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Interesting thought!

True, I can see Carnage getting better scaling later down the road

@@ItsButterBean1020 he's dead

@@KeyIssues I know, I mean more I could see later content making him retroactively scale higher if that makes sense. Kind of like how Garfield Spidey's cast gets way stronger thanks to NWH stuff

​@@KeyIssues Bro can i make a question ?

They are scaling tobey off of toms spidey, he consistently is shown dodging and reacting to characters like thanos, electro, etc who are blatantly hypersonic and Tom has the best durability feats thanks to the bullet train and ferry feats. His strength is consistent with cull obsidian who no only scales to hulk buster mark 2 but also enraged hulk who he was confined defeating until he was stopped by ebony maw. Obviously Tobey would scale to tom via green goblin and doc oc, if you need more speed examples, tom(with help) speed blitzed thanos the same guy who reacted to photons after they were fired and swapped hands with cap, tony and Thor at the same time as well as captain marvel, tom also blatantly dodged automatic gunfire from over a dozen drones as well as the electro feat which shows him on screen dodging lightning after it leaves electros body

And yet the Pumpkin Bombs all have a standard design and despite such, their functions are different. But that doesn't mean the output of the explosives would be changed as well. Besides, the same Pumpkin Bomb that was used to destroy the Venom Symbiote also disintegrated Eddie without a trace left, with only his skeleton seen for a split second. Just like the bomb that was used to kill the board members of Oscorp.

@@DanVerbatim actually tobey has more impressive durability feats than toms spiderman. Check out why tobey is the srrongest spiderman crisis

@@uzookafor8721 I’ll get right on that 👍🏼

i’m pretty sure the spider bite altered Peter’s DNA, I doubt his cells would respond the same way a regular persons would to the energy output by the goblin bomb, peter’s body can handle a LOT of energy. I think it’s the same bomb, just impacts peter’s physiology less.

bro theres no way u think tobey can mid diff carnage from sony thats just like beyond bias

even venom from sony can stomp on tobey... or really any spidermen

@@thundryx Based on what? Raimi Venom would 1v2 Sony Venom and Carnage lol..

Sony venom and carnage are weak and don’t have spider sense

​@@thundryxLook at the one talking 😂 Learn powerscaling after watching Tobey movies first then talk .

Carnage being building level is a low ball. We see him perform feats that puts him slightly higher plus edie stated carnage was going to destroy the entire city

@@madslayer4197 carnage being building level is the only level we know for sure, being building level, you could probably destroy a decent bit of the buildings in a city decently quickly, I think we both know a statement (that I don’t remember tbh) saying city level doesn’t always mean it, and as venom himself doesn’t have anything above wall level by himself, and only scales to building level+ from carnage himself and his feats, and isn’t one shot by carnage. It’s very consistent to keep him here.

@@Mikerille we see carnage perform that casually so you could easily scale him higher plus some debatebly town level feats as well.

@@Mikerille saying city level does in fact mean city level. That's what a statment is. And venom not having anything above wall level is just false

@@madslayer4197 no, it quite literally isn’t false. And no, saying someone will tear up a city doesn’t mean they’re city level.

Yeah, absolutely. He's already dealt with symbiotes before, he's got the win

@@the_rose_garden01 he’s done it in Spider-Man 3, and the animated series.

In the comics Yes. In MCU most likely no taking into account Venom alone pull out a W

Clearly they are talking about the live action version by which spidey wins

venom needed a lot of help to beat carnage

I think the fact that carnage is willing to kill right off the bat is a huge advantage, also like you said, spiderman typically needs help just to stay alive. With no plot armor, I think carnage wins 9/10-10/10 times.

@tankjr84 that's irrelevant if tobey's spidey is way faster and stronger. If tobey can react to lightning then he's not getting tag by carnage whose speed can only be scaled to bullets. Tobey will sense his killing intent and with him having experience fighting symbiote before he'll know how to deal with this version of carnage and incapacitate it. Scalling matters.

We have to remember that Thanos was injured after he destroyed the stones when Captain Marvel fired the photon blast at him and he was still able to block the blast with his hand.

