Can this HDZERO RACING WHOOP really compete? LET'S FIND OUT!

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This 22.8 gram 1S WHOOP has HDZERO digital FPV. That's super cool, but is it light enough to be competitive at an analog whoop race? I took it to Sumerian Brewery to find out! Links and related videos below:
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@BOTGRINDER 2 года назад

I love how whoop races are always at brewery's haha

@HendrixFreakazoid 2 года назад

And just when I thought my chronic tiny whoop addiction couldn't get any worse along comes Mr. Shutterbug with HD.

@nyclassic4ever130 2 года назад

But mob 7 was already out. This seems much more nimble tho 👍🏾

@baggszilla 2 года назад

Yess I can't wait to get my hands on some 1s HDZero whoop VTXs!

@sketchpv3080 2 года назад

Totally blazed through the track section around 1:42!

@wintermute4755 2 года назад

I need one of these now! So great!

@TeeDubb 2 года назад

Can't wait for this to be available!

@louisolauson5769 2 года назад

I really need to get down there for one of the events that course looks dope!

@richardmcguigan1382 2 года назад

very cool build

@RyanQuellet 2 года назад

Love this content. I am hopeful for a high quality 4x3 3g camera soon - would be a game changer

@rancorbob 2 года назад

Man isn't it always MIPI cable LOL. Thanks for sharing shutterbug super clean build and one of a kind as usual! 👌 well done sir

@AGILISFPV 2 года назад

HD Whoops is the future, no doubt about that. Thank you for making things like this happen!

@JPspinFPV Год назад

I gotta start going into Sumerian for these whoop races. Never raced before myself, but damn interested.

@rancorbob 2 года назад

Also I'm going to vote soft bends are best too on those delicate MIPIs too thanks for the tip!

@z506fpv5 2 года назад

I will get back to whoops when this 1S HDZero Vtx is available. I experienced a similar behavior with the whoop Vtx + HDZeroNano camera on my TinyTrainer. Sometimes after a crash or randomly after plug-in image gets black. Have not tried changing the Mipi cable, now will try and see if that is the issue. Thanks! Love your videos.

@mouseFPV 2 года назад

not apples to apples but I've found the MIPI's on my vistas to be a bit of a weak point as well. Not a unique issue to HDz. congrats on 4th place! track looked fun :)

@thfpv4974 2 года назад

Awesome

@MichaelDFPV 2 года назад

Looking forward to what HDZero has lined up for release. Watching Analog and HDZero back to back looks like the difference I see when putting my previous prescription glasses on. It is clearer but not sharp. 😆.

@Super_Mario_Fpv Год назад

Damn mipi cable at it again. Really want one. Not sure building one is up my alley yet.

@doccock100 2 года назад

You need to start your own brand. It would save waiting a year for someone to rip you idea off so I can then fly something similar. With a digital whoop my drone selection may be complete (for a while anyway)

@wingsounds13 2 года назад

The weight penalty has become small. Certainly small enough for it to be of interest in my favorite class of quads - toothpick. It is amazing to see a viable digital whoop. There is still a cost penalty and these days I have to pinch my pennies awfully hard. I'm still hoping that the cost will come down a bit more. Watching HDZero closely because that would be my choice of digital as of today.

@richardmcguigan1382 2 года назад

i real find myself checking your channel alot hoping for new videos

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

Yeah, I've been a bit busy lately, but keep checking back. :-) If you follow my Instagram feed, then you'll know that I've also been tinkering with some electronics projects recently. I'll probably talk about those on the channel here in the future. I think there's actually quite a bit of overlap between the FPV hobby and the maker space in general.

@richardmcguigan1382 2 года назад

@@MrShutterBug yes i know i just wanted your take on it. i was thinking about converting my iflight75hd but i am not sure on the durability of it with everything exposed. i was wondering if you considered a project like that?

@travissowell3329 2 года назад

I built a 2s version after seeing your vid. I absolutely love my hdzero mobula7. BUT,,, 5 or 6 batteries in my foxeer camera stopped working. Now i am grounded for 20 days or so while my camera is on the slow boat from China..

@662SSIPPI 2 года назад

Great video is that a brewery? That's awsome you can set up a drone race at work ...if that's your job

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

Haha. Yes it is a brewery. No I don't work there.

@vonpwnz0r 2 года назад

Would you ever consider running a proper canopy? Things seems to break a lot faster without one. And thanks for the video, I really like to get informed on HDzero and your videos are really good. The difference from analogue is not enough for me to up the weight and cost - yet.

