Catholicism: Worth Arguing About (1st of 4 videos on Catholicism) 

"Watch your attitude. Too often the only person who's willing to defend Christianity is the one that is angry. Let our motives be right. I do need to stand for the gospel, but I don't need to defend it as though it's actually in danger. The person's in danger, not the gospel." Amen to that, brother.

My grandma, she's 90, was raised catholic. She married my grandpa, who is 94, when she was 16...he was protestant. Then had to have 2 weddings because neither family accepted the other wedding. In her 80s, grandma was actually baptized a biblical Christian. It was a blessed day. She loves it and has walked this out with my grandpa happily...and they still are!

Pastor Winger, I’ve now listened to 4 of your videos on Catholicism and I am so impressed with the clarity. You present the material with humility AND boldness. I am so enjoying them and I hope that one day my Catholic friend will listen to them. Please pray that “A” will know Christ. Thank you so much. May God bless you and your ministry richly.

Great job ! Biblical humility & clarity is so refreshing. God bless !

I can’t tell you just how thankful I am for you. I literally am jumping up and down in my spirit. My grandma who has been FAITHFUL to me all me life, who took me on as a child when my parents couldn’t, and seems to have every single one of the fruits of the spirit (which confuses me) is a Roman Catholic. I have been talking with her, and asking her to dive deeper into what she truly believes VS what they are teaching. I went to mass with her and heard the false teaching. I love your analogy at the beginning. You have a gift, and will help save souls.

WILL MIKE WINGER ACCEPT TO PUBLICLY DEBATE TRENT HORN??????

Hi Mike as a former "Roman" Catholic we should always remember to use the word "ROMAN" before the word CATHOLICISM or CATHOLIC I always correct Roman Catholics when I'm having a dialogue with them, because it can cause a bit of confusion in conversations. Great study and appreciate the time and effort and also your humble spirit in exposing this false religious unbiblical ideology which I was part of 38 years. we must always show that the word of God is AUTHORITATIVE and it is what makes us Christian's, ( which is what you do praise the lord) 1 Peter 1:23 King James Version Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, BY THE WORD OF GOD, WHICH LIVETH AND ABIDETH FOR EVER. God bless you and your ministry. great video series

Thank you for your thoughtful approach to the issue. I appreciate that you admit that we should not use Catholics or the worst parts of Catholic history as the basis for your view of Catholicism. On that note, I have a question for you: Why did you only ask one priest the reason why he became a priest? I think you would find that if you asked more of them, you would find more thoughtful and logical responses. I agree that even among the clergy in the Catholic faith, there may be many who aren't catechized well, possibly including the current Pope. Thank you again for this series.

I would like to see a debate with Scott Hahn.

I was raised Roman Catholic. When I truly became born again : A true intimate relationship by inviting Jesus into my heart as Lord and Savior (not the RCC 's definition of born again by having water sprinkled on you as a baby) and I started studying scripture more, I started becoming more and more uneasy about what the Catholic church was teaching in contrast to what I was learning in God's word. Bottom line is I believe you can be saved while in the RCC but you CANNOT remain there once you grow in the Word of God- its impossible. I thank the Lord he led me out of the false teachings of Catholicism and into the liberty of the glorious Gospel of truth. Thank you Lord!

One thing I just realized. It was PETER himself the "first Pope" told Simon the sorcerer to pray to the Lord. Why would the first Pope tell a believer to not go to the priesthood or himself as first Pope. But he instructs to pray to the Lord directly for forgiveness of sins.

You can try to ask some people questions about their belief in Catholicism...and many get very defensive, start to insult non-Catholics, claim the Bible is Catholic....it's the same with anything someone has clung to all of their life. I tell them to just ask God to show them the truth. That one usually gets them really angry, and I promise that isn't my intent.

It’s common sense to just stick with the original Bible as the original authors wrote it, and nothing else.

Excellent stuff, Mike. Looking forward to watching the rest of the series. May God bless your ministry.

This video series has made me feel so seen and it’s comforting that I’m not crazy. I was raised Catholic and a lot of what I see wrong with it now is validated in this series. I wasn’t sure if I spent 20+ years in church /school and somehow was the only one who missed the gospel being preached all that time. This is helping with my healing, thank you pastor Mike!

Keep speaking truth don't be discourage because God just dilivered me and my husband and we're 61. We were very devoted. I also would've been offended like many in the comments below. You just delivered the message and only HOLY SPIRIT do the works of delivering🙏 it's a very unpopular work now i know !!!

Mike, do one on Protestantism and protestants!