The bombs that turned people to skeletons couldn’t kill Spider-Man per the statement from Goblin. Which is what Crisis said in the video.

@@KeyIssues true but they were never used against him, just the exploding ones but yeah I agree.

@@spider-dude2476 I said almost dead.

​@@FahimusAlimus I don't know how I miss read that as something else

Yes in both comics and movies

It depends on whether you think Venom is weakened in the second movie or not

In the comics it’s a slaughter, in the movies riot would actually win

@@ItsButterBean1020it’s an objective fact that he was weakened it’s not a matter of opinions

Cyborg is around moon

Cyborg is building level

So how he survived touch 😆

A needle with light speed can't destroy earth heck not even a city coz it's kinetic energy will be 26trillion joules which is small town level at best

Surviving the touch of the flash doesn't mean anything

Tobey solos your favorite verse

Carnage is weak asf watch the video bozo

@@JUZSTINI love Tobey but Tobey ain’t beating SpongeBob or Tom and jerry😂

Hell no

Yep , Tobey is multi city block + millions tonner . And this Carnage is like under 100 tonner building level .

That Venom is 50x stronger than Carnage

​@@KeyIssues puking bomb IS building level Bro, not city block Who make this calculation?

​@@KeyIssuesI refuse to believe that trash adaption is somehow stronger than the TRUE venom... If anything he is weaker because he never displayed the ability to bulk up... Also everyone forgets that true venom simply couldnt have defeated his Carnage without the help of shriek and the simple fact that Cletus kasady was fighting Carnage the whole time... Carnage is always depicted as far stronger than his father

​@nigelpower8982 Your bias is showing😂. Hard to accept that sm3 venom is stronger

Live action feats are different, try to understand that it's not comics and not even the same universe

@@Aryan_Aran scaling to feats are just dumb in terms of live action. Especially speed. Anyone can react to anyone in live action unless ur a speedster.

@@Alexander-ng7zz 🤨 WTH you on bro 😂

Venom 2007 one staps

Raimi Venom bullies he is stated stronger than Tobey spiderman

That version of venom is much stronger then carnage

​@@midnighter9768 wait, how is Topher's venom stronger than this carnage? It would be helpful if you provide some feats.

@@supaidaman_editz He’s stronger or as strong as spiderman who can overpower doc ock and stop trains

​​​@@midnighter9768it's true that's that venom had experience from bonding with spider man... But have you ever seen ANY version of carnage even need the powers from Spider-Man, EVER!!!??? The powers carnage gets from being a next-generation symbiote born on a separate planet than his father was (which boosts their evolution speed significantly) are far greater and far more powerful than anything he could have gotten from spider-man cuz the powers are simply more useful in practice... Edit: Peter has webs and bare hands... Carnage has any weapon he needs and as long of a handle as he needs... The only hope Spider-Man would have would be exploiting the poor host situation... Especially since Peter doesn't have a shriek on standby ready to pull a 180 and turn on carnage... which is exactly what happened in venom let there be carnage

That’s the opposite of what they tell us in the movie

That does not make him immortal+Carnage literally died at the end of the movie you're assuming things

But what I'm saying is that his symbiote bond is much more different than venom's is symbol is bonded with his blood so no matter how much times you kill him going to come back

@@devonjohnson9483 Not really

Mysterio is a joke Tom is considered less capable than Andrew to tobey’s Spider-Man Tom only struggled due to a lack of spider sense and the fact in far from home he was a dumb kid to the 11th degree

I'm just curious would either Tobey or Andrew be able to see though Mysterio's illusions and we have to remember Mysterio basically has an army of drones by his side. The drones have Miniguns, Flamethrowers,Sonic canons & Lasers on them.

