@@glitchdragonmasterdxd17th19 in my opinion Happiest day is for Cassidy. They just used by victims memories as a way to reference the event that happened in 83 . The controller behind UCN is Andrew. Toy chica, anime cut scenes shows that she killed 7 people not six since in the first cut scene she has a foxy hook in her book bag, which is definitely Charlie the other 5 are the Mci kids, so the 6 Has to be Andrew . Curse of dreadbear has a secret with eight graves around a purple one, and I don’t even want to get into who the 8 victim would logically be . Mangle and chica treat the one you should not have killed like he’s some sort of rarity and I wouldn’t really work for Cassidy because they’re around the MCI kids all the time they’re literally a team with the same goal . The one you should not have killed, and William are actually meant the same. William hated Henry and Andrew hated William and they both do things to make the other suffer. . Midnight motorist might actually be about William kidnapping Andrew. . And of course, the most famous one everyone calls the one you should not have killed that he.
Despite zero evidence for CC to actually inhabit Golden Freddy? You know, the one thing we don’t see throughout all of the medias and merchandise, we only, and only ever see one ghost? GoldenDuo is cute as a Headcanon but it is not canon.
Castermind is such a funny name. But I am in love with the idea that FNaF 4 minigames being a memory loop. Being unable to see... Completely blind... Is his soul INSIDE THE BOX? Neither Alive nor dead? Schrödinger's BV?
Wait, you're actually into something, the idea of the box being a representation of the Schrodinger's box in which CC's spirit is in a limbo between the two worlds, the physical and the spiritual, is something that would make a lot of sense and I don't doubt Scott thought about rhat originally. Well done!
@@jokiquinn I dabble in datamining. (Hence my username) FNaF 4 was supposed to have a night 9 in that box- empty placeholder "deep9". It would have probably been an alternate ending if FNaF 3 and SL are any indication. FNaF 2- you couldn't change the outcome. FNaF 3 gave us a good and bad ending. SL had a real and fake ending. I think we have been in the bad timeline all along, but paradoxically the story can't progress without the good timeline. Which is why the answer to FNaF 3's canon ending "is complex". Because in the good timeline, something shifted to where *Golden Freddy never was haunted at all*. That is why the mask is absent altogether. Your idea about the minigames in 4 being memories/simulated makes perfect sense under that and was something I struggled with explaining. (Ever watch the movie The Sixth Sense?) The FNaF movie has only solidified this idea in my mind that the 'alternate timeline' is an altered dream/memory state.
FrightsClues is actually the best way to use the Frights tales IMO, the books bring concepts like agony, remnant and double possession for us to know this concepts exist in the games too. Golden Freddy and so does Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare having a lot of connections with heads/brain for me is a representation that CC has some influence in it.
Hey, again! I just wanna call out that the idea the minigames memories being altered is so perfect and cool and a huge W theory. You are Goated, Jokiquinn.
FrightsClues is kinda just the way I've been using the books the entire time, I never considered it to be a a separate take, but it definitely feels like the cleanest way to use the books. As for Golden 1.5, that's kind of just how GoldenDuo has always been, Cassidy's in control and CC's just along for the ride. I'm somewhat hesitant to go with the idea of Cassidy peering into CC's memories through the plush in FNAF 4 because of how many times Afton quotes it, but the idea does work and makes perfect sense. (Probably also doesn't help that I'm attached to the idea of the bite of 83 creating Nightmare in the Fredbear Plush, and then it traps him in Fredbear, complicating this little fucker even further)
Golden Freddy becomes a giant head to attack you because Bite Victim and Cassidy, being little kids, genuinely thought that was scarier than just being a limp, lifeless husk monster.
I heard the reason golden Freddy becomes a giant head is because of bite victim has a memory of Fred bear without a head in the storage room he was stuck in so that’s why
Think that somehow CC’s memories got split across the MCI having Cassidy have the memories mentioned in the logbook. Also if this was true, it would also explain happiest day. In the fourth closet Carlton puts the kid’s memories back together for the move on. What if the same thing applies to the games but it’s the missing kids coming together with CC’s memories to help him move on. They have to “put the pieces together” the pieces being his memories.
