Can You Beat Kingdom Hearts 2 Without Keyblade Combos? [Complete] - LibraScope

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Kingdom Hearts as a series is widely considered a button masher. Kingdom Hearts 2 especially seems permanently marked by this criticism. But is it fair? Is it accurate? It only seems fair to me that we test this notion, that we challenge the idea by taking away the most versatile, core part of our moveset. So today we're asking one thing: Can you beat Kingdom Hearts 2 without keyblade combos?
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Video Segments:
Intro/Rules: 00:00:00
Twilight Town 1: 00:04:31
Hollow Bastion 1: 00:05:44
Land of Dragons 1: 00:07:40
Beast's Castle 1: 00:13:46
Olympus 1: 00:19:00
Disney Castle/Timeless River: 00:26:02
Port Royal 1: 00:34:12
Agrabah 1: 00:37:34
Halloween Town 1: 00:38:45
Twilight Town 2: 00:40:53
Pridelands 1: 00:43:40
Space Paranoids 1: 00:45:30
Hollow Bastion 2: 00:47:19
Land of Dragons 2: 00:51:08
Beast's Castle 2: 00:52:16
Olympus 2: 00:52:58
Port Royal 2: 00:53:24
Agrabah 2: 00:54:51
Halloween Town 2: 00:57:00
Pridelands 2: 00:58:15
Space Paranoids 2: 00:59:15
Twilight Town 3: 01:02:25
Roxas: 01:02:59
The World That Never Was: 01:08:49
Xemnas Gauntlet: 01:12:30
Outro: 01:16:30
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@deyvantwo5426 3 года назад

“What am I supposed to do if I can’t use the keyblade?” this

@Ruisu07 3 года назад

thankfully reflect is broken xD early game is brutal tho

@sakura368 3 года назад

good thing sora knows magic

@Iceythrowshands 3 года назад

he cant use magic without the keyblade though.

@deyvantwo5426 3 года назад

@@Iceythrowshands couldn't he use it with the wooden sword in KH1 when Riku stole his keyblade?

@Iceythrowshands 3 года назад

@@deyvantwo5426 oh yeah.

@jR0xas 4 года назад

Before even watching the video I already feel like this is going to be a Chicken Little/Stitch/Triangle run.

@LibraScope 4 года назад

Don't forget Limits and Magic :D

@cameronharding6055 2 года назад

@@LibraScope Or wisdom/master/final forms buffed magic. And technically Ragnarok if you make sure the combo part of it doesn’t hit an enemy.

@Trashley652 3 года назад

Roxas doesn't count because it's actually just a data keyblade

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Lol, yeah that's a good excuse :D

@alba2162 3 года назад

He also doesn't count because it says combos, I don't think a single dash is a combo

@alba2162 3 года назад

Also they're not yours

@PTp1ranha 3 года назад

@@alba2162 "Besides... this isn't my sword!"

@awesomehazimex7410 3 года назад

@@PTp1ranha Kinda makes me want to see a MGRR mod where the sword is replaced with the kingdom key

@DarkFrozenDepths 3 года назад

Also, Hidden Dragon was always useful lol. It lets you get the Star Seeker off of Valor Form sooner.

@johnpantag472 2 года назад

If you are a good player you go to land of dragons after every other world in the 1st world group.

@deadsagelife Год назад

@@johnpantag472 im doing level 1 and definitely did land of dragons last

@lightknight5364 3 года назад

To add a reason to why it is okay to hit the cornerstone's cage in Timeless River: You hang on to the hook with a reaction command. Reactions are legal in the run, and technically, while hanging from the hook Sora is still in a reacting state, so hitting the box is doable. You get what I mean, right?

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Ahahaha! Yeah, I never thought of it that way. You could indeed argue that the attacks are just part of the hanging reaction command itself, lol.

@justaviewer9012 3 года назад

@@LibraScope idc how long ago this was but before I found this video, I did this run of magic only which I thought would be interesting. Timeless ricer's cage was a learning point because you needed to finish off the cage using magic but the cage is only hit while on the hook. I learned if you shoot a blizzard spell and grab the hook quickly, you can end the battle with magic. This could be used to do the battle purely using magic but it is very slow.

@loganrenfrow2544 2 года назад

@@LibraScope I didn't check myself but I'd like to know whether those hits give Valor form exp. If not then I'd say pretty definitively that they don't count as keyblade attacks.

@LibraScope 2 года назад

@@loganrenfrow2544 Also definitely a fair point!

@blueflare3299 3 года назад

Player: Mashes X Revenge Values: You know the rules, and so do I! S A Y G O O D B Y E

@roxas5071 3 года назад

3 Things 1 Lingering Will in a nutshell 2 The fact that your pfp is Sora with a Gun makes it better 3 Roxas in a nutshell

@blueflare3299 3 года назад

@@roxas5071 Facts. I want to see an X-Mashers v the Lingering Will. I would either be offended by the playstyle or laughing my ass off

@roxas5071 3 года назад

@@blueflare3299 Meh not like someone uses limits except Limit Form or magic that is not cure or reflect on that fight mostly is just search an opening attack with a combo of 3 defense breakers and in the end a Explosion then quick run away search an opening repeat the problem is surviving things like his 3 curses mostly the attack one and the one that looks like Xemnas one from KH1FM other than that the magic cursed is mostly useless also you can dodge roll with good timing the arrow attack that gives you the attack and magic curse

@blueflare3299 3 года назад

@@roxas5071 Yes, but knowing all of that requires game knowledge and trial and error, which X-mashers usually don't have. Also thanks for the LW guide.