@dkbbass403 2 года назад

Thanks another great video. Can't wait for the 1s vtx to be available! I built a 85mm HDZero after watching your video, didn't get it quite as light but a lot of fun, unfortunately eventually after much abuse, a tiny component detached from the board, it still works but range is much decreased, impossible to replace such tiny components. Also bought the Mobula7 HDZero, fantastic fun. Has an occasional issue when bat first connected image is garbled but reconnect and all ok. Do we know if the 1s is in production yet?

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

Yes, I have heard that the 1S VTX is in production. That probably means we'll get an official release in a few weeks, but no promises on the timing.

@syluntbob6877 2 года назад

I preferred the analogue picture, had less breakup!

@ATXAirborne 2 года назад

At first I was thinking you're rough on these 1S VTXes man! Enjoyable video, I had been looking forward to seeing you use this in a race. Excellent work with the custom camera and it looks like the whole system works together pretty well. Any idea what the deal was with the RF interference? You mentioned that was a surprise.

@alexhawkins8941 2 года назад

maybe all that Metal in the room....

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

RF is always tricking inside a building with multiple pilots in the air. I think someone's VTX was outputting significantly more than 25mW. The analog flight was pretty clean because that was a different group of pilots and we had worked out the issues by that time.

@gonebdg 2 года назад

Amazing ... it's a dream near came true. Will it be better to seal the cable/socket with the sealent which ussualy used to tighten ufl antenna on RX ?

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

We’ll, that would keep the MIPI from coming off, but I don’t think that was the problem. I think one of the tiny wires got damaged. Sealant on the connector could make it a lot harder to repair in this case.

@gonebdg 2 года назад

@@MrShutterBug oh I see ... then I'm worry that the tech. to get the best mipi cable will not cheap 😅

@gmivisualsjason3729 2 года назад

I think it shows how good analogue still is. But yes I'm a fan of Hdzero and fly it myself. Those mipi cables are very fragile.... Great video

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

Analog gets the job done for sure and the analog footage at the end of the video is about as good as analog can be. TinyWhoop Pinch cam + RapidFire + PowerPlay 60Hz DVR.

@mariussthlm 2 года назад

I got like 5-6 mipi cables damaged in few month time. They are really sensitive

@levibruner4406 2 года назад

Looks amazing!. I can't imagine how much more enjoyable an HD setup would be. I'm a newbie and would love to go check out Emerald City Drones in Arlington, Wa that you showed in a previous vid. Unfortunately I crashed my Eachine Novice II a month ago and after replacing the damaged motors it throttled up a lot more that it should all on it's own then disarmed. Since the area under the flight controller was extremely hot I assume that's the problem? I've been trying to find the replacement but can't even by the name NanoX F4FS V1.0. The closest I've found is the Crazybee F4 V3 AIO but have no idea if it would work. Any advice to help get me back in the air?

@doccock100 2 года назад

If it's throttling up then it sounds OK to me. make sure that you are ready to disarm and try to fly it. It is normal for the motors to go full blast if you give a little throttle and hold the drone still - it is because the drone doesn't know why it is staying still and trying to break free. If the drone tries to go to the moon when you take off then either 1) something is loose 2) props or motors are not correctly orientated 3) Filter settings are to little (see Betaflight set up) Bardwell has videos for trouble shooting this

@andywakelin1380 2 года назад

Is there a way to run the (upward connector) mipi cable down the back of the canopy? Maybe tie it with some thread?

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

Yeah, that could work. The canopy is a 3d print. I could probably add some loops to hold the cable.

@MadNitr0 2 года назад

If I wanted to get my kids flying what is the best 1s bind n fly or plug and fly kit you would recommend for that?

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

If you want a kit where everything is included, then the EMAX TinyHawk kits are pretty popular, as are the BETAFPV Cetus Pro kits. The Cetus has a beginner mode that tries to hold position for you. That can reduce frustration for younger kids, but flying takes practice for sure.

@MadNitr0 2 года назад

@@MrShutterBug sorry should have told you that thay are rather good in the simulator and are starting to get board of it so thay need something that will take a beating but also chalinge them

@gingerdude94 2 года назад

I am super interested in HD zero, I have a set of eachine 300D goggles, could these be used and if so where do I buy the HD module for the goggles?

