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Casting Polyurethane Motor Mount Bushings with Liquid Urethane & 3D Printed Mold (Scion tC2 / tC2.5) 

Derrick Aquino
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@EnergeticWaves
@EnergeticWaves 4 года назад
Isn't it fun all these great toys they invent for us to play with.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
It's very handy. My girlfriend and I are thinking of getting a laser next and possibly a resin printer for future (non-car related) projects.
@-smp-scientificmethodpersp838
@-smp-scientificmethodpersp838 4 года назад
This is the coolest method I've seen.
@SakeBarSushi
@SakeBarSushi Год назад
As I am watching this I am 3D printing a custom gearbox mount for my Volt. I am using TPU 95A with 40% hexagon infill and 5 shells plus 5 bottom and top layers. I just did a web search and it seems that TPU 95A may have not been available at the time of this video. It is amazing how 3D printing has revolutionized the DIY engineering scene. Great video!
@nickstewartroc
@nickstewartroc 4 года назад
Thanks dude, this is great! Subscribed
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 6 месяцев назад
You normally dont need to destroy the moulds, just squirt some compressed air down the sides and the rubber part will pop out. If it is hard to get down the side drill a tiny pinhole in the bottom and squirt the air in the pinhole, then the pinhole can be covered witn sticky tape for the next mould use.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 6 месяцев назад
The mold would definitely need to be printed thicker for that.
@drrock5356
@drrock5356 Год назад
Another good variable to check is how much the engine moves when you load the drivetrain. Pop the hood, start the car and put it in drive (in an automatic), but hold the brake with one foot, and give it some throttle (so the car doesn't move!). Note how much the engine rotates as it revs.
@BedazzledChanclas
@BedazzledChanclas 4 года назад
This is pretty badass
@jasonriley8977
@jasonriley8977 3 года назад
Hi if you drill a small hole in the bottom of the mould and use compressed air they’ll remove much easier
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
Thanks for the tip!
@WandersOfficial
@WandersOfficial 4 года назад
great job man..great video... good to hear he comparison.
@emailformosa
@emailformosa 5 месяцев назад
You can use PVA (which is a water soluble support filament) to print the molds. After casting you can dissolve the mold away from the casting with water.
@sreethampan
@sreethampan 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing the information
@myamazinglittleworld5673
@myamazinglittleworld5673 2 года назад
Great video, great info, subscribed.
@mainsfortes5778
@mainsfortes5778 2 года назад
Brilliant !
@trosslv
@trosslv 3 года назад
Nice explanation and presentation. Thanks.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
Thank you!
@cbpuzzle
@cbpuzzle 7 дней назад
I need to do this for four 12in wheels in a 5 piece printed mold that I made to cast around aluminum pit bike wheels. PU looks thick and gloppy. Air bubbles are gonna be a big issue. Ugh :( Wish me luck.
@kush_tography7960
@kush_tography7960 3 года назад
I know this is an older video but the poly set up like that because of the 170 degree temp. I'm surprised the can even suggest to get it that hot. The hotter you heat it up, the faster it sets up. I would went with about 150. Also, if you have an air compressor, those will pop right out the mold with a little air blast.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
It's my first time working with the stuff, so I was just following the instructions as close as possible. You're the second person to recommend using an air compressor, which I do have. If I have to make more in the future, I'll remember that.
@617Sage
@617Sage Год назад
Hey great vid do you have somewhere we can talk business I’m looking too pay you for fabricating mounts for my car if something your interested in please let me know
@johnkaing98
@johnkaing98 4 года назад
Great job! Subscribed.
@cobra3289
@cobra3289 Год назад
When you have a bushing, its much easier to make a silicon mold from it, much less work, the 3d printer is for making master pieces.
@innersu
@innersu 4 года назад
I’m waiting for that original filled motor mount video and results. I don’t know if you are up to making it a business but I would buy a new one done from you. If any other viewer are up to buying them please reply to this post so we motivate him selling them to us.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
I just need to edit it together and then actually swap in the mount to test it, but I've been busy this week. I promise I'll have it up soon. As for selling them, the only issues are that I would need to test it to make sure there are no issues and I would need a mount to fill. Also, you need to use the entire contents of the can of urethane to have the proper mixing ratio, so that would be a huge waste for one mount only.
