Can you Mount a Tank Cannon to an Airplane? - |FLYOUT| 

I love it when you make planes that seem that they would never be made in real life, but also seem the could be brought up in a board meeting.

I love how we skipped 105 and 120 and went straight to 152mm. This isn’t a warthog, this is a rhino

Engineer: "Sometimes you need a little less gun." (The Engineer was found 3 months later in a ditch.)

The props are supersonic. I hope the crew doesn't mind the absurdly loud sound generated... (cough cough Thunderscreech cough cough)

Therapist: Twin engine XP-55 on crack with a howitzer doesn't exist it can't hurt you. Twin engine XP-55 with a howitzer:

This game needs to release in early access already, it's pretty dang polished for this point in development and the hype train is approaching the speed of light.

Next up 406 mm. Another use for this aircraft would be a heavy interceptor with proximity fused ammunition. As well as a bunker buster.

Couple of things: Having the drum Magazine at the center of gravity is incredibly important in a plane like this. Very well done! Ammo is make up a significant amount of weight, so having the drum at center of gravity is the only way to give the pilot any chance of hitting consecutive shots, since there are no fly by wire aim assist shenanigans going given the level of tech. Also, given enough fuel capacity or even mid air refueling (aerial refueling was invented and used even before WW2) this this could be a potent ASW / convoy raid aircraft. Stick a radar on it, give it another seat for a navigator, done... Though the crews will probably hate it given the lack of accomodations for missions that last so long.

that opening skit was incredible, i love it

As the Germans, Italians, Americans, and Japanese would say, YES, yes you can :)

could you imagine the force on the plane as the massive autoloader quickly spins after every shot fired? the weight distribution as the plane becomes off balance as the autoloader is slowly drained of ammo?

Seems like this could have been a candidate for a lifting body to accomodate the ammo drum.

Honestly, that giant drum magazine in the center of the plane looks ridiculous but is also awesome. It give the plane a very interesting and unique silhouette.

It is similar to the P.108 Series 2 with a 102mm cannon installed on it

This is gloriously insane, like someone saw either the Mosquito Tsetse Fly or the B-25g/H and went 'needs more gun'. :D

8:18 are we just gonna forget about that massive tail strike?

A 152 would be quite large as a destroyers main gun, it has been done historically in a few cases but you'd find it more often on light cruisers

If the gun was more in line with the center of mass and thrust you will have less trouble with recoil and possible offset the cockpit to compensate for the change in the air frame.

also, the biggest gun mounted on a WW2 plane is a 102mm anti ship cannon mounted in a Italian heavy bomber, without bombs and it had a analog computer and a ballistic gun sight so it could actually get close to hitting something you were aiming at, and it had an auto loader.

That is one sexy aircraft! I was totally thinking 'Moonbat' as you were building it and I'm glad to see it wasn't lost on you, either. As for the concept of aircraft attacking and sinking ships using a large calibre gun... I seem to remember hearing or reading somewhere about a B-25 (either a G or a H, I can't remember which) sinking a Japanese destroyer with 5 rounds of 75mm. I don't know how much truth there is to that, but I'm sure I heard it somewhere. Oh, and the thing with the Sheriden's recoil - I think the thing was that the gunner had to quickly move his hand away from the breach when the gun was fired, or otherwise run the risk of a broken wrist.

Reminds me of the sub hunter version of the Mosquito. 57mm autocannon. Very effective, when the auto part worked. sometimes jammed when too high a G force was pulled.

Funfact: In WW2 they actually mounted 75mm howitzers to naval raiding aircraft like B-25s and B-24s. However, the squadrons operating these planes noticed that for commerce raiding, what they needed was *suppressing fire*. The attack method for these planes was usually a technique called "skip bombing", where you drop a bomb so that it skips across the surface of the water like a rock. In order to do this, you have to fly parallel to the water's surface for a pretty substantial distance, meanwhile every gun on the ship your targeting is firing at you. The 75 was decent enough but most crews could only fire it 3-4 times on an attack run, so a couple of squadrons replaced these cannons with a whole bunch of .50 caliber machine guns.