Thank you for this video series. I am a former lifelong, devoted catholic. Thanks to God, when I was trying to delve deeper into my faith by going to the Latin Traditional Mass, I decided to start researching the history of churches, and started reading and studying my Bible in earnest. It was like the scales were falling off my eyes, the more I read the scriptures and prayed on it. God is amazing, and answered my prayers for a deeper faith. I was baptized, am now born again in Christ, consider myself a Christian, not a catholic, and I follow the Gospel, solo scriptura. I found a bible-believing Church, and I now worship and fellowship with other humble Christians who follow the Gospel. I am a different person now - while I was always devout and faithful, going to mass weekly, praying the rosary weekly, going to adoration mostly, monthly confessions, praying novenas to Mary and to the different saints, etc...my head was “in the world”, and my moral values aligned more with the world than with the Gospel. I was duped into thinking my religious works (stated above) was what would save me, therefore it allowed for a worldly life without good conscience. Don’t get me wrong, I was a good person and not an adulteress or anything scandalous...but I was materialistic and vain, I dressed inappropriately at times and enjoyed the attention, I had lustful thoughts, and I was selfish. But I was a “good and faithful catholic” because I did all the stuff I listed above. Now I am born again in Christ, and the old me is in the past, an “old suit” I was blessed to discard with my baptism. Absolutely a transformation in my mind of how I want to live my life, following the Gospel, taking care to live in a way pleasing to God, which in turn makes my life more joyful and peaceful. I love being “set apart” from the world, on the narrow path. I don’t care to please man, only God. I never want to be on that wide path again, and I am praying heavily for my family, who are all Catholics. I sought God, and He saved me. But my catholic family thinks they are just fine, don’t need to read the Bible daily, because they have EWTN to listen to, and their rosaries. Nothing I say matters to them, unfortunately, and they don’t want to hear it. This was a great video for me to listen to to help with this. Thank you.

In Acts 15 we see a perfect model of the Church. This chapter details the council of Jerusalem. This is where the Elders and the Apostles met to discuss whether or not converts had to observe all Jewish customs in order to be Christians. When they decide the issue, they do not cite Scripture as the authority, rather they state that “It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us (Acts 15:28).” And even though this decision of the Apostles and the Elders was written down and they assert that it had the authority of the Holy Spirit, the letter which is Scripture also stipulates the following “Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing (Acts 15:27).” And this council, held in Jerusalem, had authority over all Christians, as we see in Acts 16 Scripture says “Paul came to Derbe and then to Lystra…and Iconium. As they traveled from town to town, they delivered the decisions reached by the apostles and elders in Jerusalem for the people to obey (Acts 16:1,2,4).” Another extremely powerful verse from Paul is when he declares to the Corinthians that “He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant-not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life (2 Corinthians 3:6).” This is extremely powerful for two reasons, one it clearly states that they are not ministers of the letter and second because it unequivocally asserts that they are primarily ministers of the New Covenant, and if you remember from Luke and Paul’s writings, the New Covenant is the Eucharist. In Luke 22:20 Jesus states “In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.” And Paul reasserts our Lord’s words in 1 Corinthians 11:25: “In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” It seems clear to me that if your minister emphasizes the book over the Body and Blood of Jesus, he is not understanding the book very well.

Are you going to do a series like this for Jehovah's Witnesses and/or Mormonism?

I actually legitimately love this guy! + his songs are the best!

Going to listen to this video now. Noticing a lot of Catholics posting here. One question ... do you regularly prayerfully carefully read the Bible? If you can bring light to bear based on the Bible (not feelings) please share.

In which historical documents may one read about how the very early church canonized the scriptures in the first century AD? Was the very early church infallible?

@Mike Winger. Are you going to do the same series for Mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses? There are some good similarities between these beliefs as well. How about Islam? It is what makes us all one belief in Christ.

Great teaching. I took a couple good quotes away from this one!

This Patrick guy in the comments in probably the most angry and wild Christian I’ve ever seen in any comment section. This is why people think Christians are hateful. Giving Christians a bad name. Literally didn’t listen to anything mike said about not responding in anger and using gentleness. Stirring up conflict for no good reason.

@David Porthouse *66 books is not pseudo. Why? Bible says Scriptures was committed to the Jews. Romans 3:1-2. Jews till this day holds 39 books OT. Not 46 books OT. So R Catholic Church added 7 books. That's pseudo.* you said I suspect your Bible will turn out to be that 66-book pseudobible.

