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Casey Wasserman on the Seismic Shifts Coming to College Football | The Rich Eisen Show 

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Sports entrepreneur Casey Wasserman and Rich Eisen discuss why his alma mater UCLA bolted the Pac-12 for the Big Ten and what the future of big-time college athletics looks like.
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@ernieyeager6927
@ernieyeager6927 2 месяца назад
This was before nil but I always said that athletes should get 8 years of scholarships. 4 to play and then 4 to take college courses serious. It’s hard to study while practicing so much. Not impossible just hard. And then they are really getting a education. Just a thought
@jpm5205
@jpm5205 2 месяца назад
Higher-education needs to focus on academics again and emphasize amateurism in collegiate sports as part of the fundamental mission of developing thinkers and leaders. It should not fall on taxpayers/parents/regular students to subsidize a minor league of the NFL.
@WMusick
@WMusick 2 месяца назад
I pay taxes in Oregon so the U of Oregon can go off, screw the region, and go make millions entertaining. I am such a chump.
@danholmes2369
@danholmes2369 2 месяца назад
You can't put the genie in the bottle. Have you turned on a TV? Have you noticed how much money March Madness and college football generate? You think it's fair that coaches get tens of millions, the conferences get billions, the schools get hundreds of millions, and the players get tuition? That's all? Be serious.
@jpm5205
@jpm5205 2 месяца назад
@@danholmes2369 No it's not fair. But the answer to all that money isn't to throw more money at it. States should put salary caps on their public employees (including football coaches). Universities should treat ALL MONEY that comes in via conference media contracts/bowl appearances/merchandise as revenue for the university (and not the athletic department), and as such be restricted completely for general university - scholarship purposes including the school's scholarship fund. If a donor wishes to make a gift to the athletic department, that donor MUST also make a matching donation in the equal amount to the general university fund. Schools need to shut down bs jock diploma departments aka "Youth Studies." I have no problem with "paying" athletes. But it would be a modest stipend that every athlete equally receives from QB1 to the No. 6 runner on the cross country team. NIL needs to be banned. And the NFL needs to start their own minor league. That would be exciting. And If you actually cared about the fairness of the business and the well being of these young men (doubtful), you know that a NFL minor league is the best place for these players.
@ericparker163
@ericparker163 2 месяца назад
You think the money comes from taxpayers??........Broadcast rights with network deals, advertising, video games and sponsorships, attendence at the games themselves etc The money generated from college football is subsidizing all the other programs a school runs. Its the collegiate cash cow. Players don't deserve something from the millions being generated?
@WhosBosko
@WhosBosko 2 месяца назад
@@ericparker163education, room/board and training. That is the compensation. That is amateur athletics.
@markwager8294
@markwager8294 2 месяца назад
Maybe higher education should be completely divorced from the process of developing professional athletes. I understand that the horses are well out of the barn on this one, but I do think that the junior hockey model in Canada is a pretty good example of how you can reliably develop professional athletes without colleges and universities being involved.
@danholmes2369
@danholmes2369 2 месяца назад
So, should colleges stop creating future doctors, engineers, teachers, and truck drivers? What sort of point are you making? Why can't professional athletes go to college too?
@jpm5205
@jpm5205 2 месяца назад
⁠@@danholmes2369You know that those things are not the same. College was first and foremost simply higher education for those seeking knowledge past high-school. You had to have taken Latin to get into college before. And as the world became global and more industrialized, it became the path by which the leaders in society (military officers/engineers/doctors/lawyers/scientist/etc) had to go through. College, like the rest of society became more democratized and open and more “professional” vs intellectual in nature. Instead of studying English in college to learn about the world and how to communicate, people went to college to studying marketing and instead of going to college to seek knowledge and learn how to think, it became something you did just to get a job. At no point is “developing” professional sports athletes an educational mission of a college because sports are not an intellectual discipline. Music and art? Computer science? Yes. Yes. Finance and economics? Yes. Running with a pigskin? No. Collegiate sports are incredibly important to test character/leadership/teamwork/honor which is critical to a school’s mission in developing thinkers and leaders. But The University of Texas/Ohio State/UGA/Notre Dame etc. do not exist simply to field a football team. Professional minor leagues are great. We need more of them so these young players can make money and states can have their schools focus on education.
