@@hypergetic_02 Sheperd! Come in, this is Makarov! We're under attack by Price’s men at the boneyard! Yuri, hold the left flank! Do not trust Price! I say again, do not trust Price!
He says “I won’t beg for my life” but in every which way, he tries every negotiation tactic he can to not get shot. Amazing script within a few sentences exchanged.
Yea its actually a better tactic than begging not in this situation being that John is trained in combat and rules of engagement, but someone who isn’t is more likely to shoot someone that is begging out of fear or panic, than someone actually trying to talk you out of it.
Are mirror reflections of each other Kindred Spirits in that regard the big difference is General Shepherd is a few years ahead of Captain Price and justifications no one was standing it is murder Captain Price murder General Shepard rather than trying to go through official channels to hold them accountable and for what it's worth I think Captain Price compromised everything that he stood for previously to carry out that act of Retribution literally Shepherd did what price did however long ago he lost his way and now Captain Price there is no going back to the life he knew before the video title is correct Captain Price murdered General Shepherd
@@NobleHunterconventionally it was Sensibility Captain Price is about to Embark upon the same Twisted path that General Shepherd did it can be said that General Shepherd likely had a very lengthy career and it's entirely plausible that during his career in the war on terror General Shepard compromised himself to get the job done to tie up Loose Ends just as Captain Price did in this instance that line that Captain Price delivered we both were it's pretty potent because Captain Price compromised himself when he pulled the trigger the video title is correct regardless of circumstances or justification Captain Price murdered General Shepherd
The reason Price kills him because about PID issue before the final mission where he said don’t bother confirming Makarov’s death and it caused Soap’s death
this scene makes more sense when you look at it like that… either infinity ward didn’t actually intend for this or they really need to start sprinkling in some exposition in their dialogue
Shepherd proved himself on countless occasions to be too untrustworthy to be kept alive, which is why Laswell and Price needed him dead. - Enabling the missiles to be stolen by not giving Graves the air support he needed to fight off the Konni ambush. - Failing to own up to being responsible for the missiles immediately after Ghost and Soap find one in Al Qatala's possession. - Refusing to help Price when Laswell gets captured by Al Qatala. - Stabbing TF-141 in the back by ordering Graves to turn against them and steal Alejandro's base. - Makes deals with TF-141 to save his skin and his ego. - Heavily implied to have leaked classified intel when captured by Makarov. - Declares Makarov dead without any proof and stubbornly refuses to be contested on it. - Denies attempting to bury TF-141 by throwing Graves under the bus. Price took Shepherd's word to heart and and followed his advice about regretting to keep him alive.
Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless.❤
OG Shepherd is still better than that. He had actual schemes and goals behind his deeds, while this one is simply incompetent and arrogant (of course some generals in the US military might actually be similar to the remake Shepherd in this regard, but still...)
Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless.
Barry Sloane is easily my favourite version of Price. I'll always love the OG actors but if there's one thing that the reboot series did really well, it was the casting. Him and Ghost are easily my favourites in the series with Soap being a very close 3rd place.
I wont lie. In a dark and realistic sense. This one fits his death. Definitely like the Sicario franchise. For the original timeline thats more on the Hollywood side with the explosions and drama while also being an iconic game for its time. I still like the original but the new one fits its place when putting in the realitic elements in a cinematic sense rather than gameplay. Reboot COD fits better as a movie with all the new technology of CGI
@@ieatlawnclippings6748 not really. There whole thing for these games are to be grounded. I liked it. I like both. The OG games are like fast pace action, and the new ones are just grounded in reality, more or less. That being said it is video game
@@ox_trueprotagonistchrisred9085 He did, indirectly. Shepherd told Price Makarov was dead when in fact he wasn't. Makarov killed Soap. Shepherd left a loose end.
@@matthamlin7298 yes caused price hates to be surprise or betrayed again but sheperd is the caused, makarov will never reach london if the world knows he is alive sheperd declare him dead so soap dies for shiity skirmish plot.
@@matthamlin7298 Yes, but if Shepherd had let Price continue searching for Makarov instead of declaring that Makarov was dead and ordering Price to back down, he would have still been alive by now.
