Hey guys, I am very happy to see the progress you have made. As the former owner of Blue Moon my wife and I have been watching your videos with a combination of happiness for you and sadness because we loved that boat and miss it. All of the points you respectfully raised in your cost videos are very fair. I personally was a little shocked and very disappointed to see how quickly the boat degraded while sitting on the pin. Let that be a warning to others who are thinking a boat makes a great holiday spot. It does, but for us, after travelling to Pender Island then spending two days cleaning/drying everything and a day or two to repair what went wrong and wow suddenly this hasn't been much of a relaxing holiday so far! Yes the shift cable was a shocking bill to pay. If I had known I would have replaced it myself.Sorry. It does however make me feel a little better about the hose that rubbed through during your passage. I was sick that perhaps I had left such a potentially hazardous situation for you. Your mechanic (I sincerely hope I don't know who you used) should have left that in a better state after spending 9hrs working in the area. As you know we live on a boat up island. We are battling the same issues. Corroding hardware from former owners and their terrible repairs, condensation, mould in the most surprising places and the occasional rough seas. In the end it is definitely not for everyone but for those of us who do like it well, we love it. You have made that boat yours, I am so happy that Blue Moon is being cared for the way she deserves. She will do the same for you. G&D
That mechanic needs to be stopped enough said about that. I have a late 80 Catalina 30 I am about to convert to electric drive and remove all the diesel equipment. I will be more than happy to donate any usable diesel parts to blue moon. I think they got a great vessel to set our with.
Hi Glen, It was heartwarming to read this message from you. Both Gillian and I want to thank you again for this vessel, you have helped to make many of our dreams come true. As someone (this is Jonas writing) who is new to the world of sailboats, I have been amazed and humbled by the lineage and history that each boat carries with it. As you mention, it seems to me they require almost daily care, and this is a time commitment that is close to impossible for most people to make, especially if they have professional/family/life obligations and other challenges. We don't want you to feel any guilt about the condition of the vessel during the sale: in fact, we are so grateful for it! We feel that you sold it for a very reasonable price, a price which has allowed us, as young people, to be able to live this way. As a fellow liveaboard, you will know more than most what it is like to live in a space like this and face all little hiccups, but at the end of it all is an enduring sense of love and appreciation for these majestic floating objects we have chosen to live aboard. The sea and the weather and the bird poop tries to push back, but we'll keep at it!! Thanks again for everything, we are happy that you saw the video and reached out! Jonas & Gill
I suggest you to put a WiFi antenna on the mast with a repeater inside the cabin. You can find some preatty affordable solutions. You may also add a cell booster in the future once you'll start crusing. I'm a computer engeneer and I'd love to help you if you need.
Hi Neighbors! It's Mark and Juan on Illusive! We have been loving your videos (and it's super cool to think you are just around the corner on the dock!). I 100% agree with you about the gym pass being a great addition to a budget (for those long showers and movement!) I (Mark) have been going to the YMCA gym down the road and it's been very quiet and they have great protocols in place there! :-)
Hi Mark and Juan, so nice to see this comment from you!! We are happy you like the videos so far, hopefully they do justice to our shared experience down here on the docks. This is such an amazing community so far, we feel very welcomed and there is so much wisdom to pick up. It is cool to think that we all face similar challenges. Enjoy the week and we will see you around, of course ;)
@@BlueMoonLife we too feel so grateful for the community! We were previously in a small marina in Sooke and the only liveaboard sailboat and it felt quite lonely! Once we arrived in Victoria it was so eye opening and inspiring to be surrounded by many others with similar dreams! :-) See you soon! :-)
Well, everything moved along way faster than I expected I now have a Catalina 27 in the Gulf Islands. First boat I looked at, sound familiar ... lol. Now to do all that fun initial cleaning and maintenance work, after getting the supplies I need. And also learn how to operate and sail this boat going to be a while.
I am thinking that your maintenance cost estimate is way low. You have to pay for a haul out, yard time, cleaning, bottom paint (about $200 US per gallon), and maybe labor. And a huge hit every five or ten years to replace standing rigging, plus of course sails. I would guess 2- 3 K per year if you can do most of the work yourself. BUT I like your video and your personal sparkle you bring to this.