@roxas5071 3 года назад

@@blueflare3299 No problem believe i lost my death counts and im playing standard

@Venen_0 3 года назад

Fun Fact: The hot rod enemies are very weak to thunder, so you probably should’ve used that in the burning building fight, unless it takes up a large amount of MP

@LibraScope 3 года назад

If I recall it takes the most MP out of the options you have at that point. But, I didn't know that, so it might've actually been helpful, lol.

@Muckowitch 3 года назад

Actually they are even more weak to blizzard. They resist Fire, are weak to Thunder and super weak to Blizzard. You just need to time it correctly so you avoid their invulnerability frames.

@shadowsnake5133 3 года назад

@@Muckowitch so the cars would be dragon ground type in pokemon... i honestly can see this.

@Muckowitch 3 года назад

@@shadowsnake5133 I..... guess.... Honestly, my first thought was not to compare it with Pokémon, but with a real car. The motor gets pretty hot, so it has to be kinda heat resistant. With all the technology in cars nowadays they're kinda weak to electric failure, but they would still work. But if something like heavy snowfall is happening you are screwed.

@shadowsnake5133 3 года назад

@@Muckowitch yeah that too, but the fact dragon types dominated pokemon when I joined and the fact I still struggle with these buckets lead me to comparing them, and I'm not letting that die off now.

@keyblademasterct2 4 года назад

Wow, I had I similar idea; I was thinking of doing a "No Attack Command + No Optional Reaction Commands" run.

@LibraScope 4 года назад

If you're okay with a rather slow early game, I'd definitely say to try it. It certainly reframes the game in an interesting way. Though it could also break your brain for a little bit, because - at least for me - after I made this video I kept slipping into "No Combos" mode mentally whenever I played the game, lol.

@Smellbringer 3 года назад

Lore friendly variant of this run, "What am I supposed to do if I can't use the keyblade?" mode. You can use the attack command UNTIL the Battle of 1000 Heartless where Sora learns of the Organizations plans. After that Sora can only use the Keyblade on Nobodies because they don't have hearts and Disney villains like Sark or Hades. Honestly this probably is an easier variant, you can get a few levels of Hi-Jump and Dodge Roll and even grind glide because it requires beating Nobodies. Roxas and the entire Organization become easier as well. You can also use the keyblade after Ansem shatters Kingdom Hearts but the game is basically over by that point so it doesn't matter/

@LibraScope 3 года назад

That's actually a really solid idea that would definitely make it easier for people who may find this a bit too challenging, and allows for some cool roleplay :D

@Nexus-Flare Год назад

I like this I’ll do this on a replay the game on proud was a little to easy after that point

@BoP 4 года назад

Gonna make some suggestions for anyone crazy enough to do this. Early game you can use valor form to get back MP, just dont hit anything. Also the drive explosion does damage if you ever find yourself needing one hit. It's a good save because it gives you a free heal and free mp, and you can revert immediately afterwards. Getting a drive form removes all anti points and some fights you can't even get anti form. Meaning that when you first get wisdom you'll have 0 anti points which you can use to grind. And you can also use wisdom on Barbossa for more damage. Please use trinity more often, it's very good. I don't remember what he said about using the Break portion of team trinity but seriously just major drive and ultima are VERY good. Especially if you combine it with magnet.Use Jack's limit in Halloween Town. This is also very good. You can level limit form much easier. Go to agrabah to the room of treasures. Begin the heartless minigame and run to the loading zone but don't go into it. Lock and spam sonic rave. It's the fastest way to level and safest because you literally cannot get hit. Use stitch in the control room minigame in Tron world, and spam magnet and thunder. For the FF heartless battles you can actually level just a bit more if you picked shield and get once more which is a very powerful ability. With Stitch out, Magnet + Thunder with photon debugger might find you more success in mob fights since stitch is always refilling MP. At final xemnas if you want to save yourself a good chunk of time, learn where to use reflect during the opening reversal spam section. You can also reflect to avoid getting captured and playing with riku. Great video otherwise. I might give this a try.

@rexcuso6527 3 года назад

in the fight with MCP you can raise the valor form level using the delete command or others Reaction Commands.

@shadowsnake5133 3 года назад

@@rexcuso6527 that is the best form of cheating.

@blakelyready5980 3 года назад

@@rexcuso6527 I never knew that, that is really useful.

@rexcuso6527 3 года назад

@@blakelyready5980 I was not the one who discovered it, I saw it in a Stickman Sham video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S_GIPLsax5o.html

@jlabella211 3 года назад

Honestly, I felt just like you while watching this playthrough. I could write a list of strategies that he left us out on.

@MadMunky20k 2 года назад

Something that could have helped a lot early, especially in Land of Dragons, is actually Valor Form. If you kept Goofy on hand, you could have used Valor and instantly reverted to quickly refill your HP and MP in a pinch.

@D-Up242 4 года назад

Hey, something that kinda helps with the Zebra Xemnas fight: During the whole "We shall go together" Reversal string, casting Reflect before Reversing deals a decent amount of damage, and due to the fact that he hyper armors through all attacks during those moves, you can shred at least one health bar before he stops. And this strategy works just as well in his Data Battle, where you have to be MUCH more precise in your Reversals.