It felt cold. The way Captain Price emerges from the dark, and Shepherd starring at his death without hesitation. Felt like the opening scene from the James Bond film Casino Royal.
In the heat situation Are you afraid ghost ? Ghost : negative sir 😎 Oh god, actually ghost soap capt price and others are nice person, why his teammates must die, this is why i hate some aspect on politics, such betrayal 😓
Wasn't OG Shepherd so terrifying that he killed 2 Taskforce 141 members and beaten Soap and Price to pulp? And so threatning that Price had to call Makarov for help against Shepherd? Anyone remembered that in the OG?
to be fair, he caught those two off guard, and between them, soap, and price, only one wasn't already wounded. and the biggest reason price needed the help was because shepherd had connections and contingencies out the ass, not because he was personally particularly skilled in a fight. though to counter myself, he'd just gotten out of a helicopter crash when he fought off soap and price, so yeah, he was still pretty hardcore.
@VimyGlide he was so genuinely terrifying even Makarov agreed with Price the two would NOT stand a chance against Shepherd if they didn't strike first, so Makarov give him Shepherd's location, to save his own ass AND price. Let that sink in.
OG shepherd was not a threat whatsoever. He just used the element of surprise and got a blank check. The only reason Price asked for Makarov was because he couldn't find Shepherd. Price and Soap fought dudes worse than Shepherd. They just didn't expect an ally to be bad
General Shepherd: This job is about making sacrifices for the greater good. Captain Price: Agreed! I knew Captain Price would respond by saying something like that. 😎
To be fair, MW3 is clearly trying to be more grounded and realistic. I imagine a lot would be lame compared to how explosive and ridiculous the original MW2 was.
@@theworld6710if a general had a gun pointed at him at that range he would've fought back and put up a fight knowing how valuable his military position is
Shepherd: I am not going to beg for my life. Not for you or anybody else, Captain. Captain Price: Wouldn’t do you any good. *shots shepherd* James Bond: Yes, considerably.
Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints. The bible is no old book. You have to really let Christ open your eyes; to see the world in shambles. Many people say it's a religion to lock up people in chains, and say it's a rule book.. why? Because people hate hearing the truth, it hurts their flesh, it's hurts their pride, it's exposes on what things have they done..people love this world so much, s*x, money, power, women, supercars.. things of this world. Still trying to find something that can fill that emptiness in your heart. You can't find that in this world.. only in Christ, the bible is no chains, it's a chainbreaker. Breaking your sins into pieces... Repent now, and turn back to the true Lord only.. God bless.
Nope, given that Graves ratted Shepard out, Shepard became a dead man walking. Given the amount of pull Shepard has, the CIA has given the 'eliminate with extreme prejudice' route.
Very soon we won’t be able to tell if cutscenes are from video games or movie scenes. The level of graphical quality developers have achieved today is just phenomenal.
i think its more darker than the original. The OG is fun but comical obviously. This new one shows a more darker side of Price, and leading to that dark path. Soap death push him.
In 2023, Activision is worried about playing it safe to not “offend” anyone. But false advertisement about a “2 year life cycle game”, and outright misrepresentation of MW2 isn’t a big deal to the suits. Shoving actual DLC content down the consumer’s throats for the game that we were promised last year to milk their fan base for that extra $70+ is nothing short of fraud. I’m ready to have that talk. Until the masses stop making YT videos about flexing 30 dollar operator bundles with moms credit card, this franchise is never coming back. I get that many people mindlessly shell out money for micros and somehow try to make it a flex, but they will ensure that COD will remain dogshit. But hey, that’s cool tho. Y’all nerds that want to spend 70+ for unfinished dogshit speak dollars and cents, not reason. You’re just another transaction to the suits.
Honestly, he could have said "that's one less loose end" to get that total badassery. Price really didn't like his 141 being betrayed, glad they didn't make him and Graves the good guys in this story.
