Can this Work with a Camper? My Parking Heater Experiment: Part One

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While many people use parking heaters for their trucks or vans, I was looking for a temporary heating source in my trailer when my propane heater was not adequate. This video is the first of two parts showing my attempts to use a 5kw Chinese diesel heater as an auxiliary heating source for my fiberglass eggshell camper.
Disclaimer: This is beyond the intended use of this heater, and is not recommended for safety reasons. It is merely an experiment and should only be viewed for entertainment purposes.
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@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

NOTE FROM SLIM: I released BOTH Part 1 and Part 2 the same morning, so please make sure you watch both to understand the full story. Part 1 is NOT the same as the one taken down. Thanks! SP

@blairwilliams136 3 года назад

Excited for these videos , thanks slim !

@Tom-In-Ga 3 года назад

Not sure if anyone else had this happen but I got the notice for part 2 first. Watched it thinking it was a continuation from your previous part 1 that you removed. Then I watched your new improved part 1. The order didn't matter to me. I enjoyed them both.

@apocalypticminister1369 3 года назад

Hey Slim???? Check out my last message brother? It may work?🤔

@apocalypticminister1369 3 года назад

@@Tom-In-Ga Same thing happened to me but, glad he released them and forget those damn Trolls

@KenPics63 3 года назад

Thanks for telling us this. I had just skipped Part 1` because I thought I'd already seen it.

@Nerd3927 3 года назад

I have my Diesel heater in a cockpit locker, also on the outside. I have been using it with outside air too, no circulation. It gives out nice dry heat, with relative humidity levels of 30%. Totally unheard of in a boat in the wet Netherlands. I really like it!! It is worth the effort to get it bug free. I would look for vacuum leaks in the fuel line before the pump, and use hard nylon line after the fuel pump. Also the Diesel needs to be of winter quality, add 1/4 of Kerosene to prevent it from clogging in low temperature if unsure. My heater will not go below 1.8Hz btw. At the lower settings you risk flame out. Well, those are my 2 cents, happy puzzling! (I do realize that part 2 is already in the making and you solved it weeks ago. Sorry but I have this Compulsive Fixing Other Peoples Problems Disorder :-)

@Ultrafrozen 3 года назад

SLIM, thanks for the uplifting videos! 1) I'd point the exhaust away from the fresh air intake. 2) Why don't you bring the thermostat unit into the trailer? 3) These are meant to re-heat inside air just like your propane heater does, not heat -6C air. 4) Did you open any vents to allow air out as you pump air into the trailer? These units shut down when they overheat due to lack of air flow. 5) Can't wait to see the final outcome!

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

7) Watch Part 2 right now . It will answer many of your questions. SP

@RobertErickson 3 года назад

I have one of these without the metal cabinet. I don't have the noise problem from the pump. I think the metal cabinet may be acting like the box around a musical instrument 🎸 which amplifies the level of the sound. I suggest that you open up the box and wrap the pump in something like foam rubber to insulate the sound from the cabinet.

@Cecilia-fc3sg 3 года назад

Loved, loved loved the video. I enjoy seeing your trouble shooting and figuring out how to rework things to make them work for you. You are always very clear your solutions are what works for you. Others might need to do something different. I trust your solving issues far more than I would reviews on an online listing. Good luck with your problem solving!!!

@pagewhite61 3 года назад

I’m eager to watch the next installment so I can see what you come up with. Thanks Slim!

@joemiller1158 3 года назад

Slim Great video No need to explain anything. I am glad that you are experimenting and doing things outside of the box. Keep it up. Always love all of your videos. Safe Travels

@_GntlStone_ 3 года назад

I have also heard/read that you need to run the heater at max temp for about 30 minutes periodically. It allows the heater to burn off the carbon deposits that build up when you use it at a lower temp setting.

@scottsladeadventures1102 3 года назад

Awesome... always love a challenge. Amazing amount of heat it put out. Top off the coffee cup and on to Part Two..😀

@MeiraV- 3 года назад

I haven't even watched yet, just had to say: Yay, a Slim video!

@cherriemckinstry131 3 года назад

Whoo hoo!