*Bible says Mary was a sinner:* 1. Mary had to bring Sin Offering. Lev 12:6. Sin Offering is for sins. 2. Mary needed to be purified. Lev 12:6. All impurity in OT is sin. 3. Mary needed atonement for sins. Lev 12:7, 8. Atonement is for sin. Why else she needed atonement? Only sin needed atonement. 4. Which part says Mary was sinless? Chapter verse? *Traditions + BIBLE says Mary was a sinner:* 5. Tradition says Mary died at 60 years of age. But why would a sinless person die a natural death at such a young age ? BIBLE history tells us almost sinless Patriarchs lived to about 900 years old. So it is clear Mary was just a sinner. Her genes were defective. Inherent sin in the human genome produces inherited physical mutations. Over many generations, the human population has experienced myriads of genetic mutations, and these defects have been incorporated into the common human gene pool, affecting every infant ever born. This is why the lifespan of men has declined from 900+ years in the pre-Flood world to 200+ years of Abraham’s contemporaries and ultimately to 70-80 years today. Mary did not live to be 900 years old. She was not martyred at a young age. Her body suffered the ravages of imperfection. She had a defective human genome and died a normal age (approximately 60) for a woman of that time. *6. Romanists claimed Mary was the woman in Rev 12. Why would a sinless person have Birth Pangs? Birth Pangs came from the curse of Sin.* Luk 2:22 Now when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were completed, they brought Him to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord Luk 2:23 (as it is written in the law of the Lord, "EVERY MALE WHO OPENS THE WOMB SHALL BE CALLED HOLY TO THE LORD" ), Luk 2:24 and to offer a sacrifice according to what is said in the law of the Lord, "A PAIR OF TURTLEDOVES OR TWO YOUNG PIGEONS." Leviticus 12:6-8 (NKJV) 6 'When the days of her purification are fulfilled, whether for a son or a daughter, she shall bring to the priest a lamb of the first year as a burnt offering, and a young pigeon or a turtledove as a sin offering, to the door of the tabernacle of meeting. 7 Then he shall offer it before the LORD, and make atonement for her. And she shall be clean from the flow of her blood. This is the law for her who has borne a male or a female. 8 'And if she is not able to bring a lamb, then she may bring two turtledoves or two young pigeons-one as a burnt offering and the other as a sin offering. So the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.' Rom 3:10 As it is written: "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NO, NOT ONE; Lev 14:19 "Then the priest shall offer the sin offering, and make atonement for him who is to be cleansed from his uncleanness. Afterward he shall kill the burnt offering. Lev 15:30 Then the priest shall offer the one as a sin offering and the other as a burnt offering, and the priest shall make atonement for her before the LORD for the discharge of her uncleanness. Lev 16:16 So he shall make atonement for the Holy Place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions, for all their sins; and so he shall do for the tabernacle of meeting which remains among them in the midst of their uncleanness.

The official Catholic Catechism teaches that Muslims part take of salvation, yet people that leave the Roman Catholic Church have no salvation

As a catholic Even though I respectfully disagree with this video but I do appreciate how humble you are being in this one you seem like the type of person I would like to have a genuine conversation with

I like that Mike : it is a very smart way of approaching the ennemy : you state some things in a video and when remarks and questions come YOU JUST DONT REACT . Did not the bible say in Matthew 16 this : 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. You actually mention this Question at 17.25 But what was the answer Mike ? Why did the father who is in heaven reveal this :Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. AND WHY DO YOU SAY DIFFERENT? DONT ANSWER ME STAY ON YOUR ISLAND DONT LET ME IN DONT ANSWER ME ?

Praying Mike Winger comes home to the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church 🙏 Humbly in Christ, A former protestant who has seen the truth and can never go back

I came here from Trent Horn's rebuttal. Though I'm with Trent on the Catholic side of this one, I do enjoy your attitude, and style (which is similar to Trent's style). I think it's sad that you had to go so long just explaining why and how we should pursue the truth. Most of what you said here should be obvious, but you're right that for a lot of people it may not be. I am a Catholic who came into the Church as an adult, having grown up Evangelical Protestant. Two points of disagreement that stand out to me here: 1. The contrasting of the terms Catholicism vs Christianity seems just silly, when for 1500 years the two terms were virtually synonymous, and the major exception, Eastern Orthodoxy, is still ~99% the same as Catholicism. I guess Catholics could take the same approach and say Christianity vs Protestantism, but it seems we currently define terms differently, as you said in the video. We generally view those who believe in the Trinity as Christians. 2. The Contrasting of Catholic belief vs Biblical belief. I became Catholic because I gradually realized how it was in fact MORE Biblical, as well as more historical, and logical. I'd follow up with Trent Horn's rebuttal if you want a few points where that's true in regards to points in this video. All that said, I do think plenty of Catholics don't really get their faith, and don't have the relationship with Christ it requires, so I appreciate the need for revival and conversion, but the true conversion should be to a deeper Catholicism that does live up to the Evangelical understanding of the term "Born Again" (even if that isn't how the term was used in the Bible).

I agree That not all of Catholic and Orthodox teachings are biblically based. Tradition is very important: example Assumption, Immaculate conception, etc. are not biblical.

Great advice, Mike! Thank you!

How do you help some one who uses a bible that he thinks is correct because it is a bible, when in reality that person is reading a translation that has been bent to uphold teachings of demons because fear works better than love? Take the translation of the word hades and ehena for example in the KJV. are you aware that the word Hell has a different meaning in German than it has in English even American English?

I grew up Catholic... thank you for touchig on the subject. I really can't get enough of your sermons, Sir. 💜

