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Can You Beat Persona 5 Royal Using Only Gun Damage? (Attempt 1: The Prequel) 

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Watch the second attempt of this challenge here: • Can You Beat Persona 5...
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We're going back to the SMT franchise with the next challenge run as we try to beat Persona 5 Royal using Guns Only.
Unfortunately didn't went as well as I was hoping for but just find out for yourself :)
I hope you get to enjoy the run as much as I did!
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@BluShiGuy
@BluShiGuy Год назад
He wields a GUN Also fun fact: if you manage to get a third persona before saving ann you wont have to get rid of Arsene
@FFloof
@FFloof Год назад
they changed this in royal sadly ;-; they make you use Arsene for the first fusion
@exostudios8563
@exostudios8563 Год назад
@@FFloof No they don't. If you go to the room with three shadows, then back track to the room you get pixie without opening the door towards the next safe room, it will respawn the shadows. You can get Bicorn, Jack-O-Latern, and Mandrake before Ann's Awakening. Fusing Jack-O-Latern and Pixie will is a possible fusion of Incubus at Level 5.
@arashimyboi
@arashimyboi 10 месяцев назад
@@FFloofNope, when going back to Kamoshidas palace right before getting Ann’s awakening, you can run into multiple shadows and getting them to where they are both knocked allows for you to obtain them. Then, you can fuse pixie with that one instead of Arsene
@Elukito1
@Elukito1 4 месяца назад
⁠@@FFloofno. you can get a bicorn during the swapping persona introduction from arsene to pixie then knock down both bicorn. if said correctly, you can get bicorn. it is also possible to get mandrake and jack-o-lantern but mandrake is almost impossible since you don't have fire skills at the point you are in the game. jack o lantern is weak to wind, so you can use morgana to hit garu on him, then say the correct dialogue and recruit him.
@Soloesecutore
@Soloesecutore Год назад
Enemy: asleep Me: *uses ability Enemy: *blocks Also me: what the heck
@NitsuaGamer
@NitsuaGamer 2 года назад
Well done buddy! I'm not gonna lie I've kind of thought of doing a gun only run similar to this myself. But then decided to torture myself with the doing nothing run. Honestly I was not expecting the nullifications so soon and thought this might have been possible, especially with Shinya's max rank perk later in the game.
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming 2 года назад
Thanks, I thought the showtime workaround gave me enough options to get through with it but the game one upped me and said nope. Was worth a try at least!
@NitsuaGamer
@NitsuaGamer 2 года назад
Although looking at the wiki, Kaneshiro apparently can use zionga. I don't know if he actually does because from what I remember, he only uses lullaby, almighty, and snap. But if he uses electric, you could theoretically repel his electric when (or even if) this happens. Unless the wiki is wrong.
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming 2 года назад
Kaneshiro uses Zionga if one of the bodyguards inflicts Forget with this attack, although that rarely ever happens. Also once you push him past a certain HP threshold he will start spamming Make it Rain until he is out of money at which point the bodyguards will automatically disappear anyways so I am not sure that Electricity Repel cheese would even be possible. Not even talking about how I did ban repel cheesing in the rules to begin with :D
@CodyHeldreth
@CodyHeldreth Год назад
I actually did this same challenge a few months ago and I have a possible loophole to keep in mind: If we're allowing the use of gun focused showtime attacks than wouldn't it be reasonable to use items that are technically "guns"? Say for instance the Stun Gun: Yeah, it doesn't do gun damage, but it is by definition classified as a "gun" along with the Air Cannon, if one were to say revise the name of the challenge to "Guns" (the quotations being used in the title), then the Stun Gun and Air Cannon would technically fall within those parameters. You can craft these two items as early as the first palace I think after securing the infiltration route which gives you time to craft them before mandatory fights against gun immune enemies. Materials can be gathered from certain enemies in mementos as well as bought in limited amounts per week as certain shops. So yeah, with the current rules it's mot doable. But if you allow the use of items with "gun" in the name, since you're allowing showtime attacks that do almighty damage so long as the attack comes from a "gun" it should be valid right? Also, heads up if you do retry the challenge with this in mind: Shinya's final ability only affects Joker, and only for his actual gun, meaning that gun attacks from your persona will still be blocked by gun immune enemies, and it'll be useless later in the game anyway since bosses have so much health that even with buffs/debuffs your gun wouldn't do enough damage before running out of ammo. Finally, I recommend completing Caroline and Justine's confidant since the last persona you need to create can be turned into an item which, when equipped to one of your allies, gives them a gun attack on their persona. I usually achieve this near the end of the 4th palace, allowing at least two other allies to use gun attacks with me (I only recommend making two since Haru joins the party next palace), combine that with buffs and debuffs for everyone just destroys cognitive Wakaba faster than the game can register (It also helps she's the only boss with a weakness to guns.) Give Ryuji and Yusuke these items and their high strength stat will be applied for the gun attacks, the 4th party member can focus on healing/buffing. I did this challenge on Normal, but if you allow the use of the craft able stun guns/air cannons as well as the items you can get from Seth in the Velvet Room, you'd have a much more doable challenge (If you follow this, I recommend making as many stun guns as possible since they're easier to make, increase your proficiency, and can actually stun enemies when used.)
