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Cateye Strada Wireless - spoke magnet setup made easy 

Dennis Kwok
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Getting the supplied spoke magnet on Cateye wireless computers correctly positioned, is notoriously finnicky and frustrating. But, with the addition of a strong neodymium magnet, it's easy.
P.S. Before you suggest that I should have the magnet and receiver lower down on the fork leg, this doesn't work with my forks and actually increases the distance between them. Also, having the magnet move faster or slower past the receiver, made sod all difference. It still didn't work!

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@scott3888ds
@scott3888ds 4 года назад
Thanks a lot. The magnet trick worked fantastic. I re read those instructions looking for any clue and 5 minutes of searching on RU-vid solved the problem. Thanks again.
@TheMultiKyle
@TheMultiKyle 8 лет назад
YOU HAVE FIXED THE ISSUE BOTHERED ME WHOLE NIGHT, thank you so much. Especially with the fact that mine is a mountain bike and it is even harder to get closer to its sensor.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
Glad it worked for you Kyle!
@melvinstrike
@melvinstrike 5 лет назад
Thanks so much. I have a different CatEye, but the extra magnets tip worked perfectly.
@jerrymarcum9981
@jerrymarcum9981 8 лет назад
Thanks for the video. In the states we are arrogant and don't use mm much so realizing how close the magnet had to be to the sensor was the fix I needed. If it gives me trouble I will order the magnets. Your help is really appreciated.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
You're welcome. Glad to be of help Jerry!
@nacetroy
@nacetroy 7 лет назад
Just a note to others who might find it helpful - you can mount the sensor lower on the fork and if (like this video's note suggests) your sensor loosens up and travels down, just use some tape under the sensor/sensor's zip ties so it is stopped from slipping lower. I've used the wired version of cateye computers for decades on my road bike and they always held tight even though I bang about, ride over rough pavement, have mistakenly dipped in large potholes or over big gaps in railroad tracks -- and -- all of the same has held true for my mountain bike too with even rougher riding.
@bengt_axle
@bengt_axle 3 года назад
The absolute best way to mount this computer sensor is to use silicone sealant to glue it to the inside of the fork, at precisely the right spot. You will need to apply silicone to the battery door side, so put in a fresh battery. Position with masking tape and use just a few dabs of silicone. It is flexible and removable and won't harm paint. You can also purchase very thin flat magnets that are not much wider than the spoke and epoxy these to the spoke so that it comes within 2mm of the sensor target area. Once these two items are glued in place, you never have to fiddle with the sensor again and there's no risk of it coming in contact with the spokes. I've used this method for over 10 years and only have to change the sensor magnet once every 3-5 years. If you are using the stock magnet, position it so that the forward motion of the wheel will straighten it out (i.e., with magnet trailing the spoke).
@akhilnaik8973
@akhilnaik8973 8 лет назад
Thanks Denis. Your suggestion about the N52 magnet was very useful.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
+Akhil Naik I'm glad you found it useful.
@RobMacKendrick
@RobMacKendrick 5 лет назад
Brilliant, mate! The damn thing should come with those magnets - solves several of the endless problems with it. I wonder if adding a whole 'nother spoke magnet might help, too. For the record, all 99% of bikers need is the old Huret Multito we ran 30 years ago. Cheap, dependable, mechanical, instals in 10 minutes and you never think about it again. Gives you trip and total mileage. AKA the info you need and can't get elsewhere. But, of course, you can't buy those anymore. (Too practical. Not expensive enough.) So, in the meantime, I appreciate your hack. Now back to swearing instead of riding...
@georgegilles9008
@georgegilles9008 8 лет назад
Thank you for making this video. I'm thinking about purchasing this cyclocomputer for my daughters hybrid.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
+George Gilles You're welcome George.
@leeblanchard5348
@leeblanchard5348 2 года назад
Thank you for your video. I ordered on Amazon several sized strong earth magnets, ended up using 10mm x 3mm. Wow what a difference. That was a great fix.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@MickPosch
@MickPosch 2 года назад
Could you post a link please? Also, what magnet-to-sensor distance are you able to get?