@Sebastian_Dinwiddie 3 года назад

For safety’s sake, I’d position the air intake as far away as possible from the exhaust.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

See Part 2

@andydavis1068 3 года назад

The Jackery turned off, if not drawing enough power... it turns itself off... the heater doesn't draw enough power on the lowest setting for the timer in the jackery.

@petecoventry6858 3 года назад

but if that happens the heater's mother boards gets damaged. sudden power loss is not good for them

@MW-lw8em 3 года назад

When you shut down, turn it on high to burn the carbon then shut down

@doreen3737 3 года назад

I'm glad to see that you reposted this "one", getting rid of the "other" comments... I know you know that the world is a big place Slim and not everybody is going to be nice... everybody is struggling one way or the other and sometimes people have to be MEAN because it reflects their own REGRETS on their own WASTED lives and dreams... 😪😩 they want other people to feel bad because it makes them feel better about themselves in a twisted sort of way... and of course everybody has opinions, you know what they say about those LOL 😕😕 it's a struggle everyday just to keep your chin up, you can't ever lose that HOPE and FAITH in your HEART. Keep doing what you're doing, living your dream doing what you LOVE ❤ try not to let people get to you... because if you let them, they will...😒😪 This was an EXCELLENT video and I LOVE the way you take the time to "set up" the camera and do your thing and then off camera you have to go back and get it... the effect is amazing and I appreciate everything you do... Take care of yourself, be well and if you ever want to post a video you can always turn the comments off, I know you know that. Happy New Year Slim, BEST WISHES and LOVE and AWESOME, SAFE Journeys in 2021 and beyond... hopefully we will leave this covid-19 behind FOREVER or at least get it under control.

@MrZyptuous 3 года назад

Slim, I really do enjoy your videos. I find these "review" videos interesting and educational. Being an engineering myself, I would love to know what your career was before you become a traveler. The way you approach and document is excellent!! Thanks for what you do. Greetings from Nashville, Tenneessee.

@roundpeg3239 3 года назад

I don't understand what the controversy could have possibly been with his last video (the one he took down). Are people that offended by something as benign as a heater install?

@SovietRipper 3 года назад

A lot of people in the camping community are nuts

@ARealCupcake 3 года назад

I don't think it was that people were offended, it's more so they didn't get what Slim was trying to do with these videos and were offering help. He made a video explaining why he deleted the video originally.

@williambranham6249 3 года назад

@@SovietRipper A lot of people outside the camping community are also nuts.

@rlsingle00 3 года назад

Great job. Interested to see how it turns out. Thank you.

@donnavaughn5393 3 года назад

Thanks you my friend happy New Years

@PTTM2006 3 года назад

Yiiiay, I found someone else that can't stand the smell of diesel , great video as always, happy new year

@whatyoumakeofit6635 3 года назад

It boggles my mind that people still wonder if these diesel heaters will work well for their rv, van, camper, bus. Lots and lots of people have been using them for years now. In the commercial industry, semi trucks have been using them for 10-15 years or more. Slim, i am lucky to have access to webasto and eberspacher heaters for very low prices. But same difference. I have a 1983 dodge van. Ive been living in it for over 2 years. I have a webasto. Just simply hooked to 1 battery. Works great. I can have it 80F with window s open when its -10F outside. Van isnt insulated. I don't ever smell diesel.

@Daz555Daz 3 года назад

I have a Webasto as well and it is simply superb. The fan noise could be a little better but I have no complaints in terms of heating performance or with regards to the amount of Amps it uses.

@cherriemckinstry131 3 года назад

@@Daz555Daz neat

@cherriemckinstry131 3 года назад

I love ingenious persons...and share your thought

@PeterRAllen 3 года назад

😎 wonderful images, videos and stories, Thankyou for your inspiration, best wishes for 2021 from Mount Mellum Queensland Australia

@interstate5trucker 3 года назад

Thank you for calling it a “parking heater” instead of “Chinese diesel heater”. In the trucking industry we call them bunk heaters.

@barfass 3 года назад

I don't understand the issue with "Chinese diesel heater". I say it like it is not a bad thing. They can build something that works pretty well, for damn cheap and sell it to us for cheap as well. If this was Canada or US, it would be made the same way and sold for 4 times the price! Thank you China! - How many bad comments for this one? Yikes.