@mde1953 3 года назад

Extremely underrated content

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Lol, thanks :D

@AlbeLWarrior 3 года назад

Loved this video. I almost never do challenge playthroughs of games, but I just might do this one. Awesome job, man.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, and I hope that if you decide to try it, it goes well for you :D

@drakath5727 3 года назад

8:08 You could say his ping was causing him to lag.

@WizFish 3 года назад

I'm so damn happy that this video blew up, thumbnail always catches my eye when I see it.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

As am I, lol. As am I.

@lucaskincanyon7393 3 года назад

I knew I wasn’t crazy! I would always use the reaction command for reversal in the final mix version on PS3 for the final Xemnas fight and I always got hit out of it! I knew I wasn’t crazy!

@LightKing1237 5 лет назад

How do you only have 200 subs? Like damn this is some amazing content

@LibraScope 5 лет назад

Lol, thanks. Glad you enjoyed the video! We can see that number grow if you know anyone else who might be interested in the content I make :P

@herb2627 2 года назад

Could add the pushing Minnie exploit used in speedruns, you just push her into the side and run diagonally against the wall and Minnie to push her all the way to the end. I did this even before knowing it was used in speedruns because I play games like an idiot

@CasualGamerDude 3 года назад

Technecly, infinity doesnt use the keyblade to hit enemies, js. so leveling limit form is valid.

@elementallobsterx 3 года назад

Wait... Your subscriber count ISN'T OVER 100K? RU-vid is broken... Your videos are incredibly well done, and this one is the magnum opus. I listen to it almost every time I shower lol. You're great!

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Lol, I really appreciate that :D And now, as of now I'm not even lucky enough to be over 1000 subs, lol. Hopefully that changes soon though.

@elementallobsterx 3 года назад

@@LibraScope Me too. This algorithm is pathetic. You have all the right traits to succeed. Don't ever quit :)

@LibraScope 3 года назад

@@elementallobsterx Well, I'll try not to. But at this point I'm thousands of dollars in the hole, so it gets harder and harder to justify each passing year, lol.

@elementallobsterx 3 года назад

@@LibraScope Dang bro. I hope it pans out for you, but as long as you're doing it, do it as well as you can. The easy part is hard work, the hard part is inspiration.

@NoBrakes219 3 года назад

Excellent video man

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Thanks!

@Lazar_STS 3 года назад

Ah i see this video has grown,happiness and joy

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Yes, indeed it has :D

@GrayRocky 4 года назад

this was very interesting! good video

@LibraScope 4 года назад

I'm glad you and so many others seem to enjoy it :D I was honestly kind of afraid that everyone would just be like "Eww, this is trash compared to the challenges everyone else does!"

@GrayRocky 4 года назад

@@LibraScope haha no way man. I really enjoy challenges like these and u did a good job :)

@LibraScope 4 года назад

@@GrayRocky Good to hear :D

@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419 2 года назад

Man this made me realize what a good game KH2 was and how much the Disney aspect worked into the game to heighten the experience and how thought out the combat is that you can do an literal weapon less run I really hope that Nomura takes Insperation from KH2 when making 4

@SkullFace_Official Год назад

I honestly hope team tokyo comes back one day. Kh4 needs them.

@Adrian-qr6gk 3 года назад

34:11 now that is one of the cleanest transitions i've ever seen and it's with one of my all time favorite video games. I've never played a run with a particular rule in place but i think imma try a no attack, only magic run soon. It'll be a fun experience for my first challenge run.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

They can definitely be enjoyable, if you can find the right rules. That's why I've skipped over making videos about a lot of challenges I've tested out; because I want to find challenges that are rewarding and engaging, rather than just arbitrarily difficult. Not that there's anything wrong with super difficult challenges. They're just not my thing, and I'm sure a lot of people watching videos like this wish some more of these challenges were things they too could try out.

@Adrian-qr6gk 3 года назад

@@LibraScope i'm the same, i like challenges but only when it's about changing up the gameplay not just making a game a lot harder to complete which will make me tear out my hair lol.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

@@Adrian-qr6gk Interestingly, KH1 was technically the first game that drove me to try challenges like that. When the game was still new, I was the best out of all my friends at it. First one to beat the game. First one to beat Sephiroth and all the other superbosses, etc. Obviously, that original western version didn't have Proud Mode; it had Expert. And it didn't have the No Experience ability either. But I still remember beating the whole game and every superboss using the Kingdom Key, while staying as low level as possible, on Expert. Amazed I didn't give up thanks to that game also having major chip damage problems.

@vlogergames 3 года назад

wow... just wow... I would never be patient enough to even THINK about doing this, mad respect

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed watching it!

@alwaysdtf2197 3 года назад

holy crap, hidden dragon was legitimately useful for once

@rexdaily Год назад

On that grind!

@karmiccrotal3480 3 года назад

Behold, the youtuber that has found genuine benefit to using Hidden Dragon

@Iceythrowshands 3 года назад

Speaking of GET UP ON THE HYDRA'S BACK on my first fight against the hydra i heard phil say that but didnt know how to get on its back. so i sat there for what seemed like forever hearing phil yelling at me to get on the hydra's back.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Lol, I wonder if that happened to a lot of people, and that's why the line is so infamous?

