Ray, there is absolutely no need to further explain. But it is true how the novice thinks. I am so happy for you that the drive shaft did not pole vault you or the vehicle back to the shop.
SERIOUSLY! Pole vaulting an F150 on a Friday would seriously violate rule number 1 Edit: go back to the long vid and present the new evidence in the pinned comment thread. It will be hilarious! The link back is at the end screen of this video.
@@Lensman864 , I agree, cause the armchair mechanics with the power of 'google search' must be satisfied since they dictate the terms on how this works, not the experience tech who makes a living at this job. What was he thinking? That is what your logic sounds like to me.
Ray, remember that half the people on RU-vid are children and half of the remaining 50% have never worked on a car in their lives. No need to justify your actions to these people. Thanks for the video!
So, let me get this straight. People are saying that Ray, knowing the drive shaft had a very good chance of separating, took the truck to the street and ran the risk of it actually coming apart while driving, which could and probably would have been catastrophic to not only the truck, but possibly could have caused an accident with other vehicles. Now that would be some dedication to making a video. Ridiculous assertion. The diagnosis and fix of the drive shaft and related components was interesting.
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1:09 his excuse for not faking the video is that: he THOUGHT he was "annihilating the ring gears" of the customers vehicle by continuing to drive it in that condition. And he had no idea the driveshaft was making the noise and that he was NOT causing further damage to the ring gears. Ahhh, the integrity of intentional damage to a customers vehicle
I mean i suppose you could parts cannon the vehicle till you find the problem. Or spend days tearing it apart until you find the actual problem... or, you know... test a hypothesis with the intention of replacing said defective parts. If he expected the ring gears to be bad, he almost certainly intended to replace them. At that point a little more use to confirm the diagnosis was of little consequence.
@@RenniaTrayvold right. Because the ring gears coming apart wouldn't cause more damage to additional parts!! I mean, putting it on the lift and putting your hand on the rear axle would show how loose the driveshaft was before doing additional damage to "test a hypothesis". Always start with the LEAST intrusive test, especially when it takes less than 5 minutes. You don't START with "let's drive it until something breaks"
@@epstein_isnt_dead7726 weird. That was not the impression of his plan that I got from either this vid or the original video... but I suppose his phrasing doesn't come across to all folks.
@@RenniaTrayvold how many ways are there to interpret "I kept driving it thinking it was annihilating the ring gears"? Pretty hard to not take that exactly as he said it. And his actions of driving the vehicle while it was making all of the noise is further confirmation of those intentions. What did you hear that made you think otherwise?
i was wondering in the initial vid why you had cameras under the vehicle for the test drive, you don't normally. however i am quite happy to accept the 'customer states diff problems' explanation, your honesty has been proven over and over again.
Aint modern camera tech GREAT? In the past we used to get some poor "SMUCK" to hang off the tailgate and look underneath a truck in motion for noise.... Today, just hang a camera instead(sigh)... DANG it was fun watching the New Guy falling off the back of the pickup truck back in the day... ;P
@@Streamer687 You mean like me, acting as the safety harness, holding the flight engineer outside the door, looking under the wing, because we had one green one red for landing, not a good thing. Looked locked, every cycle, though to make sure we did land with fumes, and it is rather disconcerting to see a fire engine, with foam cannon at the ready, pacing us down the runway. But smoothest landing ever.
@@toddp3314 Agreed, no reason to film the carrier bearing assembly coming apart. Clearly this should have been inspected and not just filmed, additional damage to expensive parts could have taken place. And, the replacement Dorman drive shaft was clearly bent per the post-repair footage indicated. Comments were made about it not being acceptable, but no indication it was replaced. This video plus the previous sketchy electrical troubleshooting video causing this subscriber to question my choice.
Retired (Canadian) Trucker(25+years driving) here, as i said earlier, this kind of total destruction on a driveshaft is a Rare Occurance. Its even rarer to get the WHOLE thing on a Video, and i thank Ray for providing this oportunity to see it actualy happen. In my personal opinion with my liftime(66 years old) knowledge of Vehicles i say "NOPE it wasn't fake". Ive seen enough blown drivelines/gearboxes/rearends/axles/springs/(its a long list)... in my past driving career to know personally when its the REAL thing(as is everyone in Ray's world too). Thank you again Ray, your doing an Outstanding Job as an Automotive Technician... along with providing this RU-vid service to the world.
