Carol Vorderman caller argues 'rich people' are holding up Britain | LBC 

He's thinks that because groveling to these top elites might have done him no harm, that fawning the way he doe should be for everyone, the greasy pole climbing cap doffer. It's his knows all know nothing numpty talk that gives him away. 'Carol Carol Carol' 'Carol your a numbers girl' 'It's rich people that hold this country up'. 'Do you know Alan Sugar.......'

It's probably impossible to be a billionaire and not be a sociopath. Imagine knowing you could end homelessness or starvation but just saying nahh, could use another yacht or buy another private jet or I could really use another football team. How about an investment in BAE systems? Just a theory

Just watching Radium Girls, another case of just how unethical big businesses are. History, facts and understanding seem to elude the likes of Charlie.

It's just like Alf Garnett!

@@obe1withtheforce785I bet you do absolutely nothing for charity

He was loud, passionate, confident… and wrong. 😑

@@sergiodbd no doubt was a Brexit voter, gullible to his core 🤣

Charlie’s a bit thick methinks

Charlie is an old fashioned Cap Doffer and Forelock Tugger.

@@ecohipster7724 Gullibles travels

Spot on.

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Excellent Rob.

Love it, such true words!

.... spot-on ....

very true...if it was to work why not try "tickle up" as the average family would then get the extra cash and by spending it they would surely help boost the growth, whereas the rich would typically keep the money in offshore investments or property...

@@CaptainFearless1 exactly. If you gave 1000 normal people £100 they would spend it in the economy. If you gave 1 billionaire £100,000 they would move it into an offshore account to avoid paying tax and them invest it abroad.

Trickle down economics is actually pronounced "kick back economics"

Capitalism does exactly what it says on the tin.

Like BP & Shell with their Negative Tax

Head examiners charge a fortune and become rich people. Are you touting for business?

Waist of time there is nothing in his

He's a cap wringer probably working for some rich family

And the reason the country is failing, because the middle classes have been financial tightened too much. Why so many businesses are closing.

Not all of them. Many middle class avoid tax too.

@@chrisj9700 Everyone?

@@chrisj9700 Oh right, the legal kind. As you were then 😉

@@bb5979 Nowhere near the same. How many middle-class people can get an offshore bank account or residency in Monaco? I paid almost double the tax in percentage terms than Rishi 'Richest PM ever' Sunak last year.

Sad innit.

And he'll be shouting his 'opinion' as loud as he can to anyone unfortunate enough to be in earshot.

Nope

Sadly brainwashed into believing what the elite say he has been caught hook line and sinker. .

That shouldn't even be a question. He clearly doesn't have a clue.

No that was Buffett and his office cleaner

that was Buffet not Sugar

Sugar recently tried to get himself declared as a non dom to avoid paying tax until it was pointed out that he couldn't be a non dom and a Lord at the same time

@@roc7880 I was aware that Buffet said it but I remember Sugar saying something similar, but I may be wrong. That being said. Sugar did get angry over a £180 odd million tax bill he got. He thought his accountants had successfully avoided it for him.

@@skasteve6528 He also said he wouldn't clean his car with Ex Spurs player. Jurgen Kninnsman 's shirt. Then hypocritically re signed him. Can't believe a word he says.

This 🤣👏👍

obviously. Go back to your biology textbooks.

@@annepoitrineau5650 Umm, look up "rhetorical"

I’ve said that for years…

@@JRandaIIIt comes down to a couple of things: lack of mathematical understand and the numbers are so large the average person is unable to comprehend them.

​@JRandaII marx said it first.

​@@BillyBobJoeSnralso here Charlie was conflating companies and people. We also need to consider wealth and earned income - Sunak just published his tax return summary, it showed he paid less than 23% tax. As a percentage that's less than a nurse.

Charlie will never understand that. That's just voodoo to him.

Also that tax destroys money and government spending creates money,..

They didn't earn it, let's be clear ab0ut that.

He doesn't need to. He knows he is right.

A bloke down the pub told him….

@@petyrkowalski9887 He heard it from his park bench drinking buddy because he can't afford the pub anymore. Those places are for the RICH TAX PAYERS Charlie is so fond off.

The Daily Fail, The Sun, The Express, Torygraph. Take your pick. Thatcher was all too influential. With the great council house sell off at less than half market value, she created a generation of working class Tories. Unfortunately for their children the whole idea of owning their own home is now a pipe dream. And she entirely squandered North Sea 🛢 oil wealth on tax reduction for the rich. The Norwegians set up a sovereign wealth fund with their revenues. Thatcherite idiocy has become accepted "wisdom" for the Charlie's of this world. Not to mention the Liz Trusses.🤪😜😝😛

Totally agree with this, they cant think for themselves dont want to listen to facts so they just repeat what they read in the daily fail. etc

I think the Daily Mail is a bit wordy for him

He’s been on the Charlie .