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Год назад
Technically you're right, if we're allowing gun based showtimes I don't see any reason not to use "gun" items. Never even really thought about that because initially I assumed showtimes can be triggered regularly during boss fights as well. The other stuff you said I actually had in mind too but since I never even got that far, its not really mentioned in the video either. I might come back to this in the future and give it another shot!
@novagears3604
@novagears3604 Год назад
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming are you still thinking about getting back into this? I think it would be really interesting if these rules were added, I did this run with some things for convenience (being allowed ailment items and skills) and it wasn’t too hard, especially in endgame- however it’s still fun and I would love to see your take on it. (My last persona was a very, very buff trumpeter [my favorite persona] with Riot gun, debilitate, gun boost and amp, Enduring soul, Apt pupil, invigorate 3, and Firm stance- I really couldn’t die. And along with this I made a shiki-ouji that had null fire, null ice, null wind, null electric, null psychic, drain nuclear, charge, and heat riser, both of their stats are maxed out because of gallows- so I realistically couldn’t die. It was fun for me trying to get around roadblocks (rangda) and overall very cool run.
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Год назад
@@novagears3604 it is on my list as the next run pretty much, once i am done uploading my new video i will tackle this once again - hopefully this time with a better result! :D
@dragonarchive7443
@dragonarchive7443 Год назад
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming Good luck! This is one of my favorite challenge runs I've seen, so I'm rooting for a success
@DarkFrozenDepths
@DarkFrozenDepths Год назад
For his neutral special, he wields a GUN
@JackBenci
@JackBenci Год назад
I may have one suggestion if you ever get back to this. Showtime chance to occur is heavily influenced by Jokers HP. If you can get Endure to trigger, showtimes should immediately come up. That would be one way to confirm for certain if they aren't possible in that boss. At any rate, a fantastic attempt!
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Год назад
Endure is an interesting idea, i did get their HP lowered to single digits sometimes but maybe this helps. I am going to do this attempt again as my next run once I finish editing my current video with also allowing "gun" items so thats definitely another good option to have in mind!
@ConnortheGonnor
@ConnortheGonnor 2 года назад
2:35 you can grind at the first safe room by saving and reloding to respawn the shadows. Edit: It still isn't possible for a long time of grinding. Also I dont know if gun is affected by your strength stat. But Arsen learns dream needle which makes it possible to beat eliegor.
@RPGchallengeruns
@RPGchallengeruns Год назад
I got stuck in the exact same place when I tried this same challenge run on Merciless difficulty. I THINK it might be possible to repeatedly reflect Ziongas back at him, but the odds of him using that skill are SUPER low. You could be sat for an entire DAY waiting for him to use the move enough times.
@kcmtmm5326
@kcmtmm5326 2 года назад
i was thinking about doing this challenge in my own time but i might just save myself the trouble and watch this video, might even subscribe
@masterblaster38
@masterblaster38 Год назад
Yeah showtimes trigger strangely... At least by what the wiki says, It can trigger when: A party member obtains a Baton Pass, loses 50% of their health or lower, faints recovers from a status ailment, Down, or being knocked out, the protagonist is dying or Downed An enemy is Downed or critically injured and rarely, an enemy is afflicted with a status, a defense debuff, or a party member has an attack buff. It is strange that actually no one said anything about this checks working or not in boss battles. However this was actually fun to watch.