I watched a french video theorizing that Cassidy and CC are actually the same character and that written words/glitchbear is Charlie, so watching this now is giving me severe whiplash lol Those concepts are super interesting, though I might have to rewatch tomorrow to really take them in because I feel like I'm gonna crash at any moment qwq Honestly I'm at this point where I sorta believe a lot of different theories that contradict each other, the lore is sooo jumbled confusing DX
Thats a really good theory, I believe thematically and evidence wise goldenduo or golden 1.5 or whatever u wanna call it makes more sense, but the fact that the physical fredbear plush has the ''possessed eyes'' just like the fnaf 1 animatronics is a pretty interesting piece of evidence
Over time, I started thinking about a different version of GoldenDuo/1.5, where Cassidy is Golden Freddy, the ghostly apparition, while the Bite Victim is the physical Fredbear suit. I haven't figured out all the details yet, but it can sorta kinda explain why Fredbear attacks you when you use the Death Coin on Golden Freddy in UCN.
Using Frights as clues like you do is imo the right way to do it, and makes things a lot easier than just trying to connect random characters from different continuities
5:34 finally someone who has my interpretation says it, an opinion that for all intents and purposes should be what book involved theories should expect (with obvious exceptions). Thank you for finally saying it
Taking the books aside, I’ve had a theory about the Mimic’s origins for a really long time. I don’t know if it’s true, but I’d at least like to hear other people talk about it. In FNAF 4, William Afton is presumed to be the one telling his son “I will put you back together”. Despite that, we never see him actually try it. At the same time, we have the mimic, a copycat killer that, when broken and given agony by its creator, followed in Afton’s footsteps specifically. We know that William Afton is obsessed with control, as well as bringing back his dead kids, as seen with Baby. Lastly, we can infer that the Mimic, and the AI that seems to stem from it, specifically focus on recreating the Aftons, as seen in the Post-it Room in the Pizzaplex sewers. What if William Afton built the Mimic? It would certainly be in character for him to do so, and the mimic being linked to William so much would make a lot more sense. William could have built the underground lab and M.X.E.S console that we see under the FNAF 6 location (which we’ve been theorizing could have previously been Fredbear’s Family Diner) at a time when FFD was still open, shortly after the crying child’s death. To that extent, the mimic lab would have been where William first experimented with subterranean locations, AI programming, and the scooper, all things he would later use for Circus Baby’s Pizza World. The scene between Edwin and the mimic, where the mimic is shown holding the Tiger plushie and causes Edwin to break the machine in anger, could have easily happened between William and the mimic too. I mean, the plushie could have been the Fredbear plush that the crying child was known to hold, and that William evident kept with him all the way up to the building of Circus Baby’s rentals. In turn, William breaking the mimic out of anger produces two monsters: one that began his destruction of life with a seemingly emotionless robot, and one that, after infused with those same murderous thoughts through agony, would lead a similar legacy long after the first monster’s death. Even after William was trapped in purgatory, the mimic promised that he would always come back, through a being that reflected his own violent nature. But wait, there’s more! I and a lot of other people have been suspecting that our newest protagonist Jeremy was one of the bullies involved in the Bite of 83, the same event that would lead to the mimic’s creation. Under this theory, our current protagonist and antagonist are connected by a common event, which could easily lead to stronger stories possibilities later down the line (assuming we see more Jeremy, it’s currently up in the air in that regard). But perhaps the most interesting detail is one that’s been staring us in the face all along. When Cassie first meets the mimic in its true form, she asks “who are you?”. The mimic simply repeats “I’m Gregory”. Sure, this line is to build up suspense and has an obvious role in the story. But perhaps there’s something more to that line. Gregory as a character has been presented as a mirror of the crying child, at least on a symbolic level as evident with the hillside images in the Princess Quest and Burntrap endings (I’m leaving the robot Gregory discussion out of this one). What if, through their shared connection to the crying child, Gregory and the mimic had a lot more in common than we thought. What if the mimic really meant it when it said “I’m Gregory”? Please, if anybody sees this, feel free to respond to this post. I really just want more people to think about this, because I have the feeling it might change where we see FNAF’s story heading in the future.
Except William never built the Mimic? We literally get a full on explanation for the Mimic, that he’s a caretaker for Murray and when the child dies in an accident with a car, Murray beats the ever loving-fuck out of the Mimic. There is no parallel, there is no side by side comparison. William never built the Mimic for his son because he never cared for any of his children.