@leeblanchard5348
@leeblanchard5348 2 года назад
Sorry to take so long to respond. I do make a lot of comments on Amazon but rarely do I communicate back and forth with anybody. Just a recap. I use a CatEye Quick CC-RS100W cycling computer. It uses a spoke magnet for the speed sensor. The distance/placement between magnet and sensor is recommended to be 5mm or 3/16 which worked (it seemed it had to be a little closer). Mike Posh’s RU-vid video suggested adding an additional magnet to create more distance between magnet and sensor. I bought the Nazzo Small magnets, Rare Earth, Super Strong Neodymium magnet set from amazon. I used the 10mm by 3mm magnet on top of the CatEye magnet and the distance went from 5mm (3/16) to 20.65mm (13/16). Really nice difference. Thankyou Mike again for your video Lee
@stateniland
@stateniland 6 лет назад
Hello... I purchased the Pedrone computer for my Bad Boy 1... With the thick round front fork that is making it difficult to mount the speed sensor with it's irregular shape (not round).. SUGGESTIONS? Thank you
@roadyeti7798
@roadyeti7798 9 лет назад
If you look at the speed sensor unit, it has a small notch with an arrow that says 'sensor zone'. You sensor is about 1cm high. It does work better to have the sensor mounted on the front of the fork the way you have it. If mounted correctly where the 'sensor zone' is lined up with the center of the magnet you can run about 5-6mm of clearance with no problem. Try adjusting your sensor and I bet all your complaints disappear. Happy riding
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
Dirtyeti Don't you think I knew that the sensor has an notch indicating where the magnet is supposed to pass by? What makes you think I didn't try adjusting the sensor before??? Think before you type! The really stupid thing with the sensor, is that when you line up the magnet to pass by the notch it works even worse and to get any reading at all, you actually need to have the magnet pass around 7mm lower than the indicator notch. It's a really stupid design. Also, no matter where you have the supplied magnet pass the sensor, you are NOT going to be able to run 5-6mm of clearance. Do you actually have any experience with this particular model of computer? If not, then please do not post 'advice'.
@roadyeti7798
@roadyeti7798 9 лет назад
Dennis Kwok Sorry you were offended. You sound really frustrated. I actually have the same unit and have the sensor mounted on the front of the left fork with 5mm of clearance between the magnet and the sensor. Mine has worked fine since day one. Maybe you just got one with a bad sensor and should return it for a replacement. Cheers
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
Dirtyeti Apology accepted and sorry for the spikey reply. The reason I'm frustrated is because people so far have given advice which is useless. I'm happy for you that your Strada unit works fine with a clearance of 5mm, but mine and many, many others doesn't or didn't. Perhaps Cateye changed the spec of the magnet to a stronger one since my review, but I've now switched to a Garmin instead. Regards, Den
@ramblin_man23
@ramblin_man23 5 лет назад
Dennis Kwok why didn't you give this explanation in the video so he wouldn't feel the need to give you that advice??? If you don't explain it in the video, then don't spaz out and have attitude when someone politely gives you advice GEEZ smh.
@emy1111
@emy1111 10 лет назад
i heard that putting the receiver closer to the hub is good because it gives the computer a better chance of receiving the signal as the speed is lower at the bottom... and having the receiver on the other fork will insure the computer is pushed away from the wheel in the eventuality that the wheel buckles etc.
@akubradaf
@akubradaf 10 лет назад
Mount it at the bottom of the fork dude! Near hub works better for gap distance!:-)
@lykelmacaranas6605
@lykelmacaranas6605 3 года назад
This is true. It’s the simplest method to get the magnet closer to the sensor.
@conaltaylor
@conaltaylor 6 лет назад
Thank you, exactly what I needed.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 6 лет назад
Conal Taylor you're welcome mate!
@SCOOBYDOODAZ
@SCOOBYDOODAZ 10 лет назад
Do you have round or flat spokes? I've just changed wheels, not have flat spokes.....now the magnet doesn't fit the spoke..Any info?
@wyatt1153
@wyatt1153 11 лет назад
Very smart. Bravo.
@umterps83
@umterps83 8 лет назад
Thanks so much for your help!
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
+Emile Dawisha You're welcome!
@JustNow42
@JustNow42 6 лет назад
In my Mag sensor the sensitive spot is in one corner and not in the middle where you Mount it. I also Think that it is Better to Mount the magnet where the speed relative to the sensor is large.
@robertkudrle7680
@robertkudrle7680 10 лет назад
Great tip. I am struggling with this very same unit to get it to read properly. The problem is even worse with a wider cyclocross fork for gravel rides. Glad to see you found a solution. Thank you for taking the time to post this.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 10 лет назад
Happy to help mate. I've since gone GPS with a Garmin.
