Can We have Minute Quantities of Alcohol in Our Food? (Ie. Vanilla) | Ask Shaykh YQ #11 

He’s an engineer as well

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He is a chemical engineer as well.

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I disagree with the Steak on Wine principle with the Shaykh, May Allah guide him and me to Islam. The reason being: 1. It cannot intoxicate you. 2. Taste as a ruling doesn’t hold any water. As wine that is non alcoholic can be used as well. That wine will give similar taste. However it would be halal. So the taste itself cannot be a ruling factor. However I will say it is Makrooh. It is better to call it makrooh. As we do not want wine normalized in the community. Extremely disliked. But sinful is odd.

He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount

@shaki60 As selamu aleykum brother. I guess I have to correct you. I think you should rewatch 2:45 There he is talking about "methanol". And after a quick search in the internet: Less than a tablespoon of pure methanol (10 milliliters) can kill you. ... Instead of becoming a harmless chemical building block, the body metabolizes methanol into toxic formic acid. Formic acid interferes with a cell's ability to make energy. An by the way, even pure "ethanol" can cause death: While ethanol is consumed when drinking alcoholic beverages, consuming ethanol alone can cause coma and death. Ethanol may also be a carcinogenic; studies are still being done to determine this. However, ethanol is a toxic chemical and should be treated and handled as such, whether at work or in the home. And for vanilla extract, I suggest quick search on islam qa. This is just an excerpt from the whole answer. (It seems that I can't post the link here) With regard to the ruling on eating vanilla, it is permissible even though it was mixed with alcohol during preparation, for two reasons: 1.Alcohol is not najis (impure) in a physical sense; rather it is taahir (pure) 2.The alcohol does not have any effect on vanilla; the one who consumes it does not become intoxicated and no effect of alcohol is seen when eating it. Rather whatever may become attached to the seeds during preparation disappears and leaves no trace in the seed. Something that is like this is not haraam to consume. We have mentioned the ruling on alcohol and that it is pure, and we have mentioned the ruling on foods and drinks to which some alcohol has been added, in the answers to questions no. 59899 and 146710. In the answer to question no. 33763 we quoted the following from Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him): Do not think that any ratio of alcohol that there may be in a thing makes it haraam; rather if the ratio is such that it will have an effect, in the sense that if a person drinks this liquid that is mixed with alcohol he will become intoxicated, then it is haraam. But if the ratio is very small and has diminished and left no trace, and it does not have any effect, then it is halaal. End quote. May Allah bless and reward you and all of us. Aameen

A salam alaikum brother/sister Im having the same problem here because when I search "can vanilla extract get you drunk" it says that studies show that 4 ounces of vanilla can get you drunk and what intoxicates in large is impermissible in small so I don't know if the vanilla is still halal

No. Not even a single drop. Unless used in medicine.

@@alexadebayo8687 you guys are missing the point. Vanilla extract consumed by itself might intoxicate you in large quantities, BUT when small quantities of vanilla extract is added to ice cream, it becomes a new substance: "ice cream infused with miniscule amount of vanilla extract", and it is now this new substance that has to be assessed on whether it intoxicates in large quantities or not -- which it doesn't. You could argue that adding wine or beer in small quantities also becomes permissible, but as the sheikh says in the video, there's another principle that has to apply -- the intention of the substance being added. If it's for the taste, it's haraam, but if it acts as a secondary product to achieve an effect (like preserving the flavor), then it's halal. If you're still skeptical: following your logic, shouldn't vinegar then also be haraam if it comes from wine, which is intoxicating? Vinegar becomes a new substance and isn't intoxicating in large quantities, so it's halal. While this isn't an accurate comparison, "ice cream with miniscule amount of vanilla extract" also becomes a new "substance", and this substance doesn't intoxicate in large quantities either, and the intention is to preserve the flavor of the ice cream. And Allah knows best :)

Hmm so would herbal extracts and tinctures be haram? Vanilla extract as explained halal due to it being added to food for baking. Herbal tinctures, however, are taken directly or with water. Ethanol alcohol is used to extract and preserve the herbs.

So does that alcohol I’m cough syrup and etc intoxicate? That is the main question

Dr saqib- since you agree with him and know a little bit about this subject, is certified organic sugar cane ethanol alcohol and water to extract the herb halal? I am trying to take this herb but it consists of 71-81% of ethanol alcohol.

@@kaycali4912 Depends on usage. Is it a food product or medicine? If possible please share the name so that I can check ingredients and manufacturing method.

@@drsaqibchoudhary4199 it won’t let me post the link here. Do you have an email?

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He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount

He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount

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Alhumdulillaah 🙂

Alhamdulillah Islam is practical at the same time. Remember even apples and oranges at a molecular level contain certain ingredients but that does not make it impermissible.