@@2bboe98 I think the biggest misconception in Fnaf is the idea that William loves his family. Even though I don’t think midnight motor is William that is definitely not true The fourth closet shows him not caring about Elizabeth at all and in the movie he literally puts Vanessa in the hospital and it’s basically confirmed. He abused her the moment she found out about the MCI because she was petrified of him. Also to add in the fourth closet, the main character difference between William and Henry is that Henry actually is able to love things while William isn’t.
@@2bboe98 Murray’s story only happens in the books, we don’t have any confirmation of his existence in the games as of now. And yes, I don’t think William was a good father to his kids, but I do think he felt overly protective of his kids as his “property”. He tells Micheal to put his sister back together because he knows he can control Elizabeth, and that bringing her back will reignite some extent of the control he craves. William is a narcissist, and if has a family who listens to him then that narcissism can be fed. I could easily see a similar situation happening with the Crying child, or at least the replica of him.
William is 100% not the person who says I will put you back together. I’m pretty sure it’s the puppet/Charlie. The text color change is what sells this for me? I know this is a crazy idea, but what if the mimic is just one-to-one from the one in the books. Like what if Edwin just you know existed in the games his son got cooked by a car and then he beat up the mimic and started his whole character
I have a little theory to share, you know the toy chica's high school years theory with the fox hook representing the vengeful being a secret 7th victim, well following that same logic then the vengeful spirit is also the first victim
Is the Crying Child trapped in a loop? Is there a reason we get the "countdown" framing? Perhaps it suggests it's a loop, meaning the bite victim knows already what happens and he is crying because he knows that every day is another day leading up to his death [again].
This is actually one of the darkest takes a Fnaf 4 the idea the crying child is only the way he is because he’s in the loop is terrifying. Although this makes you ask the question how did he get stuck in a loop.
@@Sonicmid The Bite Victim died and that's just how it started; he couldn't pass on, like the others also trapped in their own strange little bubbles of reality (FNAF3). His " arcade bubble" is the last week of his life, looping over and over. He becomes the Crying Child inside of this digital 8-bit world, until he is saved from the loop by Happiest Day, when some external force breaks through and gives him a Birthday that does not end in death, but release from the cycle instead.
I guess I could say I used "FrightsClues" since I compared the death of Pete with the Crying Child's coma. They both go through the same kind of state basically. They're able to hear things from the outside, able to see things outside with only a small bit of light coming from outside into the void that the person is in. People think too much of the Fredbear plush. Michael literally talks to the Crying Child while the plushies are there, does that mean he's one of them? Clearly not. People don't believe he's speaking in form of one of the plushies. I believe what the Crying Child hears at Fredbear's is a delusion since the Fredbear plush is not there and it's because the continuous taunting and stalking by his "loving" father just drove him insane so he thought he heard the plush speak to him, yet it's clearly not the case. I personally believe both WillPlush and WillFinalSpeaker with WillPlush = recordings we see William use on Rory, WillFinalSpeaker = real William talking to him which is the reason why the yellow is just slightly differently shaded, because they're the same speaker, just in different form. Like for crying out loud, no pun intended, "Toy Chica: The High School Years" in UCN is paralleled to William and his victims, and at the end of that anime Toy Chica says: "But tomorrow is another day!". On the topic of the Crying Child possessing Golden Freddy? I'm confused on how it works too. It feels fitting yet whatever happened, under the theory, had to have happened off-screen.
The fnaf4 minigame is a retelling, not the events as and when they happened. Cassidy being the plush makes more sense than anyone else going by their lines, because it's not the original, physical object we see in fnaf4. CC never responds to her in the minigame, which explains why they're communicating through the logbook, and that she chooses a familiar form in the plush to try to get through to him. Note that this theory doesn't *have* to be combined with willplush or used as an explanation for the toys and mangle, either.
CC had his head crushed by Fredbear, it's full of his blood and tissue and it's the source of his trauma. If he's haunting anything, it would be Fredbear. There's also the use of "it's me" changed text as early in the games as fnaf1, both if which are now associated with CC and GF. Possession and remmant are connected, but we're shown that they're different. Things can be animated by remnant, but the souls of the children are in the amimatronics. The memory imprinting is more of a novel thing with Charlie, who's a recreation rather than a spirit.
