Can You Trust NileRed? 

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Can we trust Nile Blue?

Phsss its mister now

I'll do you even better: who's NileGreen

That Chemist sort of did that

@@skyethebinow we need NileRed to see whether we can trust That Chemist

@@craigstephenson7676 I think NileRed should see whether we can trust Sir Humphry Davy. Check to make sure that strontium and potassium really exist.

I vote that we have NurdRage moderate all of this!

​@@skyethebihe did it for real today

He is Canadian so it’s kinda expected

He what?

@@itsTyrion He uh... he miscalculated some things on his recent video where he tried to turn paint thinner into cherry soda flavoring and accidentally created a gas that is banned by the Geneva Convention because it was used as a dispersion weapon during WWI.

@@itsTyrion he made mustard gas or something

If you take in to account his heritage it’s even funnier

In all fields of science is done. And is a CRUCIAL step to theory develelopment, as a validation process.

@@Chico_Julio true, it just looks funny from the content creation perspective :p

@@Wielorybkekonly kinda. While in creation you typically want to do what’s popular, and will get you more sales. In chemistry it’s more about what get you results

And then we use clickbait titles

peer review

@@nontrashfire2 ...Stupid...guy! I SAID PLUUUUHHHH!

But nile is a creepy little pee drinker

​@@nontrashfire2shush with your childish nonsense dear. You don't get to pick what other people call you ......

my bad dude, it wont happen again man@@nontrashfire2

@@nontrashfire2 assume deez nuts

12:35 😂

Science and Medicine, one of the few places left in Academia where they throw hands😂

​@@129140163You are a gentleman and a scholar.

That made me laugh because everything else was so subtle or just a bit backhanded😭

came to the comments to check for this before i wrote it myself, not dessapointed to see it as the 5th comment listed.

that was the duumbest waste of money. he's really gone downhill. money made him dumb

@@GigsVT I bet he earned the money back tenfold, so not really waste of money in that sense lol. But yea money makes creators less creative overall I think.

@@error-4518 sure but that's part of the problem. If he can get revenue and patron for doing dumb stuff why would he even bother doing chemistry.

Its like a new mr. beast, he know what the platform wants, not what chem enthusiast appreciate. I wont deny that he started the chemistry movement in youtube, him and fire&explosions, but I no longer what his stupid videos, I mean, where is the use in cola made from gloves? I really miss when he worked in his parents garage, those videos helped me a lot in college lab (specially the caffeine extraction). Its an equipment for each video and it isnt used anymore. I see him releasing a video in after months, I wonder how the patreons feel about that.

Ann Reardon had a look at that, big issues were (1) the chocolate Nile used was 100% cocoa (most commercial dark chocolate is 80% cocoa, 20% sugar); and (2) the flour he used was "hard red spring wheat" - which is quite bitter - but also the flour was packaged in 2013. Using stale bitter flour and no sugar in the chocolate - there was nothing wrong with the recipe itself - the choice of ingredients is what killed it.

I'd trust more people with my life than I would trust to not finish my fries.

@@EvanBoyar but can you trust a person with your life who DOES NOT finish his/her fries?

​@@AquibMohammedAymanyes, because those leftover fries are becoming mine.

His videos are largely for shits and giggles, and entertainment. If he was trying to make legitimate tutorial/educational videos, I trust he'd be more professional.

Especially when half his videos are of him dropping things on the floor

@@izzydo3494 He _does_ love to drop things on* the floor lmao. Who doesn't, though?

@@RoastCDuck Do you mean to say there was no established synthesis fpr Benzaldehyde so he had to create one? In which case no there are multiple and he did not have to create one ... if you are talking about another vid why would this be relevant here?

"I wasn't even trying" To be fair, he deserves to not be appreciated by the chemistry community. To receive disdain from thorough chemists that don't have the attention he has. Nilered is a wonderful magnet to transform normies into amateur chemists. I love him for that reason.

I don’t think Nile trusts himself let’s be real here

@@zandaroos553 True, how many scientist got themselves mamed, irradiated, killed tho... seems to be a risk they all take... i think tho, nobody should try this stuff unless they have the right equipment and know how to use it all, and actually know how to do the math... it's chemistry, not alchemy...

@@zandaroos553 that's why he always drop and smash a lot of things, he's so frustrated by the reaction so he doesnt even trust himself

Preach bro 🤙

De tantos idiomas decidiste hablar factos

Factos, jajaja el espanglish xd

Upvote

right because even if he gave us a step by step i’d probably end up killing myself LOL.. i am not a chemist

explosions and fire and plastic cups

ChemicalForce and the stuff of our collective nightmares .

​@@kaboom4679i was going to say ChemicalForce and way too many unnecessarily long slow motion shots.