Do apples and oranges contain alcohol? I was referring to alcohol. That's just my personal opinion. I believe it's best to stay away from that which is doubtful. I am not judging anyone for not doing the same. Too much of anything can also cause harm. Be they apples and oranges or not. Unfortunately Islam is as practical as each individual wants it to be. Also..just because something isn't 'impermissable' doesn't mean we should take advantage of it. Divorce isn't impermissable but does it mean people should take advantage of that? As soon as people hear something isn't 'impermissable' their first reaction is well it's not forbidden. Does that mean we should ignore the fact that there must be a reason behind it being 'impermissable ' in the first place? But... and I should have said this before...Allaah Subhana wa Ta'ala knows best

Khudeja Begum who and how can take “advantage” of a divorce? That’s a weird analogy. Either you are or are not divorced.

@@khudejabegum5295 bread also contains very little amount of alcohol but it is halaal

Masha Allah...may Allah reward you for being so cautious until you knew for sure... inshallah we all learn from this example

please re-check if it is really a preservative before using! look at the ingredient; if the alcohol is listed at the beginning of the list then it is meant for taste because the list will list item according to quantity. A preservative is supposed to be listed last because only a little is needed.

Eli Mo chocolate “liquor” does not mean chocolate alcohol. liquor here is just a chemical name, not alcohol.

Jazakillah khair for the info

You can find non alcoholic soy sauces so I would say that is always better to get. Same with vanilla.

If we listen to the last principle the sheikh said we see that it doesn't even matter since the intention was not to preserve the taste of the meat but most likely to taste the wine

Right? The flavor often becomes concentrated

So am I ☺️

@ MIRiAM H, Alhamdulillah, Jazakumullahoo Khairan. Ya Uqhti. May Allah Bless you infinitely & increase you in Wisdom Sister. 🙏👋

He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount

@@shaki60 Vanilla extract would be impossible to be consumed to that extent that it intoxicates you. Have you ever tasted raw vanilla extract? You would need 1 whole cup of it to get drunk, and the taste would be horrible. Maybe the Hanafis were right - beverages with small alcohol percentages are not haram. In the Ottoman Empire, muslims used to drink a drink called Boza (fermented corn), which can be made with or without alcohol. They used to lace it with Opium and drink it as a way to calm the nerves. No Boza addicts have ever been reported because the drink is made in such a way that it doesn't make you drunk- it only relaxes you. "Only the dose makes the poison" said Paracelsus.

Grape juice and cider do NOT taste like alcohol.

If you can taste it Even if it is added as preservative, most probably it will be haram. If we do not know why it's added then ambitious things should be avoided according to shariah and especially in case of ambiguity if there is a considerable probability of it being haram then it is haram.

He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount

He’s an engineer not a biochemist

@@21972012145525 Ok Engineer

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Preservation probably !

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oo5ZZnL3qQM.html

www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/water-cooler/police-driver-drunk-on-mouthwash-fell-asleep-on-highway-during-rush-hour ...bearing in mind that the Qur'aan doesn't just forbid consuming khamr. Rather, it forbids even going near it.

Like the flavoring, it has a haram ingredient.

? He said it’s haram

This is haram.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FNkfL6j56vk.html

He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount

THATS WHAT IM TRYING TO KNOW TOO

No. It is the same as any other beverage.

Assalamu alaikum akhi - just because your wife is sensitive to alcohol does not mean that it is haram; it's like a diabetic telling everyone that "sugar is haram because it harms or disorientates me". Nevertheless, your point about the necessity to create an alcoholic business to preserve villa, which effectively won't be made by a Muslim, is not just incorrect but also very ignorant. Firstly, alcohol is not khamr as the shaykh made clear; alcohols are a group of chemicals which consists (and the in the case of ethanol, terminates) of(/with) a hydroxyl group (-OH bond). I'm a chemical engineer and in most of the industries we work in, ethanol has a variety of uses such as: Personal care products in cosmetics and beauty products Hand sanitizers that can bacteria, fungi and viruses Household products like many solvents Food Additives like the vanilla extract the shaykh mentioned Fuel component which increases the octane number in gasoline as well as being used as bio-ethanol Used in medicines and drugs And many more. Yes, ethanol is known for its use in alcoholic beverages, however, it's not the only use in which other uses are necessary components of life. Hope that helps insha'Allah. And Allah SWT knows best.

Saturn_ Slayer i know that we shouldn’t take medicine with alcohol because somewhere there is without alcohol available But I am not sure That’s how I was told 😸

@@MariamKhan-oj6zb Also, the difference between chemical alcohol and khamar

Nobody drinks medicines in large amount so it's permissible because taking care of your health is important in Islam !

