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Can Paper Towels Grow Microgreens Successfully? | Coco Coir vs Paper Towel 

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@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 10 месяцев назад
➽ Full Article now available: onthegrow.tv/cococoirVSpaper
@laram7962
@laram7962 7 месяцев назад
After you harvest, do you ever grow the plants like radishes in the garden to get actual radishes? It seems like a lot of energy was spent to make the sprouts and yay turned out so well. I would just put them in the ground and grow them for a few months for a big garden.
@robinpickelsimer7229
@robinpickelsimer7229 Месяц назад
These are for eating. As a sprout. Full of things good for you.
@Lou.B
@Lou.B 2 года назад
Two recommendations: 1. Switch to brown (unbleached) paper towels. White paper products of all types undergo significant chemical treatments to break down and whiten the cellulose; the more of that you remove from the medium the healthier your plants will be. It's quite possible that the stress you were seeing in the paper towel tray sprouts was due to these chemicals. 2. Use a wool carding brush to 'pre-soften' the towels before use. The needles in the brush will effectively puncture the towels as well as break up the fibre structure, allowing much easier penetration for the young roots. Try folding the towels once or twice and then place it on a surface that will permit the needles to travel all the way through the towels; a wooden cutting or soft plastic cutting board should work. Then just 'bounce' the brush up and down across the towel a few times. It will add less than a minute of time to your medium prep, so you'll gain not only on the cost of the medium, but also on your post-harvest cleanup. I'm enjoying your videos! Thanks for all your work!
@GEOsustainable
@GEOsustainable 2 года назад
Still would not want to grow my food in a towel that contains a soap or oil based wetting agent that most paper towels have. The wetting agent is to help it absorb water faster.
@Anonymous------
@Anonymous------ Год назад
@@GEOsustainable Unbleached natural bamboo paper towels don't have anything harmful added. Who with a proper mind uses bleached paper towels made of unknown sourced wood pulp and contain known harmful dangerous industrial chemcials such as dioxin and strange unknown dangerous toxins to grow microgreens for food? One of the reasons the microgreens grew less optimally at beginning in this video was due to the harmful chemicals in the paper towels preventing healthy growth, stunting the seeds, when the harmful chemicals in the paper towels got washed away the plants became stronger as evident in this video, nothing to do with roots not able to dig deeper. I hope this video maker tries the same experiment with unbleached natural bamboo paper towels made without added harmful industrial chemicals in the manufacturing process, the problem was the toxic paper towels he was using in this video.
@drew-shourd
@drew-shourd Год назад
#3 Presoak the seeds...
@Anonymous------
@Anonymous------ Год назад
@@drew-shourd Small seeds especially gelatinous seeds such as flax seeds and chia seeds don't require presoaking, in fact presoaking prevents flax seeds and chia seeds from germinating!
@drew-shourd
@drew-shourd Год назад
@@Anonymous------ I guess you never had a Chia Pet but n the 70’s…we always soaked the seeds as per the company’s directions…
@highway1052
@highway1052 4 года назад
I’m glad to see you give paper towels a serious try. I use them often where I can since dirt or coco is messy and time consuming to deal with. To make it fast, I cut down an entire roll to 9” with a sharp knife. Haven’t tried an electric knife yet but it would probably work nicely. Then just roll it out on your table and cut it to 19-1/2” length with scissors (I marked my table so I don’t have to measure each time). Looks like you are using Bounty towels, as I do as well. The Bounties hold more water than the cheaper ones. The biggest problem is that it works so differently than the dirt or coco. You had to spend a lot of time getting the dirt & coco process down pat. Paper towels are a completely different learning process that has to take place to get it working properly. You just have to be willing to put in the time and fail some. The deal with the paper towels is that they need about 2 more days to get to acceptable growth. I had a customer request Dandelion, which is a very slow growing plant. I started them on dirt, they germinated then died in about a week. My second try is on paper towels, 3 layers to hold water well. I spray them lightly, sometimes skipping a day if the paper towels are still wet. They are growing nicely. Never give up after an initial fail. Thanks for your GREAT and wonderful videos!
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing all this! Cool to hear how you’ve made the process even more efficient by preparing the paper towels to size. Dandelions are really challenging, we failed on all our soil or coco trials with them so it’s really promising to hear you’ve got them working so far in paper towels! We are going to stick with it and see how much better we can get with them. We really appreciate your support and encouraging words! It really means a lot to us! 🌱🌱🤗
@shastafog2516
@shastafog2516 4 года назад
Unbleached paper towels to be considered???
@smiller9112
@smiller9112 4 года назад
I cut a roll of paper towels down to 9" with a chop saw, then put down 6 layers, then slip a plastic mesh under the top layer. Place the seeds on top and cover with a piece of black plexiglass w/ weights. I am just using a slotted plastic trey on a slight slope with 2 Drip lines feeding it (1 at the top and 1 in the middle). Using Sunflowers as an example. 1 Cup of seed takes 4 days to germinate, 2 days in Black out, & 3-4 days under light to consistently yield an average of 550 Grams. This is fed by an Auquaponics system so any excess water drains back into the system.
@wjm1319
@wjm1319 4 года назад
Have you ever tried with cheesecloth? I'm wondering if the looser weave would allow the roots to penetrate down more.
@highway1052
@highway1052 4 года назад
@@wjm1319 I have indeed without too much success. The problem I have with cheesecloth is it cannot retain water very well as opposed to other mediums, and water retention is important. And the roots seem to blast through the paper towels with little difficulty. I even use a layer of paper towel before adding dirt. That keeps my bottom tray free from dirt for bottom watering.