@innersu
@innersu 4 года назад
Derrick Aquino I can ask my crew and we can make a list here on RU-vid if anyone is up to. We send you the money in advance. Lest wait for the video and then we can make work around the how to.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
@@innersu how many other gen2 tC owners are in your group?
@innersu
@innersu 4 года назад
Derrick Aquino Lats meet was like 55. And still adding more. tc2 must be like 35 to 40.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
@@innersu I know like 2 other gen2 tC owners near me. Lol.
@icashADDICT
@icashADDICT 2 года назад
pretty cool
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 2 года назад
Also cool is being able to 3D print shock mount bushings.
@francisheusner7646
@francisheusner7646 Год назад
Polyurethane bushings . I don’t know how you can make the mounds in Bz.
@xaimeglez74
@xaimeglez74 7 месяцев назад
Just saw your video, very cool stuff!!!
@madforit9661
@madforit9661 4 года назад
Clever stuff
@Michaelhood0
@Michaelhood0 Год назад
Is urethane and polyurethane different metrial? Looking for good cost affective places to buy polyurethane for bushing casting
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
They're the same thing.
@AUTOSARTID
@AUTOSARTID Год назад
Sir would you tell how long casting should inside microwave and temperature in celcius/farenheit. I'm quite difficult to understand your explanation my listening English not so good. Thanks 🙏
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
In a dedicated craft oven for 18 hours at 150°F / 65.5°C.
@AUTOSARTID
@AUTOSARTID Год назад
thank you much appreciate @@VampyreX13
@GilbertsGarage
@GilbertsGarage 4 года назад
Subscribed
@andrieslouw6588
@andrieslouw6588 4 года назад
What is the benefits of polyurethane exhaust mounts?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
They don't sag and they prevent the exhaust from bouncing around. They're great if you need the exhaust to sit in one spot to avoid hitting the bumper or anything else. If I didn't have them installed, my muffler would bang on my trailer hitch all the time.
@d4nnyh
@d4nnyh 4 года назад
Hey, out of curiousity what do you thing of directly printing polyurethane bushings using tpu filament?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
I haven't used TPU yet, but someone commented in one of my Facebook posts and said they "printed many parts out of 90A TPU and they seem to hold up well on both race cars and street cars. I'm sure the molded product is better though."
@silodesign3d947
@silodesign3d947 4 года назад
I currently supply a customer with poly bushes 3d printed in ultimaker tpu, he uses them to build up the custom air shocks on his air ride systems, they work really well.
@btkeays123
@btkeays123 4 года назад
Do you think printing 3d molds is better with a resin printer?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
I think a filament printer is better for something like this. I'm not sure how well resin would hold up to being baked and how hard it would be to pull off the polyurethane.
@btkeays123
@btkeays123 4 года назад
@@VampyreX13 thanks!
@straycats9934
@straycats9934 2 года назад
Can polyurethane liquid be used to patch up or be used to seal on the crack of polyurethane skateboard hub motor wheel?(im sorry for my english
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 2 года назад
That is outside my knowledge scope.
@comaradelee
@comaradelee Год назад
would u recommend this on a rack and pinion bushing? what grade would be ok?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
It should work fine for that, but I don't know what hardness to recommend. You could message the company and ask.
@msu19911
@msu19911 3 месяца назад
We make molds for urethane. get in touch with us if you would want custom molds.
@benpolstra4347
@benpolstra4347 Год назад
Is the outside piece of the mold just used to hold shape?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
Yes.
@_kudos8093
@_kudos8093 3 года назад
Hey dude I really appreciated your video. I subscribed and all. Where did you get the bushing sleeves and would you be able to help me with gathering the measurements for my bmw e46?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
Do you mean the sleeve bearing that sits inside the bushing? That came with my aftermarket mount. As for measurements, I recommend getting a digital caliper. I used one from Harbor Freight.