That was great that you informed nubies that it's not cheaper, but a way of life. On paying that much for showers. Hook up an inline water heater in the helm and shower outside for free. A $20 propane tank refill last for 4 months including cooking on your grill and stove.
Definitely look into a galvanic isolator if you're living full time on shore power. The issue is basically that without one, your shore power line is connecting you electrically to all the other boats so that everybody is sharing all the zinc anodes. Whichever anodes are in good condition will take up the slack for whichever ones are in bad condition, with no regard for who owns which anode. Changing your anodes frequently just means you're helping protect the boats of the people who don't care enough to protect their own boat. You need an isolator if you want your zinc to protect your boat without also protecting all your neighbors' boats.
Nice to see a video on the west coast. We are on Vancouver Island so the prices are very comparable. Like the truth you told and the pro’s and con’s based on how you choose to live. It’s definitely not for everyone. Just a thought, I didn’t hear you talk about budgeting for boat insurance in all your calculations.
Jillian is a boat person for sure the savings is a bonus. The hot summer days will make it all worthwhile. Next thought well be where is there a place with more hot summer days. There are so many islands around B.C sailing to Victoria would be fun. Cost breakdown excellent.
Hey guys our family of four bought our first sail boat that was a 79 catilina 30. Moving up to our 42 foot cascade ketch with a shower,laundry, and a proper diesel heater makes a huge difference 👌
@@BlueMoonLife I'm a mechine and marine electrician. We are just south of you guys in poulsbo wa and will be in the San jauns if you guys need any help. #sailingpnw
I'm a local, amazing finding content like this in the area. Good for you guys. I'm 23, in my last year at uni, and have to move out this summer from my student house with my 3 roomates.. Expecting costs to skyrocket. So interesting to see alternatives like this. I've always considered sailing as a hobby and even maybe for living, content like this really pushes me to consider it further. Side note; I highly suggest a book called 'The Philosophy of Sailing' by Christian Williams. It got me so much more into sailing than I was before, even though I've been around boats my entire life. Anyway, cheers guys.
Thanks so much, that is fantastic! We were faced with a similar situation, and it is amazing how interesting alternative lifestyles can be! I will definitely check out that book. Thanks for the suggestion and good luck with the rest of the semester and your search for 'housing' :D
You two are awesome!!! Downsizing life is the key to happiness. We downsized our life. It has made a world of difference. Keep being authentic and real. It is the only way to life. The breakdown was very well put together. Easy to follow. Keep making awesome videos and telling your story. Evelyn and I are looking forward to the next episode.
Great job guys! Love where your at! We've been up to Victoria and the Bouchart Gardens, both very beautiful places! Nice clear and informative video 👍🙏🌹!
I lived, with my wife and 2 children, for 5 years on the east cost of the US and Caribbean. Good to see a young couple living on a boat. Consider getting a good router that you can hook a larger antenna to for your WiFI - I have used that combination with a marina and 3/4 of a mile to the marina router. Router around $50, antena $75 wiring $22. Look for an RV long range WIFi antenna - needs to be a non-directional antenna because the boat moves around. I think your maintenance numbers are low. We were also taking open ocean trips (Chesapeake Bay to Bahamas for example) . Our boat was larger, a 50 foot Benetau.
Very good other then your estimate of house upkeep. It’s probably more then a boat to be honest. Hot water tanks dishwasher laundry machine fridge new roof all thing I have had to fix multiple times over the last few years in our house plus so much more.
Depends where you are but it is very common. The busier the marina the more likely to see pay showers. Often free for members and guests of the marina. One marina near here has two set of bathrooms, one for the public which costs 25cents (last time i saw) and a free one for marina members. This one used to be free for the public but it kept getting trashed, not in a graffiti or damaged way I dont think. That set of bathrooms is also off to the side of the marina area and on faces some hotels and other popular walkways for tourists and locals. Usually the charge is something like 25cents and I admit the bathrooms by the hotels have been much better since they did that. One issue is that the area there is in need of more public bathrooms so charging for one doesnt always help with that. But, its also a private bathroom that the only reason there is a charge is due to a few who disrespected a basic necessity like a toilet. So, I dont blame them. (that one by the hotel only has showers in their member bathrooms tho).