@ClickPointXX
@ClickPointXX 2 года назад
Im not sure if you tried this but if you did you didn’t mention it in the video so I’ll mention it anyway. Another way to trigger a showtime is if joker gets to really low health, it triggers as like a last resort type thing. I’m not 100% sure it works on boss fights but considering that’s where Joker’s hp is most likely to get the lowest I’d like to think it does.
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming 2 года назад
I did not specifically mention Joker but I did try it with all party members (Joker included) and unfortunately the result was still the same. Unless I did something terribly wrong it seems like the only working trigger on boss fights is indeed the finishing blow once the boss gets into low HP range.
@Userdoesnotexist.0138
@Userdoesnotexist.0138 Год назад
Aww man I wanted to see how okumuras palace would be💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@Funloverparty
@Funloverparty Год назад
I just started playing recently so I knew this wasn't going to start well XD
@alyssarasmussen1723
@alyssarasmussen1723 2 года назад
persona 5 royal but its 'murica
@hcorvnov6732
@hcorvnov6732 2 года назад
becomes the Strange journey Protag and uses only gun
@hannahw7023
@hannahw7023 5 месяцев назад
2:10 Colt Magnum sounds like the name of a stereotypical american character in an anime
@kratosgow09
@kratosgow09 Год назад
Imagine you can hold a confidant at gun point to force them to rank up😂
@laundrybaskets4473
@laundrybaskets4473 Год назад
I think that’s called Stockholm Sydrome I’ll be honest
@joaogomes9405
@joaogomes9405 Год назад
Fun fact, you don't need to reload your save file to respawn enemies in palaces. Simply go to the safe room, fast travel to the entrance of the palace and back to the safe room.
@sleepy_Kirby
@sleepy_Kirby Год назад
More Persona 5 (Royal) Content please!
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Год назад
Working on it atm :)
@alduintheanti-dragonborn
@alduintheanti-dragonborn Год назад
I own a musket for home defense.
@alloyark3971
@alloyark3971 Год назад
alternative title: persona 5 royal america challenge
@Flutterdark_
@Flutterdark_ Год назад
i see the title and i already am excited for the moment he gets haru (still watching the vid)
@novagears3604
@novagears3604 Год назад
I.. I’m sorry young one…
@Flutterdark_
@Flutterdark_ Год назад
@@novagears3604 tbh, wasnt aware that kaneshiro blocks gun. when i wrote the comment.
@mxwoods3
@mxwoods3 Год назад
There are 2 things you could've done that would've helped continue the challenge, First is broke the DLC rule and continued on even if it's just for this boss and later bosses, I believe they give you a item that triggered showtimes more often. Second is equip a persona that has weakness to the guards abilities or the bosses. It's risky because if they do enough it could kill Joker, BUT almost every time in my playthrough whenever Joker was downed it almost always triggered a Showtime.
@Peeg_768
@Peeg_768 Год назад
You made me wanna rewatch some senza videos
@MrGemHunter
@MrGemHunter Год назад
For his normal he wields a gun!
@Robin0928
@Robin0928 Год назад
"Your math is no match for my GUN, you idiot!" -Joker Persona5
@thescholarsjourney661
@thescholarsjourney661 Год назад
I was really thinking this wouldn't work, since there are enemies that reflect and null guns.
@till5871
@till5871 Год назад
Aka the smt 4 experience
@waterunderthebridge7950
@waterunderthebridge7950 Год назад
Aka the FREEDOM run
@Linkforlife199
@Linkforlife199 Год назад
Since gun-based showtimes are allowed, the only way I can see getting through the fight is to slightly bend the rules to Stun Guns, at least until the showtime triggers, but once the showtime triggers, you can't use the stun guns anymore and the fight must be finished with the showtime. Honestly, allowing the use of stun guns wouldn't be that much of a stretch since the gun based showtimes are allowed (most of which use guns in some way). The use of stun guns are only permitted in fights like Kaneshiro, the triple Rangdas and Shido phase 1 while still providing the challenge sought after for the rest of the playthrough.