Mike Winger, I'm not sure if you'll ever get to see my comment, I think you're a really intelligent person and I would definitely love to sit down with you and talk about all things God. I praise Jesus that you say you're a truth seeker and only He truly knows if you really are. I came across your videos by chance and came across this one about Catholicism. I'm sorry but you've got the picture wrong (saying this truly in a loving way). God didn't give me a brilliant mind like you to know deep theological truths and articulations, but rather God gave me a simple faith; one that is open to the Truth and a mind that understands complex concepts of that Truth in a very basic chronological way. A really quick background about me: I came to faith in Jesus thru the Pentecostal & Charismatic "stream" of Christianity in my late High School years. Perhaps like many youngsters, my faith wasn't deep and when the storms of life came, I fell away into the world. For a few years I was living in disobedience from God until by His great love and mercy for me, I was delivered from darkness and into life. I had a renewed hunger to please God and to seek Him in everything I did. My hunger for God was everything and I felt so little and humbled by God because of His mercy and love towards a sinner like me. I continued going for a short time to my old Pentecostal Church and I knew with new eyes that the doctrines that they were proclaiming was false and not inline with the teachings of my Lord Jesus. Long story short, The Holy Spirit called me to follow Him out to someplace else and I did this with much struggle because my entire mindset and beliefs were tied to this type of Christianity; I truly believed that Pentecostalism was Christianity. Until God delivered me out from Pentecostalism I didn't even know that God had a will of His own. I was then led to the Calvary Chapel non-denomination Denomination and for a few years I was fed there and relearned things about God in a new way, like God having a will of His own and sometimes He allows us to suffer but with purpose, etc. During this whole sojourn thru my growing in the Lord, innocently I was thinking about the many other Christian churches that proclaim their love for Jesus and teach doctrines that come into direct opposition to one another and how there's a lot of bitter arguments about things that are viewed as essentials to some but not essential to others, etc and I asked my Pastor once if we as Christians can just come together as ONE family to sit down and discuss our differences with the objective of reconciliation. He actually laughed at my question and said that it's not possible and that he doesn't care for unity. I put that comment on the back burner and went on with life. Yet, my hunger for Truth grew more intense within me and this desire for all Christians to be ONE like a family at table eating and sharing their lives together. I'm not talking about being ONE yet forfeiting Truth to be ONE, but getting over the issues that keep us separated from being together as a family again and having one voice proclaiming the Truth of the Messiah Jesus with one faith, one baptism, one Lord. Again, trying to keep this short, but after years of seeking the Truth and finding out about the Early Church Fathers, my chronological way of understanding things and the working of the Holy Spirit as guide, I became convinced of the claims of the Catholic Church and was received into the Catholic faith at Easter Vigil A.D. 2010 Since that time I haven't regretted it yet I had a lot of struggles working thru my anti-Catholic beliefs acquired from my Evangelical Protestant years. Again, I think that you're a intelligent person whom I would like to sit in your presence and talk theology and all things God, and from my perspective you are so close to the Truth of the Catholic faith and you'd be a great Catholic theologian, like Scott Hahn, yet the misinformation along with old anti-Catholic prejudices block you from knowing the Truth. I'm truly saying this in love brother. May God bless you and your family and I pray that someday you'll know the JOY of what it means to be a Catholic.

I have a very hard time believing the story about the priest at around 18:00. He went through five or six years of education and training before his first ordination and you are telling me he never thought about why he wanted to be a priest? He have discussed this very issue extensively with his spiritual director during his time as a seminarian. Becoming a priest is not a job you are choosing. It is a calling by God you are answering to. Was Aaron choosing among different jobs during the exodus? Was Moses, Jeremia, Elia, David or Samuel choosing what to do?

Thanks Mike

Read the book by Anthony Pezzotta who was a former Catholic Priest from Italy sent to the Philippines. He had a daily conversation with his neighbor, a baptist pastor and accepted Christ as his savior. He wrote a book entitled Truth Encounter about what is wrong with the Catholic faith. Its a good read.

"Reject papacy, embrace Lord Jesus" - Me

​ @slavaukraini8475 *Bible does not teach "ONLY mortal sins send you to hell" or "venial sins lead you to Purgatory" or the "doctrine of Purgatory".* *Bible teaches "all sins lead to death", Romans 6:23.* you said o we believe there are 'mortal' sins and 'venial' sins. The difference is mortal sins send you to hell (for example mortal sins would be the ten commandments) whereas venial sins send you to purgatory.

​ @Smart_Joey_ *Where in the Bible teaches "we must work our way to get through that door. By God's grace we are able to work to get there."?* *Where in the Bible teach all these m m tales?* you said The fact Jesus offered himself up for us is by no means our work. But now we must do our part. Jesus opened the door so we must work our way to get through that door. By God's grace we are able to work to get there.

I laughed when Mike says "If catholicism is true, we need to come under the authority of the pope". I can't even entertain the idea of taking the pope seriously.

MIke, great job presenting this material with clarity and humility. I’m reading comments from Catholics who have watched and am stunned at the level of deception and denial of these truths. To me, these people indicate that they do not have the indwelling Holy Spirit but simply adhere to a religion. The volumes of evidence being denied is remarkable but without the Spirit of Truth, man will believe anything. Praying for you and for freedom in Christ for all who listen. Thank you for equipping the saints!

I don't really have a dog in this fight. My culture and country is overwhelmingly Protestant, so I don't come in contact with Catholics. I do however agree with Mike that if the CC was correct, that I should become Catholic. Which is why it's important to know what they teach. As far as I can see, not only does the CC stray from God's Word, but it keeps Catholics in the CC by way of fear. Telling them there is only salvation in the CC is the opposite of the Gospel. No Protestant believes their church can save them because Jesus said salvation is ONLY through Him. No middleman needed or allowed.