Wow. Boat costs in the us are beyond insanity. Your monthly rent is almost the same as the cost of my mooring in the lakes in the UK for the entire year.
Interesting break down, roughly in the same region as you guys NOT BC. How ever I own a house now. I plan on moving onto a sail boat myself. I've been trying to get a rough idea of the way of keeping warm and heat in the boat as well. So thank you. Just a ton of research on it before I can actually go through with everything. For me it would not be about saving money since I am already retired it would be about living on the boat. Of course I wouldn't be having a regular engine I would gut that and go full electric.
Throwback Thursday….good info. Repair and maintenance for me is approx 10% of the vessel value annually (my 1996 catamaran is effectively fully depreciated). Fun analysis….thx, Andrew in Florida
I love your stile Ladds , smart way to just enjoy life Nd have time with not much stress !!! Sure it takes a mind set to diy to save Nd be independent . Great work guys !
Hello from Southern California , your marina rates are roughly the same as ours . Except water and power are included in the slip rent , no charge for showers . We are in Alamitos Bay Long beach , Ca . North from us is Wilmington , slip rent there is a little cheaper and they have a nice DIY boat yard . South from us is Newport , the prices there are crazy . A little further is Dana point , a little more $'s then Long Beach and there is a waiting list . Next South , is San Diego , about the same as Dana . Next South , Mexico ! All these marina's allow live aboards with a extra fee of about $120.00 for a couple . From our harbor Alamitos , only 26 miles off shore is Catalina Island . Check it out . Good luck , you two .
Thank you so much! Good to know about the marina rates... I am very jealous of the free showers haha. It is so great to hear of other affordable live aboard marinas. Perhaps we will make it down there one day :D
Great video you guys. Good information too. My attempt at a live-abord life ended in bankruptcy and yes a long sad story, but it is so good to see a nice couple like yourselves live the boating dream. Good for you, enjoy your life everyday! Stay safe.
You guys should do a Q&A! What are you studying in school/doing for work? What are the challenges you've faced with no wifi and how have you dealt with the consequences? I grew up in Victoria and am living in Vancouver with my bf now. I'm also a student and we are moving onto our sailboat in 2 weeks - wifi will not be possible since our slip is waaayyyy on the end of the finger so I'm still sorting out how to cope with that. Anyway, love the vlog so far! I was stoked youtube recommended it :)
Hey thanks so much for this!! That is so exciting you will be moving aboard soon, you should keep in touch and let us know how it is going! We are always curious about other people's experiences, especially people at a similar stage in their life! We have started a list of questions for an upcoming Q/A so those will be added! Thanks again for the comment, happy to hear from someone in a similar situation!
Comment issues....Get a Yandina Galvanic Isolater to keep your metalsand zincs on the boat while on shore power. Also to pick up wifi better you can either buy a wireless bridge with a directional antenna or something like a Ubiquity Bullet M2 and an antenna. Also they sell five gallon water heaters for around a hundred dollars. If you don't have one already some people install those for showers...though getting the water to the heater is probably an issue for you.
Love a Catalina :-) I have been doing a breakdown amd my boat cost 1600 a week to own and fix up so far I’ve owned for a year and have a three year plan to hopefully have fixed up by then where at that point the costs of ownership will hopefully be much less ! On other side my marina fee is about $320 a month including electricity for a 49’ boat
Hey there. So nice to see that budget, priority and challenges are pretty much the same as here in Denmark ;-) You posted a video that describe my life as a live-aboard spot on (I lived on a sailboat for 16 years). Those things you mention makes so much sense for people who consider this lifestyle. Thanks again. Greetings from Mie, Denmark.
In view of your last comment about cost I was always told boat owning is like standing under a cold shower tearing up £50 notes. It is sometimes, but always worth it.
Nice video, I have owned 5 houses and there is a LOT of maintenance you wouldn't get in an apt, water heaters, plumbing, roofing etc, I am in a big house now and it's too expensive to heat the whole thing. I plan on moving on to my Catalina 30, I assume you were calculating in Canadian dollars. I am going to rent a storage unit that will fit my BMW Convertable and use my Land Rover to sit outside at the marina, then I can put my winter/summer clothes swap out etc in there to free up space in the boat and weight when I go cruising. I did put my boat on the list for rental when I am away and they did rent my space out when I was away for weekends or a week etc so that helps a little during the summer. Good luck with the boat, I know I love mine too and people need to know if you don't like to putter on boats it won't work out too well, things are better when you do maintenance a little at a time, and cleaning and polishing while enjoying the sun and a beer becomes a lifestyle.