5:34 The problem is Jake the bite victim parallel, is in control and the supposed cassidy parallel/Clue isn't. Which makes things not make any sense, especially since bv would have been in the suit longer
Well in this video I'm specifically not doing character parallels so that's a non-factor. Clue's isn't just a name swap for parallels and this is exactly why. Jake is not the bite vicitm nor cassidy nor anyone other than Jake. Jake is a character who proves this idea is possible- and we're looking to the classic games to see if there's any instances of the mechanics or concepts at play happening.
@@SuperStar-ss1pn yeah, my fault I don’t believe he’s a bite victim parallel. The characters are completely different and have completely different stories.
9:51 Why would she randomly pull him out and then put him back in again?? What point is that, also what point dose charlie have in the narrative if cassidy did everything, why didn’t she just free him herself or just free everyone?? Is she stupid?
I'm not saying Cassidy pulls him in and out constantly- more that this was a one off thing mostly for learning his past- the time loop framing was more a way to explain the concept. Charlie is still relevant- especially under vengeful cassidy this is more just enabling an event rather than being in it first hand- like telling someone how to set up a party and giving them money to do so.
I think the simplest (Or not that simplest, but the most satisfying) solution for your "Where's CC in all of this?" dilemma; is ShatterVictim. The theory mostly varies on how each person understands it, but, in my interpretation, CC's spirit is in many animatronics. When CC was bullied and tormented by Michael and the Fredbear Plush, his agony infected many objects. When he dies, as represented by the Plushies disappearing, pieces of himself went to inhabit the animatronics; his friends. So, if his pieces are parts of his soul, that are now inhabiting the animatronics, then parts of him would be possessing all the animatronics. One of them being Golden Freddy. So it would be Golden1.5, because there's a piece of BV possessing GF. He is in a void because his spirit is so broken that not only his memories begin to split, but also his senses and awareness. So that'd be my explaination. I've heard people call it... ShatterDuo (?).
ShatterVicitm has fallen apart to me by almost every metric. It doesn't satisfy the narrative, the logic behind it, or even just loose implication or even book based lore. To me it wasn't even worth putting in the video.
I feel like the evidence for ShatterVictim makes perfect sense and is hard to argue with, but everything else about it is just so complicated and poorly explained. First, why does he shatter? The precedent is set by Andrew, but he only shatters when Afton exploded, CC allegedly just does it when he dies for some reason. Second, if you think GoldenDuo has problems due to him dying in a hospital, then ShatterVictim is so much worse in that regard. Finally, it's just so goddamn confusing, even by FNAF standards.
@@randomrhino4371 He shatters because bullying and abuse are not something easy to deal with, specially when you're not older than 10. His spirit broke by all the abuse he was handling. And i don't think it has "so many" issues as GoldenDuo. Because that agony, a shard of his soul, was already in GF (And the other animatronics) before he died, so he possessed him after dying. I'ts fair to say it's confusing. It's not to me. But i understand why it is for other people. But didn't you said you were using FrightsClues? Why should it be the same as Andrew is we are just using it as a clue?
@@siresquawks The narrative of ShatterVictim is actually what made me believe it. And it does have book evidence, it's basically what The Silver Eyes it's all about. It would explain why the FNAF 4 minigames forshadow basically everything in the franchise, why is there so much emphasis on "putting him back together". Why would he need to be put bak together if his spirit was not split apart in the first place? It would explain why he's so intrinsically connected to the MCI spirits in the HD minigames. It just explains so much while creating a (Only imo) satisfying narrative that's so present around all the games.