@tehSunBro 3 года назад

You can technically kill the cage during boat Pete with magic, its just insane. If you cast a Blizzard spell, then immidiatly use the grab reaction command, the Blizzard spell will actually hit and damage the cage, however to do the fight this way requires to drop the crane after every spell, deal with some spawning heartless, before being able to do another spell.This will take forever.

@Charlie-hv3dh 3 года назад

Amazing video. TBH I feel like this video should get as many views as Gamechamp3000's lv1 kh1!

@LibraScope 3 года назад

I personally really like Gamechamp's work. But I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Don't be afraid to share it with anyone else you think might like it ;)

@theendermanking3616 3 года назад

Alternative Title: True Mage Run

@Murdoc_Mob 3 года назад

I've watched this all the way through and you gave me so many ideas to really put myself through hell while playing this game 😂 I would love to see more Kingdom Hearts on this channel

@LibraScope 3 года назад

That's the idea. As long as you're having fun while traveling through hell, it's all good, right? :D I have another challenge like this with a KH game coming out soon. And if it's the type of thing you're interested in, I have a review of KH3 from launch, and a revisit critique of it to discuss the Re:Mind DLC, the update that came with it, and Critical mode.

@Murdoc_Mob 3 года назад

I've watched some of your KH3 review but I got sidetracked with your Bayonetta video which is really good! Could you possibly do a no damage run in or the no keyblade video KH3?

@LibraScope 3 года назад

@@Murdoc_Mob Well, I'm definitely open to suggestions for challenge videos of course! However, for me it's about trying to find challenges that are fun to do, fun to watch, and that viewers might find fun to try themselves; things that test the mechanics in a lateral way. No damage is just kinda "Do it perfect.", which I don't personally find interesting to do. Not to mention, things attack you from off screen in KH3 so often, it sounds like a nightmare. I don't think I have the patience for it, lol. As for doing a no keyblade combos video for KH3, I've actually done testing on it, and it turns out it's a lot less interesting than it sounds like on paper. Since all of your spells are either area of effect attacks like Aero or Thunder, or just homing missiles like Fire and Blizzard (and all of their Situation Commands are just are of effect explosions), it turns out that to get through it, you just sort of... spam stuff. Or at least, that's how my testing went. That's the reason I haven't done more challenge videos in the last two years, is that it's a lot harder than it sounds to find a challenge that's fun and rewarding, instead of impossibly difficult or tedious. I have GREAT respect for the channels that do the insanely difficult challenges. But it's not my thing, and since this channel makes me no money, I don't have time to devote to it anyway, lol.

@Murdoc_Mob 3 года назад

@@LibraScope Yeah that's the thing, it's easy to watch someone do a challenge video like Mitten Squad, Senza and plenty of other channels and think "that looks easy I bet I could do that" when in fact it took the content creator weeks/months to do. As you said challenges can have some fun aspects of it but you can always tell when someone's not having fun and that what it should be about, there's no fun in repetitive.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

@@Murdoc_Mob Thankfully, I've got a couple more in mind that should work out pretty okay, and be fairly interesting. So we'll see how those go.

@livingtoaster1358 3 года назад

For POTC just walk up to the pirates and use reflect it'll take care of them also for the 4 gift heartless go immediately into the dance limit and you'll almost always finish that segment once you finish

@ItsKNabaha 3 года назад

For the third room in Timeless River, You could use fire to kill off the first wave of heartless, then use Trinity Limit - Triangle and end to instantly beat that room. That way you don't have to use Chicken Little, and save Drive.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

If I recall correctly, since beating the rooms sends you back to the main hill area where everyone is walking around, I technically don't have to worry about saving Drive; as long as Chicken Little is still out at the end, it should fully refill the Drive Gauge. But otherwise, yeah, Trinity Limit's finale sounds like it would've been really effective because of the enclosed space :)

@Arechz 3 года назад

This is top tier content!

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Thanks! Glad you like it!

@wulfywulfynrir1296 3 года назад

One thing to note if anyone else is ever crazy enough to try this Valor form can gain exp via reaction commands (common strat in the randomizers is to actually use valor during the MCP fight bc the reaction command deals a ton of hits) So it might be worth grinding it up for those abilities (I'd definitely check exp often to make sure whatever command you're doing counts)

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Oooh, really? That's cool! Gosh, I just love that so many people are adding to this, and exploring strats for it! I fully expected nobody would care, or find it that interesting, lol.

@wulfywulfynrir1296 3 года назад

@@LibraScope I actually JUST learned this one last week while watching a speedrunner doing the randomizer! and no lie...kiiiinda considering doing a variation of this challenge run ...once I've attempted and beaten this game on level 1 crit 😅

@LibraScope 3 года назад

@@wulfywulfynrir1296 Well, if and when you do try it, I hope you enjoy it :D

@businesscatlimbo 3 года назад

I was gonna do a magic only run. Of course, Roxas wouldn't count since he has no magic and it probably will essentially begin at the gate with Leon since that's where you learn your first magic.

@PS4sos21 3 года назад

A great bloody game that still stands up to this day. Its because of the style of the graphics I guess.