I would 100% call this something like the Manta ray or something

you could make it way smaller if you make the propellant load way smaller, since a lot of the speed is coming from the plane already

This is, and was, pretty common to see planes with 57mm to 75mm during ww2, but afterwards, the U.S had been mounting 105mm M40 Recoilless Rifles on the A-4 Skyhawk. But seeing a 152mm on a plane is just outright terrifying. Keep up the good work Messier!

I'd love to see something like the Blackburn B.20... a retracting hull flying boat

The P-63 Kingcobra had a 37mm cannon which was the same caliber as the ones they had on the Stuart light tanks, so yes, you can put a tank cannon on an aircraft

Heyo, I'm the fella who made both the muzzle brakes mods, thanks for featuring it in the vid! If you want me to spin up a 152mm one for you I'd be down. TBH it is a rather obvious thing I missed

You should do a big wing fighter like the ho 229, maybe you could do a prop punk spin to it?

Hello. One of my all time favorite Flight Combat video games is Crimson Skies. And I've always wondered, can some on the aircraft in that game actual fly? I was wondering if you could recreate some of the aircraft from that game in Fly Out and test to see if they would actually work.

To compensate for the recoil I think it would have been advisable to make the gun point a few degrees downward relative to the fuselage centerline in a way that would have it pass through the CG. Lovely design

"Where did my tank autoloader go?!" 0:03 me with a suspiciously Tank Autoloader shaped stomach: uuuh idk, someone else must've taken it

I love the looks, definitely would be daunting if you were a sailor on a cruiser and saw a flight of these incoming. I imagine if such a gun was mounted there would have to be some type of recoilless system to prevent the aircraft from stalling instantly, or destroying its airframe

actually, something like this was made during ww2 from the us. the XA-38 had a 75mm cannon and i think 2 or 4 mgs. however, the italians during WW1 came out with the P. 108A serie 2 and it had a absolutely massive 102mm cannon. i think that if this probably had maybe 10 to 15 rounds of ammunition the design you made might be able to fly, but to fly well you’d probably have to have like 3-6 rounds of ammo that would be used sparingly (note i’m not a plane nerd so i’m probably wrong about most things) but overall cool plane! 👍 (i’m talking about with the ammo if this were to actually be made irl)

What if the Hs 129 and KV-2 had a baby 😂

I think aircraft guns are pitched up or down from the centerline of the plane depending on it's role: up for a fighter, down for ground attack. Might help direct the force of the recoil closer to the CG if you pitch it down a few degrees.

Between the armed smuggling plane and this…. M82 has officially gone insane…. 😂. But in all seriousness, this thing is freaking awesome and I love it! Great work as always!

The naval colors on that thing look SICK. Great video!

The design is like a mix between Beech Starship, F7U and XP-67. Very cool.

This is one of your most interesting designs yet. I love these odd concept aircrafts

T-95: where did tank autoloader go? Me with a suspiciously Tank Autoloader shaped stomach: 0:03

WWII German engineers: alright hear me out, what if we got MORE GUN?

5:32 _laugh track plays_ Man I love these videos

There are plenty of ground/surface vessel attack craft with "Tank" Cannons in them... what you are talking about is an Artillery Piece... while they are used on Tank Chasis, they tend not to be tanks but Self Propelled Artillery or Tank Destroyers (which is a weird designation to me because its still just Self Propelled Artillery)...

Wait until we put railguns on planes 💀

This thing looks soooo sick man. Even the camo is really nice and fits perfectly to this masterpiece of plane. Keep up the god like work 💪👍

Fantastic design! It looks like a concept that might have been forward in the late 40's when aviation was sort of in between the prop and jet ages.

Incredible, I wanna see part 2 of that flying wing

Hey messier great video got to see you streaming on the flyout server yesterday

This is really awesome, dude. What is this? Very neat design. I am so, so subscribing.