@tnxjesus 3 года назад

Lol. Slim. You got alot of new subscribers so those are the ones who dont understand. But uts good to see you buddy. And as usual you come up with great ideas and the way you do things always inspire.

@raphaelsanchez4797 3 года назад

You are very methodical and decisive. And you are very thorough, that’s why I like watching your videos. I haven’t finished watching this entire video, but a concern that immediately comes to mind is diesel freezing in that plastic tank and flimsy cover. Has this happened in sub-freezing temperatures? Best of luck and hoping 2021 brings us all some semblances of normalcy.

@markmiller2131 3 года назад

I would have put a super large flange on the end of the heater supply air hose which was matched to one of the existing windows on the camper. Blow it right through the window screen. No more holes in the hull!

@kimpbay 3 года назад

Some people get good deals on these... but I didn't. Totally made me chuckle 😄

@nomadchad8243 3 года назад

My first one was 400$, my second one was 150$.

@TheResistorNetwork 3 года назад

Hmm. It might be simpler to consider outfitting your trailer with a larger capacity battery and a DC-DC charge controller to sip power from your Jeep while driving. You can also likely supply power to your trailer from the Jackery (love those things). Nice video. I enjoyed the progress.

@eddymahon1503 3 года назад

You’re amazing. The MacGyver of camping.

@doncarlton4858 3 года назад

Slim, you may want to use diesel anti-gel additive in winter because diesel will turn to gell in fridgid weather. A real advance over their predecessors, gasoline powered heaters. I know of people using kerosene or vegetable oil instead of diesel. Smaller versions of these heaters are ideal for use in vintage Volkswagens for driving in northern climes. The optional gasoline heaters for VWs are very rare, very expensive, big, and very complicated to maintain.

@taratevlin7480 3 года назад

Nice to see you back in action slim glad you didn't take the pc comments to heart looking forward to the next vid happy new year greatings from ireland ☺

@basails45 3 года назад

I installed one in my old camper and used it for a week. It works great. Yes, I can hear it but it doesn't bother me. I'm very happy with it.

@Fezicus- 3 года назад

I've always wondered who makes that blue jacket slims always wearing?

@Evski-if4gn 3 года назад

Merry belated Christmas Slim and have a happy new year! Thank you for all the content you give us. I’m a big fan of the channel

@stellarproductions8888 3 года назад

I tell you what Slim, you are going to fall in love with that click click sound, cause that sound indicates heat, and with heat, you won't be miserable in the freezing temperatures. Of course a higher end name brand heater will be far better quality. But it will be interesting to see how you make out with this heater in part 2.

@karencharny1497 3 года назад

You are so interesting the way you come across. Whiskey 👍👍👍

@mtss0917 3 года назад

Happy New Year, Slim. Stay well and safe travels.

@vonrollveeg 3 года назад

I don't understand the "Hz" setting. Isn't Hz a measure of cycles per second? How is that relevant? (yes, long ago I used to be an engineer - so I am easily confused)

@johnstanton8499 3 года назад

Yes each pulse of the pump

@rickcooperjr62864 3 года назад

you cant run these on theyre minimum pump frequency they will soot up and quit you need around 1.5hz-1.8hz to keep that from happening

@kathbeth43 3 года назад

Have a Happy New Year From Michigan.

@GHE2005 3 года назад

Slim, could you tell me what brand and where u got your corbon monoxide detector fir the trailer? Thx u! Hv a Happy 2021. Let's hope it's way better then 2020.

@lukespack 3 года назад

Slim needs to sign up for the vaccine. Weather looks fairly warm today.

@jennbroc4660 3 года назад

Love watching your videos, wishing you all the best for the New Year 2021. Keep safe.

@trafficsnitch3505 3 года назад

Another interesting vid Slim

@jonyap08 3 года назад

It sure is fun to follow you along on your adventures. This is what you call "real world education & learning". In a time of standardized testing, we need more real world problem solving like in your videos. Now let's say goodbye to 2020 and looking forward to a much better 2021 and all your new adventures to come!

