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Challenges of Building an Electric Log Truck: The Hunt for North American Axles 

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We share the behind-the-scenes journey of trying to source North American-made axles, electric motors, and gear-driven sets for our electric log truck project. We embarked on a mission to find components closer to home, but the reality hit hard-we couldn't find a single one!
In this video, we spill the beans on our attempts to collaborate with a company, only to face challenges in purchasing their electric axles due to being a non-OEM retrofit. The struggle was real, and we even tried reaching out to multiple suppliers, only to hit roadblocks.
Undeterred, we decided to take matters into our own hands. We custom-spec'd and had our axles built for Edison, ensuring they meet our standards and are ready to power our electric log truck. The entire supply chain is now secured, and spare parts are just a click away.
Join us as we dive deep into the technical details of these custom axles, showcasing the engineering brilliance behind them. From planetary rear ends to the powerful 250-kilowatt electric motors, we cover it all. Plus, we address the challenges of syncing axles without traditional interaxle lockers, revealing the innovative solutions we've implemented.
And hold on tight for a surprising twist! We unintentionally opened up new possibilities for loggers by providing them with the power to tackle steeper blocks. It seems our quest for efficiency inadvertently led to increased access to challenging terrain.
So, buckle up for an adventure filled with unexpected turns, challenges, and triumphs as we build the Edison electric log truck from the ground up. Don't forget to hit that like button, subscribe for more updates, and join us on this electrifying journey! ⚡🚚
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🔧 Built by Truckers, for Truckers 🔧
Founded by Chace Barber and Eric Little in 2016, Edison Motors is a testament to the trucking spirit. Beginning with a 1969 Kenworth Logging Truck named "Old Blue," they journeyed from Merritt, BC, hauling logs to the Yukon and drilling rigs in Alberta. Frustrated with newer trucks, they rebuilt classics from the frame up, expanding into power generation and off-grid solar systems in 2019. Their journey led to the creation of the Edison Truck, a robust electric truck tailored to logging and heavy vocational industries.
🔩 Upgrade Without Replacing: Edison Electrification Kit 🔩
Keep trucks on the road longer with the Edison Electrification kit. Upgrade your driveline to electric without replacing the entire truck. Ideal for vocational applications, this kit is a cost-effective solution. Unlike other electric trucks, Edison Motors offers customer choice. Choose between Rebuilding (utilizing existing cab and frame rails) or Remanufacturing (brand new frame and chassis).
🚚 Payload Efficiency: The Weight Balance 🚚
Edison Trucks match the weight of a normal diesel truck. With reduced motor weight and additional fuel balancing out battery weight, experience efficiency and increased payload capacity. The L series, though slightly heavier, remains comparable to a normal diesel truck.
🛠️ Keep Your Equipment with Rebuilt Trucks 🛠️
For vocational trucks, keep your equipment with a rebuilt truck. Edison's e-pto and control system integrate seamlessly. No need to replace your entire body when upgrading to an electric truck.
🔧 Bespoke Manufacturing: Handcrafted to Your Needs 🔧
The manufacturing process at Edison Motors is a testament to their commitment to customer satisfaction. Each Edison Truck undergoes a meticulous five-step process, from frame and rolling chassis preparation to final touches and rigorous testing. The focus is on building a truck that reflects the customer's requirements, embracing the philosophy of "Building The Truck Of The Future With The Quality Of The Past."
🔌 Electric or Diesel-Electric: Your Power, Your Choice 🔌
Edison Motors offers both fully electric and diesel-electric vocational trucks based on customer demands. The onboard generator ensures continuous operation in areas lacking charging infrastructure.
💡 Advantages of Electric: Power, Torque, Longevity 💡
Edison Trucks bring increased power, torque, reliability, and longevity. Inspired by electric freight trains, regenerative ability harnesses energy for efficient uphill climbs.
⚙️ Efficiency Redefined: Diesel-Electric Technology ⚙️
Diesel-electric technology delivers peak load demand energy supply. Batteries initiate movement, and the diesel generator recharges the battery, capturing braking energy for restarts. The generator's constant RPM eliminates turbo lag.
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@mdc503
@mdc503 Год назад
“Instead of being a customer, we became competition.”, I love it! I am so excited for you guys. Just amped!
@Neojhun
@Neojhun Год назад
Sounds like the problems Rimac Automobili had. Now they are a supplier.
@wahyuhidayat-jo1zb
@wahyuhidayat-jo1zb 9 месяцев назад
It's just make manufacture goes down when there are no collaboration 😢
@trentlewis1473
@trentlewis1473 Год назад
I will never understand why some companies only wish to deal with the big name brands. Every company has started small and it's regrettable that so many have forgotten that you have to start somewhere. Keep doing what you're doing , I look forward to the day when they see what a fantastic opportunity they have missed out on.
