , they’re just gay 😭😭😭 why the quotes

Yeah… the type of people who don’t think men and women can’t be friends probably don’t think bisexuality exists.

Exactly. Also I'm a gay guy with both straight male and gay male friends. I'm not attracted to any of them (they're not ugly or anything). The fact that these people use this logic is insane and demonstrates that they don't see people as anything other than objects of sex. Friendships can also exist, I like people for their personality, banter etc.

Yes, thank you!! Also not to mention people on the ace spectrum!! Literally having relationships of all kinds, with 0 or fluctuating physical attraction. smh

I don't believe you they are probably no that hot​@@Random-sk6hm

I'm nonbinary, I'm just not allowed to have any friends at all

The fact that people actually said that makes me feel so disappointed in the human race

I’m so sorry that happened to you

Totally agree. I feel like a first grader could’ve answered that question better than those adults.

I’m really really sorry for what you’ve been put through by people. There’s no reason for it, and it makes me sick thinking you were treated that way. I really hope your life improves for the better in a permanent fashion, because everyone knows you absolutely deserve to have a better life than what you’ve been put through. I wish you the best.

they are definitely wrong but so are you to lower yourself to hatred over people you dont know, save your energy sis

it was so funny i was cry

#lifejoals

Joel

imagine he actually names his son joel

@@FULLTECHNOJACKASS i was so lost on the joke i thought THAT was the joke like he was making fun of his own sons name, and that lowkey had me rolling

seriously. my first thought was "well i've been cheated on and I've been abused and i would for sure pick the former over the latter."

Sadly, as a guy, i would honestly rather be slapped up. Same outcome, the relationship ends but at least it's easier yk?

It's such a dumb debate to begin with. Yes, there are men and women out there that are just waiting to take advantage of your body, but there are also tons of people with morals that see people as people and can control themselves. Also, just because the other person is of a different sex than you doesn't mean you're attracted to them. Some people just can't think rationally and therefore think everybody is like them.

That part! It's a very cis hetero debate

@@cooki3monstrrr cis hetero? What? Literally the same thing.

@@mathiasnkristensen No, because technically a transgender person could be in a hetero relationship.

I mean, there's a lot of factors in that. I, MYSELF, personally think it isn't easy for me because, I'm young, single and the sex drive is crazy. But definetily with maturity and having a partner it get way more managable.

Another person with no shame, sad world.

@@NetherHawk if theyre happy with their life why should they feel shame? Stop projecting your shame onto others.

​@@NetherHawkhow would you know, you're 14 💀

@@thepopo592 I made this account 10 years ago when I was 14, so fair enough.

@@NetherHawkactually, happy world. It would be a sad world of people were ashamed of things for no reason. Why should she be ashamed when there is literally nothing to be ashamed of?

also like cody mentioned you can consider something sexual/romantic with them and then just...decide not to do that and stay friends, and that doesn't mean your whole friendship is fake lol! i feel like that's super common in queer friend groups, crushes and flirtations come and go and it doesn't have to blow up your whole friendship.

@@friday13thirteen exactly! Being friends with exes is such a queer stereotype but i truly think it is because we have been forced to explore so much of our sexuality on our own, that its become easier for us to separate different types of love , if that makes sense….

i THINK the main argument on to why it wouldn’t work is because of the men💀 women can easily be friends w anyone and we are better overall at controlling ourselves, but men are viewed by society as more animalistic and having no self control- which is not true for all men of course. but i don’t think women was ever the issue in this scenario.

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking, like it happens in the queer community all the time so why can't straight people do it?

I was friends with a woman who told me she was lesbian. We met online because of our love of photography and other things in common and decide to meet up, hang out, practice photoshoots and street photography. She soon developed feelings for me for some reason and then considered herself bisexual, even though I never tried to get her to like me like that. I tried to make it clear I only wanted to be friends and that our beliefs/differences would clash if we got too close. She still seemed intent on trying to make something work and our friendship was damaged soon after. Does this happen often?

fr the hand motions and the cadence are so patronizing... so loud and so wrong

Yeah! complacency is what kills anything, relationships included.

oh my gosh I totally understand that!! I can promise you that it is work but worth it. I struggled with the change alot when my relationship went through that phase.... however i can promise you that looking back six years later that every fight or bickering moment is worth the depth of love and understanding weve gained through the process.

I’ve been with my bf for almost four years in April. I miss the honeymoon faze because it was so so sweet but I wouldn’t trade what we have now for anything. There’s nothing like growing with your partner and becoming best friends and just living side by side. It’s the greatest comfort you’ll ever experience.