The big chunky Charlie.

its not certainly in biblical terms

They’re not hoarding money 😂. That’s a very limited view of economics man.

@@maximyles If you think having a billion in one's bank account is not hoarding then your bar for what is financially safe is very very high. Clearly, you have the limited view of economics. Either that or just outright blinkered and believe poor people should stay poor unless they can scam people out of millions in taxes. FFS!

​@@maximyles many are.

Hoarding is probably not teh right term here. Extracting? Chiselling?

The politicians / government are the rich..so makes it easy on the rich to hide a chunk of their money but who can blame them for putting it away from been continually taxed in this country because when we buy things by the time it's in your hand about six businesses have pay tax on the object before I bought it so how this government continues to say it's no money how when it s been paid 7 time on one item ONE like abaf of sugar

Immediately corrected that rishi was chancellor and the new chancellor isn't exactly poor AND they talk to each other

I'm sure the super-rich don't involve themselves in donating to political parties that favour their interests...

The super rich orchestrate the government, Charlie is delusional.

Even the opposition party, supposed socialists, who aren't even in government yet won't even entertain raising taxes for the super rich! If that doesn't tell you how corrupted our system is there is no hope for you.

because he has been told they do by his newspaper no doubt

Listen, Charlie don't surf!

Charlie has blisters on his belly from all the groveling.

​@@django3422The levels of illiteracy are astounding 😂

Britain is not a poor country. The vast majority of the people are though

love it ! 🤣🤣🤣@@django3422

The Council Estate School of Debate

@@friendgray1sod off classist

@@friendgray1😂😂

The economy is driven by the average person doing well, going out and buying. Not the super-rich hoarding assets. They are just a drain on society.

COVID also showed us how to increase the wealth of super-rich at the fastest rate ever seen before. If you gave 1000 normal people £100 they would spend it in the economy. If you gave 1 billionaire £100,000 they would move it into an offshore account to avoid paying tax or use it to buy assets.

I'm Welsh and I feel the same way as you towards Tory voting English people, they are completely fooled

​@ecohipster7724 well, the vast majority of ppl don't vote tory.

@@DJWESG1 Let's hope that's reflected in the next GE, cos ye's have lumped us with a Tory gov since 2010.

Most English people DON'T vote Tory but our archaic, unfit-for-purpose electoral system keeps ensuring that the 25-30% who do are stitching up the entire Isles.

I live here and seriously can’t believe this is where we are now. He doesn’t have a clue…

And probably rattling on about young people spending all their money on avacado toast and coffees whilst they spend 6 pound a pint at the bar every evening 🤣

Propping up Wetherspoon's are a lot of right Charlies .

There's a "Charlie" that OWNS the damm place!

@boxing If you choose to drink there!😂

My father spent most of his disability money in Weathies, where he held court, every morning at 11, with a pint of "Whatever's cheapest" and complaints about benefit scroungers. His friends and he all drank their way to the Coop funeral home in the end..

@charles That your stereotypical view of the working classes Charles?

While the truth is the opposite. They pay less tax proportional to their wealth, and the fact they contribute so much is a sign that inequality has gone way too far

​@@prestigepea1235exactly, just look at Sunak publishing his tax return summary - he's paying an overall rate of less than 23% when a nurse pays more than that.

Confidence is everything.

@max You seem very familiar with that area?😊

Sun "Readers"? Surely an Oxymoron? 🤔

Donkeys are smarter.

@steve And don't put any of it back and that's why GB is such a poor country and will remain so until we get a Labour givernment!

How much money is he taking out of the system through his policies and his wife's companies that's not paying taxes

He moved the goalposts. To be in top 10%, you need to earn £66K, which is nice but not what we're talking about. Top 1% is approx £100k Lower income groups use almost all of their salary on living, putting more money back into the economy, whereas higher groups salt them away in savings

I'm guessing that Charlie struggles a little understanding percentages and their effects also.

@@chrisj9700 The richest do not gain most of their wealth in the form of income. Consequently they tend to pay a smaller percentage of their overall yearly earning per year in tax than someone who gains mainly income. But their earning are so high that they still pay the majority of the tax paid, even at a smaller percentage.

@@chrisj9700 No mate. Income is not how they get their wealth. If it comes in a taxable form it will be a Capital gain as the tax is lower. We are not talking about doctors here.

