3/8/2021 - Common challenges of growing mango trees, including protection from the elements as well as diseases such as powdery mildew and anthracnose.
The mangoes die after a couple years because the ph is not in the right range for them to feed themselves and thrive , once the stored up energy gets exhausted they give up the ghost, u gotta add sulfur or blueberry fertilizer to them regularly so the soil ph stays around 5.8 . Anything above 7 the mangoes can’t take up nutrients from their roots because the roots lockup due to high p.h . Hope this helps, I’ve killed a lot mango trees until my hard headed arse finally learned 😔
I completely agree. That too has been my experience, but with other tropical fruit trees. On 12/20/2020, I made a video concerning the topics of soil pH and drainage. Specific to mango trees, in addition to soil pH (which mine are around 6.5, thanks to years of elemental sulfur applications), they require excellent drainage and aeration. They are typically deficient in various micro nutrients such as iron and manganese. Too much nitrogen and the tree suffers. It’s all a balancing act.
I respectfully disagree. Although I disagree, it does not mean you are wrong. Soil pH of 6.5 is perfect for mango trees. The nearly dozen of wood chip and other organic materials covering the soil will naturally acidify the soil, over the course of many years. Foliar feeding SHOULD only be used in addition to your granular/liquid feeding. It alone is not enough to sustain the long term health of a tree.
I have been growing them for the past 12 years in SoCal and use to do what you mention above but found the easiest way is to grow it on a big layer of decomposed mulch. My trees are pushing 9 feet and fruited already I don't fertilize or do anything. Carbonic acid forms from the H20 and Carbon being respirated in the soil and decomposition.
Amazing info in here! I have slowly edged into Tropicals at my house. Had normal veggie garden that transitioned into berries, added on some dwarf citrus, went C r a z y on dragonfruit and passionfruit and now guavas are surviving so mangoes are the now add on. North San Diego County and it’s looking like a temperate if not warm fall and winter so perfect for getting them established last two years
Powdery Mildew effects the new leaf growth, could be why it looks sun burnt. Interesting how mangos do very well in South Florida they love the heat. They grow like weeds here. Citrus however, thats a different story, forget about it lol. Nice collection of mangos. FYI mango trees here in Florida can sit in water for 1-2 months, I've seen some grow in canals. I think people who say mango trees like fast draining soil are regurgitating the same info.
Thanks for the tip. This was an older video, but since then, I’ve learned new techniques related to the growing of mango trees in my climate. Luckily, due to the lack of humidity, fungal pest is really not an issue with my mango trees, though the direct, intense dry 115° heat causes them to degrade during our many heatwaves. Another factor is my alkaline, compact clay soil. Heavy amendment is needed when putting them in the ground. With clay soil, it’s basically a death sentence if any deep watering is performed.
Mad respect to you.... didn't realize that growing mangos in Central Valley is so challenging. I get it though.....the fruit is so delicious, it's so worth the trouble! You got some good varieties...never had a manila mango. My favorite is the sugarloaf it's out this world. Beautiful garden...thanks for sharing.
Besides our horrible winter and summer and the powdery mildew and anthracnose in the spring and fall, mangoes actually do really good in the Central Valley. :-) On an unrelated note, just saw some of your mango collections. Very jealous of your tropical climate. Impressive collection.
So impressive you are so spot on so many of my mangoes 🥭 RIP this year even a matured VP.. so they don’t like heat burn mold fungus (spray) and don’t like wet feet 🦶 right? Even the thai mangoes 🥭 died just overnight probably from fertilizer. I was planning on a wall of mangoes as a fence on my back wall but that went out the window. Cool and very impressive homie growing all that👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I’m in SoCal near OC and I still kill 😆
Thanks! 6.5 is a good level to achieve. Sorry if I missed it but how much elemental sulfur do you apply to your mango trees and how often? Does temperature impact the effectiveness? I read somewhere that applying elemental sulfur to soil above 85 degrees or below 50 is counterproductive but curious on your experience.