My idea of a ww2 fighter is a Fuselage of the i-15/i16 (stretched), a engine of the il-2, a tail of the p-36, wings of the p-39, guns and a canopy of the p-51 and the cannons of the spitfire.

I LOVE the design of this thing! It could be a tank destroyer too! Some strike aircraft during WW2 had this exact concept, just a much lower caliber. Notably the German Henschel HS 129 for example

I just love how it looks.

The xa-38 "grizzly" proved this was possible, it had a 75mm, along with the Italian p108a, which had a 102mm, and a few German aircraft that had 75mm guns.

The UK did mount a 25 pounder gun in a Mosquito. The recoil virtually stopped the aircraft, but it was very effective anti-ship and anti-sub system. Apparently the navigator was not thrilled with the effort and contortions required to reload!

Always a good day when M82 uploads

imagine being a soldier then seeing a fucking 152mm he ROUND going for your face

A10; "I can almost stall when firing my gun." Messier; 'Hold my beer."

Other than a handful of German destroyers that mounted 150mm guns, and were considered failures because of those weapons, no destoyers mounted bigger than 140mms and those were rare at that. The vast majority of destroyers in WWII and after mounted 130mm and lower. Post war the biggest caliber seen was 130mm on Soviet destroyers. 152 is a 6inch gun which is light cruiser specific and reserved for those and up.

The 1943 Mosquito FB Mk. XVIII Tsetse had a 57mm 1/4 pound anti tank gun fitted to it. Wikipedia makes it sound like the pilots prefered to use its rockets rather than the gun to take out enemy U-boats. Still a cool idea though. Great video.

You fire the gun, the boat's hull shatters. Plot twist ,the pilot's spine shatters as well.

They mounted a giant cannon to a P-108 bomber during ww2. I don't remember what size but they did it.

Next time you could make a “orbital bombardment” airplane, so just a howitzer on the underbelly of the plane pointing downward. Love your vidz❤

i like how in the take off the back gunner just gets dragged XD 8:17

Germans tried this in WW2 on test bed planes while on the ground. Recoil totally buckled the airframe and they gave up on it.

A few notes: - 152mm is 6", hence why it's so common. - Very few, if any, destroyers carried 152mm cannons. Most destroyers had 4"-5" guns (102mm-127mm), while many light cruisers had 6" guns. - Between the torpedoes and bombs used against armored capital ships, and the machine guns and light cannons used against frigates and unarmoured ships, there were semi-armour piercing rockets, such as the British RP-3 or the American Tiny Tim, which were used quite effectively against lightly armored naval targets such as destroyers and light cruisers. - With the addition of a hydraulic recoil absorption system, the recoil from a short-barreled 152mm cannon such as the one mounted on this plane would be mitigated enough to be unlikely to damage the airframe. - With the aircraft's ability to dive, it could easily fire down through the thinner deck armour of ships, hitting engine rooms or shell magazines, and causing critical damage. - If the cannon were adjusted to aim along a vector with the aircraft's center of mass, the recoil would A. be more evenly spread across the airframe, and B. not cause the airframe to pitch when firing, keeping the gun aligned during attack runs and preventing stalls.

I really like that plane. It's elegant, even though its a bit bloated with the ammunition drum. I think what it could be used for is for hunting U-Boats. As this is around 1945ish, submarines are going to be diesel-electric types that spend most of their time on the surface, only submerging when they need to for avoiding detection. What RAF Coastal Command had to hunt U-Boats during WWII was De Havilland Mosquitoes with a 57mm 6pdr gun. They would find the U-Boat, fire an AP shell through the hull so they can't submerge, and then another aircraft could finish it off with rockets. A 6 inch CPCBC shell with a decent HE filler could probably sink a U-Boat in one hit.

looks like a moonbat shed its tail, grew canards, chomped the tail gunner off a b17, then gulped down a T-72 cartoon style

He took the ¨gun with wings¨ and ran with it

Messier: can we put 152mm howitiser on plane? messier fon Braun: i had such project... AC-130 Gunship engineer: why are you asking?! didn`t seen mine product?

