Cessna Pilot Causes CHAOS at North Texas Airport! 

Exactly! "PRITB, you are NOT -- Repeat NOT cleared to land. You are cleared to enter left downwind for 17L. Report mid-field. Please read back instruction." It would seem she did not have radar contact because when he said he was seven miles out, she asked him seven miles in what direction. So he was a ghost as far as she was aware.

She may not have heard it. I don't think it should be ATC's responsbility to decode the English language for pilots.

@@alienb1212 "Understand " is a way of asking for confirmation of an instruction. My understanding is its more a non-US method, but ATC should be confirming the readbacks when wrong. Technically should have made him repeat the cleared to land segment on one of his short readbacks too. His readback saves him a corrective for sure.

@@alienb1212 She said: 'Enter left downwind'. He responded: Clear to land That was very clear and should have generated an immediate response from the controller. The aircraft WASN'T cleared to land. There was another aircraft coming in on final, and that pilot turning base and final when he did cut off the aircraft that WAS cleared to land. If I'm on a downwind leg and the controller tells me I'm cleared to land, I take that as I can turn my base leg and final leg at my discretion and land. If I'm not cleared to land (which this guy wasn't), I can't turn base and final like that, because I might run into another aircraft (which this guy almost did). The pilot certainly made his share of mistakes, but it was the controller's responsibility to correct that pilot when he read back the wrong instruction.

I mean sure, but when was the last time I was flying with several planes in the pattern and got a landing clearance that early. Never.

I noticed that too, right away. She is "behind the traffic scene"

Yes, I noticed that. It was the controlled that screwed up but the pilot should have been listening and the he would have realized what was going on.

​@@garybononot entirely...BOTH were in error and BOTH were responsible. Yes, the controller should have caught it and corrected it, but the pilot was grossly in error as well, and failed numerous times to follow fars in not responding / not responding correctly to control instructions...I'd have brashered him and had a chat once on the ground...

37T didn’t read back 17L either, he’s just as sloppy.

She said “you can’t do that” twice, as IF that’s specific enough for ANYONE to understand. And then when she was flustered she went 250 words per minute to a non-English speaker on IFR and already having issues following approach plates and directions.

@@RetreadPhoto She also used CB gibberish, "stepped on."

Not the best controller.

Absolutely! She should have said, You are NOT cleared to land; repeat NEGATIVE clearance."

*"The [c]ontroller* ISN’T controlling anything! " I was thinking the same.

Yeah.

He did readback 17L cleared to land at 4:15, if that counts, but mostly didn't read back any instructions.

@@BobbyBattistaIt doesn’t count because he wasn’t reading back the instruction.

@@tjfSIM fair :) also I’m glad to see someone use literally, without meaning “not literally” 😂

@@BobbyBattista Ha ha! Yes I think it's fair to say 'literally' does apply here 😂

Everyone here had bad english

Because they didn't use the callsign. She probably should have said "what is your callsign" after that call, but, pilot not using the callsign was a huge issue there.

We have it all the time at KGYR. It's no big deal if pilots actually listen and act on the instructions given. And North TX is actually parallel runways - 17L & R.

@@ianshere8899 I’ve seen it work like clockwork, as long as the controllers are good and the pilots speak an acceptable level of English. She never told him he was number 3 behind the Seneca, never corrected him when he said “cleared to land” instead of “midfield downwind,” didn’t chastise him for not reporting it, etc. She basically ignored him. Had an opportunity to tell him to do a right 360 or extend his downwind for spacing. She was just getting her lips beat. May get better over time, it’s not an easy job. But getting flustered and freezing just makes it worse. As soon as she saw the guy was foreign she should have given him extra care and attention, not ignore him and let him do what he wants.

Well then you better stay away from controlled fields

TOOOOOO many foreigners in our airspace😮😮😮

​@@ianshere8899sure, but it doesn't make any difference since they were clearly only using one of them.

Portugeese ? Eu understando clearo to lando, obrigato.. LOL..

Has to be. Although there are a ton of immigrants living in Texas. I moved from Dallas 40 years ago, but go back several times a year and it's a whole 'nother world now.

​@@cj20080I can only imagine....smh

@@cj20080 rich immigrants? Flight school is not cheap.

@n578md2 maybe we should stop that. Why are we letting them risk out airways? Oh yeh, the almighty dollar.

A really bad training airport

Absolutely 😆😆

Absolutely. 🙃

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@n578md2 Tower is not calling for landings on 17R OR 17L. She is only instructing them of which traffic pattern to use and land on Rwy 17. Ideally, they should all be flying a standard left pattern for Rwy 17 (the longer left one), with traffic from the east dropping to pattern attitude and speed, then making a right 45 degree angled turn to enter the left downwind at midfield. Planes approaching from the left should cross midfield at least 1500 AGL then turn around to enter the left downwind to 17 the same way. Imagine the Indy 500 with all cars going in the same pattern except two, who want to do it backwards. This controller is making pilots look all over the place for other airplanes during one of the most dangerous phases of flight. She should be retrained, or removed to Ground. Maybe she can get them to taxi safely? After about 4 minutes of listening to that cluster, I would have announced I would be canceling landing and departing to another properly run airport at least 50 miles away. The wasted gas, time, and non-dinged-up airplane would be worth my life for sure.