@couver73 Год назад

Fun fact about Valor Form. For SOME reason, using the reaction command that damages MCP apparently counts as hitting enemies for the purposes of gaining XP for that form. Granted, it's fairly late into the game and it's a pain just to be able to enter the form at all if Goofy keeps dying in one hit during the fight. So, up to you if you think it's worth doing it for levelling it up possibly once or twice.

@intotheindievods8821 3 года назад

Now, you finally found a use for Hidden Dragon

@deaj8450 3 года назад

I don't remember if it was out at this time, but Bl00dyBizkitz did a gold crown no abilities challenge so there probably are a few more kh2fm challenges out there.

@roselinecioran3774 3 года назад

You can fill up drive gauge by starting a tournament in the Underworld. I don’t know if this tipp ever has been said, but I never heard of it in any video

@sonnytapman 3 года назад

35:16 I’m gonna be real, the most challenging thing in this video is listening to that butchering of “Isle de Muerta.” For future reference, the S in Isle in silent, so it’d be “E-lay de Muerta.”

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Lol, my bad :D

@StilesReviews 5 лет назад

I watched this one the other day but forgot to comment, very interesting.

@k-p116 3 года назад

Some tips for whoever wants to do this challenge: in the early game, you can just use valor form to regain MP and then immediately revert. It might help you save time. To easily get the Bat Cry command, try hitting the bats with fire.

@johnpantag472 2 года назад

You do 2 hits jump and 1 hit for soldiers to get cyclone and a fire or a single swing for the bat command.

@pdaddy_collects 3 года назад

Appreciate how much time this took

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Thanks! Hope you enjoyed it as well, lol.

@axelviii1333 4 года назад

I think for the first worlds Valor isn't useless, cuz if u run out of MP u can go into Valor and instant revert so u get ure MP and HP back but still don't use Keyblade combos. But anyways awsome vid 😊

@LibraScope 4 года назад

Oh yeah, definitely. I'm not sure why I didn't clarify that myself in the video. I purposefully didn't use it for that purpose in worlds like Beast's Castle because I was afraid I might need it later, and I didn't want to risk dealing with Anti-Form. But looking back at it now, not only would it have been invaluable, but I really didn't need to worry about getting enough anti points to end up in Anti-Form before Wisdom reset the counter anyway.

@thehumanstunlock7588 3 года назад

@@LibraScope that and the transformation explosion would give you breathing room as well a bit of chip damage to work with in crowded situations

@LibraScope 3 года назад

@@thehumanstunlock7588 Indeed it would've :)

@ZenoDLC 2 года назад

@@LibraScope Anti Form might have been a blessing, it clearly don't use any Keyblades of any kind

@LibraScope 2 года назад

@@ZenoDLC This is true. But without any major defensive options, and with I think a 2x boost to damage take(?) it's pretty dangerous to use if you don't know how to. And I definitely don't, lol.

@izunia8436 3 года назад

I feel like in order to save yourself the stress make minigames an exception to the no keyblade combo rule

@LibraScope 3 года назад

That's certainly something anyone else is free to do if they try the challenge :)

@shielfoxftw8279 3 года назад

Fun fact: Each triangle press used in the Delete command against the MCP count as a hit, which would've made this a great fight to level up Valor Form for the run. Also, this was a great vid! I had a lot of fun watching it.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Yeah, someone else actually JUST mentioned the other day that Reaction Commands can work to level Valor :D Wasn't aware of that, but it's an interesting loophole, lol! Glad you enjoyed the video! I appreciate you taking the time to watch it :)

@ItsmaterHD Год назад

This gave me an idea to do a stream play though with only magic

@LibraScope Год назад

Sounds like a good idea! I'd say go for it!

@batch_2731 3 года назад

Oh something to note about Valor is you can level it using Reaction Commands that count as hits. Meaning you can get High Jump in this run with the meat of the grinding being done during the MCP Fight.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Indeed. A lot of people have been mentioning that :)

@nierawebster8026 3 года назад

Fun Fact: During the MCP fight you can use the Reaction Command Delete in Valor Form to gain EXP for Valor form to level that up for high jumps without using Keyblade Combos.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Yeah, been mentioned a few times. Seems like a really useful way to get High Jump for sure!

@iancomtois9832 3 года назад

Your friends (and magic) are your power!

@kidsonblackops 3 года назад

I would recommend using valor form to refill health and mp and for that faster running speed to dodge foes in the early game.

@bendy514 Год назад

I am still trying to 100% KH2FM (too bad I started in normal mode) and I've got addicted to these challenge runs

@tumultuousv Год назад

Nah it's good to start in normal mode. At least to do the no continue thing. At least if you mean trophy wise

@bendy514 Год назад

@@tumultuousv trophy wise, yes You don't get a trophy for finishing normal mode so I have to play the game from the very star, twice with no ng+

@loganrenfrow2544 2 года назад

"I don't need a weapon. My friends are my power!" *proceeds to do nothing but summon Chicken Little and Stitch*

@bignanavc 3 года назад

I'd argue that the floating keyblade poking the ball in master dorm is the keyblade attacking on it's own which since you aren't hitting the attack button and the keyblade does it on its own

@LibraScope 3 года назад

That's fair :) It's in a gray area, so there's no hard and fast rule there :)

@hchappy125 3 года назад

Something I realized when you were describing the Beast Castle world: You could've gone into valor form and just reverted to get your mp back

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Yeah, I just wasn't sure how much I might need to use that later, and didn't want to accidentally start running into Anti-Form due to overuse.