@TheOuttabody
@TheOuttabody 10 лет назад
Thank you for the great video and the advice. To be honest with you, the distance between the magnet and the sensor, which must be within 5mm according to instruction manual, is the most annoying thing, ever!!!, especially for mountain bikers. The distance is way too close. Either the sensor or the magnet is eventually bound to move around due to rough terrain. There are two leading bike computer manufacturers (CatEye and Sigma). And both have the same annoying limitation. If trying to get the magnet and the sensor in a working and a satisfactorily safe position doesn't make you pull your hair out, I don't know what does...!?! It sounds like you've found a way better option with Garmin, rather than fiddling around with so-called "bike computers". If you don't mind me asking, what is the model number of your Garmin? I may consider that option, as well.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 10 лет назад
TheOuttabody Yes, the tolerance of the positioning of the magnet is just silly finicky and incredibly annoying. I bought a Garmin 500 and it's excellent and having made the switch to GPS, I'll never use a wheel magnet system ever again if can help it.
@TheOuttabody
@TheOuttabody 10 лет назад
I have another question for you and for those, who might have experienced the same issue. If I'm going slow at a steady rate, the "trip distance" is working fine (as it should...) as it keeps going up. So far, so good! However, the speedometer does not register. The speedometer simply stays at zero for any speed rate slower than 2 miles per hour. Only after I start going faster than 2 miles per hour, then the speedometer starts working and showing the current speed. Is this normal? I'm not sure if this is a problem with this particular unit I have or this is an overall flaw with this CatEye brand.
@NipperDog
@NipperDog 9 лет назад
Great solution, thanks!
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
Happy to be of help mate.
@akubradaf
@akubradaf 10 лет назад
Ok dude sweet bike by the way:-)
@roadyeti7798
@roadyeti7798 9 лет назад
Which Garmin did you get and how do you like it? I'm looking for something to map a Paris-Roubaix ride? Thanks
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
Dirtyeti I got a Garmin 500, as I didn't need any of the nav. mapping functions of a 510 or 800. It's great for my needs as it's ANT+, so I can train with a HRM. I also like how customisable it is. One negative is that it's quite slow to lock on initially.
@TitusLivy777
@TitusLivy777 7 лет назад
very helpful...thanks!
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 7 лет назад
You're welcome!
@barrymccochiner9900
@barrymccochiner9900 3 года назад
I almost purchased a new Computer thinking the sensor was bad, re adjusted and it works swell
@simbadurio444
@simbadurio444 10 лет назад
Outstanding! Thanks a bunch mate!
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 10 лет назад
Glad to help mate.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
***** Apart from the finnicky spoke magnet, the unit itself worked perfectly well and seeing as you can get one for only around £25, I'd recommend it. As long as you understand that it only gives you basic ride info. I now use a Garmin Edge 500.
@rabity
@rabity 9 лет назад
Dennis Kwok I just got one last week, Its an old version but what the heck i like it and it does the job well :] Nice garmin 500 :] my dad wants a garmin soon too
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
***** Yeah, it's a good bit of kit. One annoying thing though, is how long it takes to aquire a GPS signal from startup and how easily that signal is lost in overcast conditions and under trees. I had a Bryton 20E before the Garmin and its GPS signal was faster and more stable.
@rabity
@rabity 9 лет назад
Dennis Kwok How much did it run you? 199 for the Garmin500?
@chriscagleATX
@chriscagleATX 8 лет назад
thanks for making this video...was about to pull my hair out
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
Happy to help, Chris.
@costi08
@costi08 8 лет назад
Mount it down on the fork leg, towards the axle, so the angular speed would be lower and the sensor will be able to detect when magnet passes. More precisely, mount the magnet around the spokes intersection. Hub > spoke intersection > magnet. Also tyre won't hit the sensor when you dismount the wheel.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
+costi08 With most forks, you're going to find that the distance from the spokes to the sensor is wider that close to the hub, than from where I had it positioned. This makes it impossible to get the sensor to the correct angle, making it even harder to set up correctly. Trust me, I tried. It was worse.
@daviddiefendorf4180
@daviddiefendorf4180 8 лет назад
+Dennis Kwok Absolutely not true! The spokes are much closer to the fork on most bikes a you move closer to the hub.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
Whatever, this is not the case with the carbon forks on my bike. Regards.
@tamikamichelle4309
@tamikamichelle4309 7 лет назад
CSL i
@g000se99
@g000se99 6 лет назад
Dennis Kwok wotevs. Just move it down. No need for your 'fix'
@crab3244
@crab3244 6 лет назад
Thanks for the video! Do you have a link to the magnet?