@smh0825
@smh0825 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately in the U.S it’s impossible to separate college and athletics. College sports is driven by one thing: money. Money from game day attendance and ratings from fans watching games at home. And fans like schools before they like the players. So once you separate players from schools the money from viewers isn’t there because the loyalty to schools is no longer necessary to drive viewership. “College” football without the college would collapse.
@nicholashenderlong812
@nicholashenderlong812 Месяц назад
Or look at the academy systems in Europe for football (soccer) and basketball. Prospects who can make it pro go there instead of college.
@jpm5205
@jpm5205 Месяц назад
@@danholmes2369 Your question only underscores the original poster’s point. If you sincerely are reducing the value of college to something that only produces professionals in a trade - truck drivers and professional athletes at that - then we are in desperate need of resetting higher-education. What a horrible time we are living in.
@skylerfloe227
@skylerfloe227 2 месяца назад
So colleges get to over charge for tuition, then turn around and say they don't need to pay athletes because look how much money the scholarships are worth? $80,000 a year to go to school. What a joke.
@danholmes2369
@danholmes2369 2 месяца назад
Well said: then guys like Wasserman can explain away NIL because he thinks they are getting enough in tuition. I love how Eisen doesn't challenge him on this point. We all know the "cost of college" is not a fixed, real-world thing. It is not tied to a set of numbers like how much the parts cost and how much it costs to heat a dorm, etc. It's almost completely made up, and the biggest, most popular schools can essentially charge whatever they want. And then corporate greed mongers like Wasserman can say "See? College football players are getting $80,000 per year!" Eisen is a good guy, but videos like this illustrate that he isn't a journalist.
@ericparker163
@ericparker163 2 месяца назад
400 kids in an auditorium classroom being taught by a professor making $80k a year.
@reidawg72
@reidawg72 2 месяца назад
It's refreshing to read your comment and the responses. This interview was, at best, a misrepresentation of the CFB landscape and, more generally, the broken system that is university education tuition. And, it's laughable the picture painted by the media claiming the pac12 somehow "couldn't keep up." The Pac12 failed bc the presidents and ADs were fools - and I'm being kind by leaving it at just "fools". They, literally, had half a dozen chances to remain "haves". It wasn't about what schools could "afford it" or having to compete with the SEC schools. The presidents and ADs thought ESPN and Fox "needed" the pac12 bc, as they said themselves, "we're the conference of champions." I followed this closely as it happened and the hubris and greed involved is staggering. The system is designed to continue this grift. The fact that education loans are bankruptcy-proof is evidence of that. Load a kid up with massive debt and send him into the world with a degree that often only matters if trying to get into grad school. While I did need a college degree to get my post grad education, if I had it to do all over again, I'd have skipped all that and gone straight to work after HS. I love CFB, but the system as it is now being run by the major networks, is broken. None of that money makes its way to lowering tuition. Instead, it's pumped into the athletic facilities while "regular students" pay more and more. The federal govt plan to forgive student debt isn't for the debtors. It's a govt bailout of the lending institutions. Just like 2008-09. When finance took over our economy, we were doomed for failure. The parasite can't be the host.
@nvo7
@nvo7 2 месяца назад
@@ericparker163 I remember sitting in a lecture hall at OSU packed with so many students that kids were sitting in the aisles during the lecture because all the seats were taken.
@renlysotherlover294
@renlysotherlover294 2 месяца назад
@@reidawg72Even more a joke when you look at these billion dollar endowments these schools have and their plays in hedge funds like the whole thing is broken
@AdamKlawonn
@AdamKlawonn 2 месяца назад
Great interview, Rich & Co. More like this, please!
@marklentz1095
@marklentz1095 2 месяца назад
Football should be spun off by universities to their own corporate entity. This gets you away from Title IX. Then you basically lease your current stadium and facilities to the new corporation. Essentially, you have sports teams that happen to play on university campuses. Universities can still thus utilize the presence of X football team as a recruiting/alumni tool for general student population. Football players become fully paid employees. Allow to play at said "school" for as long as they like. "College" football can then monetize players by selling their contracts to NFL, ala international soccer. As for Olympic sports, they should simply be given over completely to an academy system. Think international football. Heck, gymnastics already does this. Hockey does to an extent. There's literally no reason why a state university, in particular, should be concerned with creating track or water polo athletes.