@hchappy125 3 года назад

@@LibraScope ach, fair. There’s always a hidden drawback!!

@outofideasexe 2 года назад

I love not using magic in the roxaa fight and instead use combos and blocks so it seems like a duel, this video only makes me appreciate my will lol

@LibraScope 2 года назад

I actually have a tendency to do that a fair amount myself, when I get to that fight in normal playthroughs :D

@BloodShutEyes1 3 года назад

Sick vid bruh

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Glad you think so!

@garrickkthegreat5762 Месяц назад

"At this point we have to fall asleep at the controller to lose" laughs at dark syde phils playthrough.

@viste_ 3 года назад

rewatching this after fighting Roxas on my first critical mode playthrough, i've noticed something in the second method listed, the sequence of blocking roxas' barrage of attacks and then reflect the last hit is dropped in laser phase because you can't guard the lasers, or so this video says. i can speak directly from experience that if you position yourself right, Roxas will reach you before the first laser in his combo attack, and if you guard you will be completely immune to the lasers for the duration of the guard, and for the final hit that you need to reflect he doesn't fire lasers at you but instead to the left and right to catch those trying to dodge. This does not work if you get hit by a laser first since you won't be proper guarding, just trying to, so make sure you block that first keyblade hit of his before the laser reaches you. so, if anyone is trying this challenge two years later Roxas can be made just a tad easier

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Yeah, that's probably something I should've clarified. A lot of things in the series that can't be initially blocked, can be blocked after you first block something else.

@N.G.H. 2 года назад

People on the internet are wrong about the Sark and MCP battle. The reaction command that renders Sark unconscious for a minute can forcibly be triggered by running far away from him. When running from him he'll throw a disc the size of the arena at you but eventually when you reach the max distance his A.I. will allow he'll summon a wall and when you approach it you'll get the reaction command to take him down instantly for a minute so you can focus on the MCP barrier.

@LibraScope 2 года назад

That's what I thought was the case, but for whatever reason, he just refused to do it here until the battle was around half over. I'm not sure what was going wrong.

@N.G.H. 2 года назад

@@LibraScope I think you might have to let him chase you a bit first. His A.I. will trigger the wall when you run far enough from him. If you're still too close to him but far enough that his melee won't reach he'll just throw a giant disc that runs around the arena but then you can still bait out the wall reaction command.

@Friendofox 3 года назад

Criminally underrated.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Thanks!

@Flutterdark_ 3 года назад

31:00 something i did not know until quite recently. when you use thunder right before you grab onto the hook then the thunder damage will count. so this is technically possible without keyblade htis. tho it takes a while. Also funny thing with the luxord fight. you can reflect when he wants to do the game to skip it and do damage. dont know which is mroe effective. Armored Xemnas 2 is a joke in this challenge. because magic lock-on = infinite thunder range. slow but its free. like you can stand on the ground and he jsut dies

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Yeah, someone actually mentioned that it should be possible to use Blizzard on the cage as well, and then quickly grab the hook to cause the damage to count. Definitely super interesting!

@Flutterdark_ 3 года назад

@@LibraScope i learned that when someone pulled it in a kh2 plando i made. was very shocked. blizzard works too since you can aim it. you can also hit pete while hes throwing objects with thunder (may require magic lock-on

@th3bear01 3 года назад

If I remember right there is a way to hit the cage in the boat Pete fight with magic, you have to use blizzard or something then quickly grab the hook and as long as it hits after your on the hook it will do damage. You could only do one hit at a time so it would take ages but I think it would work

@LibraScope 3 года назад

If that's the case, that would make it entirely possible to beat without combos :D

@santajohnsduraorduraclause4678 Год назад

12:00 “we can play this more carful” So I spammed fire

@LibraScope Год назад

Lololol, you're not incorrect I guess :D

@shadowsnake5133 3 года назад

I'm noticing you used Donald alot, and I just have to ask why? Like yeah, he heals, but goofy would be a better option because of damage right? Also, sark is definitely bugged, as I've never hit that clearly necessary limiter... then again, I run tp the opposite side of the arena whenever trons unconscious, so maybe it's a distance and life thing.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

I wouldn't say either of them is the 'wrong' option necessarily. And I'm not sure I consciously thought about it at all when I made the video. If I did though, I'd hazard to guess that I chose Donald primarily because A: Early on that means I'd always have access to Wisdom Form if I needed it, where Valor is basically only useful as a heal. And B: I tried to avoid overusing items, so that I didn't have to grind for Munny. So having Donald there for an extra heal is useful so that I don't have to waste my MP on Cure. Some of these fights lasted longer than normal, increasing the risk of needing to heal rather often. Running out of items would be super bad if my only remaining heal was through using Cure on myself. I'd be completely unable to attack for the next 30 seconds or whatever.

@alba2162 3 года назад

It's because goofy got hit by that rock and got knocked out before you start revisiting worlds

@redgle862 3 года назад

@@alba2162 Lol

@hypershadic2014 3 года назад

1:01:59 you could have switched to valor form real quick and leveled up to get high jump there. Apparently that reaction command with Tron counts ad keyblade hits. Why not sure but nice thing.