Well PRITB is a Brazilian call sign...

Lots of international flight training students at this airport. The ESL factor apparently leads to excitement some days.

I think there is a better way to describe the situation. As a foreign pilot myself that is fluent in several languages, it can be challenging to understand fast talking controllers in busy airspace. Nevertheless it is your duty to ensure your proficiency before you go flying. We all have “accents” and just depends where you are. I do remember an USAF C-130 that landed in Patagonia few years back with no clearance just because no one on-board spoke proper Spanish…so yes, it can happen to anyone.

@@josegregoriogonzalez874 Well said. Muy bien dicho!

Clear the approach is not cleared to land.

ATC is not supposed to clear an aircraft for a visual approach unless the pilot reported the preceding traffic in sight and is instructed to follow it, right? I don't think they were told to follow any specific aircraft, at least not that I heard.

Would have been a waste of time. He was intent on doing WTF he wanted to and her best bet would have been to re-sequence the other guys and concentrate on getting his a$$ on the ground and out of the way! I'm glad I was a few hundred miles away from there while all that was going on!!

He was IFR, everyone else was VFR. Does that make a difference?

@@briansmyla8696 He was definitely not IFR. You don't do the 45 degree entry to downwind in IFR operations. You would follow tower instructions and the established instrument approach procedures on the appropriate chart for the specific types of approach to be executed. No instrument approach procedure would make him fly the path he did. His head was just not screwed on right.

That, and reading back instructions for 487BK (at 2:57) Pilot does not understand proper English.

ATC screwed up by not extending downwind... she is out of her element... and left and right procedures in play... a disaster ready to happen!!

@@pesto12601 I agree! It's sad, but controllers MUST be prepared to deal with idiots, cheaters, and dishonest people.

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the great prophet rick james was right.....cocaine's a helluva drug

No radar at this airport

Future Expansion: The airport may plan to add a parallel runway in the future. By designating the existing runway as "left" (L), they leave room for a "right" (R) runway. Historical Reasons: The airport might have had multiple runways in the past, and the labeling has been retained for consistency or regulatory reasons. Consistency with Nearby Airports: To avoid confusion with nearby airports or to maintain consistency within an airport complex that includes multiple airports, a single runway might be labeled as "left" or "right." Operational Procedures: Some airports use these designations to align with standard operational procedures or air traffic control practices.

as Hammondgaming says, many reasons. In this case, Historical Reason - 17R/35L technically still exists, but isn't used much, as it's half the width of 17L/35R and has had useable length decreased to about 1/3 it's original, only going from taxiway Bravo to Echo, with the South end completely ripped out, though you can still see where it was.

@@HammondGaming

@@davidjose9808 yes?

And China, and apparently a few other places. That's a controller's nightmare.

I'm pretty sure one of those guys is Asian and one is Indian.

@@pyme495would not be surprised if she asks for a transfer out of that melting pot.

@@pyme495and one has a stutter to boot!

Yes, exactly. And another glaring example that not all cultures are equal...... Apparently, flight schools will push along anyone who can pay the tuition, which these days is mainly foriegners. And we all know why

It’s not exactly something we deal with a lot at GYI. I fly here and rarely hear that many ESLs at once. That being said I’ve also heard our tower successfully navigate lost ESLs and run the airport simultaneously. It’s not unusual to have only one controller here for an entire 12 hour shift, but lately we’ve had the luxury of having two. I normally (but not always) hear her on ground. She might have got overwhelmed with calls. Not an excuse but FWIW it’s normally not like that here.

He was headed to 'Texas Turbine', so he probably frequents the airport, and is a commercial pilot.

The controller's errors are hers. PRITB's decision to not read back anything, to not follow instructions, to ignore transmissions to them, and to instead "follow" instructions given to other pilots are all on PRITB.

@@senseisecurityschool9337 "PRITB's decision to not read back anything," You're misrepresenting what happened.

@@smark1180 That's a straightforward fact - they didn't read back most of what they were supposed to read back. That's not an opinion - listen to the tape. They didn't read back. Then they turned left into the traffic which was turning left to avoid them. Again, that's clearly on the tape. It's not a possibility or an idea, they clearly stated they were turning left, after ATC told the other plane to turn left in order to avoid PRITB.

@@senseisecurityschool9337 "PRITB's decision to not read back *anything,"* "they didn't read back *most* of what they were supposed to read back." That's better.

It's a Brazilian registered aircraft, probably with a Brazilian pilot. International traffic has nothing to do with your diversity.

Not in this case apparently

Diversity has nothing to do with general human stupidity. Saying shit like this makes you sound like a white supremacist

LMFAO 😂

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