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

Your goggles will work as long as they support HDMI input. The HDZero receivers are out of stock at the moment, but they are working on a new batch that should hit stores within a few weeks (according to what I heard previously).

@gingerdude94 2 года назад

@@MrShutterBug thanks for replying 👍

@docekalt 2 года назад

What about the speed with HD whoop and the analog one?

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

Top speed is similar, but my analog build definitely accelerates faster because it is about 4 grams lighter.

@docekalt 2 года назад

@@MrShutterBug And how big difference was that in race times?

@richardmcguigan1382 2 года назад

hey are you okay...did you see the mobdigital 2s ?

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

I'm okay. :-) You're talking about the DJI 2S whoop right? That's a totally different build in a different weight class.

@AlexLebed 2 года назад

well, sorry to point this out, but all footage from HDZero looks like HD analog with noise filter vs digital DJI FPV system. And the reason for that that HDZero under the hood really send video in analog format and does post-processing on chip. The question is: Does this different flying HDZero is really that great vs HD analog?

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

HDZero does not transmit analog data. It sends digital packets as data is scanned across the line. Chris Rosser interviewed the designer. It's a great video if you're interested in learning more. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5YYr2gUEgLk.html It is true that it does not look as crisp as DJI but you can definitely see a lot more detail in the goggles than analog, and the timing is noticeably more consistent than DJI. Both systems have their strengths.

@jinhachikuji7123 Год назад

Is it compatible to dji fpv goggles?

@MrShutterBug Год назад

No. HDZero (also called "Shark Byte") is an entirely different system.

@DJ_Kelpie 2 года назад

I have been flying fpv sims for the better part of a decade. I am 30, have 4 girls and I have gotten the okay to get a drone. However one thing has prevented me from pulling the trigger. The goggles. I know I want digital and I know I want good FOV. I also know I want to build and rip little toothpicks around. Do I go straight with dji and get the analog adapter and throw like a rapid mix on there or just go with something like a skyzone O4x and preorder the new HDZero system?

@DJ_Kelpie 2 года назад

I should also mention I have not been able to find anyone near me that flies so trying on a pair of anything is out of the question and must rely solely on w Word of mouth / opinion / recommendations.

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

Sorry for the late reply. You can definitely use the DJI goggles for analog if you mount an analog module onto it. I know several people who have done that. I have not done it myself because I prefer to use my analog goggles when flying analog. They are lighter and more comfortable for me, plus I don't like the way DJI makes you access analog through the menus. But, if you know that you want DJI, and you also want analog, then that is an option that works.

@DJ_Kelpie 2 года назад

@@MrShutterBug no I appreciate it! I've been watching your channel for some time and I love watching all the builds/conversions! I wound up going with the 04X and I'll get Hdzero at some point. I'm going to get a nanohawk next and do the nanobug conversion. Super stoked! Thank you for the insight and your contributions to the community!!

@MadNitr0 2 года назад

I should have explained a little better my kids are getting tired of the simulator (thay are better at it then me!) And are looking to stretch there legs with the real thing. So with that in mind what's the most fun you can have on 1s that can take a a few crashes

@MrShutterBug 2 года назад

Something like the Mobula7 1S would be a great option for flying both indoors and outdoors. It should be able to survive quite a few crashes, and if the frame breaks it's not a big deal to fix (E6000 glue) or replace. If you want something faster with more acrobatic ability, but still 1S, then I really like the 3" 1S Babytooth formula that Bob Roogie came up with (fpvcycle.com). I hope that helps.

@MadNitr0 2 года назад

@@MrShutterBug thanks!

@elxero2189 2 года назад

FOR THE CULTURE! :)

@RCRitterFPV 2 года назад

bummer.. almost prefer the analog, I like the softer more natural look, Like how Plasma is so much nicer than LED screens. my problem is as soon as I see breakup, I'm done. I don't trust it and come home.

@knoopx 2 года назад

never tried hdzero in person but, in this particular video, I agree the quality difference is not enough to justify the switch

@ATXAirborne 2 года назад

One thing we're starting to see as more people use HDZero at events is that in some cases, it can provide a usable signal in cases when analog is completely unflyable due to RF interference. That's been the case at a few events recently. It seems like a growing advantage to digital, beyond just image quality. In terms of overall image quality for HDZero, keep in mind that he's using a custom camera with a very lightweight lens. With the production cameras for the system, the image quality improvement is much more notable.