@AdventuresofTheGreatBanana
@AdventuresofTheGreatBanana 4 года назад
I've been growing microgreens for just a few months but I started with those trays and instead of paper towels I use toilet paper which makes it much easier for the sprout roots to break through. I've also experimented with a top layer of toilet paper and no weight and it worked great. My experiments have shown that the highest yield was 20g of seeds and i got a grow ratio of 21:1. I also didn't use any lights :)
@AdventuresofTheGreatBanana
@AdventuresofTheGreatBanana 4 года назад
sorry correction... I used the amazon trays, they work great!
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
We will have to give that a try then Pat! Thank you so much for sharing! A 21:1 ratio is really amazing especially without grow lights! I assume that you are using a windowsill or outside growing right? Thank you again for sharing 🤗🌱🌱
@AdventuresofTheGreatBanana
@AdventuresofTheGreatBanana 4 года назад
Yes I try and make sure they get at least 4 hours of sunlight
@AdventuresofTheGreatBanana
@AdventuresofTheGreatBanana 4 года назад
@@OnTheGrow I could use some of your advice though when it comes to post-harvest handling. I find that I still have a lot of husks in my product, how do I take them out? Also after harvest I've noticed that the greens are still quite moist so if I put it in a container with paper towel and put it in the fridge, they still 'matte' together, get clumpy and eventually rot.
@EnFuegoDuo
@EnFuegoDuo 4 года назад
I imagine running paper towels through a shredder would work too.
@almostthere2516
@almostthere2516 Год назад
I have been growing microgreens long before they were called that. We just called all of them “sprouts”. 😊I have never used anything but water and a plastic container. No soil or other growth medium. Weirdly enough they all grow straight up, none fell over and they grow to 7-10 cm without any problem. The roots intertwine making their own mat of solid roots that support the stems. I was looking at your system but noticed that the holes in the box is too large to sprout small seeds in it. Have you ever tried very fine layers of mesh on top? The seeds have something to grip on to and they won’t be floating away down the hole. I haven’t tried but guess that it will make the plant happier if it could dig itself through some layers of mesh. Won’t get the smell of rotting paper either.
@joey-lynnewald9588
@joey-lynnewald9588 11 месяцев назад
Could you explain more indepth on how you grow the microgreens with just water and plastic containers?
@escapefromny2012
@escapefromny2012 5 месяцев назад
A sprout usually means they are only grown until "seed leaves" appear, the seeds are kept on and eaten too. Sprouts only need water or moisture to grow and grow in any direction, piled on top of each other. With microgreens you do not eat the seeds, they are allowed to grow taller, until "true" leaves appear. They need some kind of support (growing medium or mesh or anything that give the roots stability) to hang on to and grow up straight (because your aim is to eat the stems and leaves that appear on top). That's the differences. You can call microgreens sprouts (I sometimes do), but it's not really correct to do so.
@escapefromny2012
@escapefromny2012 5 месяцев назад
@@joey-lynnewald9588I believe it can be done on a mesh (plastic or stainless steel) or open weave cloth fabric (like a tea towel). You just have to make sure the roots are not disturbed as you water them and they sprout and grow, and there is water underneath that can be pulled up into the root. It's a tray of seeds in a tray of water, called hydroponics. There are many variations. Search for "soiless" sprouting and microgreens. Microgreens are sprouts that are grown in a single layer and allowed to grow tall until true leaves appear.
@CassiefromZeon-ts3cb
@CassiefromZeon-ts3cb 4 месяца назад
Hydroponic Sprouts are the best.
@GEOsustainable
@GEOsustainable 2 года назад
Not to mention, paper towels have a wetting agent to help soak up water faster. The wetting agent is usually detergent but can be something you don't want your food growing in. This is also why paper towels streak glass.
@NoNORADon911
@NoNORADon911 8 месяцев назад
Oy vey
@ArunRaoINDIA
@ArunRaoINDIA 3 года назад
This was very interesting. A simple way to overcome the paper towel penetration issue would be, possibly, to take a thick sewing needle and just make a full set of holes 1 cm apart all the way around the roll top to bottom. will take a few minutes. the germination was great on both. penetration of the radicals was slower. The paper towel trays could have been left 2 more days and the harvest weight would have been the same. The leaf weight would have been better as well. The cost of grow medium and its availability definitely outweighs the day or two extra i would think. WDYT?
@1Ggirl1959
@1Ggirl1959 4 года назад
Palate cleanser "coffee" I LOVE IT! I think maybe if you have some kind of roller or maybe a meat tenderizer to poke tiny holes in the paper towels it would help. Just a thought.
@flaron352
@flaron352 4 года назад
Good idea. Perforated the paper towels somehow although in the long run not sure paper towel will give enough foundation for the roots to root and grab onto like coco or other medium unless they have enough water to root like in hydroponics
@OrlandoMICROGREENS
@OrlandoMICROGREENS 4 года назад
You two are great! Love this one, Its cool to see how you can grow Microgreens on more readily available mediums. Thanks for taking the time to share what you learn.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
Thank you for your continued support!! We love experimenting and can’t wait to try out a lot more paper towels soon! 🤗🌱🌱
@natalinegloriana3430
@natalinegloriana3430 4 года назад
I use 4-5 layers of paper towels, and it works just fine
@michaelanderson9792
@michaelanderson9792 3 года назад
I like viva paper towels they feel like cloth they are recycled bounty’s towels
@truueindeedi
@truueindeedi 3 года назад
Do you use any special kind of paper towel? Like non bleached? Do you have a brand you can tell me that has worked for you? Thanks 🌱
@natalinegloriana3430
@natalinegloriana3430 3 года назад
@@truueindeedi nope, nothing special. Just ordinary paper towels
@natalinegloriana3430
@natalinegloriana3430 3 года назад
@@truueindeedi I'm in Indonesia, so I think you won't be able to find the same brand there 😂.