@mattlane2282
@mattlane2282 Год назад
3 years out... they do not need the business...
@99snubby
@99snubby Год назад
Because the deep state is trying to kill small business
@infernaldaedra
@infernaldaedra Год назад
​@@mattlane2282they got bigger fish to fry clearly
@IIGrayfoxII
@IIGrayfoxII Год назад
Because they're scared that they could piss off the big companies. Some big companies do cancel contracts with manufactures due to them selling parts to some small company.
@fuckinted7372
@fuckinted7372 Год назад
sounds like the government
@ArK047
@ArK047 Год назад
North American manufacturing needs a renaissance, but until then I hope your supply chains and production works out!
@tdwebste
@tdwebste Год назад
Canada needs to retain its Engineers, so that it can engage in automated manufacturer. To be competitive Canada needs to loosen Patents on goods used in manufacturing within Canada.
@liuyifei1989
@liuyifei1989 Год назад
Its called outsourcing and it's simply cheaper for corporations to manufacture products overseas. Since labor is significantly cheaper in other countries. Furthermore the supply chain is very integrated for overseas for manufacturing. It would take billions of dollars for relocate manufacturing back to North America. It just doesn't make any financial sense. Furthermore, it keeps cots low for everyone. Would you pay 50% or 70% more for a product only because is made in Canada ? Lol
@liuyifei1989
@liuyifei1989 Год назад
​@@tdwebste it has nothing to do with that, it's all about lower cost with manufacturing overseas.
@tdwebste
@tdwebste Год назад
@@liuyifei1989 Tried hiring top graduate engineers from Canadian University? Many Canadian Universities have great undergrad COOP programs giving companies access to students and giving student work experience. But Canadians Universities lack equivalent programs for graduates students. The US has paid Graduate Student internships. Which means it Canada spends a lot of money on Engineering talent only to give it away. Why is Canada more expensive? Cannot retain skills and cost of working is much higher, due to high housing cost near manufacturers. I have relatives with factories in China and workers simply don't have the expenses so can be paid a lot less and still have money to buy the most expensive Iphones and other luxury items.
@agerrgerra1361
@agerrgerra1361 Год назад
@@liuyifei1989 I worked for a company that moved some electronics manufacturing to a facility in Mexico, I think the driving reason was that it avoids the overseas tariffs charged on components from China, since Mexico is part of the NAFTA/USMCA. There could be some benefit in diversifying manufacturing that way, but that's another debate.
@ChainringTours
@ChainringTours Год назад
I don't know where you are in ability to have extra employees, but PLEASE consider having your own person in China at the factory that double checks things. Not a person they hire for you, someone who's paycheck comes directly from you, who is paid better than most people so they want to keep the job. That way you can have someone giving you the real situation, doing a double check of the inspections, etc. I used a factory there for clothing and I wished I had someone there to look over things. You have to think what the cost of air freighting replacements, the cost of the delays, the other issues. It may not be worth it now without production happening, but in time it might be worth it.
@kiyosenl.3889
@kiyosenl.3889 Год назад
Ive heard of quite a few companies doing this, gotta say as someone who once spent a year fixing chinese factory f*ck ups in the machine shop its better to have someone there catch it first, and the owner of the company never enjoyed getting a call at 2 am from a chinese guy literally saying "we make better" as it always means they tried to change something and your next few shipments will be ruined
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 Год назад
Do you work to CE (European) standards? Can I see your quality procedures? Ah so. Yes we do CE. Where you want the sticker?
@outintheboondocks1466
@outintheboondocks1466 11 месяцев назад
Working with a bro who has tons of experience in China I can tell you that this is excellent advice! It's called the law of diminishing quality, and it's a real thing! They'll give you the absolute best to show you what they can do but they'll start to scrimp and cut corners when they think they can get away with it.
@orbatos
@orbatos 10 месяцев назад
This is a really good point. Active oversight really is necessary both to keep an eye on them and to build long term relationships.
@markmatt9174
@markmatt9174 7 месяцев назад
Company I worked for (last day was last Friday) bought almost all our stuff from China. Having a good Importer who speaks Chinese and English is invaluable. Agree w above people our owners dad went there often he's 82 now & still talking about his next trip
@jordanabendroth6458
@jordanabendroth6458 Год назад
I love that you just decided to say "screw it, I'll do it myself" to the big manufacturer when they decided to be unreasonable.
@GWIZZ2
@GWIZZ2 9 месяцев назад
Nice work guys! I haul logs in Alberta, I have often dreamed of this type of system. Having powered axles on the trailers would reduce spinning out (empty or loaded), cut down on truck assist by pulling or pushing with the dozer or other machine, reduce chain up, eliminate dropped drivelines, greatly improve safety on the road, improve efficiency with regenerative breaking and more. We are pulling king b sets with 85000kg gross. I see this technology being the norm within a decade. You are carrying out the work that Letourneau started in the 50s. Keep up the good work.
