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Charles Finney: A Survey of Church History with W. Robert Godfrey 

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Rather than depending on the life-transforming power of the Holy Spirit, Charles Finney believed revival could be broken down to a science. How did he come to this conclusion? In this message, W. Robert Godfrey discusses Finney’s methods, his critics, and the true nature of revival.
This message is from part 5 of Dr. Godfrey’s study series A Survey of Church History. Learn more: www.ligonier.org/learn/series...

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@Bible_knowledge
@Bible_knowledge Год назад
Love listening to Robert Godfrey and the Ligonier team
@stuartjohnson5686
@stuartjohnson5686 Год назад
Problematic? It was entirely unbiblical. If success is leading people astray them such men are successful because people have itching ears.
@nv8409
@nv8409 Год назад
I have this entire 6 part series and it is really wonderful. I highly recommend it
@makaylalee1436
@makaylalee1436 Год назад
Thank you for the background history of the churches
@Savedbygrace22
@Savedbygrace22 Год назад
This series is very helpful as a Birds Eye view of the events in church history. It was worth the money and whets your appetite for deeper study of people and places in history. Dr Godfrey has such a winsome way of teaching and his dry wit is engaging. His admiration of Amy Semple McPherson though perplexes me as I know it does his Ligonier teaching fellows as well. A head scratcher for sure. She seemed like a gifted conwoman who ignored the scriptural parameters for a faithful Christian woman. 🤷‍♀️
@Kingdonomics
@Kingdonomics Год назад
I love Dr Godfrey ❤
@MariaRodriguez-zw5eg
@MariaRodriguez-zw5eg 9 месяцев назад
DR. GODFREY ABSOLUTE EXCELLENCE🙏
@timcummiskey1178
@timcummiskey1178 9 месяцев назад
"Revival And Revivalism" by Ian Murray is an excellent book.
@americantruth12
@americantruth12 Год назад
Yes! We're not supposed to be coerced to Christ because it can cause false conversions.
@Tinstared
@Tinstared Год назад
Is Godfrey's previous message on Finney found on youtube?
@noahproblemo1257
@noahproblemo1257 Год назад
I wondered how many people in attendance had responded to an "alter call" in their conversion. Growing up in a fundamentalist denomination I didn’t know of a any other way until I was an adult.
@kengreene5212
@kengreene5212 Год назад
👍👍👍
@salpezzino7803
@salpezzino7803 7 месяцев назад
was that Leslie Nelson at the beginning?
@JonathanRedden-wh6un
@JonathanRedden-wh6un 3 месяца назад
History has shown that revival is often associated with significant persecution e.g the Protestant reformation, modern China and Iran. It is right to pray for revival but we need to accept the challenge of accompanying likely opposition and persecution. Blessings from the uk.
@happihippo5633
@happihippo5633 Год назад
Interesting
@faithreformedbaptistchurch8826
I'm to the truth Robert Godfrey
@joshuafriedrick
@joshuafriedrick Год назад
No offense, but the speaker has hand picked the common criticism from the reformed side against Finney, but he has not done his homework on Finney. Finney sometimes preached everyday for a month or more before he ever made an alter call.
@joshuafriedrick
@joshuafriedrick Год назад
@@JC-sj2pd where?
@user-mg2oq1od2t
@user-mg2oq1od2t 9 месяцев назад
It is the historic record. Read his autobiography.
@AdventureSMBW
@AdventureSMBW 9 месяцев назад
Thank you. Reformed people are deceptively one-sided with anyone not in their camp. What a shame.
@SpencerCourtis
@SpencerCourtis 9 месяцев назад
Correct. This is an account of a man who has studied the teachings of Finney in part and not in its entirety. How sad to judge a man whom they say was second to Paul the Apostle and who led thousands to our Lord Jesus and a deeper relationship with our Father. "Touch not God's anointed."
@edwardelliott5756
@edwardelliott5756 5 месяцев назад
Finney was pelagian. He did not believe in original sin nor the substitutionary atonement. In short, heretical.
@jonpirtle2605
@jonpirtle2605 Год назад
Appreciate Bob G. so much.Habakkuk 2:14, not Isaiah, is what Bob should've said.
@irontius
@irontius Год назад
What I read is when Finney visit a factory, without any words spoken, the persons there trembled by the fear of God all together just like what Mr. Sproul claimed he had his experience himself. Since I was not there at that moment, I have no idea if that story is real or not. What do you think?
@JohnAngusMacDonald
@JohnAngusMacDonald 10 месяцев назад
That's a true story. The workers gad heard his preaching, so when he showed up and the recognized him, their hearts were convicted because they had not yet been saved and they knew it.
@SpencerCourtis
@SpencerCourtis 9 месяцев назад
The account is true
@markwood1668
@markwood1668 7 месяцев назад
Man convicting other men cannot be considered effectual.
@msf2126
@msf2126 4 месяца назад
​@@markwood1668wasn't man though.they were convicted by the Holy Spirit.
@johntobey1558
@johntobey1558 3 месяца назад
This formst needs some updating, tramsluscent amd see through writing boards, and teaching with back lit font, to improve on the old chalk boards that our dearly departed brother R.C. Sproul once did. This needs am aesthetic amd optic refresh to complimet the erudition of this pedagogy.