@@chrisj9700 Nope. Just take Sunak as an example. His effective tax rate last year was 23% but his income was around 2.2 million. Why is he paying a lower tax rate than me? Because he got most of that from capital gains and the rest as dividends from his shareholdings. His job as PM is just a side hustle as far as earnings go.

Funeral by funeral

Nah, he just sounds like a four-year-old explaining why he should have an ice cream

Is ignorance an illness?

I agree with you 150 per cent....but invthe UK people needs to wake up and smell the...Capuchino not the very watered Tea.

I don't disagree with you ,but Mussolini stated that, Fascism should more correctly be called Corporatism the Merger of Government and Corporations . Fascism includes the Workers in a mutual beneficial Nationalism the violence come from the need to divide the mass majority in Corporatism so a minority can maintain control with out question. The Government you could argue is anti British

That is why Corbyn had to go. He was proposing taxing the super-rich more fairly.

The big comanies are all foreign. Them pay the bulk of there taxes where they are from.. The USA will get very angry if we try to tax Apple , Facebook and Google as if they are British. Thatcher didn’t care where they came from, as long as they employed people. Unemployment was hugely expensive.

Exactly. I used to have a one man limited company. Turnover less than £50,000 a year. I was paying more in UK corporation tax than Amazon.

@@grahambell4298 Well unfortunately, the conservatives are the reverse robin hoods take from the poor to give to the rich.

@Suzanne Thanks for clearing that up. Sure CV and her massive brain could work that out.😊

Ah you have misunderstood me, it's a quote from a film. I wrote it as an affirmation not an explanation.

That's what I don't understand. I paid for my pension out of my wage so why do I pay tax on it?

agree and he is part of the problem being overly deferential to the rich

Answer: Glue.

I mean there are ways around this, increase capital gains tax, create a Luxury goods tax (LGT) so cars over 100 grand, jewelry over 25 grand, clothes, bags or shoes over a grand, have 10% tax on top. The price of the goods is why they are bought it's nothing about value so the extra 10% cost just make them more exclusive and will not put off buyers. Also introduce a Land value tax (LVT) this would mean you pay based on how much you own, so no more council tax unless you own the land, and you pay a % based on the value. This will also stop hedge funds and the like sitting on land and developments which could be developed into houses. Solving the housing crisis in this country as well as increasing the tax revenue!

@furie Brilliant economic thinking! Amazed you haven't had more likes!

@@chatham43 Thank you

And they buy big houses and several of them and are taxed on each one.

@@johnowen1677 no if the houses are not fully furnished, and if it is a big house you can just leave a room or two empty you don't pay council tax if you live elsewhere. If you leave the house to members of your family they would have to pay tax on it, however the work around is to put the deed in trust in the Cayman Islands, then it is a non taxable asset. This is what members of the government currently do to hide their net worth and pay less tax!

Yes but 23% of 2.2m is far more than 20% of a nurses wage. Should have gone to 'Mathssavers'.

Whys that matter? We should all pay the same %. If you earn millions you are clearing many ££££££s more than the average worker.

What would she know about numbers?..

@alex eh...?

its all explained in a book written a hundred years ago.the ragged trousered philanthropists...the great money trick chapter21

@shunk You seem very familiar with working class vernacular these days. You forgot flat caps and whippets!

My thoughts exactly - he sounds like a bloke off those 1940/50's BBC newsreels when the 'Posh' BBC chap interviews people in the East End.

Indeed! Seriously worried about how thick these people are!

It is the definition of "rich people" that is how this particular con works. By lumping in a large proportion of the working/earning middle classes you can produce statistics that show "rich people" pay the majority of the tax. In reality anybody earning a salary is taxed according to the tax rules at a marginal rate of up to 60%. On the other hand if you are rich enough, and make money by investing money, you can keep your earnings offshore where they are not subject to the income tax system of the UK.

I agree you're not rich if your middle class you're lucky, for the moment.

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I have always said this, i think they need to confirm that you are above a certain intelligence before you get the vote, unfortunately half the population would fail miserably, this was confirmed when people voted johnson in because they though he was funny. Sadly they probably would still vote for him and make up excuses for him to save face. !!

Mental or drugs

Fresh batteries.

Because that's how these people try to win an argument shout everyone down and bombard you with verbal diarrhea. He doesn't want to listen he just wants shout as loudly as possible because he knows as soon as he gives someone the chance to issue a cogent response his argument collapses like a house of cards

"anyway, love to the family"

I think he eats crayons as well

😂😂 I know right ..its ridiculous ..love to the family .