Canon provided us with the incorrect pricing for the battery grips ahead of launch. The correct prices are below: BG-R20: $349 BG-R20EP: $499 CF-R20EP (the one with the fan): $399
Do you think there is a realistic chance that Canon will give us a firmware update enabling 8K oversampled 4K 60p? We had oversampled 4K60p years ago in the R5C and the competition has it but it is NOT in the new R5 Mark II? What a shame....I'm really disappointed in Canon to artificially cripple the R5 II in such a way. Hopefully, a firmware update will fix that!
Yeah you can buy a Nikon Z8 and their amazing 24-120mm f/4 S lens for $4399 right now. An arguably better camera and absolutely the better deal as the Nikon Z-mount 24-120mm is an amazing lens.
@@patricksmith2553 I was tempted by the Nikon Z system but when I held the Z6 and Z7 they felt a bit too like my Sony A7R III which ergonomically dug into my hand a bit, the Z8 looks great but I haven't held one. I'm not changing from Canon R5 anytime soon but I have a soft spot for Nikon because I loved the D750 and D810 If I was buying new I think the Z8 and 24-120 for that price would be an easy decision over a body only R5 II
Wow, there seems to be a lot of hating on these cameras. I'm a Nikon Z shooter so I'm only looking out of interest, but they seem pretty great to me. Maybe I'm just dumb, but both of the latest releases here would get me literally all of the photos I would ever attempt to get. If what people are hating is that the numbers on the specs are not bigger than they would like I think that is silly. These cameras will be so much more than what most photographers need. What is more important is do you love using them. Do they feel good in your hand. Are you excited to get out there and shoot with them. It's a real shame if specification statistics are making you not want to pick up your camera.
@@torngrasp this is a silly argument, specs are just a numerical representation of what the camera can do in comparison to one another. These cameras cost a lot of money. I’m sure if Canon listed the R5mii for $500 everyone would say it’s clearly the best camera at that price point. So it’s not the specs that people are upset with it’s the fact that this “capable” camera is more than other equivalently capable cameras.
Perfect! Making the full disclosure VERY clear at the beginning of the video for any newbies who don't yet know your professionalism. We know you are required by law to disclose this, but not everyone makes it THAT clear.
I was waiting for this and ended up getting the panasonic S5 IIx instead even though I do photography primarily. So much cheaper and I don't need 8K. I think most folks will be happier with the Z8 in all aspects.
@@fjallmann same. I actually finally purchased the Lumix S5IIX the day Canon announced the R5 Mark II with that laughable price. People have to realize that if you want any good native Canon RF lenses, you're easily spending $6,000 to $8,000 between their overpriced L lenses. Canon played themselves by not allowing third-party lenses. I hope they lose a lot of the enthusiast crowd. I can see why professionals would stick with them if they're heavily invested in the Canon ecosystem.
I could see eye control af being a big deal for sports and wildlife but yeah, quite unexciting. I'm glad because I have zero upgrade desire, R5 is still perfect for me
Overall a very pedestrian set of improvements when compared to today's competition and ridiculously overpriced. Further exacerbated by Canon's anti competitive strategy of not offering third party lenses, forcing you to buy extremely overpriced Canon lenses. Hard pass
@@PetaPixel Do you think there is a realistic chance that Canon will give us a firmware update enabling 8K oversampled 4K 60p? We had oversampled 4K60p years ago in the R5C and the competition has it but it is NOT in the new R5 Mark II? What a shame....I'm really disappointed in Canon to artificially cripple the R5 II in such a way. Hopefully, a firmware update will fix that!
It’s give you the option for what kind of shorter you are don’t have to buy the 3 but definitely gives you the opportunity to customize accordingly to your needs. And at the end of the day, if you don’t need it, you don’t buy it.
Slower readout speed vs Nikon Z8. Video specs are identical with 8K/60 RAW, but you can get a mint Z8 for $2900 or $3499 new thus saving you anywhere from $800 or more.
Crazy that both R5ii and R1 are such a let down. Really thought Canon had something in the bag to go against Sony. Im sorry but A1 that came out almost 4 years ago is still better, and A9iii is in a leauge of its own, R1 really feels more like R3 ii than a flagship. They havent offered anything new that prior cameras didnt already have... ESPECIALLY at that price point.