@truueindeedi
@truueindeedi 3 года назад
@@natalinegloriana3430 lol. Yeah prolly right
@DonnaDB777
@DonnaDB777 3 года назад
I use paper towels and cover with plastic wrap not touching the seeds (until they are germinated) and have no problems.
@pb.223
@pb.223 2 года назад
You guys are great. I've been growing broccoli and radish on top of 3 plies of paper towels for a year or so. No fertilizer. I top water and pour the standing water out of the no hole tray immediately. I water twice a day.The used paper towel goes out to the chickens. I cannot seem to grow sunflowers with this method, but I'll try a paper towel cover on top. Thank you for all your efforts.
@kathleenjones1844
@kathleenjones1844 4 года назад
Thanks so much for this test! When I first tried paper towels, it was in 5x5 trays and folded so that it was 4 thicknesses. And yes, I misted more than 2x per day, as I remember.(That was before I started a spreadsheet to keep a record of my grows.) Used broccoli. Maybe the thickness allowed both for more water retention, and therefore faster germination and more place for the radicles to attach? Didn't get much height, and used scissors to harvest after lifting the whole grow out of the trays. Am running a tiny test right now on radish and mustard on 5x5 with layers of coco and paper towels to see how the rooting compares. I'm not as worried about harvest weight because I'm just growing for my own consumption, but flavor is a value for me. You guys are the best! ♥
@bs4638
@bs4638 3 года назад
Hi Kathleen... please share your results here or on your channel. Thank you!
@mabuhayPinay
@mabuhayPinay 2 года назад
Yes please share. Sharing is caring ;)
@papablueshirt
@papablueshirt 2 года назад
As you said there is a wide variation with paper towels. I use Walmart extra strength and get good root penetration. I tried dollartree brand and it was a failure. I thought being a thinner paper towel was better, but the roots had a hard time getting through. I use a potting mix, and then put the paper tucked in all 4 corners of the tray. The reason I do that is it pulls moisture from the soil and I have redworms in my trays. Usually by harvest day the worms have eaten most of the paper towel. It keeps my micros clean, but also allows me to grow organic. I have trays I have planted almost 60 times this way. Some seeds work better than others for the paper towel method. Works good for home use.
@luie97
@luie97 Год назад
I am so curious about the setup with worms in it! That's so cool
@panedrop
@panedrop 4 года назад
I love your exhaustive experimentation as well as your willingness to share that information. I hope to be in a similar position someday soon.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
We hope so too! Start small and build up! Thank you so much for your support!!
@dirtpoorchris
@dirtpoorchris 4 года назад
maybe try getting one of those metal horse combs or a wire brush and poking it through the paper towels so theres tons of mini holes.
@extendedp1
@extendedp1 2 года назад
You guys make great videos. Great content, great camera work, and no annoying loop music in the background. Well done.
@NinjaVsHoarde
@NinjaVsHoarde 4 года назад
Would love to see a video with more information on the business side of things! Such as how you find and maintain relationships with customers, how do you get product to your customers, how do you price things, what was your start up cost, etc :)
@Emeraldwitch30
@Emeraldwitch30 4 года назад
One of our local ladies has started selling at the flea markets and craft shows. She brings the whole trays and cuts to order for customers. It's been a bit of a slow start as she only started last summer but she did say it's been picking up. She was hoping to sell to restaurants but with covid and our laws here in MI its been hard. Not sure if it helps but it might help point you in the direction of starting out places.
@maverickmb83
@maverickmb83 4 года назад
I like the way you cut the Radish. Pull it towards you a little and slice it shallow. Great way to do it and will try tomorrow. Parents are having a small gathering to sample some wine they have made this year and asked me to bring some greens by! Have learned a ton from you guys the last couple months, and feel confident bringing over Speckled Peas, Purple Radish, and Sunflower! Planning for a live harvest of some Purple Radish :) Thank you! Mike
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
That’s incredible man!! We’re so glad to hear that you’ve gotten more confident in growing! We really appreciate your support Mike! 🤗🌱🌱
@davidniles1183
@davidniles1183 4 года назад
Great video. Seems like a hydrophilic mesh screen would be ideal. I'm sure many creative ways to add small holes to the paper towel. Would encourage unbleached paper towels. 2 ply towels can also be separated into single ply when dry (may be thinner than dedicated 1 ply towels). In further refining paper towel as medium, using its wicking quality may be a consideration - from bottom tray reservoir. Finally, a little stress may not be a bad thing. Xenohormesis suggests that plants produce healthy compounds as a survival mechanism. Are mildly stressed microgreens more healthy than unstressed microgreens?
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
Thanks for the support and the suggestions David! We totally agree that stress can actually produce a healthier crop. For example, if a plant never gets airflow, it grows much weaker than one that has to fight the wind. We tried unbleached in our first trials that failed months ago and then we moved on. I’d like to bring it back though and give it some more serious attempts. Thank you again for sharing and your support! 🤗🌱🌱
@GaryMcKinnonUFO
@GaryMcKinnonUFO 4 года назад
Time to do a video with 2 sets of greens, one of which is shouted at for an hour each day.
@meanqkie2240
@meanqkie2240 2 года назад
@@GaryMcKinnonUFO reminds me of Audio Adrenaline's Houseplant Song! ROFL!
@tomb8564
@tomb8564 Год назад
Nice work. Perhaps TP for bottom paper layer because it dissolves in water. Plus it is even cheaper than PT. You make me wanna try. Neat setup.