@ellencha5975 3 года назад

Your creativity amazes me again. I would love to know what you did for a living,I hope it wasn’t a boring job.

@NikEdw70 3 года назад

I saw a review of this one and a Webasto, and its clear that you get what you pay for.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

That saying means nothing unfortunately. If I spent $1000 more would it be better? Or, I would just be out more money? It depends on the purpose, not the price. SP

@Daz555Daz 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead It would be objectively "better", but for your use case it is impossible to say as every case is different. There is little doubt however that Webasto makes a premium product - but they charge you for it! Still, mine is 21 years old now (same as my camper) and still working like it was brand new. Sadly I don't work quite as well as I did 21 years ago!

@NikEdw70 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead The video I was talking about was named $200 Knock-Off Diesel Heater VS $1500 Webasto Airtop Heater. There you see why there is a difference between costly heaters and cheap chinese ones. I love you videos and I understand what you are doing. But on a thing this important, its worth the cost.

@davidneilson3508 3 года назад

Hi Slim great to see ya. Happy New Year 🎆👍👍😊

@gpan62 3 года назад

The click is the pump. I've noticed that other rv dwellers suspend the pump so that it's not directly attached to a surface. They say it reduces the clucking noise. However, yours is an all in one.

@_GntlStone_ 3 года назад

I wonder that if the pump is mounted with screws or nuts and bolts if you could add some rubber/silicone washers to dampen the vibration and soften the noise. or if the pump doesn't get hot if you could put some sound dampener like kilmat or noico on it

@rodbagley 3 года назад

For a guy that wasn't going to cut a hole in your camper looks like you had no problem cutting a hole in your camper! LOL!

@richardhouvener6423 3 года назад

I wondered if the heater shut off in the middle of the night because its INTERNAL temperature got too high or if, say, a vapor lock in the fuel line/pump developed (assuming that can happen with diesel fuel), even an electrical short somewhere (I know, I'm just guessing now). Another thought, I know you like to experiment but have you considered adding another or larger battery? Looking forward to further efforts!

@curtissorg4687 3 года назад

Some of the other videos I have watched on these parking heaters had problems at low sets that the heater doesnt burn all the diesel in the heater chamber and it gets clogged up but once you figured out it was the jackery turning off. You are an excellent diagnoser keep on trying slim really enjoy all your videos

@wesleymcgonagle3394 3 года назад

I have had my diesel heater for about 2 years now and went through all the same learning curves as you did. We heat a rooftop tent and this is way too much heater for our needs. We have good sleeping gear and blankets etc. so we heat our tent for about 1/2 an hour and all the bedding is about 80F (26C), shut it down and we use it when it gets super cold or when we get up in the morning via the remote. end ofOctober we camped in Upper Minnesota and it got down to 23F (-5C).

@davidsradioroom9678 3 года назад

We hope you get your heating situation solved.

@williambranham6249 3 года назад

Not sure why there is a problem. He has a propane heater that works perfect. Why reinvent the wheel.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

You missed one point William: The propane furnace is a power pig. Wheel needed re-inventing! SP

@leesanchez8432 3 года назад

You have such a great attitude about learning through adversity.

@KG-cl9gv 3 года назад

Not that simple.... those “Salemen of RU-vid” are getting paid , to get us all to buy. I appreciate your honest objectivity. And sweat equity figuring it out for us others

@mark1966 3 года назад

Why can't they fit a quiet diesel pump ?

@mathewfranco3211 3 года назад

I’m smiling ear to ear. I love your videos. I try to figure out what’s going on, in my head as you are trying to problem solve. For 22 minutes and 36 seconds not a problem in the world. Thank you sir!

@BirdPhish 3 года назад

Good Morning Slim! Thanks for sharing! Happy Camping....

@CassySoSassy 3 года назад

Great to see you. Have a happy new year Slim.

@tomrobinson2919 3 года назад

Thank you so much for thinking outside the box and giving us your informed opinions. 👍

@johnswof 3 года назад

It's good to see you again SP. I wish you a very Happy New Year!