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Год назад
Somebody actually left a very similar comment a while back. I never really looked into items much since I initially assumed that I can cover everything with showtimes but yeah - technically "gun" type items would be allowed too. I will probably do another attempt at this challenge with those added rules in the future!
@Linkforlife199
@Linkforlife199 Год назад
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming To keep to the spirit of the challenge, I would like add that Stun Guns can only be used until showtimes can trigger, then they are banned, like I mentioned previously.
@wilkinscoffee4228
@wilkinscoffee4228 Год назад
Persona 5: America edition
@kokutoryuu8312
@kokutoryuu8312 11 месяцев назад
"Guns only. Great idea, I thought. So let's give this a shot." Pun intended?
@joshuabergman3292
@joshuabergman3292 Год назад
Hey, Shido can be defeated by gun attacks if you rank up the Tower social link, as it gives you Gun Pierce
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Год назад
As far as I know the Gun Pierce only works on your actual equipped gun though and not on the persona skills. So you'd need to get through phase 1 Shido with just one set of ammo on Joker which is rather unlikely. I might give this one another shot in the future and also include "gun" based items (like the Stun Gun) to get around things like that.
@steam-powereddolphin5449
@steam-powereddolphin5449 Год назад
​@@RagnarAlvarrGaming Here's what I think might make this possible: -Any Strength-dominant Persona with Gun Boost and Amp stacked, -The most powerful gun you can acquire, -Expert Customization for the Mega Power Receiver, -Obviously, Oda Special for the Gun Pierce effect, -Maximize buffs and debuffs: Tarukaja, Rakunda, possbibly Sukukaja and Sukunda to reduce missing. Possibly Charge to further boost the first shot in the barrage, if that matters. I believe the total damage needs to exceed ~3,333 in order to get past the first phase in one clip. Before that, though, the Rangda trio in the casino present another barrier that can only be bypassed via Oda Special; I do have a question, though: is it more likely to be beatable if you shoot each one using a Freeze gun with Freeze Boost (plus Laced Bullets, packaged with Oda Special), allowing an all-target Phys/Gun attack to finish them all next turn? Or is it easier to take them out by maximizing your gun's power using the steps necessary for Shido?
@zhoubiden6003
@zhoubiden6003 2 года назад
Ayy I just thought of this
@heiseiren7660
@heiseiren7660 Год назад
Persona 5 but Joker really enjoyed his time in America
@catfrombowsersfury1654
@catfrombowsersfury1654 Год назад
Alternative title Can you beat the game as akechi
@highground4572
@highground4572 Год назад
You can if you name the protag Akechi
@orangemoon286
@orangemoon286 Год назад
Oh geez I wonder which confidant he will max out?
@NotTomorrow1
@NotTomorrow1 2 года назад
noah's arch
@aryamansingh9210
@aryamansingh9210 Год назад
I was actually thinking of doing this myself when I saw this, saying you can get past Kaneshiro with freeze, shouldn't you be able to get Shinya 10 for Shido? One problem I can see though is Okumura's fight since you have to essentially kill everything in one turn by yourself and the only way, I can think of is over leveling, which I want to avoid.
@flippythebear1349
@flippythebear1349 Год назад
Haru also has cool gun skills
@aryamansingh9210
@aryamansingh9210 Год назад
@@flippythebear1349 For sure she would deffs help heaps but I'm not sure it'll be enough
@jussie6334
@jussie6334 10 месяцев назад
So um i say that some larty memebers were enraged Which means they deal physical damage Is that allowed?
@watchrandomuser395onyoutube
@watchrandomuser395onyoutube 2 года назад
11:55 no you only need to max maruki i donkt know why people think you have to do “kasumi”
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming 2 года назад
I wasn't even talking about her, but the additional scenes you get when maxing Akechi which while technically not required to get the new content, kinda belong to the Royal Ending as well imo
@watchrandomuser395onyoutube
@watchrandomuser395onyoutube 2 года назад
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming oh ok
@gamingwithbam
@gamingwithbam Год назад
What’s next persona 2 innocent sin but you can’t use combination spells
@lewislineberger224
@lewislineberger224 Год назад
For his neutral special…
@mageboi594
@mageboi594 Год назад
Gun
@booker-thehooker6621
@booker-thehooker6621 Год назад
Do a guard only run
@kirbyfreakyt4695
@kirbyfreakyt4695 Год назад
Tfw Seth
@RosyMiranto
@RosyMiranto 2 года назад
This Run in a Nutshell. For the Normal Attack, he uses a Gun... For Special Attack, he uses a Gun... Etc. Etc. But seriously, if the challenge said "Gun Damage" and not "Guns Only"... Does that mean... Gun Skills such as Snap and Triple Down are allowed?