Holy shit me too. I’m also in my first serious relationship and i used to get so scared of differences after the honeymoon phase. but in reality you spend so much time with that person and you’re both growing together so it’s natural that it’s not always going to be that high bar of “perfect”, flirty, excitement. you start to love that person in different ways, and i honestly think that’s so sweet:)

Relationships beyond the honeymoon phase are SO incredible, and rewarding, and bring so much joy in a very different way. I have been with my fiancé for 6 years; we have lived together for 2 years, and been engaged for 1 month. I remember the butterflies and thrill that the relationship brought us in the early years, but I wouldn't trade what we have now for a lifetime of butterflies. He's my absolute rock - every single day I wait impatiently for him to come home from work so I can spend time with him. Every little thing I do is made better if he's there - going grocery shopping, cooking dinner, watching TV, whatever it is, it's better with him. He's my best friend in the entire world, he's the one person whose company I never tire of, who I can trust to the ends of the earth. He's the one person who I'll never be embarrassed around, who loves my quirks and personality traits that I'm ashamed of. Although I don't get butterflies anymore, I still get excited to spend time with him, I still long for him when he's not there. We know each other so well that we can literally finish each other's sentences, we know what the other person is thinking or how they would react to any scenario. He knows the little things that bring me joy, and I know the little things that bring him joy. It's incredible to be so in love that you just feel complete when you're with your partner, and that's something that doesn't go away as long as you nurture and prioritise your relationship! Good luck with your partner, just remember to put your relationship first, pick your battles, and make time for each other 💚

girl i'm here with you!! my longest relationships were 4 months and a 2 month relationship/dating period. i was SO worried i wouldnt have enough "experience" to have a long-term relationship with my current bf now. as of two weeks ago we've hit our 1 year anniversary (!!!! omg!!! i still think about that), but the honeymoon phase and butterflies have definitely subsided and i've had to tell him how afraid i was because i hadn't experienced it prior, which he understood and said it was normal. now i feel a sense of calm, relief, and peace/content when i'm with him. i wouldnt trade that for exciting and spontaneous butterflies tbh. so i'm happy and relate to you a lot

they way they acknowledged it then said "well... But if they murdered me then I wouldn't exist whereas cheating I would still feel the pain...." Like trust me bro you'll eventually get over it let me see you get over them MURDERING YOU

@@loonartmsyou won’t see him getting over murder 😂

Yeah, presumptuous, but opens in my mind whole discussions in pain avoidance, for lack of a better way of saying it, instant gratification and our sense of danger in America.

How about the 75 trillion other things that are worse than cheating? Cheating is HORRIBLE. But come on bro. We can all think of like 10 things worse than cheating in 2 minutes.

Do you honestly think that the 'muder' answer from everyone would be an interesting response to this question??

Facttsss

Absolutely It’s very obvious and it makes me feel bad for her

I interpreted her views differently; she sounds so much like my mom and many of my mom’s views on relationships and sex stem from her trying to cope with my dad being unfaithful. I don’t see her views as coming from a place of “everyone is attracted to me”, rather it seems it comes from a place of “men are going to be unfaithful no matter what so we women have to accept that”. I think she’s just coping really hard and trying to rationalize whatever shitty situation she may be in

1000% agree with you, Trang! Maybe she also dresses that way in an effort to keep her man’s wandering eyes on her only.

Yeah, she has mentioned being sxually trafficked and has said wild sht eg "I wanna b scared of my man". I think it's a trauma response tbh.

chick looks like a caricature

It’s a stupidly worded prompt

​​@@MaidenHelll they definitely needed to put "that isn't illegal/physically harmful" at the end of that.

One of the girls mentioned your partner offing you…pay attention to the video

@@57goku one single mention. no need to be rude

I don't think they expected everyone to take it so literally lmao

Yesss! I hate when people say guys and girls can’t be friends cause of this. It honestly grosses me out. I have good guy friends that are strictly platonic and they would 100% say the same.

There are plenty of women I've considered "just a friend" because I wasn't attracted to them in the tiniest bit. There are also girls that, if given the chance, I'd sleep with. But that chance was nearly non-existent, so I didn't even try and kept it as friend (or acquaintance).

@@alaeacusmcfly4353oh…so you’re just friends with girls you don’t consider attractive? pls elaborate if i’m wrong

sorry not sorry most men will stick it anywhere. true statement. cant trust em. testosterone destroys them.

@@alaeacusmcfly4353 yeaahh I think that’s usually how it goes! It must be miserable to not have the cognitive ability to put your attraction to someone aside

Like, this whole Jubilee program is autistic itself.

Lmaooo

in fact the friends of mine who had parents stay together for them ended up often cutting contact with one or both parents or having terrible relationships with their parents as well as struggling with their own personal relationships because they’ve been taught you should stay with someone for necessity and ‘greater good’ rather than own happiness. I don’t believe a family can be happy if the parents are staying together just to keep a family in one place it just doesn’t work majority of the time

Awkward laughs bro, it’s not that deep

That's so real

Women are more likely to commit domestic violence, which isn't talked about enough btw.

wait i swear i see you in so many comment sections??

@@lilacfields Me or birdie?

She doesn’t even look like she’s in the same age range as the rest of these people- and she’s always the odd man out

Yeah, I immediately recognized her. I end up disagreeing with 95% of what comes out of her mouth

Oh…lord

Oh jesus...