Wow. How climactic. I'm so glad they trashed the original timeline where Shepherd goes out in a huge blaze of glory in favor of this one where he just gets put down like a sick puppy in a fucking MCU post credit scene. 🙄😒
@rayankhatib8352 You "feel"? They literally took Nickmerc's bundle off the CoD store and publicly defamed him because he tweeted that the alphabet mafia should "leave the kids alone". THEN they did the same thing to TimTheTatman for standing up for Nick. If that doesn't confirm anything, I don't know what will.
TL;DR - (In my opinion) This is a really bad move by Price. Anyone else think this is a really dumb strategic move by Price? Revenge doesn't justify the straight up murder of a *still active* United States General. Shepherd may have been disgraced after the court proceedings and events of the MW reboots but considering he was still in uniform, in his office, that indicates that he was still in his active role, and in the eyes of everyone in the establishment, Shepherd would still be seen as honourable after turning himself in. Price killing him would only generate problems rather than solve any, unlike in the original where Shepherd was actively conspiring and encouraging the events of the game, literally resulting in WW3. By comparison, Shepherd did fuck all but play politics in this series, which as a General, is literally his job. He did as the 141 ordered him to do - admit to his actions publicly and suffer the fallout. He held up his end and still got murdered for it; in my opinion, Price is the bigger asshole in this scenario. Not only that, because of this, it now puts the whole 141 at risk since they will also be held responsible by affiliation with Price. *Addendum:* Ok, being in his office and still in uniform doesn't necessarily mean he is still in his position, but he still has a massively high public profile, probably still had plenty of connections and political pull. His sudden murder, in his own office, after a high profile court case would raise a serious number of questions to say the least.
Killing him is definitely gonna bring Price into DISAVOWED state if he was confirmed from security. I wonder how will that go on the next episode of the story
people hating but the cinematography and dialogue in this game would make one hellova movie and if you think soaps death was rushed or unnecessary then you just want characters with plot armor they literally go into battles and kill hundreds of enemies and yet they somehow come out without a scratch that goes for entire tf141 plus makarov did foreshadow it which gives depth to the story, looking forward for mw4 prices revenge arc the death seemed fitting for character development. People really think just because hes ghost or soap hes invincible like its a war setting not a racing game
He kills Shepherd because he knows he broke when he was captured by Makarov. If I'm not mistaken, the intel he gave to Makarov remains unknown to the audience, but it is most likely going to set the events of the next game. It wasn't an act of vengeance, Shepherd proved himself to be too untrustworthy to be kept alive.
Never mention the “greater good” to a person you’ve personally hurt by your direct actions. Almost as bad as saying “it’s nothing personal” or “it’s just business”.
You know what the best part is? If this game was an indie game and not a AAA game, it would probably be regarded as one of the best indie games of all time. It's only because it's an AAA game and part of a 20-year old series it's gotten so much hate for no reason
@@Hellodude-el1spyou gotta accept what criticism is and stop coping lmaooo. It’s a billion dollar yearly franchise with full priced games getting exponentially worse in quality every single year. Saying it’d be impressive if one dude made it doesn’t make it a good game brother. You don’t have to fight on the company’s behalf that hard
@@Hellodude-el1sp if it was an indie game i would agree, but it isn't, It's a AAA game with millions and millions put in it. The original shepard was great, a villain that had a motive to betray, he wasn't a general that stayed in a desk but someone with his men in the field. This one is the famous desk generals that wouldn't give a F if their soldiers died by a nuke or not.
can we talk about how Price would have been killed the second people heard that gun shot and seen a dead general. OR guy just started a war between the usa and the uk. and he'd 100% get kicked from the SAS. RIP PRICE
It’s such a big plot hole imo. Just like the original, wouldn’t he get wanted by the American government and get TF141 disavowed for killing a FOUR-STAR-GENERAL?! Laswell might also get in deep trouble for letting someone who killed the general in, too
You’re so privileged. I bet the poor kids in Africa would love to play this campaign if given the resources to do so. People from first world countries are so spoiled and entitled
@tmdaze9281 Okay, I get the point, bit you're really going to try to use the same phrase parents use for kids not eating their greens? 😂 Edit: Was stoned outta my brains with this reply, upon further sober examination this seems to me a joke, deepest apologies good sir, have a good day
Bullshit way to take control away from the player, instead of allowing us to do it manually from all the shit he put us through. Also, this was actually murder, and not a contract hit to kill a general.