Born again, definition @ 23 mins. 1. Your eyes are open to spiritual things. 2. You have an active relationship with God. 3. You're filled with the Holy Spirit. It's a transformative experience of a new life in Christ, and you can see the difference. This is what is supposed to happen, and baptism is the outward sign - that your old nature has been buried, your original sin erased, and you have risen again with Christ. Your sins are forgiven, just like your human loving parent forgives, unconditionally, when you pray with contrition. But you know you should ask, or at least repent and try to avoid doing the sins that cause separation. Just like any good family. The forgiveness is not conditional, but you don't want to shame your family. And you do good, not because it's required, but to make your people proud of you and bring your family honor. The works don't save you; they are the outpouring of your love for your neighbor... because God asks it. We are saved by grace, because of God's mercy. Works are merely the result of our love and gratitude. Sometimes it takes a really long time for all of that to sink in, and we live like sinners until we think about how we would feel if our secrets were exposed. Then, we begin to change our lives. But God is patient, and He knows we will eventually come around. Yet still, we ought to remember, the very first word of the Gospel is "Repent." And after we repent, and we ask God/Jesus for forgiveness, then we get baptized, and soon after, filled with the Holy Spirit.

I have to say...I am a Protestant Christian, but for all of Pastor Mike's commitments to fairly and adequately represent the Catholic Church, many of his representations seem to be at best thinly researched and supported by biased sources and at worst contortions that render the Catholic church to be something it isn't. Yes...I watched Trent Horn's rebuttal. And if this were a debate I'd walk out really intrigued by the Catholic position and eager to learn more about it.

Hi mike, how are you? Could you and your viewers do me a favour and search Catholicism: worth arguing about (rebutted) the channel is called “the counsel of Trent”. If you are sincere and honest about what you teach you might want to have a look at what the Catholic Church actually teaches. After all I’m sure you would not want to bear false witness even if it’s not on purpose, you seem like an honest guy. God bless.

Thank you for this video. I have been really searching for video on the difference between produstant and catholicism. Do you have videos about the similarities and difference between Judaism, Islam, and Christianity? There is so much similarities regarding the Old Testament.

you should read the deuterocanonical books the ones that Luther removed because they didn't fit into his own personal interpretation of scripture there's tons of scripture in these books that are alluded to in the New Testament, One Holy Catholic and Apostolic church.

Thanks for this little video series! I have a new sweet friend who is a devout Catholic and so full of fear because she cannot be 100% sure of her salvation. I can't wait to learn more and be able to share God's unconditional grace with her.

I'm not Catholic, I'm not Protestant, I'm not Mormon, I'm not a JW, I'm not a baptist. *I am a follower of Christ.*

I'm just asking out of honest curiosity, so please don't feel attacked, but what are the differences (If any) between mortal and cardinal sins how does a Catholic obtain forgiveness for them?

​ @slavaukraini8475 *Bible does not say "passed on saints" can pray for you or answer your prayers. Man made teachings of Roman ct.* you said We acknowledge God is the sole mediator between God and Man, however we ask them (the saints) to go God for us.

Great point about the separation of Catholics and Catholicism. I'm currently working with a Catholic who doesn't acknowledge that the NT is scripture, because it disagrees (sic) with Catholicism. I know other Catholics who are new-agers and see no conflict with their new-age faith and the teachings of the RCC. Catholics are truly all-over-the-place.

I agree. We must unapologetically confront those who teach false doctrines. As a convert TO Catholicism based on a 17 year quest for Truth, I pray for you. Not only do you set yourself up as a teacher (James 3:1 applies), but you explicitly and deliberately lead people *away* from the Church which was founded by Christ Himself. You have read much, but understood little. Read John 6, and instead of trying to reject and explain away Christ's words as symbolic, read it with fresh eyes in a quest for Truth. Ask yourself, when Jesus said that it is the SAME FLESH which will be given for the life of the world, was He being symbolic in that sentence? And if not in that sentence, how can you parse line-by-line the Lord's Words to accept what you want as literal, but reject everything before and after it as symbolic? How can you do that with intellectual integrity? Answer: You can't. There is no intellectual integrity in the Protestant (or Evangelical) explanation of that passage. Until you understand John 6, you will never understand Christianity nor the Catholic (Universal) Christian Church. Until you understand and accept John 6, you will never be able to be joined with Christ and His Bride. The Truth is that the Catholic Church is more biblically sound than any Evangelical or Protestant church ever was. The Truth is that Catholic Doctrine can be documented all the way back to the 1st Century A.D., whereas Protestant ("Reformed") doctrine was a new invention in the 1500. And with that, Galatians 1 applies.

Is not all of Babylon the Great full of weeds at this time? How is it the reaper of the weeds is so buzzy right now?

I value and appreciate the ministry here, but you take way,, way too long to get to the main thrust of your topic. Drives me nuts. Should not take you @ 20 minutes to establish that you are not talking about individual Catholics but rather Catholicism.

Mike "Im gonna get to that issue" Winger

Differences between Catholicism and Christianity? You mean, differences between catholic Christians and Protestants

​ @slavaukraini8475 *Since when Martin Luther King took out Macc you lack of knowledge?* Martin Luther King was an American Baptist minister and activist who was one of the most prominent leaders in the civil rights movement from 1955 until you said Martin Luther King took out II Maccabees does not negate its value.