@bigguy78246
@bigguy78246 Год назад
Props to visiting the factory. Easy to spot issues at the source. Can’t wait to see it moving this down the road.
@slunasaurusrex
@slunasaurusrex Год назад
Congrats on finally getting axles! The only reliability issue I foresee with the integrated motor is that it's part of the unsprung mass so it's going to be bouncing up and down with the axles across bumps. One thing electronics hate is vibrations. I hope any PCB's or other electronics in the drive unit are silastic'd and potted up like crazy. I can see solder connections fatigue failing and causing issues with this design. But I'm sure you guys are already way ahead of me with that ! keep it up!
@Birdman3131
@Birdman3131 Год назад
Not saying don't pot it as this does feel like a situation where it might be warranted but I see it being used as anti repair more often than circuit protection.
@orbatos
@orbatos 10 месяцев назад
Further testing with seen some modifications I'm sure, but the issues you are worried about are historically handled via a combination of mechanical connections, solder, support and strain relief. Solder by itself is not usually considered structurally sound in industrial application.
@oldfarthacks
@oldfarthacks 7 месяцев назад
The B2 Bomber has a situation where the vibrations in the electronics bays is around 17 Gs of random vibration. The electronics there were built to take that. The vibration levels in these axles will be far less than that. As to unsrung weight, that will again not be a problem. These are Heavy Trucks, running at low speeds. They are not F1 race cars. The tires will stay on the ground just fine. But indeed, congrats to Edison for getting a product that they can use to build their product. Now they just need to move to bring it in house in the long run, as Tesla is doing with their products. Henry Ford was right about the best model for manufacturing is to bring raw materials in at one end and have finished product pop out the other.
@JonesDieselPerforman
@JonesDieselPerforman Год назад
We used to make damn near everything we needed In Canada IN CANADA
@danielkingery2894
@danielkingery2894 Год назад
You didn't used to vote for the folks that have been voted for over the last two decades either....
@TheRustiestShackleford
@TheRustiestShackleford Год назад
@@danielkingery2894if you think they voted for Trudeau, you’re outta your mind. The Canadian government is controlled by the same backstage string pullers as the US government. We didn’t vote for Biden. Our vote has never mattered!
@celuler22
@celuler22 Год назад
America is in the same boat its impossible to compete with slave labor
@kiyosenl.3889
@kiyosenl.3889 Год назад
​@@celuler22 its also hard to compete with a country that ignores all human rights laws, patent laws, and who hacks into companies stealing intellectual property and other sensitive data and who has literally directly hacked and stolen combined trillions of dollars from companies, its not just labor costs that have brought and kept manufacturing in china, its economic warfare
@noticer3721
@noticer3721 Год назад
@@celuler22 It is possible to compete with slave labor, we do it everyday by not purchasing garbage Chinese tier products and instead purchase American made. However that doesn't mean there isn't a massive amount of idiots gobbling up the garbage.
@TheRedMekanik
@TheRedMekanik Год назад
For the powered trailer idea, I wonder if the trailer company that pressed the frame rails would be interested in collaboration. They could be a cool resource to help develop that tech.
@dogefort8410
@dogefort8410 Год назад
Edison Emergency Trailer Traction. I'm calling it. Slap on a wireless button in the cab and have traction assist when needed, but not otherwise. Instant adding EV horsepower to otherwise unmodified classic diesel trucks, once the concept is proven WAY easier to sell Edison Hybrids to these truckers after putting some miles on that kind of rig.
@olivergunn2796
@olivergunn2796 Год назад
Look at what krone in collaboration with trailer dynamics are doing in Germany, a trailer with a giant electric motor on the middle axle with either a 400 or 600 kWh battery underneath It has a sensor on the kingpin that detects how hard the trailer is being pulled and uses that data in combination with map data of hills to assist in the most effective way, this is a good idea for backwards compatibility but I think they should develop some cambus interface so the truck or the driver can fully control it, especially for regenerative breaking and low speed traction aid
@whodahellru8124
@whodahellru8124 Год назад
@@olivergunn2796 they can also add in some yaw rate sensors and control vehicle/trailer dynamics to avoid jackknifing or excessive sway. Possibly even torque vectoring for steering.
@peterlanum
@peterlanum Год назад
I had a hydrostatic drive on the trailer, but this is better.
@guentherwilke2055
@guentherwilke2055 10 месяцев назад
@@olivergunn2796 For on-road use, I think trailer mounted batteries are a much better solution that truck mounted. That way the trailer can be charged at the dock. Then you can run the low, constant loads off the trailer battery and only use the truck battery for surge use.