@@spider-dude2476 here is the problem my friend Tom holland Spider-Man should have died in far from home for 3 reasons. Number 1 beck had the opportunity to have all 500 drones kill Tom Spider-Man in which spider sense or no that he like trying to dodging rain Your dead if beck used all his drones to kill Spider-Man first than boot back up the illusion or stop the booting up to kill Peter then boot it up again As less then 20 drones nearly killed Tom Spider-Man Second reaosn Tom had access to the stark plane and could have made a spider armor to compensate for the lack of spider sense as we saw other suits like the spider armor mark 2 in the computer which in the comcis was specifically designed to protect peter from any damage due to his spider sense not working Yet he didn’t even consider that and just made a regular suit And don’t say he couldn’t make it given how far Tony’s tech has evolved he can make a suit on the fly now with nanotech Peter had the opportunity to make a suit we’re if his spider sense didn’t work or all 500 drones did target him he would be able to take the bullets flames and shock waves without much issues 3 the final reason the plot of armor/convenience of his spider sense coming back out of no where without any set up to why it came back or how peter just mastered it out of literally no where by all accounts it shouldn’t have even come back when it did and Tom peter would have died You know what would have stop beck outside of disrupting the illusion in the event he couldn’t make a suit in time or have his spider sense work Going straight for beck and take Edith back to stop the illusion that way beck can’t drop the illusion without blowing his cover that’s it’s a fake and this can’t use the 500 and he is easy picking for any Spider-Man But basically Tom peter was a dumbass in that movie and only won because of plot armor in the sense of how he beat dr starnge in no way home when it shouldn’t have happened based on how poorly he was doing. I’m confident that say if Andrew or Tobey were in far from home they beat beck by doing what I just said going after him first to stop the illusion and use their spider sense to dodge what little drones he had protecting him Where Tom did the stupid thing by destroying the illusion first giving beck no reason to not kill him right there and then by having every drone one of the 500+ drones shoot at him

@@ATalesTruth- He sent hundreds of drones to kill spiderman, he managed to destroy all of the ones he sent. Him sending all his drones would just make it easier for peter as he destroyed a bunch at once due to them being at close range. Sending all drones at him would just made it easier since he can web multiple at once. Also how was he supposed to know where beck was when he jumped off the plane. He couldve been anywhere which is why he went aft the illusion.

@@Alexander-ng7zz no he didn’t if you look less than 25 we’re chasing him All the 500+ drones were doing anything watch the scene again My point is if beck had all 500+ drones targeting him he be dead Sending all of them woudo I sure he in wins given the few he did send were giving him trouble Again if he wanted to eliminate Spider-Man quickly and effectively without him causing more problems he should have sent all the drones target and shoot him It be trying to dodge rain of bullets at that point Tom Spider-Man would have died with or without spider sense My whole point to peter being an idiot Is 1 he should have made a suit to compensate for the lack of spider sense Aka make a spider armor which if you look at the computer it had all the spider armors be it iron spider or the spider armor mark 2 whcih is spescicly designed to protect peter from all types of damage due to a lack of spider sense Yet he choose to make a alternate colored classic suit where instead of blue red it’s black and red That one strike 1 strike 2 is the fact the spider sense come back when it did with no huilt up or explanation to how it came back is plot armor in the same way Peter somehow betting dr strange in no way home bad plot armor Strike 3 beck had all 500+ drones at his disposal and when spidemrn destroyed his illusion he had no excuse after he told his guys to stop the illusion To have all 500+ drones target and kill Spider-Man first then can go on with what ever he was going to do next after his illusion was ruined And strike 4 Peter knew were beck was already so he had no excuse to not take out beck there and then to stop the illusion while all 500+ drones had to work on the illusion And another thing that would be a strike is why the heck beck was on the bridge in the first place when he could have pulled off the whole operation somewhere else Meaning even if Spider-Man stopped the illuion He would be safe from being I. Close proximity to Spider-Man because he was away from the very sight He had no reason to be there So him even being there makes him stupid And peter is stupid for the reasons I mentioned Basically these films aren’t well written and you have to no pay attention to say otherwise

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@@KeyIssues but if venom venom had Spider-Man power I think he would win but gooooooo Toby

ths is a battle between two live action versions who have never met before which is why two live action versions who have never met before are in the thumbnail