@yusufmariogermino2360
@yusufmariogermino2360 4 года назад
I usually use plain tissue paper (facial) and had been doing it for months on my sporadic microgreens growing
@StevenHsieh
@StevenHsieh 4 года назад
Great presentation as always! I got into microgreens thanks to your channel. I've tried a different paper towel experiment that worked well for me using the same mesh tray (though I've only tested it on pea sprouts) I put the seeds directly on the mesh tray and then paper towel on top, which I then soak and put a weight on top. The radicals mostly grow downwards and grab unto the mesh tray. I remove the paper towel after a few days when everything has germinated and start bottom watering. I mainly did this because I was inconsistent about spraying twice a day and had the tray fail on me on a prior attempt.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
We’re so glad to hear that your growing successfully Steven! Yeah, we only grow our peas without medium and we have had similar issues with some spots drying out. I think it’s totally worth it to use a paper-towel and help it germinate like you said! Thanks for sharing and we’re grateful for your support! 🤗🌱🌱
@bryanmilne
@bryanmilne 3 года назад
The first book I bought on Microgreens (over 13 years ago) used paper towels as the primary grow substrate.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 3 года назад
That's so funny! Things have come a long way since then! pranafire Have you signed up for our Master Class yet? Please get ready to take advantage of all the information we've assembled for you!!! We are also releasing our microgreens master book very soon! 😊
@UkeMe
@UkeMe 4 года назад
I'd be curious to see if leaving the paper towel on top for longer and then switching to bottom watering before removing it would allow it to separate more easily. Also, multiple layers of paper towels on the bottom could allow rooting to take place quicker and help retain moisture. I might have to do a trial of my own. :-)
@mabuhayPinay
@mabuhayPinay 2 года назад
If you did the trial, can you share the results?
@meanqkie2240
@meanqkie2240 2 года назад
That's what I wondered, if top paper cover was allowed to dry a little would it be easier removed? Plus a small pincer clamp to hold paper to tray at starting edge for harvest, finish last row of cutting from other direction?
@Yogaon5th
@Yogaon5th Год назад
Hello, you two are so wonderful, thank you for all educations. I did use lunch paper napkin. Just one layer. Fit well on green tray With ociansolution.I will be keep leaning from you two. Thanks again. 😊
@itsmegiorgio
@itsmegiorgio 4 года назад
Thanks for this content! In the growing space I'm preparing I will not have space to manage the compost of Coco so I also meant to investigate paper!
@virginiavoigt2418
@virginiavoigt2418 4 года назад
I am fairly new to growing microgreens, but I am thinking I might try screen (made for food dehydrators) for structure for the roots to grab, and then maybe four layers of paper towel beneath to hold moisture.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
We are actually experimenting with dehydrator mats right now and we should have a video on it for next week! It has worked really well without any paper-towels too!
@gyanendrabhattarai6490
@gyanendrabhattarai6490 3 года назад
The problem here is the incorrect use of the paper towel. For seeds that are bigger than the holes in the tray (for example, radishes, cilantro, chick pea, green pea etc.), just put the seeds on the tray and cover with the paper towel to keep them moist. Once the roots are grown, you don't need the paper towel and you will be as good as all other techniques.
@wolfcloud8735
@wolfcloud8735 Год назад
Fascinating
@saidalisamed7042
@saidalisamed7042 11 месяцев назад
Nice. If paper towels are tripled then you wouldn't need daily misting and baby sitting on the tray.
@SuperYagz
@SuperYagz 3 месяца назад
I used a paper towel because the broccoli seeds were falling through the hole
@clawilewak
@clawilewak 2 года назад
Just thinking, we always snip away when harvesting so that we get the plant away from the growth medium. But with something such as paper towel where the medium is too heavy and will be left behind (as happened when you pulled a root through) Wouldnt we just be able to pluck them all out and eat the entire thing?
@MrBob58o
@MrBob58o 4 года назад
I've used polyester quilt batting to grow microgreens for a bearded dragon to eat inside his terrarium. Seemed to work pretty well and he loved them, but its the only medium I've ever tried.
@kennethakin6322
@kennethakin6322 4 года назад
Use neem oil in hot water and spray it on the paper towels to protect against mold and insects.
@toosiyabrandt8676
@toosiyabrandt8676 2 года назад
Hi Or diluted food grade Hydrogen Peroxide which kills pathogens and adds oxygen ! I spray it in my nostrils to stay covid free. Check out Dr. Thomas Levy ' Rapid Virus Recovery' which shows how! Shalom to us only in Christ Yeshua.
@desWolfhound
@desWolfhound 3 года назад
What I love about this channel is how they try everything out that way I know not what to do lol. So no paper towels , check.
@TheWadetube
@TheWadetube Год назад
The coco fiber has it's own nutrients, more so than the bleached paper towels. I think Lou B is right to switch to brown paper towels and maybe add nutrient water a day earlier for the paper towel group. I am interested in your techniques for growing food in space where space is limited in a station.
@fabiankabas3863
@fabiankabas3863 4 года назад
9:22 "Having a top layer paper towel is gonna be the way to go!" 10:18 "I think that top paper towel is kinda useless on this tray." That's what I call try and error :) Nice experiment.
@daviedood2503
@daviedood2503 3 года назад
It's "trial and error".
@goprodude0075
@goprodude0075 3 года назад
@@daviedood2503 haha u got him
@goprodude0075
@goprodude0075 3 года назад
Nice comment tho
@sparkboy5207
@sparkboy5207 3 года назад
@@goprodude0075: Not so fast, could be Gboard error.
@juice8554
@juice8554 3 года назад
I feel that the radicles grow towards water. wet top paper towel confused it. may be the result would be better if you make pinholes in the single paper towel by using pinpad.
@GaryMcKinnonUFO
@GaryMcKinnonUFO 4 года назад
Coco coire matting seems like it may be an option, then it's a thin sheet with no mess but enough substrate for them to take root.
@ultimatehomestead1466
@ultimatehomestead1466 4 года назад
Have you tried ; Charmin ( yes , toilet paper ) for medium above paper towel To encourage roots to target the softer medium so it doesn't root upward?