@1979augistine
@1979augistine Год назад
Ahh finally the video works and got fixed . I wish these young guys the absolute best these young fellas deserve the world . Cant wait to see these trucks up and working
@Wyomingfarmer
@Wyomingfarmer Год назад
Powered axles on ag trailers would be neat! I'm sure logging and construction trailers could be helpful too
@jwiereng
@jwiereng Год назад
There are some agriculture trailers that are powered.
@deansmits006
@deansmits006 Год назад
Trailers with batteries and drive units may become popular among some industries. Turns any truck into a hybrid if done right. And can provide power out!
@Jaeswindell
@Jaeswindell Год назад
Those cast aluminum casings will be dangerously close to the ground, you may want to armor them to prevent a rock or large stick from ruining your day.
@Adam1nToronto
@Adam1nToronto Год назад
I was wondering if they could be clocked upright, to be over the axle centreline instead of fore or aft of it.
@crinkly.love-stick
@crinkly.love-stick Год назад
​@Adam Ant that may require the oil and cooling systems be redone, but it's doable
@fraserhenderson7839
@fraserhenderson7839 7 месяцев назад
Regular logging trucks don't seem to damage axles due to ground impact. They will be used on "logging roads". These "roads" are also suitable for ordinary sized trucks. I don't imagine these log hauler trucks will go "off road", just up and down mountains and on highways to a mill. Furthermore, the absence of mechanical driveline will result in a large weight reduction and a huge maintenance reduction. This man is a log truck operator. He knows what will break.
@Airsoftbros888
@Airsoftbros888 7 месяцев назад
@@fraserhenderson7839they’re literally called off road trucks.. yes logging road and spurs and have ground clearance issues and rocks can fall off cliffs. I am also a log trucker myself which due to these guys is getting wilt of hype these days..
@vf12497439
@vf12497439 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for working through these problems. Only a real driver can appreciate what’s needed for a real truck to operate.
@Borkery
@Borkery 9 месяцев назад
cant wait for the box truck version. would buy one in a heart beat if it can haul at least 10k pounds including trailer. Gotta replace my E-450 with something from your shop!
@overzealousmaverik
@overzealousmaverik Год назад
It's so awesome to see this. I have wondered for years why diesel electric was not an option in semis. Great job!
@Joe-xq3zu
@Joe-xq3zu 9 месяцев назад
Chase: With powered trailers life would be a lot easier for the truckers! Mill operators: So what you're saying is that we could send trucks into traditionally inaccessible areas now? Chase: [surprised Pikachu Face]
@kidskona3287
@kidskona3287 9 месяцев назад
That's what smart and successful entrepreneurs think and operate. If they think they have the monopoly, give them what they deserve and make them hit bankruptcy. One step ahead of your enemies, know their weaknesses and strengths. Way forward Champ. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
@merlepatterson
@merlepatterson 9 месяцев назад
That truck is so outlandishly awesome.
@SomeGuyNamedRoman
@SomeGuyNamedRoman Год назад
We are rooting for Edison motors! This is amazing. Great job you guys!
@tsstn
@tsstn Год назад
You are a fuggin PIONEER man. You and everyone helping you along the way. What an amazing project. I've been watching you for many months now. I am thrilled with your whole attitude and drive. I love what you are doing. Stay outside the box for all your thinking time. It is working wonders.
@lbeck119
@lbeck119 Год назад
You guys are the "Tucker" of the logging truck world.... Keep pushing
@ScottPlude
@ScottPlude 8 месяцев назад
Your story reminds me of the Tucker Car scenario from (I think) the 40s. I am glad you were able to give the middle finger to the companies that wouldn't work with you. Your efforts make this world a better place and take away power and control from the mega companies. thanks!
@janjitzekrol2564
@janjitzekrol2564 8 месяцев назад
I love all of this, I love the system, I love the way you present it, I love the humor.. I saw another video in which you mentioned you were worried about public speaking. Please don't, just do this and you will grab the attention. Just like your designs, keep it simple, straight forward, no need to make things more complex. You are on the right track and you will go far.
@maxroetzer63
@maxroetzer63 Год назад
Regarding the powered trailer: there is a German company called Trailer Dynamics that is building electric powered highway trailers. Might be interesting for you... But overall awesome truck concept, keep going guys!!!
@darcyfunk
@darcyfunk Год назад
A few years ago I sponsored a design project for the University of Calgary's Schulich School of Engineering Capstone final project: an e trailer complete with regen. My brother and I had the same idea at the same time... Our collective conclusion was that it made the most sense to develop for heavy transport first. I wish you every success and hope to see an Edison tractor trailer unit in its natural habitat soon! Cheers!
@deansmits006
@deansmits006 Год назад
I imagine that an e-trailer makes more sense in particular work loads, is this correct? Long haul vs regional, heavy loads vs lighter loads. Charging infrastructure?