I think shatter victim is an amazing theory. The only problem I have with it is why does Garrett crying child Norman, whatever you wanna call him death somehow have a whole effect on the timeline but the other 12 kids (this includes Andrew) that got brutally murdered and manipulated don’t also, since the MCI takes place two years after his death how did he get his memories implanted into those kids. Were they like Destin to get the memories or something and why don’t the DCI count. ( shatter victim would’ve been a peak narrative if the Fnaf 4 kids/Bv friends minus Freddy bully, where the MCI instead of some random kids)
Glitch fredbear is Elizabeth it's revealed obviously when desk man die She manipulated Cassidy in FNAF world to send clue in FNAF3 follow me mini game for Mike And that happiest day isnt happy at all, it's piece put together to revive WIlliam Afton He trapped in fakewall, he can just left that place if he want to, but he just springtrap animatronic not William yet After FNAF3 and come back with full picture he escape and become the british William Afton we know in FNAF6 Molten stuff can be happen after FNAF3 I dont care
Elizabeth never acknowledges her other brother in the entire series though. Also be weird for her to say I will put you back together only to then get distracted by the clown robot.
@@Sonicmid idk where this "Elizabeth never acknowledges her other brother" come from. But from the sister room at fnaf 4 scene, pretty sure she know about him and his death. FNAF 4 crying child scene obviously happen in the past, but the last scene with light yellow text can be happen anytime depends on who do you think it is. Like someone dream about the memory of past and then the last part the conclusion of it. If this happen just after bite, there's no reason for William already kill anyone before this bite 83 and William also dont have info about soul possession yet at this point. He know it after killing charlotte with crying child death as reason or after killing MCI atleast. There's also no reason for any dead childern to say something like that to crying child before his death. But if this "I will put you back together" happen at FNAF 4 dream, then it can be anyone that already dead but have reason to save him (William(family), Charllotte(nature), Cassidy(friend), or Elizabeth(family)). William stuck in fake wall at this point. Cassidy not even in happiest day at the end fnaf 3 and asking "Is he(fredplush) still talking to you?" means it's not her. At the end, it's Charlotte(3yo kid) fredplush which is weird, or Elizabeth fredplush with her manipulating and pretending skill. You can also look all the text glitch fredbear say in ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-f1J7qkaUWW0.html and think for a moment who will speak like that to fnaf world player.
Frightsclues is cool, but I dead ass think Andrew is Cannon to the series he just fits the vengeful spirit way better than Cassidy in my opinion. And it’s been really implied that William killed 7 kids not just 6 And I know this is gonna be controversial, but I don’t think golden Freddy has two spirits, I agree with the idea bite victim has a piece of him in core five of the animatronics (rest in peace the DCI will never be important to the story) So basically, I think bite victim is Funtime and molten Freddy
@@gaminganimators7000 unfortunately yes actually they’re just kind of another kid only difference is that they can teleport unlike the others. most head cannons about them while really cool are kind of just that. There’s no real proof that Cassidy’s extremely hateful or anything.
My current theory is that Cassidy is the name of BV and Andrew is the name of the 5th MCI kid. We just mixed up the names in the logbook. It would actually explain a *lot.*
@@thekingslayer2178 even though I look like that we got confirmation in the fourth closet that Cassidy was an MCI victim. Though it is strange how, when every single other continuity golden Freddy isn’t Cassidy. And I’m 100% sure their name is not going to be Cassidy in the movieverse
@@Sonicmid wait I thought you dont believe in cc doesn't possess anything in your interruption why is he funtime freddy and ennard/molten freddy apparently
Shadow Freddy is born of William’s wickedness Nightmare (who is shadow Freddy like it’s literally in the files and has stayed there) He is agony He is not physical He cannot be possessed Golden Freddy is an actual suit He’s not
I mean he could probably just for me 1) why isn't rwq possessed 2) why Freddy and not fredbear 3) i think shadow Freddy stand is compelling 4) it's just kind of lame he does nothing in the story 5) if you are to believe nightmare is shadow Freddy why is the bite victim one of the enemies in Michael's dream 6) where does he end up is he freed in fnaf3 because that feels weird, admittedly golden!bv doesn't resolve this either 7) shadow Freddy isn't really shown to be scared? Interesting idea though
@@SCP-469 meh I don't like taking file names for granted as a premise but I do believe the theory, however especially given shadow Freddy being bv op might not think so for whatever reason
I watched a french video theorizing that Cassidy and CC are actually the same character and that written words/Glitchbear is Charlie, so watching this now is giving me severe whiplash lol Those concept are super interesting, though I might have to rewatch tomorrow to really process them, I feel like I'm gonna crash at any moment qwq Honestly I'm at this point where I sorta believe a lot of different theories that contradict each other, the lore is sooo jumbled and confusing DX