I understand. I recommend growing mango trees in containers for starters. Make sure to incorporate half of your growing medium with plain old sand. My 25 gallon containers have so much sand that it weighs about 200 pounds, without the tree. If you think avocado trees hate wet feet, mango trees die when water touches their toes. Drainage and aeration is mandatory.
Thanks a lot for all the great information about mango.ISomeone give me a mango tree and. Not sure what yo do with it. I'm afraid it will die on me but after watching your video. It give me confidence to keep it alive.I appreciate it very much for sharing your video.
You’re very welcome. Assuming the mango was grown from seed, it will actually have a slightly better chance at acclimating to our environment, particularly with our soil type.
I am convinced on Manila mango. Will look for one soon.We do get them in Lowes/HD from time to time in Bay area. Do you plant them in shade and let them grow into sunlight after they reach some height ? Or a better question is - how much sunlight do they get.
If available, I’d grab a few. At one point, the Guinness World Records listed the Manila mango as being the world’s sweetest mango, beating the Kesar. In my opinion, taste is all subjective. In my case, I just have to take a Miracle Berry and everything becomes record setting sweet. All of my Manila mango trees have been planted in full Central Valley sun, including the 110° summers that we occasionally get. The more sunlight, the better. No sun/frost protection needed, even for young trees.
Excellent…thanks so much for sharing your experience in your area. I live in a similar type of zone, so have benefited from many of your videos. Please keep sharing ❤
I did. My go to for mango trees is Champa Nursery. They are a bit pricey but has the best selection, including the rare varieties. Unfortunately, the closest to a tropical fruit tree our local nurseries carries was a moringa. I did luck out one year and got a white sapote and a Cavendish banana plant from my local Lowe’s.
I have Nam Doc Mai and I’m in 9b San Antonio.. what is the cold temp that will kill it? Its in a 3 gal right now so young. I’m afraid to plant it in ground. For now it’ll be in the container. At least I can bring it in the garage when it’s too cold. But at how long do I have wait till it’s mature enough where it will stand the freeze temp?
All of my in ground mango trees, including seedlings survived my winters, down to 27°F with little to no frost damage. If grown from seed, their cold tolerance increases. If grafted, they’re more cold sensitive and will likely encounter frost damage if left unprotected.
Yes, almost all of my mango trees have produced fruits in previous years. I’m not sure about the exact number, but I suspect it’s around 20 or so trees.
I live in Thailand And two of my Mango trees have like a black fungal infection on the leaves and the fruit. Have you had this problem? I so anything I can do to get rid of it Cheers Mark
It may be anthracnose. I’d foliar spray the tree with a copper-based solution. Bear in mind, if your trees have flower/fruit, you’ll loose the harvest. I typically treat my trees before they start to bloom flowers.
They are 25 gallon containers. The trees are approaching 5-6 years old. I’m actually not going to upsize them anytime soon. I may eventually upsize some of the larger varieties into 60 gallon containers when approaching 10 years.
If you’re around the Los Angeles region, there are a number of tropical fruit tree nurseries there. All of my Manila mango trees were purchased from Mimosa Nursery in LA.
Thanks for everything! Got a Pickering but it looks like it will pass on for some reason after light pruning. Getting an Ataulfo and Keitt. I worry about them getting huge but it seems that rarely happens here in the bay area.
Yeah, although you probably do not get the crazy winter frost like we do, luckily, most of our year is warm and hot, something the tropicals look forward to.
Great video brother! Just quick questions, as I live in central California.I have Thai grafted mango plant and other Asian grafted mango plant gifted by my friend. I was able to survive it last year to this year, by planting in the pot and used miracle grow as fertilizer and kept in garage to survive the winters. Now I am thinking of planting them in ground. but worry they might not survive , any suggestions what can I do when planting in ground and save them from frost ? Should I add sulfur or how can I find the ph levels. Any suggestion will be great.