@Liam40
@Liam40 Год назад
When you talk about having your trailer push, it reminds me of the slug-units we used at CN. It's heavy. It has brakes. You hook it up like any other locomotive with your MU Cable (27-Pin Jumper Cable.) and it pulls power from the main unit to drive its traction motors. Air controls were done from the MU Airlines, but any aux functions like dropping sand, headlights, all that jazz was jumpered in along with the 600 Volt power for the motors. When you look at how trains run these days outside the yard, the motors do almost all the work. Your acceleration and deceleration of 30,000 tons. Your stopping and going. Regenerative brakes are sweet to be sure, but the sheer amount of power of a dynamic brake. It's the jake brake of electrics. The dynamic grid gets cooking, and the fans spool up like a jet engine. So when I think of a trailer application on an electric truck, sure the idea of a pusher is cool and all, but being able to hook that up to a dynamic grid is cooler in my eyes. When we talk about a hill, are we more afraid we won't top it, or are we more afraid we won't stop it. Electric motor means no gear. Faster it spins more amps it can pump. You don't get that loss of effectiveness when you're starting to run, cause you don't have to match a gear ratio to your engine speed limit. Slap in a traction control so it doesn't skid out, and you could just have a "Jake" button, and a dynamic controller similar to what you see with a pickup truck brake controller. Could have a "light" and "heavy" application button if you wanted to get fancy with it, so you can choose whether to activate a light drag or a full stopping force. (Maybe a "Hold" function, where it works to hold your current speed, and a heavy function for decelerating) But wait, there's more. You have traction control on those brakes. When it's slippery or slimy, that trailer should be pulling itself straight and acting like an ABS, because it is. It can't lock the tires, slower they go less amps they make less resistance there is. You know how BC is, I know how BC is. You get grease year round. Sorry for the long ramble, but hey, the best ideas are born from bullshit. Just felt like saying what was on my mind when you mentioned trailers is all, haha. (Unrelated - If you were to look at a log trailer manufacturer local here in BC, check out Freflyt in Vanderhoof. They're good people based on my interactions with them, though I have no affiliation with them.) Have a good one, and thanks for reading.
@tdwebste
@tdwebste Год назад
Powered trailers, need to talk about universal quick attach tailer power units.
@robertchristie5015
@robertchristie5015 Год назад
Man, this hybrid design is great! You should be thinking of swapping into Ag as well. Great Job Edison motors!!!
@Shirazzikkdh
@Shirazzikkdh Год назад
Totally nerding out over the axles, being an ex flatbedder myself. Wish I could work with you.
@fancentral4662
@fancentral4662 Год назад
All the more reason to return to driving once he gets these running
@lexugax
@lexugax 8 месяцев назад
I love what you guys are doing. I hope one day you decide to make a pickup truck like this.
@WorldRallyFamily
@WorldRallyFamily 7 месяцев назад
Check their other videos, they are wanting to do that soon.
@BNUTTALL1983
@BNUTTALL1983 7 месяцев назад
Love it. If the people/companies you approach don’t want to jump on board. F’em. Go around, over or through them. For too long large companies have become comfortable with controlling markets. Love it that you’re rattling cages. Hopefully you can eventually bring axle manufacturing into Canada.
@jeffcourtney8101
@jeffcourtney8101 Год назад
You and your team and the suppliers etc. are what I think of as industrial revolutionists. Designing, developing and bringing to market a product with superior quality. Looking forward to seeing the 1st million mile Edison in the future.
@cinemabunny
@cinemabunny Год назад
I love that you went from shunned customer to competition and you support Right to Repair with available parts. If fleet operators knew that you were RTR vs planned obsolescence, they would switch to you instantly.
@nutsandbolts432
@nutsandbolts432 Год назад
Wheel speed may vary on tandem axles due to tire wear, tire pressure and turning radius. Yes, they need to be synced, but be sure there is some wiggle room in the tolerances. I don’t know the specs on the motors you got, but some Servo motors can match rpm’s exactly causing your axles to fight one another. I’m sure you have thought about this.
@seabulls69
@seabulls69 7 месяцев назад
I just learned that Tesla's "semi" (not at all like Chase's "Topsy") only uses the second axle for starting out and hill climbing. Seems with the Edison setup that a simple programming tweak to reduce power to one of the axles might solve the slight variation in rotational difference issue. I am thoroughly impressed with the project. I've been saying for years that if someone came up with a hybrid with a smaller, more efficient power plant and a larger battery pack that I would buy it in a heartbeat. Looks like I'm not the only one. Kudos to Edison.
@davek6630
@davek6630 Год назад
It’s great to see the little guy go head with the large corporations! I love the simplicity of this truck design! I’m looking forward to seeing you guys succeed in this venture!
@benconverse6158
@benconverse6158 Год назад
Hell yea right to repair and bulletproof reliability. I wish more manufacturers would take a page from your book! Keep it up guys!