@dubs4life7
@dubs4life7 4 года назад
you're on the Baltimore Beltline near Towson
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
Yes. Have you seen me around?
@micmike
@micmike 3 года назад
What did you pay for the urethane and it's hardener? Was that a quart of hardener?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
I got this a while ago and can't find the receipt in my email, but if you follow the link in the video description it shows at $33.99 plus shipping. It makes 13.52 fl oz. Follow the link for more info.
@jeremiahwatt5995
@jeremiahwatt5995 3 года назад
I’m having issues with my 2014 vibrating when idle in drive. Could some of that be related to my mounts?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
That could be a sign of bad motor mounts. Check the side and rear ones since the front doesn't support the engine.
@hongmihnhahn7081
@hongmihnhahn7081 2 года назад
wondering that material is a little soft ? or absoultely hard? i wanna get a bushing harder than rubber.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 2 года назад
Any of the polyurethane mixes they have for suspension will be harder than rubber. 95A is going to be the hardest. 80A is recommended for a daily car.
@hongmihnhahn7081
@hongmihnhahn7081 2 года назад
@@VampyreX13 very thanks there are so many hardeness grade
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 2 года назад
Yes. I'm using 80 shore A hardness in my car. Read this for more info: polytek.com/how-to/video/mold-making-tips-mold-rubber-hardness
@hongmihnhahn7081
@hongmihnhahn7081 2 года назад
@@VampyreX13 it's informative i am planning to make 65A Bushing for FLEX JOINT
@alfonsoalvarez8251
@alfonsoalvarez8251 4 года назад
Hello, Derick Can you make me 4 bushing for the from EMU lift kit, they send me the wrong size. I need 4, - 39mm eye size. They are for 76 Toy Landcruiser FJ40. Thank-You
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
Unfortunately, I just don't have the time. At most, I might be able to design and 3D print the molds for you, but I would need precise measurements. My recommendation is to call Energy Suspension (949-361-3935) and tell them what you need so they can find you a compatible, if not exact, part number to order.
@zachwaddill7801
@zachwaddill7801 Год назад
Does that rot out in two or three years?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
Mine is still fine.
@johnbuffinton7324
@johnbuffinton7324 3 года назад
Where did you buy the poly liquid?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
Check my video description for links.
@joshuahnamtehnamte5277
@joshuahnamtehnamte5277 11 месяцев назад
Where i can buy polyurethane liquid
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 11 месяцев назад
Check the video description for info.
@davidjosemaloofrivera7056
@davidjosemaloofrivera7056 4 года назад
How bigger is the bushing in relation to the size of the hole in which it is pressed?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
It was exactly the size of the opening in the mount. It's snug, just like the previous bushing it replaced.
@davidjosemaloofrivera7056
@davidjosemaloofrivera7056 4 года назад
@@VampyreX13 Thanks man
@ruckusdc5
@ruckusdc5 3 года назад
What is a softer more oe style mount? For 08 tc
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
OE is going to be the softest. If you need softer, get the Torque Solution mount for your tC and make a bushing with softer polyurethane.
@ajasshamsudheen4351
@ajasshamsudheen4351 4 года назад
Which types of store we get 2 part polyurethane
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
Info is in the video description.
@razif6916
@razif6916 Год назад
You used 80a hardness?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
Yes, since I already had 95A bushings and they were too hard.
@kammarudinmasukat7131
@kammarudinmasukat7131 Год назад
god morning sir how to order polyurthene liquid?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
Information is in the video description.
@alfonsoalvarez8251
@alfonsoalvarez8251 4 года назад
Hello, Derek when I spoke with Kevin at Energy Suspension, he told me I would have to order between 100 -500 and they do not do single orders. Any other Ideas? thanks, AA
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
Get the part number you need and ask them for one of their distributors that can fill the order. What are you trying to get from them exactly?