I've been in a car that lost it's propshaft while traveling. Little Morris Minor, long story involving a gearbox from an MG that had a longer rear housing than the original, and a very VERY dodgy shortening of the propshaft by an amateur (not me, I was only about 8yo, just going along for the test ride.) Propshaft dropped at the en-shortening point (gearbox end) while doing about 60-80kph (40-50mph), proceeded to embed itself into the road and bounced violently around with absolutely no control. Noise was intense, as was the vibrations and dust as detritus filled the cabin. Worse was the long, thirsty "walk of shame" along the thankfully deserted dirt road back to get a tow.
Ray, haters are going to hate, mostly because they couldn't do what you have accomplished. You document everything. You show exactly what it took to diagnose the fault on camera. You fix things for clueless drivers IMHO, shouldn't be allowed to own a vehicle.
I think most people bemieve that you had no idea the drive shaft was going to fall out when you test drove the car. I think the last camera angle is when people felt you knew since at that point it was hanging down.
No, it was the side camera angle at the moment of separation which looked out of place with the rest. Nobody's trolling. Despite that, Fords do indeed suckabagadix.
I use two gopros on rubber magnet mounts. One test drive they were on the bumper looking forward, and the other test drive (I parked and moved them in the parking lot) they were on the right side looking sideways at the driveshaft and left towards the axle from the front side. That's that footage that we see in this video. The shaft ripping apart scene was from the right mounted most forward camera that was pointed at the driveshaft. I was looking to capture the rear wheels locking up combined with pinion slip because that's what I though was happening in the differential. The driveshaft was where it was suppose to be when I moved the cameras to the side of the truck. I was going in back and forth circles on the gravel and in between reverse and drive it came apart.
I have to admit I wondered when I saw the first video. However your explanation was quite reasonable and, having followed your journey for quite while now, saw no need to disbelieve it.
Everybody that has been watching your videos for years knows that you don't fake videos for views. You're an honest mechanic, and an entertaining one at that. Who cares what those other idiots think.
LOL It's insulting to thing that if I were going to fake content, I would choose to do it with a driveshaft. The better plan would be to buy an old Buick 3.8 Le Sabre, drain all the oil and drive it till it dies. Then fake the tow truck delivery, then stage a video "Customer States: DROVE WITH NO OIL" But I don't have time for all that nonsense
@@RainmanRayOffDuty I got all excited reading this, thinking "Future Video!!!", but yeah, the shop seems super-busy. Seems like the guys are working out for you, and the clients keep coming. Did I hear the word "expansion" when you updated us on the broken lift?
@@RainmanRayOffDuty Very cool, looking forward to it! BTW my daughter absolutely loves your wife, she couldn't speak more highly of her. You guys are awesome. Thank you.
I was a sceptic but didn’t post a comment. Seeing the middle of the shaft framed right in the middle of the shot, and seeing the same camera framing the rear axle also raised my suspicions. I guess you’re using a 180 or 360 lenses where you can frame shots anywhere in the “dome” during editing. Great footage.
Ray should have explained the camera details better. A 4K wide angle video is often edited to show only the most relevant part of the frame. Edit: In another comment Ray says he had two cameras attached. Should have explained that better in the video description.
Never thought it was faked but think the confusion comes from the camera angle change from the rear end to the center of the driveshaft at the time of failure.
So the footage of the driveshaft coming completely apart in the parking lot was somewhat 'staged', the actual problem wasn't. I can see where people are skeptical, since there just happened to be a camera looking right at the driveshaft coupling when it failed.
Ray love the videos on your channels keep it up. One thing I noticed in this under vehicle video is when the truck moves forward or backwards the rear differential where the drive shaft attatches moves alot up and down pulling the shaft away from the center point connection near the carrier bearing. I had the same thing happen on my truck the movement of the differential pulling up and down weakened the connection causing the failure of both the carrier bearing and the center connection point of the drive shaft. A set of Traction bars that connect to the axle housing and the frame solved the issue. if you watch the footage closely you can see the movement and when you shifted to reverse the change in movement caused the total failure when you shifted back to drive.
Ray, you don’t seem to be the type who would fake it. I have watched your channel long enough to believe you are a man of integrity. Don’t change America needs more like you.
That truck was a wild one for sure! It's amazing the driveshaft hung on for as long as it did. Probably a good day for the customer to buy a lottery ticket.
If you watch only the drive shaft, you can see it wobble slightly in the first few seconds of motion. Then it straiten out and then deteriorate quickly.