So, my headcanon is that Shepherd was killed because 141 assumed he was deliberately collaborating with Makarov after capture... hell he probably might have met with Konni and planned the whole thing in advance. Hear me out. Makarov strategically sent intel to Nolan's radio once he understood he was being held captive, prompting 141 to go to Siberia, free a now compromised Shepherd and initiate a number of false flag operations that would benefit both him and the General. Shepherd was looking for a win, that is, a way to achieve reintegration after the missiles fiasco, while Makarov was trying to get Intelligence agencies off his back while planning his next move. So what do they do: Shepherd provides intel on Makarov position, bombs the facility and gets his win; at the same time Makarov sold the world the idea he was KIA, loosening global attention and gaining the right degree of relaxation to enter London undisturbed.
This would’ve never happened to 2009 shepherd. They nerfed tf out of him. The OG shepherd beat the living shit out of both soap and price in hand to hand combat.
This doesn’t make any sense at all. Shepherd was merely playing politics, and after confessing in public, he may have faced court marshal since he was an active general. This scene just makes Price look like a cold, blooded murderer. This is nothing like modern warfare, two that I played years ago, when Shepherd actively committed to acts of murder.
A british soldier murdering an american general without even wearing gloves? I don't think the writers thought that through. Price would go to prison for the rest of his life.
Considering said general had illegally traded advanced munitions to dubious allies and then tried to murder multiple non-American soldiers in an attempt to cover it up, I don't think many will mind.
He's got the CIA at his back. Shepard couldn't be touched by the courts, so they backed this hit on the general. Personally, I would have chosen the Mr. Morden treatment, but that's not in the cards in this case.
They took all the life out of this game. Killed soap like he’s a side character, made no Russian incredibly tame, and now we’re killing off major characters in cutscenes. OG will always be the best
While I agree that a massive moment like this shouldn’t have been in the after credit scene. I think the fact that it happened in a cutscene is fitting for this version of Shepherd. He’s not a field soldier or a man of action like in the OG. This Shepherd doesn’t deserve an entire mission dedicated to hunting him down and killing him.
This scene is arguably my favorite in the whole campaign. Top notch acting from both Shepherd and Price. "This job requires making sacrifices for the greater good." "Agreed." The coldest comeback. "I'm not gonna beg for my life for you or anybody else, Cap'n. "Wouldn't do you any good." Feels like the old Price. Gives ya chills. You deserved it Shep. That was for Soap. Rest In Peace. The perfect way to end it in my opinion.
Wouldn't this cause WW3 as an SAS specialist operator just killed an American General on American land? We literally have an alliance with America but wouldn't that break it since Price just did an assassination??
@@SupersonicspyroNaturally love but you would think that such a high ranking and not to mention heavily guarded place would catch John doing this and then literally see him leave Shepards office where cameras are surely running? Maybe I'm reaching far with this since it's a game lol
He was too dangerous to be left alive. After what he told Congress, Laswell, and in turn, the CIA hired Price to have Shepherd executed. I feel like this would actually happen within our own US Military. No general would be sitting in that if they ordered their own troops to fire on their own.
In the original MW2, they went from chasing shepherd on a boat, to fighting him in a desert. Meanwhile in this MWIII, it's simple, price just shot him right then and there.
Shepherd should’ve went out in a cooler way. Even though he isn’t the same as the original, they still could’ve made him go out like a badass. Have the scene framed like the audience (and Price) think he’s reaching for a gun only for it to reveal a cigar and saying “You’re here for one thing Captain. Let me enjoy this.” He can keep the same lines. Regardless, it seems more badass imo. Doesn’t care he has a gun to his head and simply wants to enjoy his last moments by puffing a cigar.
On another note, price has been a captain longer than most kids playing this game today lol. You would think for all he’s fictionally done he’d at least be a general by now 😂