True, but then what more can a camera possibly do for stills portraiture photography? Do we not already have essentially the best camera its possible to make for that kind of work.
The vastly reduced rolling shutter giving the ability to use electronic shutter without distortion and artifacts is not a major feature? Having used ES on my R3, I would absolutely hate to have to go back to mechanical shutter with all its noise and vibrations.
@@willherondale6367I would like to see improved AF and improved focus on multiple subjects. The R5 does not pick up a multiple face af like the newer Sony does The eye AF is cool but I don’t think it’s a need for a camera I’d rather just have a better AF system with better tracking for single and multiple subjects
I have r5 mk1, but mk2 has a stacked backlit sensor better dynamic range and lowlight + the better autofocus and raw buffer. The latter i thought we would get in a firmware upgrade fornmk1 though. But all in all, as a hobby photographer that does little video the upgrade is not worth it for me at the current price
Shutter speeds now faster than 1/8000sec with the electronic shutter are very usefull if you shoot portraits with fast lenses (f/1.2 etc.) in bright, sunny conditions! I love this feature on my R3! So you don't need ND filters or have to stop down.
Question for Jordan- how are the video assist features compared to a GH7? Will you still use the GH to produce videos or is the R5 mk II a viable candidate?
I don't know. Maybe my expectations were too high, but I'm not impressed. Sure, are great cameras, better than prior generation, but the competition offer similar goodies for far less price
It's so cool to see Chris and Jaron side by side shooting an event @ 0:44. Not a view we see very often! Also, great to see them name the battery after Petapixel. Great marketing!
@@GiulioSciorio That's bad news about Canon sacking Rudy Winston. I'm hoping that it was done amicably and that Rudy has got a good pension? It will be difficult to replace his in depth knowledge and the way that he put over highly technical information in a user friendly way.
@@GiulioSciorio Not always. If I had to guess, I would say it is more likely than not that Canon has a retirement plan and not just some minor contribution match to a 401k.
@@GiulioSciorio If you're saying that you _know_ Canon doesn't offer a retirement plan, then I defer to your experience, Giulio. I was obviously speculating.
As an R3 owner, the megapixel count is why I'm going with the R3 over the R1 (along with the improved video features). The R1 feels like it falls short as a replacement for my R3 whereas the R5MKII feels like a welcome addition.
Everyone is saying the R5 II is the true flagship over the R1. The narrative is the R1 is more like a R3 II. May be sports photographers don't need more than 24MP, but not for wildlife, at least not for birds. If the AF is virtually the same or may be just tad off the R1, I would take the R5 II. But, since I already have the R5, I don't think the R5 II has enough for me to want to upgrade to. Honestly, if Canon were to put the R5 II specs into the R1 uni-grip body with the 2 x CFexpress Type B card slots, that might be worth it for many R5 users to upgrade to.
@@lesnayalesichka Just not super excited about it. For US$3.8K, I could put it towards my HiFi system. May be get a really decent DAC or upgrade my SACD/CD transport. But, that's just me.😃
@@GungKrisna12 they could be, question is how many people would be willing to pay it. Obviously if you want the specs and you already have lots of RF glass it will be a no brainer.
dunno, it could actually be that the old batteries cannot discharge (pump out enough amps at their rated voltage) fast enough to keep the sensor/processor fed at thier highest data thoughput. it should be tested to be sure, you can't really know otherwise
As my occasional assistant said to me the other day. The rumoured specs don't look that different to the R5 (which is an excellent camera). This seems to be the thing. Yes, I am sure the R5II is going to be better then the R5, and the R1 is going to be better than the R3, but the differences I can't see that many photographers going, 'wow' I need to get these.
I mean photography tech is basically maxed out. The most important thing is autofocus and the R5II and R1 have the best on the planet right now. Video is where there are huge upgrades and that is what seems to sell these days.
@@77dris How do you figure that the tech is nearly "maxed out"? Like I understand there are laws of physics but I am just not seeing it. Can you explain your reasoning?
@@dominator2117 It’s maxed out in the sense that everything takes great photos. No one can see a few megapixels here or there if the photographer is good
@@77drisyou mean Canon’s technology is maxed out. The other brands seem to be pulling ahead. Nikon said screw it and put a Sony sensor and look how well that turned out. Canon at this point should just accept reality. A better Sony sensor in these Cameras would make them beasts. Instead they’ll try to keep it in house and slowly fall behind milking their user base as they go down.