One time the carrier bearing went out in my stepdad‘s 2006 dodge ram 3500 four-wheel-drive I removed the rear driveline from the vehicle, put it in the bed of his truck and moved it from where it was to an easy spot to get towed using four-wheel-drive and just the front end/axle.
your instincts was there was something not right underneath so you put a camera there just in case, i would have too , done the same a few times as i can be under and driver at the same time, sports cameras make great second eyes and bonus footage to boot
Maybe it's just me but it seemed pretty straightforward when the driveshafts parted ways that there was more going on here. The torsion on the rear axle when you put it into reverse was a big giveaway let alone the obvious destruction of the carrier bearing bracket discovered later - that thing had been disintegrating for some time...
Still, that's so lucky. I usually have things like this happen miles from home where there's no comfortable place to wait for a tow truck. And this is in Portland, OR where there's neighborhoods with multiple Starbucks.
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We've seen under car shots before, i assumed it was something you did as a matter of course, if nothing note worthy happens it doesn't make it into the final video. Its a shame there's so many negative folk about. Love the videos over here in the UK. Stay well fella and all the best the wife unit and family.
Based, solid, pure. Those are words I use to tell others about Ray. Flat out, we have a guy here with zero to hide. In some ways Ray has it super easy! Just doing exemplary work while being able to explain it reasonably and clearly requires nothing else but for some basic human stuff: fun, games, jokes, play.
Ray your video's are fair when inspection on car's When the key board person that are not auto work shop trained they wright bad things. I been driving in UK from 1988 and if I feel something not right with brakes or drive train not performance is shaking on speedup and slow down it time to get advice to get a replacement part to correct issues or clucking from worn bushings or engine mounts. Carry on the good work I have been watching you when working at the other work shop with Peter and you opened the workshop most days taken care of compressor drainage.
Ray, Life happens. One never knows what may happen. Sometimes unbelievable things happen. Maintenance of this Ford Pick-up was delayed too long by the vehicle's owner. This issue should have been repaired a long time ago. This pick-up truck has had a hard life. Glad you were able to fix it.
Nobody hated Ray they just asked for an explanation of what happened. Did you READ the comments in the original video thread? It's people like you who are turning this into an 'us against them' political flame war that are the problem.
You said you usually check the car over before you test drive. Would you have spotted the broken holder upper (carrier bracket)of the drive shaft if you had done that check first?
Ray.. No need justify the "Noodle Truck".... Glad it didn't happen to the customer Who drove it to the Shop or to you while driving it around the parking lot. Fantastic repair video on it. Dorman for the win!
Repair guy sees broken car breaking worse isn't news. The entire reason the repair industry exists is to work on stuff that's breaking.I do believe the family business is fake though because I have a hard time understanding how this guy got married. His better three-quarters is obviously destined for sainthood.
Greetings: Laws of physics did not lie. On another note; in such experiences I have diagnosed , I do a visual based on my audible analysis...which tends 2 B very accurate. I heard the audio in the presentation and could have diagnosed it without looking at it. Thx 4 the share. Keep up the good work.
hey Ray the idiots calling your videos fake probably do not even own a car and just wanna find something to complain about just ignore them and keep doing the great job your doing brother
If you had enough time to place cameras under the vehicle. You should have had enough time to see that the carrier bearing support was missing. This is hilarious.
It's unfortunate that you didn't show any video on the road from the camera that was used to record the actual break point; an odd decision. It's very interesting to see the deteriorating shaft though as you drive.
I saw that happen as a kid. My parents were building a house on twenty acres with no sewer. Dad had a septic tank an leach lines laid out. The lines needed a bed of gravel which was brought in on a dump truck. The gravel was dumped where my brother and could load it into a wheelbarrow and lay in the bedding in the leach lines. When the driver finished dropping the load, he lowered the bed and put the truck in gear to leave. The drive shaft dropped off at the differential end and just spun.
Thank you for the explanation. The additional video here helps understand the previous one. Don't knock some of those who questioned because we did not see the full - but at same time there is no problem in asking questions as long as it respectful. Besides Mr Ray would never pull a furphy - Mrs Wife is there to keep him in line. The only thing Mr Ray lies about is how much coffee he drinks for real.
Drive shafts absolutely will fall out. My brother was driving his modified/lifted k5 blazer when he was slowing down for a stop sign at the bottom of a hill. He sheared off both ends of the front drive shaft (full time 4x4). As it was bouncing around it took out his trans coolant lines, fuel and brake lines. What a mess to put back together.
I admire Ray for admitting he makes mistakes, calling out fools like over this driveshaft or when get bad parts in. I also admire his hard work, his never using any swear words, diag skills and doing the job right.
Heck I would have done the same. If a customer says Noise from underneath, I would first hang my magnetic Cameras underneath the isolate the noise. It was a coincidence you got a catastrophic failure in the process. Luckily the drive shaft didn't decide to pole vault and cause extensive damage.