My latest video covers this topic: Successfully Plant and Grow Mango Trees in Clay Soil ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z5nZjteXbVM.html
You’re very welcome. I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on seeing if your mango tree can survive the cold, but instead, focus on providing it with a good home (it’s all about the soil). Mango trees, even seedlings are super cold hardy. That’s not to say the outer foliage won’t suffer frost damage but the tree itself should make it through winter without any issues.
@@TropicalCentralValley Thank You my friend for advice and the video for planting mango. as i live near Fresno, in a week i will be planting my 2 mango plants, just wanted to know should i bother putting in Sulphur, or mycorisen fungi or worm gold organic fertilizer.. thanks
In previous years, I had a number of moringa trees, however, I have since removed them all to make room for other tropicals. Moringa trees will defoliate completely during our winter but will bounce back around March-April. All of mine were planted in ground, unprotected.
Is it better to grow Manila mangoes in containers in the Central Valley then ground soil. I’ve seen many of my mangoes plants dies when it’s in the ground
If able to, I’d definitely put the mango tree in the ground. Mango trees require a particular set of conditions with the soil. My latest video may help to address their needs: Successfully Plant and Grow Mango Trees in Clay Soil ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z5nZjteXbVM.html
Are u in zone 9b or 9a? I am in Menifee, California and I am in zone 9a...when I moved here last July I thought it was 9b... the cold nights have been my worst enemy.
USDA Zone 9b. Here’s a more recent video covering the topic of growing tropical fruit trees in 9b: What Can’t Grow in USDA Zone 9b, Seriously. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gqByDn7P3no.html
So far , my mango tree from seed is doing great after 5 weeks. It’s about 4 inches tall and has 10 established leaves with two newly formed ones. I transplanted it after being in its original birth container (just sugar water and dampened paper towels) to a regular pot filled with potting soil 2 weeks later. The following day, I noticed the leaves appearing unhealthy and unhappy. So I quickly removed it from the soil and put it back into the sugar water. It loved it. And now its thriving again. Do you have any idea why it likes the sugar water mixture??? I also change the sugar water every 4 days. It seems to like it .
The seedling may have been going through transplant shock. If so, it will definitely help, once the seedling gets through it’s earlier stress to amend the soil heavily when deciding to put it in the ground again. Here’s a quick video on putting a mango tree in the ground: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z5nZjteXbVM.html As for the benefits of sugar water, that’s up for discussion, however, if used as foliar spray, the tree does appreciate it.
Chris from Truly Tropical recommends 'Pickering' as a beginners first mango tree -- can be grown as a dwarf tree and also in a container. Alex, from Tropical Acres recommends any vigorously growing mango tree for California such as Valencia Pride, Kent, etc. An eHow article by Richard Hoyt recommends Kent, Edward, Tommy Atkins for interior CA.
What has been your best producer and what variety is your favorite…? Most of us are envious of your colllection…..to reach those numbers requires a friend in the nursery business or a mango disorder….haha
Thank you. I think I suffer from a severe form of Mangoritis; it certainly helps to have many dealers within driving distance from which I can easily get my fix from. My best producers have been the Lancetilla and Manila, though they are all great.
It’s a slippery slope. First, guava trees, then cherimoya, and eventually mangosteens and durians. There are many tropical fruit trees that do really well in the Central Valley. I’m hoping to show proof that you can grow them here.
Hello This is Bill. What do you think of the Haden Mango? Is it worthwhile growing? Does it produce many fruits and is it cold resistant, hardy, vigorous etc ? Thanks
So I actually do have a Haden tree, growing from seed. Having eaten the original fruit, it’s a lot like a Tommy Atkins, with some fiber, but still very good. In my case, as mine is growing from seed, it’s going to do so much better than a grafted tree, due to the ease at which it acclimates. It’s one of the faster growing varieties, and from my recollection of visiting the Florida Fruit and Spices park, the trees can get quite massive.