The R5 II is 30 fps where the z8 is only 20 fps in raw ... how is that slower? 🙄Also the Canon has waaaaay better AF (even the older Canons like the R6 II has way better AF than the z8) and the dynamic range especially for photos will also be way better. The z9 and z8 had noticeably worse dynamic range than even the old R5. The R5 II also has way better video than the z8.
@@77drisBro, I'm about to buy one and it was between the Z8 and the R5II, do you recommend the Canon, what about the lenses, does Canon have little variety?
I have a technical question on the 30fps cripple while using the older batteries. My thinking is that since 24fps is not half of the 60Hz refresh rate that it requires more processing power. I remember 24fps being a big achievement when Lucas was working with Sony on digital Cinema cameras. Am I over complicating this in my thinking? Is it as simple as the sensor capturing 6 less frames and packing them into a video file, is it more taxing on the system to algorithmically alter the sensor’s native refresh rate, or is this all a ploy by Canon to sell more batteries? Thanks to anyone with an answer.
As a Z8 owner, I wonder what makes you say that? I wouldn't ditch all my lenses and jump ship for it, but the R5 II definitely seems like the superior camera. From what I heard, the AF is best in class, 30 FPS RAW and Pre-Capture RAW, those are all things I'd pay extra for.
Hi C&J, questions for the full review: • Does the stack sensor change affect DR? How does it compare vs A7RV, D8? • Is the in camera up res and NR better than software options? • how does in camera up res compare to R5 pixel shift and A7RV pixel shift in terms of producing high res, cleaner, better colour images? (For static subjects) Thank you!
The DR question is a critical one for me. The R3's stacked sensor didn't seem to affect its DR performance. Hopefully that is true with the R5 II as well. If it turns out that Canon has produced a Nikon Z6 III in terms of DR, it's game over as far as I'm concerned. I will never accept reduced DR in favor of readout speed. As far as the other questions go, I don't know why Canon wastes R&D on functionality that is better done on a computer. There are so many other things they could be focused on.
I have both A7RV and R5M1 A7RV AF always struggle in low light and low contrast A7RV viewfinder performs badly (noisy, laggy, poor output quality especially low light) A7RV read out and FPS is slow A7RV in camera long exposure NR will take 2nd shoot (30s than another 30s omg) that I really dont like A7RV tilting mon is nice A7RV has wider choice of lens A7RV has more customizable buttons/dials A7RV 61MP is nice
@@ian2nekoMore than anything else, I was disappointed that the R5 II didn’t something similar to the A7R5’s rear LCD. It is a superior design with no downside.
@@timothylinn yes, and some simple software features that are user friendly missing in R5 I (hopefully R5 II has it): -+ 5EV exposure compensation M mode extending shutter up to 900s instantly closing shutter on shutdown
The video frame grab information that you guys talked about yesterday on your panel and stated it was in 1080p is not correct. Canon'a website states that an 8k image can be taken by pressing the shutter button while recording video. Not simply 1080p
5:44 still shows IBIS wobbles at 26mm. I was really hoping Canon would fix this issue. Its a bit of a dealbreaker for me which is a bummer because I was really excited about Clog2 and the potential DR improvements over the original R5.
That is the only thing Nikon has going for it the sensor readout speed of the Z8 is 4ms, the R5ii is somewhere around 6 ms might be less but that's it... 2ms doesn't make a whole lot of difference.. And Canon R5 ii has a Mechanical shutter which is of course a 4ms readout speed as well..
Mechanical shutter is a big advantage over the Z8 and Z9 for some flash applications. Both of those cameras exhibit banding with high speed sync flash.
I would really like to buy the r5 mkii, but I can’t find information anywhere whether Canon has finally enabled focus bracketing with a flash :( I mainly work in macro photography and this function should have been available in cameras for $4000+ for a long time.
It feels like there will be an R5C II - or another C-something based on this with a fan inside and a little more video tricks. And at the same time there won't, we can get a fan. It's weird. Waiting for more on the 4K S-Raw analysis because the moire in CVP's preview was scary.