Mike I just want to say this: you led me to Christ. It was in no small part thanks to your video series “evidence for the Bible” that I began to dig into Christianity. I have no doubt that God has used you to lead many to Christ and the gospel. But that being said… you are misrepresenting Catholicism. I have heard your side and I have heard the Catholics side and I have to say; they are closer to the truth than you. As a Protestant you believe in “sola scriptura.” For years I agreed with you. But there came a day when I realized something. Nowhere in scripture is there a list of the scriptures. If scripture ALONE is our divine authority then what authority decided what scriptures were even canon? After that I began to seriously study Catholicism to better answer their questions. I’m now lead to believe that the Catholic Church is the One, Holy, and Apostolic church left to us by Christ Jesus. I believe it is the truth and will begin my RCIA classes in September. I am praying for all of you, my brothers and sisters in Christ, and you as well Mike Winger. To anyone who thinks I am wrong please pray for me, just as I am for you. May God be the judge, and may He reveal the fullness of truth to us. In the Name of Jesus I pray. Amen. ✝️

Catholic means Universal. protestants are not like that.

Your messages are so refreshing....thanks so much

My brother is Antiochian Orthodox - I am curious what you have to stay on the teachings of the Orthodox church?

​ @AJA Deacon *​95% of Rc doctrines were unheard of in 1st century and not from traditions of Jesus and Apostles or Scriptures or contradicts Scriptures! Jesus, Apostles and Nt Church of the Bible had not heard or practised any of these Rc doctrines.* 1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2 commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ. Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation .. Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort. Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise? Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited. "Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose "God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas "No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure "Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori Papal infallibility Immaculate Mary Assumption of Mary Perpetual Virgin Mary as Mother of God, co mediatrix, co redemptrix, new ark of covenant, Pope as vicar, Holy Water, papacy, peter as first pope, papal succession, apostolic succession, indulgences, 7 sacraments, rosary veneration of saints and statues celibacy of priesthood canonization of saints limbo

Mike, I have enjoyed many of your videos on your channel, but as a Catholic I have to say that I am a bit disappointed at this particular presentation. I haven't yet watched the other two videos on this topic but I will so that I fully understand just where you are coming from. I found it interesting that you intend to show from the scriptures where Catholicism falls short or teaches un-biblical doctrines. My first question to you would have to be, "Where did the bible come from?" How do you know that any of it is truly inspired of God? For example. "How do you know that the gospel of Matthew is inspired, belongs in the canon, and was written by someone named Matthew?" The author never identifies himself nor signs his name to the document. Just some thoughts. I will view the rest of your presentation. God bless

You cannot be Catholic and pick and choose what part of the Catholic Doctrine you want to believe and what you don't, according to the Catholic church. If you do that you will be anathematized. So if you don't believe some of the Catholic Doctrine then you're not a Catholic. Just like Protestants can't pick and choose what they want to believe out of the Bible. If you don't believe in TOTA scriptura then you're not really a Christian.

I think it would be more accurate to say Protestant versus Catholic.

@Andy Teeter *Tales. How could R Church traditions go back to jesus when 95% of R Church practices were not from Jesus APostles or Nt Church?* you said I will always be Catholic because the Catholic tradition goes back to Jesus

Please pray for me...I feel like I have been deceived and led astray by Roman Catholicism...

BOWING, IMAGES, & HONOURING MARY: (All copied out of the protestant version of the bible) 1 kings 2:19 Solomon bows to his Mother. (he HONOURS Her) Joshua 7:6: 6 Joshua & the elders of Israel tore their clothing and lay prostrate (face down on the ground) before the Ark of the Lord. Luke 1:48 All generations will call Mary blessed. EXODUS 25:18-22 God commands Moses to make STATUES of Angels. Protestantism does not come from jesus. It began with Martin Luther in 1517 & exists Only to oppose the Catholic church which Jesus founded 15 centuries B4 the protestant revolt.

Great video

Kindness, truth and clarity. Amen!

YHVH, please bless those who watch this. Open their eyes to the truth. Remove every barrier getting in the way. Deliver from evil. Put words on the lips of your servants. Bring your children out and let them proclaim you in purity and truth. In Jesus' name, amen.

why dont you bring a couple catholic priest to represent catholicism? just to be very sure you dont misrepresent them