@philliplopez8745
@philliplopez8745 9 месяцев назад
We sold our manufacturing soul for Wal Mart prices . I am a repair man , I started out fixing " Mr Coffees" and vacuum cleaners . Can you imagine fixing a coffee maker today .
@Freeloves_Whipps
@Freeloves_Whipps Год назад
Congrats on the axles!!! You will be manufacturing your own in no time.
@bhavjotkang8004
@bhavjotkang8004 Год назад
that would be a terrible idea. u simply cant compete with chinese manufacturing. unless u got buyer willing to pay double price for a ev truck
@langdons2848
@langdons2848 Год назад
​@@bhavjotkang8004 a friend of mine runs a consumer electronics company. They a currently bringing a lot of their parts manufacturing back to Australia as when you take into account the cost of managing the manufacturing off shore (which you have to do constantly), dealing with poor quality control, shipping delays etc, even though labour is generally cheaper in China, it didn't necessarily translate into a better or cheaper end result.
@noticer3721
@noticer3721 Год назад
@@bhavjotkang8004 "u simply cant compete with chinese manufacturing" Ya, thanks Chang. I'm sure it's impossible right?
@karlswanson95
@karlswanson95 8 месяцев назад
Love it. Have you looked into generating electricity with gas turbine generators? Wrightspeed was looking into this not sure what they are doing now. Maybe pneumatic motor generators etc.
@kennethbranson-dv6tq
@kennethbranson-dv6tq Год назад
I’m not a driver but I love what you guys are doing and I hope you guys keep doing great!
@rockwolfdesigns6384
@rockwolfdesigns6384 Год назад
Hell yeah congratulations, thanks for promoting the right way to do business
@exyor5916
@exyor5916 Год назад
I dont know who you are but the fight you put up to get it the way you wanted it just deserve a sub
@ponderosalogging2893
@ponderosalogging2893 Год назад
I am very interested in your trucks. But being speced mainly for off-road use is a own side for me. I gross 245k lbs and seeing a company make electric trucks for us heavy haul guys is awesome! I would love to see normal highway axles as a option.
@drewgoodman7932
@drewgoodman7932 7 месяцев назад
A power trailer paired with Topsy would be the holy grail. Do it.
@rangefreewords
@rangefreewords Год назад
Love the autonomous trailer idea. So many common lanes that you'd otherwise take in an industry that aren't on highway at all. It's the same as what I've seen for quarrys now.
@robbbenedict
@robbbenedict Год назад
Canada should be able to manufacture virtually anything requiring raw materials. We have everything!
@t-yoonit
@t-yoonit Год назад
I love this. The epitome of "fück you, I do what I want"
@danwerkman
@danwerkman Год назад
I really really love your spirit. Right to repair, no planned obsolescence... Keep charging...Makes me interested in equipment again.
@hondaman117
@hondaman117 9 месяцев назад
Curious, are the power ratings discussed the peak or continuous ratings? And at what voltage ranges?
@jwpepper6718
@jwpepper6718 Год назад
Love what you all are doing!! Can't wait to see where this takes you once your past the trial and error stage as I see you crushing all competitors and creating a more reliable product than what is out there. Plus, the little man can work on it with your simplicity in mind.
@jpdenford1473
@jpdenford1473 Год назад
I have nothing to do with Trucking but your philosophy and execution are inspirational. Keep up the great work.
@Wulven-Hollow
@Wulven-Hollow Год назад
I would imagine Australian trucking would be interested in those powered trailers for their road trains as well.
@NunyaBusIness-tl1ev
@NunyaBusIness-tl1ev 7 месяцев назад
I have a Gasoline Powered Trailer on an EV (as a battery range extender) and I can say they are awesome. I LOVE your powered trailer idea, with the diesel generator! EDISON MOTORS KEEP IT UP!!!!! ❤ 🎉❤😊
@justinriggs8485
@justinriggs8485 Год назад
Man I hear the the anger and the happiness in your voice at the same time. I really hope I get to drive a highway Edison Motors truck one day.
@psychotikpaisano
@psychotikpaisano Год назад
The powered trailer idea is awesome
@DollarKLX250
@DollarKLX250 Год назад
Awesome!! Can’t wait to see how this truck performs in the real world!
@badgermetal
@badgermetal Год назад
5:50 I think you meant to say that the planetary hubs increase the torque at the hub but decrease the speed.
@mythslayer1579
@mythslayer1579 Год назад
Im so pumped to see everything you guys are working on.
@sedrickwells8545
@sedrickwells8545 Год назад
Man I love what you guys doing here.
@Youhaveaname
@Youhaveaname Год назад
This is some beautiful work you're doing, sir. I've got nothing to do with the logging or trucking industry. But I look forward to all your updates!
@ComputerGeek18
@ComputerGeek18 Год назад
“Instead of being a customer, we became competition." I love the way you said F**K you guys, take this, in the most professional, entrepreneur way possible! Keep it up! I can't wait to see what this truck will be capable of.