Thanks. I am looking to buy a Grafted Haden tree and try growing it in Melbourne. Heard some good reviews about it. Most mangoes here are Kensington Pride. Looking to try some new Florida varieties.
Nice. I recommend the Lemon Zest, Florigon and Coconut Cream just to name a few. I would also recommend the Asian varieties such as Keo Savoy, as they are quite fragrant and super sweet.
Hi friend, I just recently got a longan tree and in the ground now but looks like not very happy. The leaves drying out . Please any suggestion? I am here in Concord California( Bay Area). Thanks.
I know the Bay Area can get windy. It may be a combination of cold and the wind. The wind strips the moisture from the leaves, making the tree suffer. Make sure to give the longan tree plenty of water. You can also apply some liquid fertilizer around this time. I would give it some fish emulsion.
He needs to routinely add some mild sulfur. I can see the burning--I don't think it is sun when it hasn't exceeded 75 degrees. He needs to mildly lower the pH & help with the drainage & nutrient uptake. Good organics and slow, deep watering.
Appreciate the input, however, at 6.5, I don’t believe the soil pH is an issue. All of the mango trees did just go through winter, and it shows. You may want to check out the video I made covering the importance of soil pH and drainage.
Thank you. Sorry I don’t any exciting updates. Some day, I should abandon my tropical dream and go with easier plants, but Stone (fruit) Central Valley doesn’t have the same vibe as Tropical Central Visalia.
My big question is . Have any of your mango varieties set fruit???? Not manila because we all kno manila thrive here but other mango not Valencia pride either. Ur other trees????? Please help!
Yes, a number of my mango trees have set fruit. I’m in it for the long term. If all of my mango trees set fruit year after year, they’re likely not going to have enough stored energy to make it through winter and summer. It’s all about their long term survival.
I’m in Visalia, about 98 miles south of you. Our climates are nearly identical, with some winters being a few degrees colder than yours. Although I have numerous mango trees in the ground, some going on for more than 3 years now, I would advise against doing so. Specific to mango trees, your ground soil has to be nearly perfect, in that, it’s pH is correct and well draining. Mango trees love water, but the roots love oxygen even more. If choosing to do so, I’d recommend starting off with a Manila as they are a bit more forgiving of our soil and outdoor climate.
@@TropicalCentralValley i think I will go with a glen in a pot and manila in the ground. The area where they built my house, they raised the ground up with sandy loam. Prior to that , this area was agriculture land. Thanks for your advice. I also am going to try my luck on papaya. I have fruited them before but they are very hard for me.
Specific to papaya, I would recommend you germinating them from seeds. You’re bound to get at least 100 plants, with the majority of them being bisexual trees. I find the Mexican variety does way better than other varieties, such as the Hawaiian Solo, but I have been able to get both to grow. Be cautious on the soil, as their roots rot quite easily.
i live in HOA , and I plant fruit trees you would never know. I believe you can plant your trees without your yard looking like there was no planning. The front just looks untidy.We can grow fruit trees with a design element.look up Green Dreams .Dont take it the wrong way , just an obsevation.
Thanks for the tip. Fortunately I do not live in an HOA. Presentation is not really high on my priority. As I live in the harsh environment of California’s Central Valley, I have to take into account the location of the various tropical fruit trees. Without the microclimate provided, many of them likely will not make it through our winter and summer.
It appears your mango is suffering from the same thing my pear tree is suffering from …. Burning fire disease. The leaves wilt and dry up crispy as if they have been through a fire. My solution is to spray them every 3-4 days with a mixture of apple cider vinegar and water. A 1 cup of vinegar to 4 cups of water ratio.
Thanks for the tip. The addition of vinegar as a foliar spay may not be a good idea as the acidity may interfere with the tree. If used as a watering solution, it may be acceptable. In fact, for my acid loving trees such as Miracle Berry, I occasionally perform this practice.