Extractions and ire and tar

@@jerrysanchez5453 Explosions and Fire AND Extractions and Ire and Orange Chemistry

It kind of makes you wonder why professional academic chemists don't typically produce video content to go with their synthesis and analysis papers.

if nile has a problem, it's laziness. Not doing things properly because he doesn't feel like it. which is totally fine, but it does harm the educational purity of what he's doing. Sometimes I feel like he's lost his spark to create the content, as taking like 8 months to do a single set of reactions is wild. There are chemtubers that make weekly or at least monthly content doing the exact same thing that nile does. Thought Emporium has the same kind of problem, but i think he's a content creator second and a scientist first. at least as far as i'm aware. Nile happens to be the most entertaining, I feel though, E&F is as well, but he's even lazier than nile is, and he could really really do with some upgraded videography.

Not doing things properly when the guy using safety equipment and procedure rivaling many uni lab and far outstrip many youtube home chemist is a wild claim. As for taking months for project, i do agree it's slow, not sure about it's "lazy" since we don't know how many multiple project he have, what equipment/resource he need and wait, etc... @@ExarchGaming

@@ExarchGaming fwiw, not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with you, but he's mentioned in his videos that his content creation pipeline has lots of things happening in parallel, and he often tries to make a video on something, fails, and scraps it. That's pretty common for any content creator who does stuff that requires lots of effort and/or time to make. With that said, most creators who do this have a period where they release stuff infrequently as their pipeline expands, but eventually they kind of "catch up" and are able to put out content regularly, it'll just be content that has been in the works for several months at a minimum. He's been like this for a while, so I can only guess that there are more reasons to it than simply just not having hit a good stride yet. Could be lack of ideas that are working out, lack of motivation or some other kind of burnout, over-focus on his side channels and tiktok/youtube shorts, or any number of other reasons. Only he and the people he's close to really know

@@ExarchGaming You are making one really big assumption. That his video are educational in the first place. They really are not, they are generally entertainment. Like how most historical sewing videos are also no intruction, but showing a process thats interesting to some, but mostly with the goal of entertaining and showing what you can do.

by how much shit he has to look up and how little he most likely knows about science, i'd say you hit the nail on the head there.

​@@draggy76​ do you think science is just experimenting wildly using your intuition? Just look at a scientific paper mate, we back up each and every sentence with a paper justifying the information in the sentence. You should not trust your memory in science, look shit up and confirm what process is best for each step of a reaction as well as possible reaction paths.

​@@IAOIceland1984yet there are hundreds of unreproducible papers out there

@@draggy76 sorry, do you think scientists actually just hold all information relevant to their field in their heads at all times or something? they're people, not computers.

@@draggy76 Stupid reply to be honest.

12:38 Those little things are what makes these videos so entertaining! 😂

That got me laughing. Same though. I need to know

Chemdelic? 🤔

Prussian Blue. I bet Chemiolis will have a cardiac arrest once he catches a whiff of what this mad lad is cooking.

Heck with that, where's Greeniolis at??

Chemiolis takes down himself in a long, weird, recursive beef that loops until it eventually collapses in on itself and forms a black hole from which no views or likes or comments can escape. Make it happen!

I trust Chemiolis more than the other guys, this dude is good... really good.

Yeah I definitely don't have a high enough understanding of Chem to reproduce any of his tests myself but from the stuff I do know his science is solid he screws around and uses tools he doesn't need to for the fun of things so I trust that he's creating what he says he is to the level I need to which is fun science man who's making things for the hell of it

Safety violations increase engagement via the comment section, which is far more important.

@@abnorc8798 i'm so so so sure you're thinking too far into it

​@@abnorc8798💀

It balances out with NileRed pouring the most dangerous shit without a funnel

Exactly. Well said. We don't watch his channel for science, but to fall asleep 😂

I think that’s implied. This seems more like a challenge to see if the experiment is somewhat reproducible.

Also known as "Detroit mineral water" 😁

That's what always got me about the original video: Making soda using the most carcinogenic and toxic route humanly possible and then drinking it for views.

@@foxyfoxington2651 Confidence in the chemistry.

Exactly. Any imperfections just add unique flavor that you will almost certainly remember for the rest of your life.

​@@justsomeguy5628lol, for however long that ends up being

In my city there is a research institute which is the merge of several smaller labs. When they moved in their new, big and fancy lab, they lost some uranium rocks like ten years ago, nobody knows where those are to this day.

Same in my college too😂. They haven't locked the cabinets and have some starting products to make explosives like trinitrotoluene💀

The reason it's not locked is because it can defend itself.