@Mrqq-jx2ox
@Mrqq-jx2ox 2 месяца назад
Students are already employees in a lot of other capacities like in foodservice, reception and assistant positions, in fact there has already been strikes here and union fights in California for that already which I’m surprised Rich hasn’t noticed. These are students but they are also employed adults and it’s foolish and naive to try and act like those things are mutually exclusive, they are not.
@WMusick
@WMusick 2 месяца назад
California is on another dimension from the rest of the states. Please know that.
@ucfqb
@ucfqb 2 месяца назад
I probably spent too much time watching college football anyway. This would be a good stopping point.
@WMusick
@WMusick 2 месяца назад
...and with this generation of kids being our least prepared academically in our nation's history, and not prepared for the current and coming jobs market, not a word about the education of these athletes at these higher educational institutions. Disgusting.
@gpc_4279
@gpc_4279 2 месяца назад
Except the guest did talk about it.
@Theiliteritesbian
@Theiliteritesbian 2 месяца назад
Ya it's a sports show. Uk...fun. Following sports is fun. U listen on your way home from work.
@mitchellmelbon3328
@mitchellmelbon3328 Месяц назад
Let's goooo Bruins!
@stevenkidd6761
@stevenkidd6761 2 месяца назад
Boiler Up 🔨🔨🔨 I have a legit reason to go to LA a couple of times a year 💪😎
@jpm5205
@jpm5205 2 месяца назад
"Extra $40 million year..." okay, but that's not the point of college athletics. Priorities are all messed up. Taxpayers/parents/students should pay taxes and tuition for education and scholarship...not to capitalize some professional sports franchise. Conference realignment/NIL out of control media contracts and coach salaries just underscore the postmodern societal rot of higher-education and our country in general.
@shallojalloh
@shallojalloh 2 месяца назад
No true..you are trying to romanticize things my guy
@jpm5205
@jpm5205 2 месяца назад
@@shallojalloh ??? Do you even know what “romanticize” means? From your comment I don’t believe you do.
@shallojalloh
@shallojalloh 2 месяца назад
@jpm5205 | You are blabbering about the point of college athletics. The point is to make money.. It's a business. Point Blank period. Get outta yo feelings my guy, that's a female trait. If you don't like the way college football is headed, go watch lacrosse or some other non revenue generating sport. Noone is forcing you to watch or even care about college football.
@jpm5205
@jpm5205 2 месяца назад
@@shallojalloh “Get outta yo feelings my guy, that’s a female trait.” 😂
@primafacie9721
@primafacie9721 2 месяца назад
College football athletes finally received their long overdue small share of the college football financial pie, but given what college football is becoming why should I watch the second best pro football league in the nation?
@teacherl8330
@teacherl8330 2 месяца назад
F "the same"....be "truly parochial" as the guest says. "Do they monitize...?" NIL is subsidizing other sports. Indeed.
@crwmdp9
@crwmdp9 2 месяца назад
He brings up manny points that need to be addressed
@gregjames9875
@gregjames9875 Месяц назад
In my opinion, NIL will cause the teams that are in major metropolitan areas over the next 5 to 10 years to become perennial national contenders. Those who are in rural areas, like Clemson and Alabama, will slowly fall off into college football purgatory.
@danholmes2369
@danholmes2369 2 месяца назад
Maybe, MAYBE Rich was thinking a lot of things he didn't voice, but his failure to challenge Wasserman on anything is embarrassing. First, Wasserman was wrong about a few things, and second Wasserman makes assertions that are outrageous. Like, "You can't have employees being taught by employees..." Wasserman is clearly speaking for the ownership class, for the keepers of sports, for the front office, for the wealthy. The Haves. He grossly undervalues the product of college football, and frankly misunderstands it. Without the players, the sport doesn't work. And his solution is "Education should be their compensation." Wasserman is clearly in the camp of those clinging to the cherished memory of that time when "amateur athletes were amateurs playing for pure reasons." Hogwash. The universities make billions off the performance of athletes. To say "we're undervaluing education" by trying to shift SOME of that revenue with players, is an absurd and elitist opinion. You think $13 million to pay football players hurts OSU? It's a rounding error to their overall budget. Wasserman wants unpaid employees to make loads of money for the schools. I can see why he's failed at business so many times: he pines for the 1920s.