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
We could give that a try! I think that it could have potential and is worth a shot! Thanks for the suggestion! 🤗🌱🌱
@ultimatehomestead1466
@ultimatehomestead1466 4 года назад
@@OnTheGrow We use the 30ct. Egg carton paper mache' trays . They're biodegradable and they hold enough dirt to allow a close eye on the seedlings growth . The roots of anything we've planted in the trays have pierced the bottom of the tray. Everything has spawned off and taken hold very quickly . We even plant our corn in them .... Not typical peaches & cream ..... We have some upper end corn we don't want wild birds taking off with ....
@TheLuPadilha
@TheLuPadilha 3 года назад
I’m in Brazil and eager to try out some “germination paper” that I’ve found. They are about 30 bucks for 500 A4 sheets, with neutral pH, open and porous. Believe it or not, the coco coir is actually very expensive around here, as most of it is exported :( I think that even phenolic foam would be cheaper around here, but I also didn’t get to test it as it’s only sold in bulk. Loved your channel btw! Keep it up!
@johnliberty3647
@johnliberty3647 4 года назад
Before composting I would throw those mediums to Chickens if you have them, they will get a bit of food and scratch that up real well for you as well as drop in a few nitrogen pellets for you.
@BusterABrown
@BusterABrown 4 года назад
Shamwow is an interesting option for a growing medium.
@goodtogrow7774
@goodtogrow7774 3 года назад
Funny!! I'm sure you were joking because a seed couldn't get through that at all lol!
@Carperama
@Carperama Год назад
Green horn here. Can you put plastic wrap over the seeds to keep moister in? Can you blend the paper towels or recycled paper with sterile water to make your own paper media? I would think it would have more open pores and can be fluffier for the roots to bind to and you can put the plastic wrap over that? I have filtered well water, do I have to add anything to the water? Do you test your water to see what minerals you have? Thanks
@alessandrozanella
@alessandrozanella 3 года назад
Dude i love your channel! You motivated me to grow microgreens. Wish me luck :D
@StaceyMayer
@StaceyMayer 4 года назад
Such dramatic difference in their growth pattern! Thank you for sharing these results.
@LorienGL
@LorienGL 3 года назад
Use the costco ones, they have great water retention and can store a lot more than other brands, plus they don't dissolve. Been using em with great success, only problem is that if the roots get into the towel, its easy you break em when pulling em out.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 3 года назад
💚Dario Durà Armadans Thanks for watching. We loved testing the "paper towel" theory...we don't advocate using it for growing consumed crops. We are actively working our microgreens into amazing recipes and that doesn't insure quality and taste....check on the recipe book link!!!
@ChrisJohnson-pd4hh
@ChrisJohnson-pd4hh 8 месяцев назад
This is what I intend to try. Two trays of a size which will slot into each other. The bottom tray with water in. The top tray with holes in bottom. A layer or two of paper towels topped off with a little vermiculite into which seeds are sown. The paper towels should act as a wick for self watering. Keep in dark until sprouting and then under growlight. I think this might work?
@carolynwatson4301
@carolynwatson4301 Год назад
I use plain old cheap paper towels from Walmart and it works just fine. I mist mine twice a day with a water bottle. I cover mine with a lid until day three or four. Then uncover and bottom water. I wash the bottom tray everytime I water. Some stress is good for plants.
@Chris-fg7me
@Chris-fg7me Год назад
the paper towel is treated with beach when made. this would explain the reluctance to penetrate downwards; also would cause the yellowing of leaf.
@monicasmith9215
@monicasmith9215 7 месяцев назад
Thanks my friend 2024
@dustinsmith8341
@dustinsmith8341 14 дней назад
Use some kind of spiked roller to put regular holes in any paper towels. Something like a pizza docker or cylindrical hair brush
@jerideciantis115
@jerideciantis115 Год назад
My paper towel sprouts did great with double paper towel and raised lid on top.
@davidguin5089
@davidguin5089 4 года назад
Thank you for finally explaining what you do with the left over medium. I had asked in an earlier video but don't know if I got an answer.....
@100Hardnail
@100Hardnail Год назад
I start by peeling the paper towels apart so that it is easier for the radicals to drive through
@iomirko
@iomirko 4 года назад
Hi guys, I'm trying china rose on kitchen towel and with the same green trays you are using right now. I suggest you to use another white tray (the mesh one)On top of the seeds. By doing so, for the first few days, you will be able to spray water on the seeds without lifting the white tray, and that will prevent losses on germination
@pottyplotter2462
@pottyplotter2462 Год назад
Best growing video I've seen Thank you 👍
@alohaflower1125
@alohaflower1125 4 года назад
I think that is if the flavors we’re pretty much the same, then you have to look, what is the easiest way to grow them without so much hassle! I would pick the coco coir!!
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
Coco is definitely our favorite grow medium!
@kokopie7706
@kokopie7706 4 года назад
For the paper towels, maybe try poking some holes with some kind of multi tip serrated tool, or, try shredding the paper towels first to then plant in a paper confetti medium. I liked the way the paper towel ones looked, the leaves had a gradient green to yellow which was pretty.
@stephs1571
@stephs1571 4 года назад
You guys are great! Thank you for taking the time to do these tests! 👍
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
Thank you so much for your support Steph!! It really means a lot to us 🤗🌱🌱
@benl6328
@benl6328 4 года назад
Try commercial brown hand paper. A LOT cheaper than even paper towel. Like 3$ for 1000 feet. Also not bleached. If you run a meat tenderizer on the paper it might loosen up the fibers.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
Great suggestion Ben! We will give that a shot!
@michaelfoster8530
@michaelfoster8530 2 года назад
It might cost more for the coco coir, but after you harvest the sprouts, the coco coir can be used for bedding in a worm bin.