Great way of putting it 😂

as a pansexual, I’m literally alone forever lol we’re screwed 😢

All bi yourself

i’m bi too, guess that’s why i don’t have friends. it’s all making sense now lol.

idk we should all be friends and prove em wrong

lol as a fellow bi i find myself always having almost equal girl and guy friends but the guy friends assume stuff sadly just bc I’m friendly with both they think I’m flirting or something, so i end up with a lot of gay guy friends instead 😂

And the Joels that we wish to achieve in the future

omg exactly. it's extremely annoying imo. like who gives a flying fuck lmao

As long as people are respectful to each other and not shitty humans who gives a fuck lmao

and the guy just straight up calling him lazy and a "sin" IMMEDIATELY after he explained why it works for him like omf plz

@@e-dogg34 already know he's homophobic

The dude is self projecting. It is in fact lazy of him, to just up and call all/most people around lazy for divorcing and breaking up their relationships, instead of him doing some reflection and thought into monogamy/monoamorous type of lifestyle and why it doesn't work. That maybe monogamy/monoamorous type of relationship might be at fault and something that doesn't work for all people. First off, men are kind of, sort of built to be polyamorous. Through pron viewing studies, visually we usually if not always get turned on through novelty. We got a whole bunch of different videos, because one video isn't enough and sometimes we search for more/new ones too. And frankly speaking that might be true for women and pron too. And many people have double standards and are hypocrites. While they wouldn't forgive cheating from their partner, they have cheated or eventually cheat. And other times they would cheat under certain circumstances that simply have not been met/did not occur. Then again Christians(and not only, generally religious people) tend to be very narrow minded, hypocritical, having double standards and preach things that they don't follow and/or they have little to no idea about. So it's not surprising that the dude falls in line with that. Last but not least, do you know how much effort and suffering/ordeal some people have to go through to get that divorce/break up? And what repercussions may follow after that? Doesn't seem like it.

Right?? Like I was legit expecting more mature, more nuanced opinions. But they all seem like high school kids who've never heard about domestic abuse or that opposite-sex friendships exist.

Yes a bunch of emotional immature people here

Maybe cause most men dont see women as people

Most men are attracted to most women. Got nothing to do with emotional maturity, though I don't think that neccassarily makes it something other than a friendship unless we define in that specific way.

wow, as a guy, I am completely guilty of this. As someone who's been trying to put themselves out there to find a partner, but also make friends, I've realized that I've unfortunately let the two mix, leading me to gravitate toward women I find attractive out of romantic interest, while also trying to befriend them. It's an important distinction to make, because I have had unfortunate experiences from doing exactly what you said. Thank you for bringing this up

I have a really attractive friend of mine who often grabs the attention of a lot of men. It makes me mad when I see men trying to befriend her just to get with her and or have underlying intentions AND ITS SO OBVIOUS. Its disgusting because shes naive and genuinely thinks they just want to be friends. While their are guys who are genuine, they are rare. I think men and woman can be friends, but not just ALL, obviously their are people who just want a hit and run.

Those are the guys that always expect it to lead somewhere if they only befriend people they are attracted too and then get pised when it doesn't lead to where they expected and they are put in the 'friendzone'. To add, most of those dudes believe they are 'nice guys who finish last'. It's so silly

It's also extra weird that they can't conceive of the idea that they don't need to fuck or date every single woman they find hot. In Scandinavia (where I've lived my whole life), pretty much everyone has friends of different genders. Lots of men have hot female friends they never hit on, and vice versa. For the longest time, I thought the idea that men and women can't be friends was some exaggerated Hollywood thing, because it makes absolutely no sense to view other people as sexual objects to that degree.

And women.

Exactly how I am. They become uniquely beautiful because of how I know them. It is intertwined.

ya i feel like more often then not this happens with a lot of men and their girl "friends"

Spectrum

My boyfriend of 7 years is this case. I didn't know i was bi until I started to develop romantic feelings for him but he was at a disadvantage because I didn't find men physically attractive. After 6-9 months of dating him is when I started to find him super attractive.

That might be true for women but not for men, we need to be physically attracted otherwise it’ll never happen

Yeah, it’s just a horribly phrased question. Like domestic abuse exists and I think most of us can agree that this is worse than cheating

@@Flammewar me personally, i would rather get beaten to death by my partner than be cheated on

Exactly

Absolutely, just because you want to doesn't mean you should😂

Key word is emotionally mature, and let’s be real, most people aren’t.

It's just that people are rather impulsive and cheating seems maybe even attractive to seem people

Ya like people who go on these kind of shows are thirsty from the start- that’s why I couldn’t take red sparkly dress seriously from the get

nah she's sexist herself, looks down on other women and has very traditional views on gender.

@@aldranzam3456 she without a doubt misogynist but it seems like it came from past relationships with men and just accepting that all men will be bad, so she thinks by changing her and other women's behavior will stop the men from acting badly. Instead of attacking the patriarchy she trying the "if you cant beat them join them" mindset.

yep, she reminds me lot of my mother

@@aldranzam3456 yes but I think that was a result of toxic relationships and being treated poorly, she accepted it

She seems both misogynistic and still kinda misandrist at the same time

i think the question should of been if you find the person attractive can you be freinds

@@tezzz4208yea that would’ve been a better way to phrase it - would’ve liked to see that

yeah half of these people are genuinely deranged