It's based on intent roght? So the intent is for curing a disease,. This is my guess but Allah knows best

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I had the exact same question. Vanilla Extract has 35% alcohol. So If I consumed it in large quantities I would get intoxicated. Doesnt this make it haram by itself? And if haram by itself then haram when mixed with other food?

Firstly balsamic vinegar, the proper real balsamic vinegar, isn't actually made from an alcohol product, like the way wine vinegar is made from wine and cider vinegar is made from [alcoholic] cider. Instead it is made from grape juice, reduced and aged for a long time. It's more or less "syrup of grape juice+age".

Vinegar of any sorts is still vinegar regardless of its source, even white wine vinegar (and Allah knows best).

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No

Once wine changes into vinegar the ruling changes aswell. When the substance is changed it then has a new ruling. I asked a scholar and he said it was permissible. Red or white wine vinegar does not intoxicate. Ask your scholar

The link is in the video description

Hazzah al Balushi. Surat Nahl

No, it is still haram.

He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount

mzaalam The ethanol in vanilla is just the carrier of flavor whereas the alcohol used on meat is the flavor itself..

Husna Tariq that’s false. The alcohol added steaks and what not is for the fruity flavor of wine (made with grapes) to be imparted to the food.

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He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount

m1take he doesn’t explain it in this way in the video, but someone had to BUY that wine or make it and it is forbidden, so therefore it is haram to use it for cooking.

Most alcohol isn’t actually cooked off. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nxqAGbJ3bSA.html

In a recent video about gelatin,he mentions vinegar...he says that vinegar is halal but its origin is alcohol and that once the alcohol evaporates,you are left with vinegar...please do search for it

m1take no, because the wine flavor remains. I mean he specifically said this in the video

He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount

You shouldn't be drinking more than 400mg of coffee in a day, but that boils down to moderation as most people see caffeine as a tool, rather than a way to feel a buzz

@@Lordecai You mean 400mg of Caffeine (which is about 4-5 cups of American coffee, and about 2 small cups of Espresso). Caffeine is concentrated differently in different types of coffee and tea. That's what I'm saying. Let people moderate themselves.

@@DarioHaruni for sure, it goes back to the debate where caffeine is a stimulant, and so is cocaine

@@Lordecai So is sugar. Sugar is addictive just as much as cocaine is. A lot of sugar is intoxicating, so is a little sugar haram? I'm not arguing for or against these things being haram, I'm just arguing against the false principle 'What intoxicates in large quantities, is haram even in small quantities.'

@@DarioHaruni Sugar does not intoxicate in large quantities, so it is not haram in small quantities. In huge quantities it can be intoxicating, but even water can kill you in huge quantities, so it is relative.

He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount

The flavor remains and it is often concentrated

@@21972012145525 do you get intoxicated with falours ?

Saleem Roumaldaro the flavor is a wine flavor and thus is haram

@@21972012145525 Sorry Bro , do not invent in the religion . If you know the story of the Golden cow in the quran , go read again and tell what you understood .

Saleem Roumaldaro ??? You cannot cook with wine. Period

Non alcoholic beer/wine is halal. Beer batter is haram. It’s not that difficult

Water also cause harm in large quantity thn how come it's halaal?

@@thecuriouskid4481 he has answered about water in the video, listen properly. And coffee contains caffeine that's why I raised the question

By XYZ Assalamu alaykum. I think the brothers point in mentioning water is that anything taken in large quantities will harm you. This video is specifically about what is an intoxicant not necessarily about what’s harmful or not.

Jeanny Muslimah according to this video, vanilla flavor is not haram. Did you watch it?

By XYZ coffee is not khamr (an intoxicant) and no one uses coffee to get high/drunk. Sheikh Yasir has a lecture regarding the history and permissibility of coffee in the Muslim world.

NAUR BC IM ABT TO MAKE TTEOKBOKI AND I SAW THAT OT HAS ALCOHOL AND IDK IF I CAN EAT IT OR NOT CUS I SAW THAT IT USED AS A PRESERVATIVE????!

fatma salem ? Why would nutmeg be haram?

What ? It's just a spice !

Apparently, nutmeg is intoxicant. If you consume it in large quantities it will intoxicate you.

He just proved Vanila extract is Haram. Two point he says ethanol kills u before it intoxicate u. That’s not true many people around the world use ethanol to get drank. So he is wrong. Point number two he says they drop a small amount of Vanila extract in a large amount of ice cream so it doesn’t matter how much ice cream u consume it will not intoxicate u. He is missing the point Ice cream is not Haram of course the Vanila extract is, if u consume a large amount of Vanila extract it will intoxicate u. So it’s Haram like the hadith says what intoxicate u in large amount is haram in small amount