@nancylourose
@nancylourose Год назад
Would assume the same for the paper towels
@greyhnd001
@greyhnd001 2 года назад
you can look up Mike Vanduzee. He grows microgreens in standard plastic containers with slots on ether end of the lid and puts paper towels through the opposite ends and fills the container with water. The paper towel absorbs the water . I did it without soil first and i am able to pull a couple of them out to put in my hydroponic downspouts. I imagine you could do the same thing with 1020 trays. With Mikes setup you can set it and forget it because the paper towel continues to pull the water up to the seeds. You could also put soil on the trays on top of the paper and it would auto water the seeds.
@kfox5301
@kfox5301 4 года назад
I've never had any germination or rooting problems using cheap dollar store paper towels. I don't stack them though. I always use blackout domes and mist twice daily until it can be bottom watered.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
We will give that a try! We’re definitely excited with the potential of them, I just think we need some practice. I believe it’s the really high airflow in our growspace that dries them out so fast... thanks for sharing! 🤗🌱🤗
@tarabooartarmy3654
@tarabooartarmy3654 3 года назад
I use a double layer of paper towel on the bottom, and another double layer on top until they’ve germinated and grown a bit. Then I bottom water with a solution of MaxiGro hydroponics nutrients.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 3 года назад
🙂TaraBoo Art ARMY Thanks for watching. We loved testing the "paper towel" theory...we don't advocate using it for growing consumed crops. We are actively working our microgreens into amazing recipes and that doesn't insure quality and taste....check on the recipe book link!!!
@jocelyneleger3375
@jocelyneleger3375 2 года назад
thank you for this. Can you reuse the coco coir?
@christopherstroud7389
@christopherstroud7389 4 года назад
Blend the paper and press the water out...it makes it easier..fluffy cloud look
@robg4843
@robg4843 2 года назад
Great video. Since the ultimate issue is money, and savings per tray add up. The idea of paper towels is cheaper but the roots have difficulty embedding into the paper.. Have you considered using screens? Yes it would require a custom tray but made reusable could be cheaper over time. For instance...Bottom tray. insert tray you use now. Paper towel layer to hold moisture. Custom insert screen over damp paper towel. seeds. top cover. The custom screen would give the roots something to grab seeking the moisture. and if you used a plastic screen or grid. Clean up would consist of scraping one side with semi sharp putty knife then pressure spray or scrape other side. But then again im sure the savings in coco would be lost in labor and initial screen purchase. Who knows.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 2 года назад
Great thinking! We actually have a video where we cover the idea of reusable mesh screens. We have some 316 grade stainless steel mesh screens that we are about to introduce to the market also! They would pay for themselves after the first 5-10 grows depending on what mediums your using cost... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IfU9BElk1wQ.html
@robg4843
@robg4843 2 года назад
@@OnTheGrow That sounds Perfect! I will watch the video now. Look forward to the screen roll out! Thank you!
@Heyitsdash
@Heyitsdash 2 года назад
I definitely would of poked holes in the paper towels rack. Lay the paper towels down and poke through with a very small diameter skewer rod so seeds completely sink through. Just to give the roots a little help/guide busting through the paper layer.
@mustwereallydothis
@mustwereallydothis 3 года назад
The ph of the paper towel is probably a factor. It may be worth adding a small pinch of sodium bicarbonate to the first watering and testing if that makes a difference.
@turtlefive8392
@turtlefive8392 4 года назад
I wonder if you soak the paper towels for 2 days before seeding to get a more mushy medium for the roots to dig into?
@SageandStoneHomestead
@SageandStoneHomestead Год назад
Would having water in the tray underneath help encourage the radicals to grow downward through the towel?
@cleancutstudios
@cleancutstudios Год назад
I LOVE YOUR IDEAS THANKS FOR SHARING I AM TRYING OUT YOUR PLASTIC CONTAINER MICRO GREENS SYSTEM WITH 12IN X 10FT ALUMINUM ROOF PANS AND COTTON FABRIC IN 5 GALLON BUCKETS OF WATER. THANKS AGAIN
@marvinmckenzie1557
@marvinmckenzie1557 4 года назад
Have you thought about using food grade Hydrogen Peroxide diluted and sprayed over bottom water tray or directly on paper towels? This would add extra Oxygen and cut way down on molds and bacteria.
@GEOsustainable
@GEOsustainable 2 года назад
It stunts growth by burning the root hairs.
@bithagrop2539
@bithagrop2539 Год назад
@@GEOsustainable record experiment and post results
@debbiecurtis992
@debbiecurtis992 Год назад
what if you put a piece of hardware cloth on the seeds before they germinate. the plants will grow through the holes and the wire will hold down the roots.
@aaabeverages7152
@aaabeverages7152 Год назад
Green Greg on utube shows dark environment growing
@jaybestnz
@jaybestnz Год назад
Plants need CO2 to grow. H2O2 produces more oxygen. Growing mushrooms or crickets in the same room can increase net co2 and that can help growth.
@AriWaldman613
@AriWaldman613 4 года назад
I've also used synthetic paper towels though they don't compost the radical penetration is far greater and the towel won't fall apart when wet
@ladyinjoy1278
@ladyinjoy1278 2 года назад
I have always used 3 layers of paper towel on the bottom. Where do I find these awesome large trays?
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 2 года назад
The trays are from this company :) shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=1148267&u=2175923&m=72437&urllink=&afftrack=
@lidip8700
@lidip8700 Год назад
How about an experiment with guaze and tissue papers (like the wrapping paper tissue paper & simple toilet paper)? Covered with parchment paper to keep the moisture in? Just a thought. I love the experiments yall do. So thought provoking!!
@markpinciotti3705
@markpinciotti3705 4 года назад
You guys are so inspiring
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
Thank you so much!! Really cool to hear that!