@geenote 3 года назад

I have the same heater with blue controller outside of my truck shell camper sitting on the tail gate. Easier setup that works out great on the truck shell and doubles as a shop heater. Good video - Thanks for all the work and sharing information.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Hi Keith, great to hear from someone who understands the concept. Too many get hung-up on permanent van installs and can't think beyond this. Thanks! SP

@sleeksilver 3 года назад

Hope you and your family had a great Christmas, Slim!

@JanelleVocate-Ames 3 года назад

SO glad to see you dude!

@barfass 3 года назад

Possibly the smell of diesel on the re-start in the night was not waiting for it to cool down? I know now why it shut off as you stated in the other video about the Power source. However, if it does that again, wait 10 to 15 minutes or a little more and it should be better.

@virginiatolles1664 3 года назад

Slim's here! Slim's here! I'm so glad to see you this morning, Slim. Not so your diesel heater. Sorry, but it's not my cup of tea. What I do like is your study to find feasible ways to live off-grid when the sun is as low as the temperature. I would imagine someone in Arizona is trying to find a way to live off-grid when the sun is as high as the temperature -- or maybe that will be your program next summer??? Hope you had a very merry Christmas and soon will have a very happy new year. Slim's here! Slim's here!

@stevekraynik2991 3 года назад

I suppose in a true emergency you'd just sleep in your truck with it running. Seems odd to have to carry yet another fuel source. Is it not possible to replace the existing propane furnace with one that doesn't require electricity? Or one that uses less electricity like a Propex?

@gudfarfar 3 года назад

Our old camper caravan has a propane stove and we could choose not to run the fan on it, to save on power. It would be heating, but not circulating hot air, so we never used it much without the fan running. We had a lead acid battery and it held enough power for a few lights and that fan, during a day and night, but I usually had to connect my car and run the engine to charge it up while driving. It worked great for us, although we never winter camped. Just during the spring, summer and autumn and mostly when it was raining and a bit chilly. We never ran it while we were sleeping. I have too much respect, being a firefighter, to be careless with such things.

@Bob-uw1zn 3 года назад

What about wrapping some rockwool insulation around the pump to get rid of the clicking noise and run a longer tube further away from your rig for the exhaust smell?

@truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793 3 года назад

So you got that fiberglass compartment you bought separately? From where?

@KristiinaKasepaluHarakas 3 года назад

Thank youuuu. Your projects are so inspiring

@ericsalkeld7146 3 года назад

HVAC dealers will have vents for high velocity furnace ducts. Matel ones are available

@nomadchad8243 3 года назад

I don't think you are supposed to run them down around 1.3 mine only goes down to 1.6. Even 2.0 is too low for too long. Both red bars should be showing on the monitor or your making soot.

@carycoombe3380 3 года назад

What is it that you have that produces both heat and electricity? (mentioned at 3:05) Was it your wood stove with the fan?

@joerod1240 3 года назад

77 dislikes, I don't understand what's not to like about this Guy's, videos...

@cleverusernames 3 года назад

Question slim, i know you considered it but have you thought of those 10k btu blu flame heaters, portable. quiet. crack a window for the moisture and wont make any diesel smell. but it is propane. Uses no power either and thermostat.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

I reviewed one. Huge condensation issues. SP

@cleverusernames 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead Pretty bad condensation eh even with a cracked window : Thanks for the vids sir!

@cleverusernames 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead I did find this item, its the same idea as that deisel heater but propane. Its also made to be used in the elements like under the carriage. Propex HS2211 is what its called but its not cheap

@caroldinius4402 3 года назад

Slim, why don't you install your wood stove. Watch Elsa Rhea, they live in a tiny scamp and heat with only a wood stove.

@Hogger280 3 года назад

Don't know what kind of furnace your trailer has that needs electricity but the one in my class C motorhome does not use any - just convection only.

@katherinewillie9776 3 года назад

Can I get the carbon monoxide tester? I've lived off grid in Trapper Creek Alaska for 22 years now and I had cheap solar panels from harbor freight shipped here and now I can get USB STUFF!!! THAT TOOL WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!! Thank you!