@z0mb1e564
@z0mb1e564 2 месяца назад
100%
@jeffmansell898
@jeffmansell898 Месяц назад
Yes Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana, Illinois, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, Arkansas, So Carolina, UCLA they are the haves. Just rubbish. 7-10 total programs are the haves and the rest are all not the haves. Commissioners have destroyed collage football.
@litedawg
@litedawg 2 месяца назад
This is a good guest , he breaks it down very well.
@stevenkidd6761
@stevenkidd6761 2 месяца назад
The non-revenue sports and other scholarship supoort programs will become club status. A minimum wage plus the costs of the trainers, dietitians, compliance officers, HR staff, etc will be the 1rst cut.
@irishseven100
@irishseven100 2 месяца назад
I thought the purpose of going to college was to prepare yourself to get a decent paying job. So are not these kids already getting a fair pay job at these schools???.
@Bellew2k7
@Bellew2k7 2 месяца назад
let me give you an opinion from an irish NFL fan. I believe the NIL will create a system of college football whereby the biggest spenders will win the national football championship. In reality i believe the players on those teams should chase the money themselves that they can make subsequent to playing on the football field. therefore, lets take Caleb Williams for example, USC does not pay him 2-3-5-10 million dollars for joining their programme. he joins solely joins on merit. But Caleb must register and record all money made via his playing status and give a homogenous 20% to charity of his choice. you then create a board which monitors the deals that these student's get and make sure they don't impede financial fair play. so if 'for example caleb is found to have a sponsorship deal with southern California insurance, and the owner of suh brand has multiple tie USC, it immediately raises a red flag and negatively county towards Calibs charity percentage. Now i get it, this creates a system of who is telling the truth, but in reality this is the american system as a whole. In order to create a fair system of paying people whilst maintainig competeition one must reject all forms of bribery.
@CompGeekDE
@CompGeekDE 2 месяца назад
That was the best explanation i've ever heard regarding modern collegiate athletics!
@tidmarshXC
@tidmarshXC 2 месяца назад
This is going to kill the sport. What's the purpose of watching a lesser version of the NFL when the NFL exists? Just separate the football teams from the universities at this point. Make it a true developmental league for the NFL, since that's pretty much what it's become.
@barbeonline351
@barbeonline351 2 месяца назад
So time for a four NCAA Division. 1A, 1B, 2, and 3 Or maybe we just peel off the SEC/Big 10 and call them NFL minor league programs?
@JeremyKasperson
@JeremyKasperson 2 месяца назад
Why did you have him as a guest? Half of the things he said are outright false. What a waste of time!
@Bolttoast
@Bolttoast 2 месяца назад
This dude would probably vote for a 7 day work week. What a clown. 😂
@nickh2935
@nickh2935 2 месяца назад
He probably seriously thinks Elon Musk is a genius. That’s the vibe I get from this guy
@Bolttoast
@Bolttoast 2 месяца назад
@@nickh2935 was it the crossed legged, beard, or sneakers?
@losthighway4840
@losthighway4840 Месяц назад
This is a really dumb take for the following reasons: 1) it’s much worst to be a bottom feeder in the b10/sec than competing in another conference 2) NIL still determines recruiting, which is completely separate from tv revenue 3) facilities/coaching salaries are already maxed out in the current system and doesn’t help recruiting anymore (see 2) 4) since when is $40m a lot of money and worth doing this when it doesn’t solve the above 3? You could give Purdue $1b a year and they wouldn’t compete in football.
@r3tr0actiongamer24
@r3tr0actiongamer24 2 месяца назад
Way to ruin college sports. As if it weren’t watchable before
@gregjames9875
@gregjames9875 Месяц назад
$2,000/month for scholarship players.