@horse_plinko 3 года назад

EDIT: ignore this somebody else already said it lol Valor Form isn't COMPLETELY useless, by the way! I can think of one immensely helpful use for it! Throwing on a Drive Form, even Valor, will completely restore your MP along with your HP... AND there's nothing stopping you from just immediately hitting Revert to get your Magic back. In the earlier worlds, you could use stepping into Valor for an instant as a cheap alternative to popping an Ether, giving you some more room for error in portions like that hide-and-seek camp mission in LoD. Using Valor like this comes with the risk of dropping into AntiForm, of course, but ideally you'll be able to lean more reliably on Ethers loooong before you get to Wisdom Form, and then you'll be in the clear again since getting a new form resets your Anti-Points.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Yeah, lol. Something I regret not being more clear about in the video :)

@justcallmexen 3 года назад

I thought I was the only one to come up with this idea. My challenge was "Can you beat KH2 without Sora using the Attack command?" It is slightly less restrictive, as I still allowed for any square button moves. Still no counterguard, as it requires the menu to be on "Attack" to perform

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Yeah, I figured it was something at least a few people had thought of. I was surprised when nobody had done a video on it yet.

@shadowcat4695 3 года назад

You could have leveled valor form during the mcp fight just go into valor and use trons reaction command delete it will count towards valors exp every triangle button press

@Luuute 3 года назад

Yes. With all the negative combo parts you can make your one and only attack an infinite stagger combo

@livingtoaster1358 3 года назад

As someone who use to want to speedrun this game it's actually better that you just have the basic magic combos because finishers deal a lot of damage

@AntiRiku 2 года назад

wish there were more kingdom hearts challenge videos

@LibraScope 2 года назад

I've tested out a few others, but haven't found anything that was particularly fun for me to do, or fun to watch. But I do have a few other ideas for different games and series'. I'm planning on making one for Final Fantasy VII this year, so if that interests you, stay tuned :D

@stareanddream 5 лет назад

This is going to be impossible...right...RIGHT...R I G H T?

@LibraScope 5 лет назад

Only technically ;)

@JoeyCool414 Год назад

i did this with the vanilla kh 1&2 because at the time i didn’t know i could upgrade sora so i struggled with no combos and it took me way longer to beat it but yeah i barely used magic except for the healing magic everything else nothing

@zie4570 2 года назад

I’ve yet to see anyone say this, and I have no idea if it would change anything major, but you can level valor by rc’s. I know one the most prominent cases is actually the MCP fight

@LibraScope 2 года назад

Yeah, it's been mentioned several times. I think the MCP thing was found after I made this video. And honestly, I don't think it would've changed too much, since High Jump wasn't really necessary :)

@nicholaskane69 3 года назад

If I recall correctly, Reaction Command hits DO count for Valor Form experience. Rockshatter's a good candidate.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Oooooh, that's actually an interesting loophole if true. Very interesting!

@samuelcalegnan1674 3 года назад

It does work ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S_GIPLsax5o.html

@Flutterdark_ 3 года назад

@@LibraScope it is true. rando racers use it sometimes when fighting mcp, as every damage tick is a hit technically. so its good valor grinding

@jexusdomel5194 3 года назад

I have tested a bit and it depends. If you do a direct hit with the keyblade it counts, like soldiers cyclone , however it wont count if the hit is from the enemy, bat cry or lance tug dont add any exp for valor. Theres a good amount of reaction commands that I have no idea what would do tbh, maybe ill try with more peculiar cases like the air pirate ones (maybe there more weird ones like mcp who knows)

@LibraScope 3 года назад

@@jexusdomel5194 That would actually be a good way to test exactly what actions count as keyblade attacks in general, actually. It would allow the rules for this run to be fine tuned for anyone who also wants to exclude things like Reaction Commands, using definitive proof instead of just eyeballing it, lol.

@calebhherra2553 3 года назад

As someone who use almost only the keyblade to attack this is a truly interesting idea to beat the game

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it :)

@aarontheruler 11 месяцев назад

The “mash x to win” thing is for people who don’t play critical

@TheName983 3 года назад

My first playthrough of KH2 was my first KH game. I played the entire series during the summer of 2020, but back somewhere around 2010 or 2011 when I was 7 or 8 I didn't know abilities even existed. I beat the entire game without even having scan and finally used abilities when my cousin helped me fight Sephiroth. Note I was on standard, but I did it all with the same 3 hit combo. I honestly don't know how that didn't put me off

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Ahh really, that's pretty interesting, lol. I was a teenager when I first played KH, back when KH1 was the only game released. And it was a new enough take on the action RPG that I remember being a bit overwhelmed. So I can imagine being in a similar situation to you, had I been your age and trying KH2 on top of that. It's a much more complex game after all :)

@TheName983 3 года назад

@@LibraScope oh I spent like, 3 days on trying to beat Xigbar, but has a kid with nothing else to do I kept at it.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

@@TheName983 I remember getting stuck for a while on Xaldin in Beast's Castle my first time through. It was the first time the game was really like "Okay, you can't just mash buttons anymore.", lol.

@MeteorFalcon 2 года назад

Since I didnt see it in the rules, I wanted to point out that you don't need to complete every single world to beat the game. Olympus 2 for example doesn't need to be completed and same with Pride Lands in it's entirety. Might make the challenge easier. Oh also a interesting tip, if you want to level Valor for this challenge if you really need high jump later on use the Reaction command on the MPC. It actually counts towards Valor Form EXP.