@TAdler-ex8px
@TAdler-ex8px Год назад
The only thing we have to lose by coming forward in humility before God is self willed pride. I will run to the altar and humble myself before my God, because by His grace alone I am a vessel and a vassal of the Holy Spirit who bids me to come to surrender and lead others to surrender. Charles Finney loved souls and so did Billy Graham who called people to come openly to Christ. If anyone reading this agrees, please pray for those who are lost, those inside and outside the church building, pray He will for the sake of the Lamb’s reward for the cross.
@edwardelliott5756
@edwardelliott5756 5 месяцев назад
Finney was pelagian. He did not believe in the substitutionary atonement nor original sin. You are incorrect if you assume there was any good in you,” for we are dead in trespasses and sin.” You were dead and only the grace of God can save you. He made you alive in Christ and you only received it.
@joeycolombo2549
@joeycolombo2549 9 месяцев назад
Did John the Baptist teach repentance yes
@ThomasCranmer1959
@ThomasCranmer1959 Год назад
WLC!!
@nightowl16201
@nightowl16201 5 месяцев назад
I grew up in the Assembly of God I speak in tongues when I pray alone in my prayer closet. I never seen disorder, that’s not scriptural.
@robertnarboe6689
@robertnarboe6689 Месяц назад
Finley man save your self
@gabrielclymer5340
@gabrielclymer5340 7 месяцев назад
Finney was a man of God of incredible character and power. Anyone in his day opposing him was genuinely incredibly deceived. This man's assessment is void of the actual reason for Finneys success: He was SOLD OUT to Christ and FILLED with the Holy Spirit. He preached his entire career without writing a sermon but 3 times.. he got up and the Holy Spirit literally filled his mouth. And he lead lawyers and judges and every to Christ.
@trackingspecialists2554
@trackingspecialists2554 5 месяцев назад
Fully agreed- under Finney’s preaching, upwards of 80% remained true to Christ. He was lead by the Spirit. His greatest reason for the alter call was to help people overcome public opinion (where we are afraid of what others might think of our coming to Christ). It is important to go forward publicly to overcome that monster. Christ also encourages us to come forward and be counted!
@edwardelliott5756
@edwardelliott5756 5 месяцев назад
Finney was pelagian. He denied original sin and the substitutionary atonement. Sorry these were false conversions due to feelings and experience, not real conversions.
@TAdler-ex8px
@TAdler-ex8px 5 месяцев назад
@@edwardelliott5756 You are making assertions to discredit. Something Charles Finney regularly speaks about dealing with in his autobiography. Mostly from Calvinists, but he was not influenced, he was more interested in the fruit of souls rather than the praises of men. I’m sure your intentions are honorable and you’re not trying to merely dominate others.
@HearGodsWord
@HearGodsWord Год назад
Finney was a very good preacher. Unfortunately, his message was a bit off.
@scottcamp9266
@scottcamp9266 3 месяца назад
Not impressed with the evangelistic efforts of the old light Presbyterians😭
@gabrielclymer5340
@gabrielclymer5340 7 месяцев назад
Reading Finneys critics is like reading the pharisees criticisms of Jesus haha same exact reality of things. Some day those men and this one will really know the truth.. I wish the men of God throughout history weren't Always persecuted by the religious but this is the way it goes..
@edwardelliott5756
@edwardelliott5756 5 месяцев назад
You will live to regret that.
@TAdler-ex8px
@TAdler-ex8px 5 месяцев назад
Gabriel, I agree with you that those who strongly assert that Charles Finney was a heretic are likely very envious of his success. We have nothing that we haven’t received and truly have no need to dominate ourselves or condemn anyone. We’re dependent upon our Lord for everything and we’re in GREAT hands! I hope you will keep striving for peace with others and for holiness without which, no one will see the Lord. Blessings!
@joeycolombo2549
@joeycolombo2549 9 месяцев назад
King David ask God to enlarge hi heart not enlarge his theology
@austinrumpel2281
@austinrumpel2281 Месяц назад
Charles Finney did more for Jesus than probably anyone who criticizes him.
@itiswhatitis321
@itiswhatitis321 8 месяцев назад
How many have you led to God? I guarantee nowhere near as many as Finney.
@user-mg2oq1od2t
@user-mg2oq1od2t 9 месяцев назад
It is distinctly interesting to me that Hodge, later Warfield and now Godfrey are willing to straw man a man of God and refuse to read and consider Finney’s own answers to the objection they make. It is the most uncharitable treatment of ministers of the gospel. Godfrey quoting Warfield’s book cracks me up as I wrote a review of that book thirty years ago showing it was full of logical fallacies and nothing more.
@AdventureSMBW
@AdventureSMBW 9 месяцев назад
Welcome to the Reformed crowd. Luther and Calvin were never wrong and everyone not in their camp is always wrong. Never objective in their assessment of church history and its figures.
@michaelpoapst9465
@michaelpoapst9465 Год назад
Finney was a lost !!!
@SpencerCourtis
@SpencerCourtis 9 месяцев назад
This is an account of a man who has studied the teachings of Finney in part and not in its entirety. How sad to judge a man whom they say was second to Paul the Apostle and who led thousands to our Lord Jesus and a deeper relationship with our Father. "Touch not God's anointed."
@gabrielclymer5340
@gabrielclymer5340 7 месяцев назад
This is literally a pharisee quoting pharisees and their thoughts about a real man of God. Read about Finneys life for yourself and you'll see the absolute surrender to and love for God he had. His contemporaries were jealous and deceived.
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