@MerpSquirrel
@MerpSquirrel Год назад
Wow this is a big deal. I think we need to really rethink our industry and look at sourcing locally like your team.
@Wesleycooks
@Wesleycooks Год назад
I really like the powered trailer idea. Keep up the good work
@orbatos
@orbatos 10 месяцев назад
Really looking forward to these, great work.
@mastr-sf1jv
@mastr-sf1jv Год назад
This is incredible, im so excited to share your story.
@WorldRallyFamily
@WorldRallyFamily 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely awesome!
@IRDeezlSmoke
@IRDeezlSmoke Год назад
I experienced the very same issues with trying to source rubber tracks for the machine in my avitar. Even though I had the cash, and would pay up front, the manufacturers would just say yes, then when it came time to deliver, they would change their minds and say no. All in hopes to break my will and hope that I would give up. Eventually a south Korean manufacturer that understands the benefits supplying a new demand rather than destroy new demand in compliance with the wishes of their current customers to control a market, took a chance and sold me a set. That was over 20 years ago.
@fancentral4662
@fancentral4662 Год назад
Very happy to see this progress. Keep going.
@patriciap1214
@patriciap1214 2 месяца назад
Here in the USA or United States you know how it goes I give you guys so much credit good for you. Why should I buy a truck when I’m mechanically inclined for the last 32 years working in a power plant on steam turbines? Why can I fix my own vehicle? What seems to be the problem but they want everything they want to computers they want the vehicle they want the tire rotations they want everything and they don’t want you touching it. That’s a good one after I bought it I can’t service it myself. I gave you guys a lot of credit you did a great job. I love your videos and I love your truck you’re doing keep going and don’t let these big ass holes tell you what to do.
@bigal878
@bigal878 Год назад
Great job. Subscribed and watching with interest from Australia 🇦🇺 👍
@zgrb
@zgrb Год назад
The idea of regenerative braking with trailer axles on extended downhills is so genius, obviously not a replacement for high quality brakes but could make them a lot safer and increase range in mountains on highway trucks. Obviously you’d need a ton of cooling, but I imagine it’s a lot easier to get heat out of a system with circulating fluids and active cooling than plain ol brake rotors.
@siggyincr7447
@siggyincr7447 7 месяцев назад
On extended downhills you would need to dump the current on some sort of huge resistive load as I don't think these trucks will be carrying tons of batteries to save that much power. At that point you might as well just use the normal brakes.
@zgrb
@zgrb 7 месяцев назад
@@siggyincr7447 that’s true, but I think it would be much easier to cool a larger thermal mass with its own cooling system than conventional brakes. I’m not as familiar with the brakes on semi’s, but I have seen plenty overheat and catch fire, which I don’t think would be an issue with this system. Resistive loads are very efficient for heat transfer, and you’d still be able to take a lot of energy out of the system with a simple heat exchanger. Would be interesting to see it implemented.
@hvy1ton
@hvy1ton Год назад
Unless they are outboard rotors, stick with drums. Inboard disc brakes are no fun to work on and the cost per mile isn't fun either. Will locking all 3 axle motors to the same speed increase tire scrub?
@HeliosFish
@HeliosFish Год назад
At a first glance, I’m thinking if all the motors sync via on-demand-power-consumption the tires should be doing the same amount of work per axle per side so it might keep scrub to a minimum. Traction control algorithms/coding would probably also limit scrub, even if they’re synchronized via speed
@hvy1ton
@hvy1ton Год назад
Sure. That's true when the truck is driving in a straight line. Some stuff I don't fully understand happens when turning and each axle travels a different distance. That's why 90%+ of trucks with more than one drive axle have an interaxle differential. Should be possible to have the motor controllers act like a limited slip. If the wheel speed or motor load deviates too much from the other axle(s), the controller locks the motor speeds together for 5-10 seconds. Motor speeds could be locked together when the axle lockers are engaged.
@CGoody564
@CGoody564 6 месяцев назад
This is great news. Edison is rollin' full steam ahead; better hope that Jake brake works 😅
@jonathanwoods1191
@jonathanwoods1191 Год назад
Keep it up buddy you doing well and your team specially your team there’s nothing more important than having a great team surround yourself with great people
@chrisquaglio5265
@chrisquaglio5265 Год назад
You guys are amazing, I’m from Europe so this isn’t a real useful thing for me you’re to far, but making a truck this cool with right to repair is wonderful project keep it up huge fan
@charleshulsey3103
@charleshulsey3103 Год назад
Conversion kits for hwy trucks would make a lot of sense.