It has all these excellent features, but does it have one of the most simple features that has been found on even cheap cameras from other brands for over a decade (that has been missing from most Canon cameras)? That is, can you keep the horizon level on during recording video? It may seem silly, but this one feature will decide whether I purchase one or not. I know it has some self-leveling IBIS thing, but that isn't what I'm asking. I just want to be able to make the camera level myself, because I can see the level on the screen. Any clue if it can do that?
I think most experienced shooters have developed a good sense of balance/eye that such a feature isn't required. I've never had an issue a level horizon. My Sony has a feature to show balanced horizon, have tried putting it on a few times just to see - more of a distraction than aid from my experience.
Thank you for the video. Very useful. One comment though: there is one screen saying: 5.76M Dot EVF (1600x1200). But 1600x1200 is about 1.9 million not 5.76 million. And 1600x1200 is 4x3 aspect ratio not 3x2.
Hi, I am a Canon shooter for a long time now and one thing that is driving me crazy is that I cannot get face Recognition on multiple faces. For some reason Sony cameras do it but Canon ignores it and I don’t hear photographers talking about this issue much. A lot of times I find myself in the situation where I have to take a group photo and my camera would focus only on one person and not the entire group. I also noticed that if I step away from the group the camera will find focusing points around that group but not their faces. Can you tell me please what kind of canon catch that is? Thank you
Always exited to see new video features, also me watching most youtube videos on my computer in 480p to save on CO2 emission. Hey at least we got the choice
hi guys !! so is the BG-R10 battery grip will work with he R5 II, I read yes on the canon website, but with limitation , do you know which one ? thanks
Right from point one, if the readout speed is slower than the Z8 then this camera is a fail. The rest of it looks like a me too product next to the Z8, but you don't get access to Z glass. Good luck moving volume at $4300. This will see substantial discounts very soon.
I mean, why? There is no rolling shutter at all. LOL. And z glass is inferior to RF glass... plus you can access all the EF lenses too and unlike with Nikon (or Sony), Canon's adapted system works just as well as native glass.
@@77drisalso from all your comments in every video related to these 2 cameras, apparently we are all stupid as fuck and you seem to know it all and better than anyone else in this industry
What an amazing camera. I’ve got the R5, but I think Amazon Prime day 2027 when the R5II is like $1000 off is the time to buy. When the dust settles, please get Jordan to do a “waveforms for dummies” video?
I am glad they've released a new camera, but I must admit that I am happier that probably the price on the mk1 will now drop and I can finally afford it! :)
I just bought a 5D mk1 "Classic" for $200 and remembered that, allowing for inflation over 19 years, the 5D mk1 was way more expensive at launch than this R5 mk2. The 5D basically takes (beautiful) 13Mp images and that's it. It's fundamentally just a film camera with a sensor stuck in. The sheer amount of progress, technically, in 19 years to give us the R5mk2, for less money than the 5D is extraordinary. 8K video, 8 stops of IBIS, 40 frames a second, eye controlled auto focus !!!! I can't afford one, but the way things work out it will be $1,000 in a few years. Until then I'll hang on to my 5D, 5D-SR & 6D.
Like the Z8 the R5 mkii ticks all the boxes for an all round camera for pro’s. As amateur l am appreciating the compactness of my OM-1 mkii. It’s smaller, yet offering razor sharp fast lenses, for less weight, smaller size and far less money.
That r5 mark ii fits my needs as a sports photographer and fine art printing, that 30 fps would be so nice for volleyball and the 4k oversampling would be awesome for my video endevours. I see this as the best option because the only competition in my mind is the z8 and a1 because the a7rv just wouldnt be able to keep up with my sports stuff. And the nikon has good glass its just the 70-200 isnt great for moving as fast as i want to and there isnt a 28-70. I dont need an open mount cause i only need 2 to 4 lenses and canon has good glass. Plus i hate compressing my photos cause i am a data hoarder and i can always buy another 8 tb for 100 bucks
I read a few months back that the autofocus has an AI software that reads your eyeball as to what you're looking at and then locks on the target. Out of every review video that I've seen, nobody has brought this up. Was that a false article that I read? I see the viewfinder is HUGE now. So why else would that be then?