@alfonsoalvarez8251
@alfonsoalvarez8251 4 года назад
Derrick Aquino He did not want to help because he told me just to get started I would have to get the engineering Dept. Involve and that would take a couple thousand dollars.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
@@alfonsoalvarez8251 what are you trying to make?
@alfonsoalvarez8251
@alfonsoalvarez8251 4 года назад
Derrick Aquino : Hello, my friend they are the bushings for the front of the spring shackle. EMU send the wrong size. I imagine due to the COVID 19 they are making them and they do not make many on the size I need. Thanks AA
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
Is it a simple round bushing? Do you have the measurements for it?
@danielmorrison4517
@danielmorrison4517 4 года назад
What 3D printer are you using? That is a great idea.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
A modded Ender-3.
@renatoambiado4372
@renatoambiado4372 4 года назад
Where did you get the red start button?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
That is actually a planned future quick video, but the product link is amzn.to/2uMN1uz.
@MyMomSayNoDota
@MyMomSayNoDota 3 года назад
make diamond pattern inside the bush to retain the grease.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
This bushing doesn't use nor needs any grease.
@MyMomSayNoDota
@MyMomSayNoDota 3 года назад
@@VampyreX13 i see..
@yuno3364
@yuno3364 Год назад
TIP: Need to use a vacuum chamber to get the air out of those while they are liquid
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
This actually starts to thicken up pretty quick. The ones I poured as soon as I mixed the polyurethane were fine.
@EnergySeeker
@EnergySeeker 2 года назад
How about making it in tpu ??
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 2 года назад
Yes, you can do TPU as well. I've had someone mention to me that's what they did. Since this video, I've also made TPU suspension bushings.
@georgenettlesjr1466
@georgenettlesjr1466 4 года назад
How can I mail you a rubber pad so you can make me four polyurethane spring pads for my 61 Thunderbird that no one makes?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
So you want to make a polyurethane version of the rubber pad you have? If so, there's a different method you can use. Let me know.
@georgenettlesjr1466
@georgenettlesjr1466 4 года назад
@@VampyreX13 yes that's correct. You read that perfectly!
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
​@@georgenettlesjr1466 my recommendation is to get a silicone mold making liquid rubber (amzn.to/3aOTiXy, though you may need enough to make 4 individual molds) and mold release (amzn.to/2Qlr8u6) along with the polyurethane mix. Make 4 copies of the rubber pad so that once you mix the polyurethane, you can use it all at once and pour all 4 molds.
@buraksalman9942
@buraksalman9942 3 года назад
What about bushing after 1 year. Still alive?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
100% still looking like the day I casted it.
@buraksalman9942
@buraksalman9942 3 года назад
@@VampyreX13 thank you. Good work
@zacharyohare2118
@zacharyohare2118 2 года назад
Motor mounts are really large, but I'm hoping to do this with differential bushings for my SRT8, then move on to suspension parts as well. Freaking k member bushings are $200, diff are $150 etc, just ridiculous by the time you replace all the the link bushings and such. Car is multilink front and rear, probably 30 bushings, averaging $25/bushing or more. Yuck. can replace the entire arm with rubber bushings for that. Here's an idea I'm curious if you're interested in trying- what about casting an insert for the oem motor mount, other subframe mounts etc, IE how torque solutions does it. That what you don't get much extra NVH until it starts to deflect significantly.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 2 года назад
I thought about making inserts, but I think it's just better to fill the stock mounts once you trim out some of the extra rubber per ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DxAL2n7VtMU.html. I don't have any issues with NVH with my mounts.
@deejayrelapz6903
@deejayrelapz6903 3 года назад
hey great job and review did you happen to do rear engine mount and side mounts also?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
No, only the front torque mount.
@deejayrelapz6903
@deejayrelapz6903 3 года назад
@@VampyreX13 notice big difference with rear and front done i did it and stop engine rigidity :)
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
@@deejayrelapz6903 That would be too much vibration for my daily though.