Did the Roman Catholic church give us our Bible? by Matt Slick 8/11/2017 Roman Catholics often say that it was their church that gave us the Bible. They sometimes claim this when defending their "Sacred Tradition," so that they might support extra-biblical teachings such as purgatory, penance, indulgences, and Mary worship. They often say the only way the Christian church knew what books are to be included in the Canon of Scripture was because it was revealed by word-of-mouth in the early church, that is, by the tradition of the Catholic Church. Furthermore, they imply that their church, not the Protestant churches, has the "authority" to decide what scripture really is. There is a problem here, though. Let me illustrate. If Jesus were to write a sentence on papyus, it would automatically be inspired. Would the Catholic church then approve of it and declare it true, or would it recognize it as true? If the RCC declared it to be true by its authority, then it is setting itself above the words of Christ. On the other hand, if it recognizes Jesus' words as authoriative, then it is doing just that, recognizing what is already authoratitive. The Christian church recognizes God's word as inspired and true. It does not declare it to be inspired and true lest it claim its own authority to decide the truth of God's word. Tradition So, back to the issue of "sacred tradition." The Catholic Church's argument implies that its tradition is superior to Scripture. Of course, we are not saying that the Roman Catholic church teaches that tradition is above Scripture. But when Sacred Tradition is claimed to be the thing by which Scripture is given, then tradition is inadvertently the thing that gives blessing and approval to the Bible. Heb. 7:7 says, "But without any dispute the lesser is blessed by the greater." The unfortunate psychological effect of saying that Roman Catholic tradition is what gave us the Bible is that it elevates their tradition to a level far greater than what is permitted in Scripture. In fact, it is contradicted by scripture: 1 Cor. 4:6, "Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that in us you might learn not to exceed what is written, in order that no one of you might become arrogant in behalf of one against the other." The Bible tells us to obey the Word of God - to not go beyond the written Word (1 Cor. 4:6). Unfortunately, the problem with an elevated status of Roman Catholic church tradition is that it results in various justifications of its non-biblical teachings such as prayer to Mary, purgatory, indulgences, penance, works of righteousness, etc. Because it has deviated from trusting God's Word alone, it has ventured into unscriptural areas. Nevertheless, did the Roman Catholic Church give us the Bible? No, it did not. First of all, the Roman Catholic Church was not really around as an organization in the first couple hundred years of the Christian Church. The Christian church was under persecution, and official church gatherings were very risky in the Roman Empire due to the persecution. Catholicism, as an organization with a central figure located in Rome, did not occur for quite some time in spite of its claim they can trace the papacy back to Peter. Second, the Christian Church recognized what was Scripture. It did not establish it. This is a very important point. The Christian Church recognizes what God has inspired and pronounces that recognition. In other words, it discovers what is already authentic. Jesus said "my sheep hear my voice and they follow me..." (John 10:27). The church hears the voice of Christ; that is, it recognizes what is inspired, and it follows the word. It does not add to it as the Roman Catholic Church has done. Therefore, it is not following the voice of Christ. Third, the Roman Catholic Church did not give us the Old Testament which is the Scripture to which Christ and the apostles appealed. If the Roman Catholic Church wants to state that it gave us the Bible, then how can they rightfully claim to have given us the Old Testament which is part of the Bible? It didn't, so it cannot make that claim. The fact is that the followers of God, the true followers of God, recognize what is and is not inspired. Fourth, when the apostles wrote the New Testament documents, they were inspired by the power of the Holy Spirit. There wasn't any real issue of whether or not they were authentic. Their writings did not need to be deemed worthy of inclusion in the Canon of Scripture by a later group of men in the so-called Roman Catholic Church. To make such a claim is, in effect, to usurp the natural power and authority of God himself that worked through the Apostles. Fifth, the Scripture says, "But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, 21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God," (2 Pet. 1:20-21). The Bible tells us that the Scriptures are inspired by the Holy Spirit. Therefore, the very nature of the inspired documents is that they carry power and authenticity in themselves. They are not given the power or the authenticity of ecclesiastical declaration. Conclusion The Christian church, as an earthly organization, recognized the Word of God (John 10:27). It didn't give us the Word of God. Also, it was the Jews who gave us the Old Testament. The authenticity of the New Testament documents rests in the inspiration of God through the apostles--not the Catholic Church. Furthermore, the Roman Catholic Church did not give us the Old Testament. The Jews did. How can the Roman Catholic Church claim it gave us the Bible when it did not give us the Old Testament? Finally, when the Catholic Church claims that it is the source of the sacred Scriptures, it is, in effect, placing itself above the word of God by claiming that through its authority we received the word of God.

Is there someway to actually reach out to you to discuss.

Please post your theological credentials, i.e, which theological school you attended, dates, area of specialization, graduation requirements (languages required etc.).

Keep speaking Mike ! Your Voice is being heard , Laura ♥️ Jesus

​ @xrendezv0usx *Bible does not teach r ct Mass (sacrificing Jesus on the altar back to God). Neither R ct transubstantiation (wafer transforms into Jesus to be eaten by R ctists).* *You are preaching m m doctrines of R ct.*

​ @Smart_Joey_ *R Catholics love to misquote Romans 4. Why? Abraham was 430 years before Moses. There was no Mosaic Law yet. Why would it be "works of the law"?* you said Also the quote from Romans is not about works in general but words of the law. Just look at Romans 3:27-31; 4:1-12. Paul is saying just because you are circumcised does not mean you are saved. Look how many times the word circumcision is used in verses 1-12.

It’s not about a religion with man made traditions. It’s about having a relationship with Jesus and following him and his teachings in the Bible

I look forward to a debate with Trent Horn of Catholic Answers and pastor Mike Winger!