@LibraScope 2 года назад

Yeah, I just figured it kind of went against the spirit of the challenge for me personally, to avoid worlds that focused on combat. So I personally chose to do them :)

@MeteorFalcon 2 года назад

@@LibraScope Cool, cool

@warlock4556 2 года назад

So underrated

@dapperdab4530 Год назад

I haven't played kingdom hearts I don't want to play kingdom hearts but it's probably my favorite seris to watch challenges of

@gammalolman580 3 года назад

So, this video blew up only recently and maybe you will know some of this already, but I'll say it anyways: First off, using a drive form recovers your hp and mp, meaning that using Valor form just for that could have been useful. Second... Valor form does not care if you attack with your keyblade for leveling, but only if you damage the enemy due to your attack. Reaction commands are legally your attacks, so you can use reaction commands to freely level up Valor form

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Yeah, I already knew about the Drive Forms healing you and filling your MP. I just wasn't sure if I'd need them or not later on, and I didn't really want to end up running up against Anti-Form. And people have mentioned using Reaction Commands to level Valor. In particular they've said the fight against the MCP is a good place to level it quickly :)

@gammalolman580 3 года назад

@@LibraScope good to know

@PopcornBunni 3 года назад

I've never heard anyone argue KH2 is mash X. That's the first game. The second game you mash Triangle and auto win 90% of engagements. The other 10% is spam magic since you have infinite mana.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

That's not how it was back in the day. It has changed in the last few years, as people for some reason started getting super hostile toward Reaction Commands. But back in the day a lot of people, including most review outlets, complained that you just mashed combos the entire time. They would also occasionally mention RCs, because they're not timing based, which was distinctly different from standard QTE's at the time. But for the most part the complaint was combos, because most players didn't really use any of their other options :)

@viste_ 3 года назад

26:32 that bomb got slapped by a keyblade swing from Sora, run still possible but invalidated edit: upon review, run still valid, that slash is part of the Dodge Roll reaction command

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Whew, glad I didn't have to explain that one again, lol :D

@heinoo9983 2 года назад

Okay, I gotta ask: What does DM mean? I can interpret it as a boss's ultimate-invincibility attack, but I can't make up the abbreviation.

@LibraScope 2 года назад

Sorry, lol. I can't recall if DM is the name the community gave to boss ultimate attacks, or if it's official. But it stands for Desperation Move :)

@touhouguyII 3 года назад

This is the best game I've ever played

@seasaltsky 3 года назад

Hey, what happened to Skywardwing's channel? The link in the description isn't working, and I can't find him in the search bar.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Someone else brought that up as well, and if I recall, we couldn't figure it out. I don't follow him on any other social media, so I'm not sure what happened.

@ziongamer6905 3 года назад

He removed his videos to focus on his own cartoon series!

@ziongamer6905 3 года назад

@@LibraScope ru-vid.com Here’s the channel

@lucaskincanyon7393 3 года назад

He changed his name to skywardsan.

@Iceboltdoom 3 года назад

holy shit someone found a use for hidden dragon

@---ec2ph 3 года назад

So I'm only at the thresholder fight right now, but I've noticed you tend to just sit in mp recharge when you reach it. Entering and immediately leaving valor form would refill your health and magic, and allow you to stay in the fight a little more.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Yeah, it was mostly because I wasn't sure how much I might need Drive Forms later, so I didn't want to just frivolously add Anti-Points and end up in a tough situation later, with Anti-Form constantly ruining attempts. Ended up not being a problem, obviously. Also, not long after that, I felt like Drive was better spent on Summons anyway :)

@---ec2ph 3 года назад

Good to know the thought process. I genuinely didn't think I'd end up hearing a response to that comment.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

@@---ec2ph It was a good question. You're not the only one who has asked it, lol. Don't wanna just leave people hanging :) Appreciate that you watched the video!

@StaraviaXIII 3 года назад

Thunder and reflect: "you called?"

@Awecyan32 3 года назад

I’m pretty sure you can actually level valor form if you use the skateboard to hit heartless. I’m pretty sure it counts the hits with the skateboard.

@LibraScope 3 года назад

Hmm, really? If so, that would be incredibly interesting!

@nikofaershee4235 5 месяцев назад

As children we used to spam X Now we spam Reflect 😂 it's totally broken and so satisfying

@dustinj918 2 года назад

I find it funny you suggest using Hidden Dragon, since I'm doing my own challenge where I'm only allowed to use Hidden Dragon for the whole game. What I mean by that is that, once I have the option, I equip Hidden Dragon to the main Keyblade slot, and never switch it out. There are two exceptions: I can equip Keyblades to the other forms, and after the Roxas fight, I'm going to equip Two Become One, so I can use its effect to get Final Form. Other then that, it's Hidden Dragon all the way.

@LibraScope 2 года назад

It's definitely not near as bad of a keyblade as everyone makes it out to be. And in particular - because KH2 tries to better level out its keyblades so they generally all stay relatively useful (particularly due to the damage scaling system) - it's more than viable in a normal run as your go-to weapon of choice.

@dustinj918 2 года назад

@@LibraScope Thanks for replying! And yeah, while it might not be the strongest Keyblade, MP Rage and its great design help it greatly.