Maybe for safety reason... If for any reason.. any of that chemical storage exploded.. fall or anything.. it will be easy to evacuate out of the lab.. instead locked in

I was installing a fume hood in a lab and the ancient cabinet next to me had to move over. I opened the door and find a 1kg. Bottle of potassium cyanide smiling at me. Gently closed door, Backed out of room.

I think this exact thing whenever he touches anything that resembles a tool.

he's lazy, that's all. that's why his yields get fubared. it's part of his charm, same with Explosions and Fire.

Have you seen his new lab? He offhandedly has a tube furnace and an NMR that he's used once. It's far from a home lab.

@@ExarchGaming I feel that Nile tries hard to be a real chemist. E&F is a super smart dude and does it for fun, which is where I find the entertainment value.

​@@JaredBrewerAerospaceE&F is also technically a physicist, which makes his chemistry shitposting in a shed even funnier

He makes very entertaining videos.

You might like ChemicalForce (lots of glowing, sparks, etc. & nice shots) and StyroPyro (more into lasers & engineering but is a chemist proper, and lots of glow!)

@@mookinbabysealfurmittens He makes the best. That video nearly a year or so ago that looked like a mini nuke was the bees knees.

@@MasterBlaster3545 I like Styropyro's little squirrel pal. And his newest full video (not short) is pretty impressive. There's more than one mushroom cloud!

im a tar chemistry man myself

Im loving it honestly, never did i think i would see someone peer review nile red and its been 2 times now! Both incredibly done and educational as well :)

D-i-stilling! Not destilling!

@@MichaelLapore-lk9jz fixed!

I like how he acts like Nile doesn't also constantly mention his method was inefficient. Like I swear one of his most said phrases in his videos is "there is probably a way better way to do this but here's what I did"

Methyl anthranilate!

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12:35

As I (another non-chemist) understand it, we have a pretty good idea of what's going on inside a given chemical reaction, provided we know all the materials involved. Most of early chemistry revolved around A lot of chemistry projects are 80% figuring out what is going to happen on paper long before you start adding chemicals in beakers. If you're interested, the Crash Course channel on RU-vid has a series on chemistry that has helped me get a better understanding of what's actually happening inside those flasks and also briefly covers the big discoveries that led to our current understanding of chemistry.

ZERO. you have zero understanding of what is going on. What you learn is not what, how, or why BUT *when*. 99% of so called scientists completely fail at having a clue what they are doing and it makes them dangerous. Like a kid that has a gun and thinks he's a gun expert or a government that has nukes and thinks they are gods gift to humanity. All science is is models of reality(*MODELS*). Science works by making those models approximate reality until they no longer work to achieve new results(which is why science is stagnating now). Statistics/repeatability is what makes things work and provides the answers for the *when*. E.g., *When* I do X and Y and then Z I get Q. All science is is statistics applied to logic for approximate the cause and effects of temporal coherency. It works quite well because the universe is relatively stable currently.

As with most science, it was all trial and error in the early days, when enough is discovered by trial and error for patterns to emerge, the picture gains more and more resolution, which gives us more data to make more accurate predictions. Now we have some pretty decent software to model reactions based on previously gathered data, which is more or less accurate. We can pick and choose chemical building blocks with various functional groups and how they behave (how to assemble and disassemble them), these narrow down the possible reactions to the point where organic synthesis is almost akin to Lego, only putting the blocks together isn't quite as simple. When it gets to the actual practical application, reactions are mostly predictable now, so we return to the trial and error to fine tune the synthesis. Tweaking variables one at a time until we get consistent, repeatable results. Chemistry involves a *lot* of repetition. Chemistry involves a *lot* of repetition. Chemistry involves a *lot* of repetition. 😁

very helpful thank you both!

@@fmdj both doesn't include me since there are 3 replies in the last hour. I'm likely shadow banned, can you verify?

Was looking for this because the same happened to me. Can't wait for the 4th in the series, since is turtles all the way down.

New Chemiolis bio just dropped.

Chemiolis: "Hold my beaker, this is how it's done correctly!" haha

the shade is so funny but also as an amature its ueful to see the reasoning behind things and all the little details that matter.

Well to be fair you have to do the mistakes first to improve on them so kudos to both :) science is about refining and progression

@@damngood8476 Yup I agree Nile's videos are great

That’s fair to assume but it would be great if he added a disclaimer about that somewhere

can't wait for the diss tracks

You have a promising tiktok career

Maybe he was concerned about sulfur-containing stuff contaminating his product

​@@tomflanagan878yeah, but Cr traces are very beneficial for health 😅

Some people just don’t want everything they own to smell like rank farts for months.

Maybe TEMPO oxydation is better

Nobody cares what Nile red thinks. He sucks

Next NileRed video: turning Chemiolis into strawberry milkshake