@Elyon113
@Elyon113 Год назад
You guys are amazing ❤
@seabulls69
@seabulls69 7 месяцев назад
First of all, congrats on seeing your idea through. I've seen a number of your videos as well as the Deboss video where you pulled the Sherman tank conversion. Bravo on your proof of concept. I love the idea of a smaller, lighter, more efficient ICE powerplant. I get the idea of regenerative braking too. My concern is, when you're coming down a very long grade fully loaded, it seems that you would generate more power than the batteries could ingest. Would they be able to absorb all of that energy? Or is there a provision to incorporate dynamic braking resistor grids like the diesel electric locomotives use on downgrades to bleed off excess energy?
@gandalfnamirreh379
@gandalfnamirreh379 Год назад
Joe's working at it , semi - conductors are a go
@PWlangford1
@PWlangford1 10 месяцев назад
You will be a big company one day 🇨🇦
@TJWelsh
@TJWelsh Год назад
Nice heavy spec rears! I'm anxious to see the next phase.
@vincepaladino3
@vincepaladino3 7 месяцев назад
Keep the enthusiasm going!.!.!!!
@tonylafon8716
@tonylafon8716 Год назад
I’m really excited to see the end product of this as well. Some really good points about the trailers having power. Maybe even mounting a six power unit on the trailer for a extra juice
@philliplopez8745
@philliplopez8745 Год назад
Constant peak torque. The magic of electricity!
@Bill-sp8kb
@Bill-sp8kb Год назад
Yep! That's why AC traction, diesel - electric locomotives can pull so much tonnage. Constant high torque, applied smoothly to the rails.
@kellymcdermott2546
@kellymcdermott2546 9 месяцев назад
@ 7.30, a power trailer would work well in earthworks as well. In tight foundation pads the truck is often dragged to a halt. A powered dolly on the 8 and 10 wheel trailers ( New Zealand) would make a major difference. Currently once the trailers drag the truck to a halt you are stuck running truck only to finish the job.
@zackywacky5581
@zackywacky5581 Год назад
Necessity is the mother of invention... awesome guys...way to go♥️💘💕💝💖
@matthewgorman1088
@matthewgorman1088 Год назад
Super interesting, can’t wait to see it in action.
@happygarage6310
@happygarage6310 Год назад
Adding to trailer axles, many current AWD hybrids only use the rear motor to assist launch or for additional regen. Most of the time, the rear motor coasts, meaning it's far less powerful, like 60HPish. The trailer axle could be only 100Kw and still give plenty of extra oomph.
@littleshopintheshed
@littleshopintheshed Год назад
Love what your doing!!
@mikemcdonald2755
@mikemcdonald2755 10 месяцев назад
Planetaries are definitely the way to go!
@lelenbates3367
@lelenbates3367 6 месяцев назад
I don't know if you have it set up that way, but you could utilize you oil circulation pumps to facilitate fluid changes. It could push clean oil in while used oil is flushing out which would also help displace sediment. You could even do a closed loop filtration which you probably already do which could also add the benefit of a heat exchanger. Easy service is a must. I worked for a great equipment company that was privately owned then was bought out and ruined by a large corporation. Before the purchase we constantly worked at upgrading our equipment and software to make it continually better and give the best support possible to our customers. After the purchase the new philosophy was touch nothing and forget about improvements and don't give the customers anything for free even if it should be covered by warranty because it was a known problem. I quit and went to work for my self to help out my old customers who were no longer supported the way they should be by my old company. The lawyer came after me. It is very rare that any of the once great companies are ran by the people that started them and built the brand. Corporations buy the good companies for the good brand name and ruin the brand or move production to China or both. Stay strong and most importantly stay independent.
@thaelian
@thaelian Год назад
Just so proud of your entire team for having the balls to compete and not only compete but you will kick butt. Dang... So proud to be Canadian where throughout history, we have proven that we always find a way. I can`t help but think about the Canadian-built Avro Arrow. We as Canadians, can do it and not only that, but we can do it better, the only difference is you will not be shut down by governmental and political pressure or outside interests. Up here in the Great White North we get it done, Eh!
@josefrobbins8781
@josefrobbins8781 Год назад
Great work Hoss.
@AlexandreJWKlaus
@AlexandreJWKlaus Год назад
Noice! Love seeing Canadian stuff and for all of the electric vehicles being made
@mikewalsh2178
@mikewalsh2178 3 месяца назад
Just subscribed. Loving your passion and innovation. And anyone who describes his rigging as "Skookum" has my interest. Good luck with your builds
@bpturbo27
@bpturbo27 Год назад
Love the underdogs , always did.
@justinkraynie6435
@justinkraynie6435 Год назад
On the powered trailer - even if pushing from behind turns out to be a rare need or too novel of a concept to be adopted, the regenerative braking from 2 extra axles would in theory increase the time between generator shutdown / startup.
@darkonecoming
@darkonecoming 8 месяцев назад
outstanding
@Capellix0001
@Capellix0001 4 месяца назад
I really hope you guys find success and are able to produce these locally.
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