@lorenzoantonelli6467
@lorenzoantonelli6467 Год назад
Persona 5 but America.
@isaacsealey5277
@isaacsealey5277 Год назад
belphegor was nowhere near half
@OrionEJ
@OrionEJ Год назад
here's my guess before even watching the video. Short answer, no, long answer, no.
@zenith4919
@zenith4919 Год назад
what about the fact that when kaneshiro's hired help die, he spends all of his money, and i believe he goes into piggytron and instantly dies? i may be wrong, but thats what I remember
@RagnarAlvarrGaming
@RagnarAlvarrGaming Год назад
I think what you're referring to is the end of the fight where he goes back into piggytron and blows up but that's only after you already defeated thim. In Royal the fight is split into 2 seperate parts with Piggytron being part 1 and the guards being part 2 so Piggytron doesn't even have any involvement after phase 1 anymore.
@zenith4919
@zenith4919 Год назад
@@RagnarAlvarrGaming I figured you had probably done your homework, but i just wanted to mention it just in case you had missed something. Also, incredible that you reply to comments on 5 month old videos
@sgraham2818
@sgraham2818 2 месяца назад
am i being stupid or i thought you got showtime in the first palace
@PremonitionGamingVid
@PremonitionGamingVid Год назад
No, because enemies have nul/reflect gun damage.
@schoudh
@schoudh 5 месяцев назад
Damn, 2 min in and the answer is no :c
@zachtwilightwindwaker596
@zachtwilightwindwaker596 Год назад
Wait why did the run end again?
@kusaba7770
@kusaba7770 Год назад
Kaneshiro is immune to guns and he couldn’t trigger a showtime so he couldn’t deal damage to kaneshiro
@EddiePReacts
@EddiePReacts 10 месяцев назад
No. Theres a boss in the game thats immune to gun damage.
@AidenAlias
@AidenAlias Год назад
Do this in base 5 where ammo is limited lol
@Regigigas_YT
@Regigigas_YT Год назад
what do you mean by that?! In base Persona 5 your bullets don't reload after the fight?????
@velvetbutterfly
@velvetbutterfly 2 месяца назад
You could just craft endless ammo
@velvetbutterfly
@velvetbutterfly 2 месяца назад
@@Regigigas_YTin base 5 ammo doesn't reload unless you leave the palace. Each character has 2 clips generally. Depending on which guns they use characters like Skull or Panther could get more. Noir for dome reason had like 6 Doing The Tower social link would unlock a skill that gives you more ammo. You could also craft spare ammo as part of the infiltration tools
@riraththelord7030
@riraththelord7030 Год назад
USA route
@ItzSkettimas
@ItzSkettimas 7 месяцев назад
cheated the run more than once, so this doesnt count to me, but it was a fun attempt and you did what you could.
@bell3287
@bell3287 Год назад
Ah yes, the American run. God bless the U.S.A
@Apogs38
@Apogs38 Год назад
atlus steal Baxter Stockman skins sceenes,
@Xuhybrid
@Xuhybrid Год назад
If you kill an enemy with an item that disqualifies the challenge. I can't even justify it a little bit... Sorry.
@Aichi1138
@Aichi1138 Год назад
Also known as: Could an American beat Persona 5
@kirbyfreakyt4695
@kirbyfreakyt4695 Год назад
28:01 Ryuji's Bash: Uppercut, slam to the back of the head, Gun Just... make Bash attacks allowed for this one fight, say it's not possible, and continue the run why are you ending the video so quickly
@jhonayo4887
@jhonayo4887 Год назад
Persona 5 has to be one of the worst games to Speedrun or to do challenge runs.
@demored3017
@demored3017 Год назад
figured, and then u have okumura's palace that repels gun dmg
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