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 6 лет назад
Felix Crabtree. It's been a long time since I bought them. But if you do a search on eBay for N52 magnets, there are a lot of listings. I think the size is 10mm x 2mm.
@RahilMUFC
@RahilMUFC 6 лет назад
You are a saviour
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 6 лет назад
Glad you found the video useful!
@andrewlewiscameras
@andrewlewiscameras 9 лет назад
Does the stronger magnet affect the accuracy of the readings your getting in any way?
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
Andrew Lewis Not at all. All the magnet does is trip a ferrous switch inside the receiver.
@thomasbown8442
@thomasbown8442 7 лет назад
Was this not a long term solution then? You switched to a Garmin in the end? Just wondering if I should bother buying new batteries and a strong magnet and resurrecting my Strada which has a flat battery or just buying a different model.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 7 лет назад
Hello. This is absolutely fine as long term solution. The reason I switched to a Garmin is that it has way more functionality and customisability and I got a great Black Friday deal on Amazon for it.
@thomasbown8442
@thomasbown8442 7 лет назад
Will give it a try. Started thinking about Garmin but do like the simplicity of a basic computer.
@MickPosch
@MickPosch 2 года назад
I just got a Padrone and installed it on my GT Aggressor Pro. Took me a whole afternoon of screwing around before I found out about the 5mm distance business. How could you possibly get it that close? I measured the distance at about 51 mm! If I mount it way down on the fork and screw around with a few other things I may be able to get it within 38 mm at best. This is ridiculous...they need to tell you about this before you buy it! I'm going to try the more powerful magnets people are mentioning, and maybe also jerry-rigging the sensor positioning with several layers of foam tape...we'll see what happens. Sure would be nice if the damn thing worked right out of the box...
@trishoneill4617
@trishoneill4617 4 года назад
cant you put sensor and magnet on back wheel , to avoid issues when removing the front wheel to transport bike etc?
@robertgrlic6505
@robertgrlic6505 Год назад
No... with my cateye velo wireless, you need to be no more than 70cm from the receiver. Also, the bike computer unit must be parallel (not in angle) because the receiver is right under.
@ernesto18
@ernesto18 8 лет назад
may i ask... what is the difference between this bicycle computer and apps like endomondo? it provides the same info right?
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
+mers-pho Yeah, pretty much. But having a cycle computer on your bars is just much more convenient and you don't have to worry about battery life as you would with a mobile phone app.
@ernesto18
@ernesto18 8 лет назад
oh yeah that's a good point! cool
@arianzaw7187
@arianzaw7187 7 лет назад
Thank you
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 7 лет назад
I'm glad you found it useful!
@PatisserieRoyale
@PatisserieRoyale 4 года назад
Any reason why it shows me correct speed, then it suddently drops from 20km/h to 6km/h then goes back up to 20km/h?? even though i'm still going 20km/h?
@Fixie4life
@Fixie4life 3 года назад
Ive read that if you have a LED front light to close to the unit it may cause interference. if that helps you
@sandrarefugio7945
@sandrarefugio7945 9 лет назад
Good Idear!
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
Thanks! I have my uses....sometimes!
@milanyates8522
@milanyates8522 3 года назад
cheers
@CarstenBauer
@CarstenBauer 9 лет назад
Did you mean half a millimetre or half a centimetre? 0.5mm or 5mm?
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
0.5mm. :)
@X6800
@X6800 6 лет назад
I have a cheap ohuhu wireless speedometer that refuses to work even after buying new batteries. The magnet and sensor literally have to be like 2 inches apart before the meter registers anything. DAFAQ?! 2 inches is impossible when mounting the correct way on the handle bar and rim.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 10 лет назад
That's where I had it mounted before. With the shape of my fork legs the difference in distance at the top and bottom is negligible and the setting up without the magnet was just as hit and miss.
@mojama7
@mojama7 8 лет назад
I think you would solve your problem if you mount magnet and sensor closer to wheel center.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
Read the comments below my friend.