The Sony A7RV can do 61MP not 45MP, does 16bit output, has a 9.44m dot EVF not 5.76m dot EVF, has a fully articulating screen, dual CF express and SD card slots not just one CF express and one SD, is $800 cheaper and 2 1/2 years old. And you can basically get the same images quality from the A7CR for $3000. Now does are there some things that would make the R5mii better? Sure. But that assumes Sony and Nikon aren’t going to update their cameras that are now years old. This camera is average at best now and will be far behind the competition in a year.
Please review the "Capture video and stills simultaneously with no interruption." in final review. How it compare to competitor or other Canon? Also again: Hi res mode. Does it like any other brand? Or does it really new inovation that can be used in most normal situation hand held? --> it has been a bit showen in R1 video
@@HokgiartoSaliem if you shoot video at 1080p. The sills will be electronic shutter only and at the shutter you are capturing the video. It’s a pointless trick when you can extract 8K frame from an 8K raw video.
I'm also interested in the hires mode and I mead pixel shift, not the upscaling nonsense. The original R5 was pretty bad because you need sturdy tripod and absolutely no movement in the image to have good result. Anything with water is a no go.
With out looking it all, does the menu turns when the camera turns vertical? And canon why this stupid screen on the back again! Still I ordered one :-))
I can't believe they didn't include 8K oversampled 4K 60p I'm extremely disappointed in Canon. STILL ONLY oversampled 4K30p. The R5C offered 8K oversampled 4K at 60fps and so does the Nikon Z8. Canon didn't even match their own R5C...
@@77dris No, Canon decided to ARTIFICIALLY CRIPPLE the specs of the R5 Mark II in a last-minute move. This is a really bad look! EVEN all the Canon Germany employees at the presentation were surprised and even the first press release stated that the R5 Mark II would feature 4K60p oversampled from 8K. I linked the video of the German RU-vidr who attended the official Canon presentation. He talks about it starting from minute 21:06 until 22:10 and he. It's in German but you can read the original press release which is in English (he shows it at minute 21:28). This was what Canon originally put out but they changed course last minute surprising even their own employees. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GOuqv4x99Uo.htmlsi=kto346VoMpeBBIlU&t=1288 This is an extremely frustrating move by Canon. Artificially crippling a camera is a really bad look. This was one of the most important features to me and while I love everything else I'll have to go for the Nikon Z8 which offers 8K oversampled 4K60p. Unless we can convince Canon to release a firmware update enabling this feature. Their image processor CAN handle 4K60p oversampled from 8K as the R5C has proven!!! I'm very disappointed as this is a dealbreaker for me.
Perhaps too much heat and processing power, I mean the 4K HQ mode in R5 was the most demanding one already. But why bother when you can record in 8K and process it in post?
@@jan.tichavsky Well, the competition can do it. The years-old R5C can do it. There is no excuse for Canon not to include it in the R5 Mark II. Recording in 8K oversampled 4K60p or recording in 8K60p RAW is arguably a huge difference. It's sometimes simply impractical to shoot in 8K RAW. And once again. The competition offers 8K oversampled 4K60p so there isn't really an excuse. I'm really disappointed.
The r5ii is currently my dream camera. I upgraded my rp to a r6ii a year ago, and it’s awesome, and allows me to actually capture action during my daughter’s wrestling matches. I was wanting an r5, but was out of the budget I set for myself. With the price of the r5 now, it’s an insane value and I would’ve gotten that, as it’s still an amazing camera. The r5ii has just taken things up a notch in awesome camera at a great price for what you get.
Did I see Canon's Rudy Winston behind you in the introduction section? Hope that Rudy will be producing some in depth tutorials for features of the R5 II.
I saw him too at about 45 seconds into the video. I read that Canon let a number of people go, including Rudy. It's a shame. He was alway very helpful in his videos.
Do you happen to know if this camera has a proximity sensor (for the EVF) that works like the R3, where it isn't constantly coming on every time something brushes past it, like the R5 and R6 does?
Thanks for that! I have a question for Jordan please - Have they done anything about IBIS distortion toward the edge of the frame in Video with wide-angle lenses? Okay, fair's fair - one for Chris too - will the Flash Shoe run the "old" Canon Flashes like the 580EXII and Radio Triggers like the cheap-but-good Yongnuo ones or does it have to be a new generation Flash?
Re: the IBIS wobble, Peter McKinnon talks about this specifically in his R5 II video. He doesn't say there isn't any, but he says he didn't notice any while testing the body.