That pun was a crime against humanity, I loved it.

Lol “i guess thats a little bit of recoil” btw i love love ur vids

And I thought the F4 was a flying brick xD great vid dude!

Finally someone answered my question. For years I have been waiting for this.

Like the guns on planes weren’t already big enough.

in ww2, the italians designed and tested an anti-ship aircraft with a 102mm gun and deemed it effective enough to order some but the italian armistice put a stop to that. the only one that was built was destroyed in an allied bombing

I was eating when messier made the drag joke. I stopped chewing and my dog stopped coughing… time literally came to a halt.

This is like the anti-naval version of a PBJ-1 or an Hs 129. Just mount the biggest gun you can fit into a plane and throw it at the ground.

If anyone's interested in the song starting at 8:12 it's Addict from Neffex (instrumental ver.) the one at 14:28 is I just wanna be great also from Neffex (and instrumental ver.)

This looks incredibly sick

Love it! One more great creation. And I do like those real world planes where they just build a plane around a big gun. The A-10 is of course the most well know... But boy, there where some big gunned WWII aircraft too. Not 152mm howitzer size, what I know off. But proper tank calibre guns. With the lagers being over 100 mm I believe. Even the modern AC-130 gunship has variants with 105 mm howitzer. May all be retired now however.

You have to put the canards somehow below the muzzle. That way the recoil should drive you up instead of down.

Just a thought. •Lengthen the nose •Lengthen the cockpit •Twin 30mm installed for pilot to strafe. •Single 152mm installed (rear facing) Gunner in rear of cockpit fires as pilot climbs out of the run. 🤷‍♂️

What a gorgeous plane ❤️

Thanks for you video, I'm now have an idea about 120mm smoothbore gun for MBT mounted on 5th or 6th gen aircraft

AAF camo idea: Clearly, someone's been dipping into the ol' "Arcade game bosses for tanks," idea, and the Army borrowed a couple planes to see if the idea has merit on ground.

Italy actually kind of did this irl, they mounted a 102mm cannon on a P.108, a mid thirties 4 engined heavy bomber. This was also made to hunt ships (but obviously went nowhere)

Love it - absurd but weirdly plausible

This is a cool channel. I'd love to see you make the Wyvern or Strike Wyvern from Ace Combat. That would be sick.

Considering the advent of guided artillery munitions, a flight of what amounts to flying M777's is pretty hilarious.

Now we need a Gustav cannon (or, if you want it to be “practical” a Dora) cannon on a plane 😂

You're so entertaining, I'm instantly subscribed. This game looks awesome, are the physics in it accurate?

All I’m saying is with vt fuses, and a radar gunsight, it’d be very effective against other aircraft

08:16 I love that tailstrike

155mm was used by the Germans and US in WWII, only the Red Army used 152mm. The Henschel Hs129 mounted an autoloading 75mm gun for tank-busting that also had a counter-firing rocket at the back, so the recoil from the gun did not rip the gun out from the housing it was in. I bet you can't top any of that from real life application. Oh, I think with the 50mm cannon that was more standard than the 75mm experimental, in practical use and while diving on the target to close, it did feel like the Hs129 stopped in mid-air when firing.

Very interesting design, you always make cool stuff and I'm excited for the official release. However, it's hard to tell in the video, but I think the props should be rotating the opposite directions, they way they currently rotate both of them are critical engines, meaning if one fails, you see the worst performance loss due to how and where the props move the air. Other than that, great design, I'll definitely try making something similar when I get the chance.

Speaking of the warthog, you should try make a ground attack / close air support aircraft for the next vid

this aircraft looks seriously awesome

Hey! I love your vids. It would be interesting to see you build a WW2 bomber completely covered defensive in machineguns.

Messier upload is always a good day