@jamesrebstock9043
@jamesrebstock9043 4 года назад
EXCELLENT testing approach. I'm new and starting TODAY with growing (with seed potting soil), but curious to watch your f/u vids. A couple thoughts: 1) Tasting... you introduced a coffee beverage rinse between first and 2nd taste tests, then I think nothing introduced to "reset" your pallet with subsequent tastes. How might that change taste perception? 2) Do you have a way to test nutritional difference? Maybe it's negligible, but curious. I'd think greens grown in natural medium would be far more nutritious, but that's my assumption. NICE work!
@meanqkie2240
@meanqkie2240 2 года назад
I'm curious also. We smell plain coffee beans to erase sensory overload when comparing scented candles, etc.
@kathynix6552
@kathynix6552 Год назад
I wondered if the bitter tones in coffee might affect results of the taste test
@macrumpton
@macrumpton 4 года назад
Maybe one layer of paper towel and a layer of some kind of reusable nostick sheet like teflon baking cloth? I wonder if perforating the paper towel (drill the roll) would help penetration.
@mikeCavalle
@mikeCavalle 2 года назад
haven't checked in in awhile -- hope all is well -- i've been sprouting in clay pot bottoms and have really good luck -- two bottoms per station - one up one down.. grows great sprouts.
@randytrashcan
@randytrashcan 4 года назад
Well, maybe try shredded newspaper or shredded paper towels; something that might act more as a soil than a woven fabric?
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
That’s a great suggestion! We will see about giving that a shot. Thanks for sharing 🤗🌱🌱
@randytrashcan
@randytrashcan 4 года назад
@@OnTheGrow Just a thought on a way to keep the cost ultra low but giving the radicals something to dig into. I know you mentioned multiple layers of paper towels molding, so this might be a disaster. Either way, I'd love to see you give it a shot!
@nickhetzer2744
@nickhetzer2744 4 года назад
Or toilet paper when wet it seperates the fibers and be like coco
@WealthWeaves
@WealthWeaves 4 года назад
Hey guys, thanks for the video. I have been just thinking about light schedule for a day. Have you been trying some different kind of schedules for ligting? Like 18/16 , 16/8, 24/7, 12/12 and ohers. I have two possibilities. First is that microgreens can handle 24/7 and they do best with this kind of schedule (they grow nonstop so you shorten growing time) but second thing is, what if they would love to rest during some hours and as a result they would look better and actually grow the same time. Have a good one!
@retheisen
@retheisen 4 года назад
I've wondered about how plants might respond to non 24 hour cycles. Can they be "charged up" for 3 or 4 hours and then be left in darkness for 1 hour. Then back to another "on" cycle? Would they "sense" having experienced 20 light cycles but only five 24 hour days.
@mlav6083
@mlav6083 3 года назад
Good vid....ty. If consider the lesser germination, time involved, and especially the greens absorbing what toxins are in the paper towels, the soil or coco is the obvious choice unless soil not available. Can the same thing be accomplished by spraying the product 2-3 times a day vs. using the mesh trays and water underneath or is it critical to have the roots get direct water? I know with fruit trees, more nutrients are absorbed via the leaves than the roots. Look forward to a response if have a moment.
@TheWildhorse1000
@TheWildhorse1000 4 года назад
paper towels has 2 plies, I split paper towel into 2 separate sheets and use only 1 sheet. It's thinner and roots can poke through easily & save paper I use 2 trays ( bottom w/ no holes, , top tray perforated) The bottom of tray i leave about 1/2 inch water and let the extra paper on each end to touch water ....".self wicking water". ( NOTE: I would have a few small rocks or something so the top tray would be about 1-3 mm above water, or slight tough okay, but not submerged in water). I spray it little bit of water to moist the paper & seeds then I cover the top with dark breathable cover.. Leave it and forget it (but do check it from time to time). The idea is similar to hydroponics...Once the roots It works w/ small trays. I ve never tried big trays like you. The idea is doing hydroponics.. I did this a few times, but i'm not into microgreens. Just a thought for some of you out there to test it out further. Thank you (Btw,for big seeds, I think do w/ muslin fabric to retain moisture better)
@bonilla2022
@bonilla2022 4 года назад
Greetings. I had the idea of shredding the paper towels as a growth medium. ie paper shredder. Might give the roots something to grab onto. Thank you You guys ROCK!!
@bs4638
@bs4638 3 года назад
Paper towels generally breakdown faster and might start smelling, leading to fungal and/or bacterial infections.
@samartchantavong5040
@samartchantavong5040 4 года назад
My guess is if you put like perforated plastic sheets with smaller holes size then your seeds on top instead of paper tower it could make things easier for commercial scale also try NFT spreader mat it's designed for even water flow with good Co2 ratio and it expands a little when contact with water easier for roots to get where you want them to go.
@AnnihilatorAirguns
@AnnihilatorAirguns 4 года назад
I just finished a full indoor growing area. You guys are great. I follow every video. You are very cute. Like really cute, but she's a better draw for viewers.
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
Glad to hear you got your indoor growspace setup! Thank you for the support!
@AnnihilatorAirguns
@AnnihilatorAirguns 4 года назад
@@OnTheGrow love the channel. I have 16 trays to run now. Sunflowers, peas and arugula are the primary crops.
@shirleyavon3809
@shirleyavon3809 2 года назад
On The Grow: Could you germinate smaller seeds in a jar first and then when they are big enough so they don't fall through the holes in the tray, transfer them to the tray with water underneath?
@lf9286
@lf9286 Год назад
you can use the jar for the whole process
@blessisrael6455
@blessisrael6455 Год назад
Yes, he didn’t use seedling soil on top of the paper towel. Sprouting in a jar requires a lot more maintenance as apposed to having a self-watering system where you can use to replant in hydroponics …..