Many differences between the Bible and the Catechism. One big example is the teaching of what a soul is and whether it is immortal or not. Catechism says we have a separate soul apart from the body that is born immortal. The Bible says that we ARE a soul and that we are born mortal.

​ @slavaukraini8475 *Romans 3:1-2 says Scriptures is of the Jews. Jews till this day holds on to OT 39 books. Not Roman ct's OT46 books. Clearly pointing to ROman ct adding 7 books.* *Luther was right to take out the books.* you siad Martin Luther took out II Maccabees does not negate its value.

It really doesnt matter who hated roman catholics n now is a roman catholic. The very important point is read The Holy Bible n let IT be The only Authority in Christian Doctrines! Sola Scriptura👏👏👏👏👏

Thanks for galatians 1:8, that scripture in it self should do away with the added heresies like sacraments, indulgences, penance and all the other added works for salvation

​ @Smart_Joey_ *R Catholics insist on Works Salvation. Let's see what the Bible says:* Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified Not By Works! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (Faith) and was accounted as Righteousness. Vs 4 - Works are debts . Vs 5 - he who Does Not Work is Justified . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - Faith was accounted as Righteousness. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from Works! Imputation of Righteousness by Faith. Vs 8 - imputation of Righteousness apart from Works! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made Righteous By Faith before any Works. Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of Righteousness of the Faith by imputation. Not Works! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through Righteousness Of the Faith. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (Faith) and was accounted as Righteousness . Vs 22 - Righteousness imputed on those who believed. Not those who works! Rom 11:6 - If it is works, it's no longer grace *ANother point on R Catholics taking Romans 4 out of context, claiming it refers to Works of the Law. During Abraham's time, there was NO Mosaic Law yet. So why would there be Works of the Law? Moses came 1000 years after Abraham. Yet R catholics claim Romans 4 Abraham was under Mosaic Law. Lololol*

1. Is Satan more powerful than God? 2. Are all Catholics considered "Christians?" Or, is it high time to distinguish Catholics from Christians? 3. In this day and age, when you use the word "Christian" do we automatically mean "Protestant/Born-Again/Evangelical Christian" or do we mean "Catholic Christian"? 4. Is the term "Catholic Christian" a misnomer? Thanks and God Bless.

A LETTER FROM FORMER PROTESTANTS THEOLOGIAN "When a person of common sense wishes to obtain information about anything, whether political, religious, or scientific, (or any other subject) he goes to the source for authentic and unbiased information - never to those who seek to destroy, or who are the enemies of that which he wishes to study. Not one Protestant in thousands ever seeks information concerning the Catholic Church from Catholic sources. Church history from the Apostles to the sixteenth century is not taught in any Protestant seminary, nor anywhere else amongst Protestants, as far as I know. Nor is it possessed by Protestants..... I studied theology, passed my examinations for the Methodist Church, and knew absolutely nothing of the history of Christianity, or whether there was any, during this period. When I awoke to the fact of my dense ignorance, I felt resentment; and I confess I do to this day. Where was the True Church for fifteen hundred years?" Nor is Dr. Hemmeon alone in his opinion. Says Dr. Washington Gladden, a Congregationalist of Columbus, Ohio: "Among non-Catholics, even men and women of education are woefully ignorant of the Catholic Church." And Dr. Nightengale, a Methodist in his, "Religions Of All Nations," has this to say: "In scarcely a single instance has a case concerning them (Catholics) been fairly stated; The channels of history being grossly corrupted by revisionist historians." Even Renan, writing from Rome in 1849, says: "I came to this country singularly prejudiced against the Catholic Church. I had in my mind set phrases as to this sensual, unwholesome, and subtle worship. To me Rome was the perversion of the religious instinct. I intended to ridicule freely the permanthal ingenuity of the Church of Christ and of the 'superstitions' of this land. Well, my friend, The Madonna has conquered me."

If being saved is based on faith alone and requires no works on our part why does the Our Father say “forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us”. See the Parable of the Unforgiving Debtor. Matthew 18:21-35 and James 2:14-26. “You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.”

The official Roman Catholic Catechism states = 841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims

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Protestantism is also an -ism. You can gloss over it by just calling yourself a Christian but you have to deal with the fact that there are thousands of different contradictory Protestant doctrines and sects and these are increasing in number with every passing year. Scripture alone does not lead to Christian unity. There is a clear need for a structure in order for Christians to be one as is Christ's clear prayer for us. I see no Protestant solution for this.

Mike.... you distinguish Catholics to Christians. My friend come on seriously? Ey why don’t you reach out to catholic answers live and Trent Horn would like to talk to you on his podcast and maybe you can share it with your RU-vid followers. Take care mate.

​ @toneyh1 *False claims again. Scriptures of modern day Bibles came 300 years before any Bible Roman religion claimed to have compiled. By ad100s, Scriptures of modern day Bibles were already in all churches.* you said catholicsm says the bible is for everyone but decided by the church in the 4th century.

​ @Smart_Joey_ *YOu are wrong once again. Bible does not say that. You omitted some words so as to cover up your R ct m m doctrines* Bible says: we are saved by grace through faith. Not just by grace.* you said we have been saved by God's grace. Catholics believe that.