@user-wp3cy3fl2j
@user-wp3cy3fl2j 2 месяца назад
This is not the golden age of college football coming. The golden age of college football is over. Money has once again corrupted amateur sports and has taken over. No longer will sports teach teamwork, honor, loyalty and fortitude. The damage has already begun an is massive. One of the most storied conferences in college football, the Pacific Coast Conference will be gone next year and kids are quitting their teams and transferring when times are tough or there’s more money to be made. Many don’t realize what we’re losing and won’t until its gone. Sadly, that is the history of man. Greed wins, humanity
@juniorpolanco3836
@juniorpolanco3836 2 месяца назад
its cute that this guy thinks Michigan and OSU players are going to class
@nvo7
@nvo7 2 месяца назад
🤣 As a Buckeye, us non-football students didn't even go class that week. I remember classes on friday before the Game being canceled in most cases.
@juniorpolanco3836
@juniorpolanco3836 2 месяца назад
@@nvo7
@z0mb1e564
@z0mb1e564 2 месяца назад
Wasserman strawmans the students. Even if we accept that tuition is worth $80k per year, that's for a student who can make full use of the college and it's facilities. How many hours a week are these athletes effectively required to spend making themselves competitive? Weight room, practices, travel, etc. The athletes are not getting the full experience because they have to spend so much of their time working on their, in the case of the Big 10 and SEC, probable careers. Then he says let them earn money, but let the schools keep it (and I'm sure keep the interest they make while holding that money) until they graduate? Then he throws "think of the Olympic sports" as a further defense but the VAST majority of Olympic athletes aren't going to make significant money off of college sports. It's just a couple of big sports like football and basketball where that comment would even be relevant and American football isn't part of the Olympics and they let pros play in Olympic Basketball. He's just a stooge for the colleges trying to keep all the money and power in their own hands. Honestly massively disappointed in Rich and his team for hosting this guy without nailing him to the wall for his BS.
@nvo7
@nvo7 2 месяца назад
"The athletes are not getting the full experience because they have to spend so much of their time working on their, in the case of the Big 10 and SEC, probable careers." -- As a Buckeye, I've always felt a little bad for guys like Justin Fields. Love him. Glad he came to OSU. He's a legend. But I remember reading that all his classes were online and he was never on campus. Fully focused on football and his future. I thought "he's never going to return to Columbus have 'memories' of his time as a student." He didn't hit High Street on a Wednesday night, didn't cross the Oval, etc. etc. He didn't pick OSU for any personal reasons; it was purely a business decision. Again, love him. He's a Buckeye legend, but this is the reality of CFB today - teenagers making million dollar business decisions.
@WhosBosko
@WhosBosko 2 месяца назад
I agree in part but the solution is to limit training and practice. Treating these kids like football is there job is robbing most of them from the real value of a college education. Most of these guys don’t go pro so the university needs to be held accountable and ensure their student athletes are given an education so they can have a future.
@stork412
@stork412 2 месяца назад
hate to see it
@JohnScott-JacobiteBee
@JohnScott-JacobiteBee 2 месяца назад
Why pay for the nonsense sports? Spin football off entirely.
@JohnScott-JacobiteBee
@JohnScott-JacobiteBee 2 месяца назад
As an addendum, who cares about the Olympics?
@casteine
@casteine 2 месяца назад
I'm a Buckeye fan and let me say this we have most or 2nd most college sports and about 90% don't make a dime, like the rifle team. It's football that literally pays for everything and we can't get new football...go figure facility.
@bobbullethalf
@bobbullethalf 2 месяца назад
The Olympic sports on the college level should be the most important thing on college campuses. The throwers, the sprinters, the long distance runners, the pole vaulters, etc. they need to be taken care of the most because of their overall commitment and competitiveness level.
@virginianative847
@virginianative847 2 месяца назад
And I think the ACC could add some more teams and that would be your Big 3. ACC, Big Ten, and SEC.
@ucfqb
@ucfqb 2 месяца назад
Lol
@troywest7045
@troywest7045 Месяц назад
The ACC is done! That media deal is a killer, till 2036 they will be making a fraction of the power 2. Better for them to just jump to whoever could take them and let the lawyers figure it out.
@virginianative847
@virginianative847 2 месяца назад
I’m so glad players are getting paid, and the schools can’t stand it, these athletes have brought in so much money for the schools and they deserve every penny they get and I love it. And it’s good for the game makes it crazy interesting.
@markd.5471
@markd.5471 2 месяца назад
Greed ruined college football.
@swchri1264
@swchri1264 2 месяца назад
This guy is all over the place, comes across mostly clueless
@yup2393
@yup2393 Месяц назад
This guy is a clown
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