@SapioiT
@SapioiT 3 года назад
I think you should (and please) also test tissue paper (the dry variant) and toilet paper (cheap one-ply paper-looking, and slightly-more-expensive multi-ply softer-looking/fluffier-looking) as well, in a new test including the papel towel and Coco Coir (or what else you use now). I think the tissue paper or toilet paper might be either more cost effective, or more root-growth effective or sprout-effective. The point being that if you can get a 10% loss for 20% lower cost (including the costs of the lighting and air conditioning), it would be a better business choice.
@carolhicks231
@carolhicks231 2 года назад
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
@AnonEeMouse
@AnonEeMouse 4 года назад
Leather craft stores sell a tool that looks like the rowl of a spur and if you the paper towel on some kind of sponge surface or maybe a cork board and rolled it back and forth a little to create micro perforations, you might get better penetration while still keeping cost low. You could also lay down a sheet of baking paper, insert a small nail into each of the holds in a block in the bottom tray and cover them with an inch thick or so later of hot glue, the resulting tool could then be used as a perforation tool to be used to punch a layer of baking paper instead of using paper towels but it would hold less water. Or just use it to make better perforations in a layer of paper towels.
@DougDobak
@DougDobak Год назад
Try a pizza dough roller- faster.
@melusine826
@melusine826 4 года назад
Could you use coffee grounds with something mixed in?
@squiddyzbattlecats1167
@squiddyzbattlecats1167 4 года назад
Great video but Wouldnt different paper towels retain. More soil or not be as good as the other one i was wondering if different towels work also would you think that a Cloth towel Would retain moisture better or worse Because i think if you tried growing microgreens on sponges would be cool because sponges are know for keeping in moisture, also i was Thinking if you grew microgreens instead of soil u could put a banana peel let it decompose and plant a microgreen in it i know microgreens dont need alot of nutritional value but it would be intresting it would also be cool if you compared your favorite mediums to grow microgreens in. Great video, Have a great day and stay safe!
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
Thank you so much for the suggestions and your support Daniel! We have actually considered cloth towels as well since they are reusable! We will look into the banana peel for a home nutrient source in the future, thanks for the suggestion! Thank you again for your support 🤗🌱🌱
@ninastjohn
@ninastjohn 4 года назад
I love your experiments! I saw a video on another channel where they grew microgreens on coco coir with paper towel on top. I wonder if that would work better than paper towel alone?
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 4 года назад
Great question! We could give that a shot to see how it works! Thank you so much for the support 🤗🌱🌱
@SapioiT
@SapioiT 3 года назад
An interesting experiment would be with paper towels completely covering on all sides a half-an-inch of soil. Ideally, the paper towels beign on the bottom and sides, and paper napkins (which are thinner) on the top, to allow the roots to pierce through to access the nutrients in the soil.
@cherylmillard2067
@cherylmillard2067 Год назад
Kitchen scissors/shears would harvest without tearing the seedling or pulling the grow medium up into your product.
@bpkey123
@bpkey123 4 года назад
What if you try paper towel on top of Soil or coco? Will it keep the finish product cleaner
@jackvegas3705
@jackvegas3705 Год назад
Maybe try blue "shop" paper towels, available at Home Depot and other hardware and automotive stores. Maybe Amazon too. Much thicker and more absorbant than standard household paper towels.
@inztramental
@inztramental 3 года назад
Very nice experiment. Appreciate your efforts and information 😃
@OnTheGrow
@OnTheGrow 3 года назад
Thank you Inztra MENTAL for the compliment! 😄 Glad to hear we're aiding in any way we can!!🙂
@ziggysam6139
@ziggysam6139 Год назад
You can grow directly onto terracotta trays or saucers. Terracotta absorbs excess moisture, and the radicals adhere to it well.
@lidip8700
@lidip8700 Год назад
I'm going to try that & also try with burlap.
@yulai3818
@yulai3818 2 года назад
You could use cloth, like burlap. That will absorb more water and avoid getting the coir in the harvest product. To harvest, just take out of the tray, put on table and pass a knife cutting the roots while holding the cloth making easier and cleaner. And may be cheaper than coir.
@Flatus4La
@Flatus4La 4 года назад
These trays look great … where do you find them?
@jksatte
@jksatte 4 года назад
Bootstrap gardner has great trays. Try them. I just ordered trays for this purpose. Janice
@continuousharvest5822
@continuousharvest5822 4 года назад
Thank you for posting your experiments. I use paper towel in a perforated tray for broccoli microgreens in an automated flood and drain system. I feel that the medium is the root mass, not the paper towel. I use paper towel because without paper towel, and with no medium, too many seeds were moving from the 1020 perforated tray into the flood tray. I do not stack the trays, they are open on top, but in an enclosed, ventilated, dark box until the led lights are turned on on day 6. I set the flood cycle to every 3 hours for the first 5 days, then every 5 hours for days 6 through 9, and every 10 hours on day 10 (harvest day). I am also growing sunflowers in another tray (with no medium, no paper towel) in the same flood tray, so my timing is based more on the needs of the sunflower, which are more challenging. For the sunflower, I warm the trays to 85F for the first 3 days, 80F for days 4 and 5, 75F for days 6-9 and ambient temperature, usually 65F the day before harvest. My system is entirely automated so I could turn it on and let it run unattended until harvest on day 10. However, I tend to look at it every day and about day 5 or 6 add a mild hydroponic nutrient solution to the reservoir. It also works without nutrient solution on plain water. I like the paper towel and no medium method for easy cleanup, just flip the tray into the compost bin and rip a few roots that penetrated the perforated tray.
@amypalladino2584
@amypalladino2584 4 года назад
I just got a tray from amazon that has these tiny holes over the entire tray. Different sizes though. Broccoli seeds fit perfectly in half of the tray. And Radish fits perfectly on the other half. The seeds just slide into the little divets. Cress seeds have fallen through the holes. But wheat berries and peas work great in the tray as well. I just did a search for 'sprouting tray' and it came up. If it helps its the green and white one
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