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

It's available on Amazon: amzn.to/3qcPHcq Thanks! SP

@srip63 3 года назад

Great job,I'm headed to part two

@johnbarone3711 3 года назад

Slim I've been following you for a long time it's the first time I've ever commented on any of your videos which by the way I think are fantastic.... the outside air vent that that you modified you should flip it upside down so the lid is shrouding the hose just in case you have inclement weather you're not going to get that little compartment with a heater hose from the outside goes in, filled with water

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

See Part 2. It's out!

@geraldhenrickson7472 3 года назад

I like this entire idea. Get all the diesel and the clicking and whirring outdoors. It even has a remote! Hope the problems can be overcome...on to part 2!

@petermiller5494 3 года назад

I found with my heater i had to loosen the fuel cap to let air in. The fuel cap was not breathing

@krtg85 3 года назад

Happy new year from Norway. Great video as always. I wonder if there is any heatloss from the airpipe connecting the heater and the camper.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

I was planning on it. It's too hot otherwise. SP

@86bigred 3 года назад

Having the pump on the lowest setting might have caused it to soot up. I use an 8 kw in my 27 foot camper and love it, plus i have the heated air recirculating, and mine is hard mounted in trailer. Looks like you were within a couple of miles from where i live.

@jeanariley7759 3 года назад

How are you recirculating the heated air?

@billiewright7532 3 года назад

Happy Buy is the sellers name not the manufacturer.

@MissCharliechop 3 года назад

Good to experiment. At first if don't like it tinker some more and more and more. 🙂

@davros517 3 года назад

You may wish to locate the exhaust muffler further away from the heater " Cabin Air Intake ", that's why the exhaust port on the heater aims downwards. Just a thought

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

See Part 2!

@davros517 3 года назад

@@SlimPotatohead Bingo

@jnlaf 3 года назад

Ye I give up my diesel type heater,(didn't like having to carry diesel fuel and the heater just something else taking up space) ,and went to a Mr" heater double heater the big buddy,,it got a small battery blower, runs of propane. Found it works better then my onboard unit..Kept the videos coming, very enjoyable

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

You must have a lot of moisture issues with the Mr Heater, unless you aren't cold camping. The amount of water they produce is crazy. Thanks! SP

@gpan62 3 года назад

The only question is will this heater work when placed outside in cold weather and precipitation..the mechanicals, the electronics...given that it was built to be placed inside? Also, the quality control of these "knockoff" heaters.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Part 2

@jeankelly2011 3 года назад

I understand the need, I understand that you’re doing a show, but wouldn’t it be easier to buy an extra battery? It would take the same space as the heater and the jerrycan. And when you’re out of power you plug your car with the engine running. I always appreciate your videos.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Adding another battery means you would now have to charge two batteries with the same resources. I have no desire to run any engine when I'm camping. Please see Part 2 for the conclusion of this experiment. Thanks! SP

@bigblueoutdoors5922 3 года назад

Good morning!

@ChristianLaurinE 3 года назад

IMO the reason why this might not be working is because you put the device outside. Diesel does not do well in colder temperatures. If you want to use diesel in colder temperatures you need to buy winter diesel. The device should have been installed internally. Propane works in most temperatures and is recommended.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Of course I was using winter diesel, I'm in Canada! Propane does NOT work in colder temperatures. The heater outside makes no difference to the power consumption, which is primarily what these videos are about. Thanks! SP

@doneown503 3 года назад

loved ur video & ur presentation! new sub here,

@Thin447Line 3 года назад

I still don't get why you didn't look at kerosene heaters. They are indoor safe, quiet, require no electricity and burn clean, readily available fuel at least as cheap or cheaper than diesel fuel.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Kerosene is not readily available if you are a remote traveler. If I can't get it in every gas station I visit, not interested. Thanks! SP

@ronj4727 3 года назад

Slim is definitely smarter than the average bear.

@billkennedy8869 3 года назад

if you watch Bob Wells, he uses a one burner coalmen stove with a 3 thin metal wall around about six inches high or so, with multiple layers of aluminum on top. it sounds like it wood fit your needs, the walls fold up flat on top with the aluminum on the stove easy to put a way too.

@SlimPotatohead 3 года назад

Bob Wells lives in the hot southern desert. This is Canada! SP