You should watch Dr. Richard Campbell and his method of cultivating mangoes in South Florida. He's the top authority in mangoes in the United States and used to be curator for the Florida research facilty in Homestead. He promotes keeping your trees down to 8 feet and make them more like a bush instead of a tree by constant tipping of the branches. He gets 200 lbs of mangoes out of his bushy trees and harvests about 14 tons of mangoes out of his 3/4 acre lot. Your trees look too tall.
I don’t know how some of his and others whose region are nearly tropical and near perfect climate for the growing of tropical fruit trees would be applicable to the folks trying to grow these in California’s Central Valley. Specific to the strategy of vertical growth, this allows the trees to maintain its cool when our summers hit the 110° - 115° with 20% humidity weeks, as well minimizing frost damage when our winters hit their high 20°’s.
My manila mango grown from seed keep stopping their growth after about 3-4 months. I've re-potted using 30% sand, 30% peat moss, 30% perlite, and 10% mix of compost, composted manure, worm casting, and myccorhiza. They're getting 6-8 hours of direct sunlight. It's seems to be at a complete halt, and can't produce leaves. Any tips?? These baby's look like they're dying.
I would check the base of the tree’s trunk to ensure no pest has eaten through the cambium layer. Beyond that, it’s really hard to say why it has gone downhills. Your soil is spot on, however, bear in mind, mango trees aren’t fans of salt. Would you know that sodium level in your water?
@@TropicalCentralValley Hi! I don't, but have been using collected rain water because I don't have a filter for my hose. There's no evidence of insects affecting the plants. Everything is intact. Before they completely stopped growing, it would put out small deformed leaves. Maybe I'm watering too much, and should wait to water just once a week or two. They're in those 1 gallon black plastic pots, get plenty of sun, and takes a long to dry out even the top inch... To me the plants completely shut down and isn't even drinking that much. I think I'm going to water much less and very lightly foliar feed every two weeks.
@@TropicalCentralValley Even if these make it I'm definitely buying a grafted Mallika this winter/spring. Then if these guys are still around, I'll cleft graft the healthiest one into the Mallika.
All manila from home depot, lowes are all seed grown because their seeds are poly_embryonic. Although they carry grafted kent, keitt once in a blue moon. Lol
True. Nurseries often use Manila as a rootstock. Similar to Nam Doc Mai, the Manila is mostly true to seed. Just wished someone out there sells grafted Manila to speed up the fruiting process.
@@TropicalCentralValley you can order scions from www.tropicalacresfarms.com/ of any variety including manila and graft your seedlings.lol im just waiting for my seedlings to mature. I have nam doc mai, pickering, rosigold in container. Manila, Mallika in ground. I want to graft that manila. Multi graft. And my seedlings.lol i doubt manila is still one of your options now that you have unlimited choices.
@@TropicalCentralValley May I ask what is the sweetest mango in your opinion? I just bought 3 mango trees and will plants them in pot. I live in San Jose, CA. Do you have any tip for me? This is the 1 st time I plant mango. I bought 1 Manila, 1 Alphonso, and 1 himsaga. They r all grafted dwarf tree. I would really appreciate your help!
I actually made a video on the upsizing of a containerized mango tree on 5/17/2020. You need to incorporate a lot of sand into your soil mixture. Specific to mango trees, their roots cannot be wet for longer than a day or so.
You can’t apply sulfur and copper together one or the other. Good video but I don’t understand when you said you’re going to show us what it takes to grow mangoes you’re basically showing us mango trees.
Thanks. Apologies for the statement error on my part. My initial objective on this video was to show the various challenges associated with the growing of mango trees in my climate.
Not a good ideal to plant all these tropical fruit trees and other types of trees so close to each other. They won’t have enough room to spread their branches and roots once they gets bigger. Needs to space them out.
I completely agree with you if they’re in their native climate. However, as this is the Central Valley, our climate naturally keep the tropical nice and compact.
The challenge might because you use too rich soil. According to ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nwM6dAcCdNc.html, if you use compost, mango tree will die in 3 yrs