@xabysebastian529
@xabysebastian529 3 года назад
Does it degrade with the heat? Can you alter the poly recipe for a softer bushing?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
No, it's been fine in the engine bay sitting next to my header. If you want a softer bushing, order the liquid urethane with the lower durometer rating.
@kumarpatil6161
@kumarpatil6161 Год назад
Grade of polyurethane?????
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
I'm not sure what exactly you need to know, but it's listed as urethane elastomer. I would check www.suspension.com/diymmi. There's some documents linked there. Otherwise, contact the manufacturer.
@cedriceveleigh
@cedriceveleigh 3 года назад
You probably should have worn gloves when handling and mixing the liquid PU components.
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
Yeah, I forget a lot when filming because I have to constantly take my gloves off, hit record, and put them back on. I thought I noted about wearing gloves via text in the video, but I guess not.
@xXBEBeJayyPXx
@xXBEBeJayyPXx 4 года назад
Are you planing to probably sell this ? because if you are im higly interested ! lol
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
I wasn't planning to originally, but you're now the second person asking about motor mounts. I am selling the 95A bushings I took out though if you're interested in those.
@cassandradebruyn9010
@cassandradebruyn9010 4 года назад
Like.
@mikekerezsi9672
@mikekerezsi9672 3 года назад
Nice work, are you willing to sell some ?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
Thank you, but I don't have time to make these. I do have the 95A Prothane ones I mention at the beginning of the video up for sale at facebook.com/marketplace/item/881011575810155.
@Darkvoidproductions1
@Darkvoidproductions1 4 года назад
aw I was hoping you would show how you measured everything up and designed it in tinker cad, other then that awesome video
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
I can make a video for that. Just give me a week as my schedule is crazy booked.
@Darkvoidproductions1
@Darkvoidproductions1 4 года назад
@@VampyreX13 That would be awesome, thanks!
@Darkvoidproductions1
@Darkvoidproductions1 4 года назад
@@VampyreX13 Do you have a moment to make the next video? I'm trying to make custom bushings and I'd like to see how you did it in detail so I don't mess it up. Thanks!
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
@@Darkvoidproductions1 I'm still trying to get that together. I've been really swamped the past couple of weeks. The only reason I'm still posting weekly videos is because I have a few of them already mostly prepped. I will try to work on this one after this weekend.
@Darkvoidproductions1
@Darkvoidproductions1 4 года назад
@@VampyreX13 Appreciate it, thank you
@MRMAN-wb1tv
@MRMAN-wb1tv 2 года назад
*So you just happen to have a 3-D printer in your garage huh*
@Phil-D83
@Phil-D83 2 года назад
Look up Siberian bushings
@tylerwaite8125
@tylerwaite8125 18 дней назад
Why not just 3d print the bushing out of tpu
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 17 дней назад
You could do that, too. I wasn't using TPU as much back when I first made this video, but I have printed TPU shock bushings since.
@jsantiago5604
@jsantiago5604 4 года назад
You should make me one
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 4 года назад
It wouldn't be cheap if I did. $48 for the liquid urethane alone plus 3D printer time (it's tied up for my production use), craft oven time (tied up for my girlfriend's production use), and my time. I do have the 95A inserts for sale though if you're interested.
@MrRicky2jz
@MrRicky2jz 3 года назад
willing to make some bushings for a fee?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 3 года назад
I just don't have the time really. If I did, it probably wouldn't be cheap because of the cost of materials and the amount of time and work I would have to put into it.
@christopheraustin3324
@christopheraustin3324 Год назад
Sell me one 👀
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
Do you already have the hard mount for the urethane to go into?
@christopheraustin3324
@christopheraustin3324 Год назад
@@VampyreX13 I don’t . Where do I get that at?
@VampyreX13
@VampyreX13 Год назад
@@christopheraustin3324 that's the main problem. It's no longer available anywhere. Your best bet is to look at my other video where I talk about filling your stock mounts.
@christopheraustin3324
@christopheraustin3324 Год назад
@@VampyreX13 I’ll check it out. Thanks man!
@djohartobing5962
@djohartobing5962 3 года назад
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