@immortalis1001
@immortalis1001 9 лет назад
Thank you so much for this, LOL. I thought that I am too stupid to install it and make this damn thing work. Apparently I did everything right, except, of course, the magnet was too far from the sensor. As soon as I moved them closer, it started to work...duhh.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
***** Glad you got it sorted in the end.
@badreligion9265
@badreligion9265 8 лет назад
I believe this guy for some reason had abnormal issues with the sensor/magnet placement or didn't realize the sensor pivots. I personally own this product and have had zero issues with getting the sensor to sense the magnet. The sensor itself has a bracket which allows it to pivot inward towards the spoke, so even if it looks like the magnet is too far away chances are you can just push the sensor towards the magnet and then the magnet will be within spec as far as distance from sensor is concerned.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
I was well aware that the holder is able to allow the sensor to pivot and the sensor was positioned as close as possible to the spoke magnet, given the limitations of the shape of the carbon fork.
@badreligion9265
@badreligion9265 8 лет назад
+Dennis Kwok Maybe Cateye has changed the strength of the magnet then or made some type of sensor improvement. Last night when I set this up, I had almost an inch between the magnet and the sensor, obviously it wasn't working with that amount of space. But after pushing the sensor inwards and making sure the small arrow on the sensor was aligned with the centerline of the magnet, it worked flawlessly. In your video it even appears that the magnet's center-line is not aligned with the center line of the notched portion of the sensor. Right where it says "Sensor Zone" on the sensor(top right corner when looking at sensor with bracket on the left)the magnet's center-line needs to be aligned with that arrows center-line. If previously you made sure all of the above was done, then I can only think you received a faulty unit or Cateye has since made improvements on their product to combat this issue.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
Unfortunately, what makes the Strada even harder to set up, is that when you do pass the magnet over the marked area on the sensor, nothing actually happens and you only get a reading when you position the magnet much lower down, contrary to the useless instructions. At least, this was the experience of the unit I had. The unit was actually reading just fine. All I did in the vid, was just increase the distance between the fork sensor and the spoke magnet.
@morgangaines4338
@morgangaines4338 8 лет назад
All the annoying reasons that you gave as to why this computer screws up at times is exactly why I went back to their wired version.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 8 лет назад
+morgan gaines ...and exactly why I bought a Garmin instead.
@bluztime5271
@bluztime5271 7 лет назад
You don't have the magnet lined up properly with the sensor.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 7 лет назад
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you've not read the previous comments.
@adammartinez8887
@adammartinez8887 3 года назад
you actually want that to be lowered down to give you more of an accurate reading
@joemuir866
@joemuir866 9 лет назад
you haven got the magnet set to the right part on the sensor the magnet goes to the top of the sensor if you look at the sensor you will see a mark for the magnet to pass. read the bloody instructions
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
Unfortunately, what makes the Strada even harder to set up, is that when you do pass the magnet over the marked area on the sensor, nothing actually happens and you only get a reading when you position the magnet much lower down, contrary to the useless instructions. The unit was actually reading just fine, until I just increased the distance between the fork sensor and the spoke magnet. Thank you for your very helpful and carefully considered attempt at advice though. Most appreciated.
@John-G
@John-G 4 года назад
It's not "half a mill" - its 5 (FIVE) mill, so half a centimetre.
@garavonhoiwkenzoiber
@garavonhoiwkenzoiber 9 лет назад
that's a good tip, but the closer to the center of the wheel you mount the magnet, the slower it spins giving a more accurate reading. Also, learn manual focus argh my eyes x_x
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 9 лет назад
Thanks for the comments. Placing the magnet nearer to the hub makes absolutely zero difference; it still doesn't work. Also, everything else being equal, placing it nearer to the hub doesn't make the reading 'more accurate' at all, as it still takes exactly the same amount of time for the magnet to rotate 360 degrees. As for focussing, you try holding a 5'' smartphone with one hand, carrying out tasks with the other, commenting at the same time and then manually focussing on the correct part of the screen. Easier said than done.
@pablo8954
@pablo8954 7 лет назад
you got it too high,,needs to be low down by the hub
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 7 лет назад
For the twentieth time, read the previous bloody comments!
@ramblin_man23
@ramblin_man23 5 лет назад
Woah lil Ms Attitude across the pond ey?
@rw7799
@rw7799 6 лет назад
or you could send it back so this retailer stops selling shite... i havent had this problem yet but why do trading standards let such shit be sold..would rather pay £45 and not hav to buy magnets . Its even called 'strada' which sounds like strava.....just to mislead a few buyers into thinking its a gps as well.
@denniskwok7613
@denniskwok7613 6 лет назад
R Williams to be fair to Cateye, 'strada' is just the Italian name for 'street' and they used the name way before Strava was even conceived. But yeah, it is annoying that the computer doesn't work well out of the box.
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