Am binge watching all your episodes...very refreshing ...keep up the great work and casual style,loving it. Hi from Tasmania Australia . p.s. Is that big hotel behind your marina the one that was covered in ivy in the 1980's ?? Visited once and it was magnificent.
As a owner of a house built in 1973. This summer I have to replace all my windows due to them being worn out. It will be about 25,000 just for that. On average I spend 100 a month on matnance and repairs.
300 bucks and you can buy a wifi range expander. It would have an antenna outside and one inside. It includes an amplifier. So attach it to your mast and the amp and other antenna inside and poof your wifi issue is over.
Cheaper and more fun! I've lived on a boat for a couple of years total, and I'd be living on one right now if my wife would agree to it. Good to see people figure it out when young!
I enjoy these videos very much. Good job. Is a Blue Moon website in the works? Maybe some merch? How about a Patreon page, and maybe even an Amazon wish-list? Might as well take advantage of all income sources. Good storytelling is all about facing challenges and learning from them. Adventure content is good, but youtube is full of that. What makes you stand out is your story, and the way you handle your challenges. It really helps to have a respectful relationship, as you do, with a capable girl-half who kicks a$$ when required. Nothing is better than a girl who isn't afraid to take on the world.
Thanks so much for this comment! You have brought up something we have been thinking about a lot...we aren't sure yet how we want to proceed, although we are thinking about a Patreon or a website to serve a similar function. And you are sure right about a capable second half, Gillian is remarkable (this is Jonas writing). Thanks again!!
I could hear the bells from the Royal BC Museum in the background (8:30). That "electricity thing" in good reason why you don't swim in the marina. You could get electrocuted from the stray electricity in the water. They also say you should budget about 10% of your boat's value in yearly maintenance expenses. So, in your case, about $1300 (or roughly $100/month?)
Wow! That is so much higher than where I am docked. Water, showers and such are included in the $120 per month fee here, the electric bill is expensive during the winter months however. Brought it to just under $200. Great video as always. 🙂
Sadly you are not comparing the same things. Victoria is located in one of the most desirable places in the world and they are moored in a top notch marina at the harbour. I googled Paris Landing - it is on the Tennessee River and a lake and not located centrally downtown. The Victoria Harbour is located in a perfect spot to visit the beautiful Gulf Islands of BC. Plus, they are within walking distance of a lot of amenities including work. Plus, rents in the lower mainland of BC are some of the highest in the world so you cannot pass judgement on what they are paying. When they told us the price per foot of their boat it was lower than what we pay in Downtown Vancouver (BC) so it doesn't seem that high to us. It is all relative.
Consider dropping $100 on a 30 amp galvanic isolator. It connects to the single ground wire on the 30 amp supply and will eliminate your neighbors electric from eating your zincs. I learned the hard way after losing a prop :-(
@@BlueMoonLife I like your videos a lot and look at them all. I got a lot of information about electricity on the boat here: www.pysystems.ca/products/power/galvanic-isolator/ this is especially about zinc anodes
And don't forget emergency money you will need in case some other boat hits you which does happen more then you think. And when you run around you will need money for a tow and repairs. You will run aground. And during storms you need a way to keep warm when the power goes out. And sometimes you need to motor around in a storm. People think you can live cheap on a boat but in reality it's about the same price as living in a rental on land.
I got rogers 100 gigs of high speed data, then an unlimited slower speed after that, for $180 a month (cell service included). I find rogers has the best service to cruise the gulf islands. I've considered the new satellite data, but that requires the constant repositioning of the dish.
A practical couple willing to sacrifice in order to get what you "really" want... Way to go guys. Your future will be happier than stockpiling a ton of expensive crap you will have to offload for nothing later. Stay the course. :)
Bust out another Thousand haha. In the case of you two great kids it is bust out another thousand subscribers. Just A few weeks ago remember I said to make them o er ten minutes so you could monetize? Your there now. Makes me smile seeing that 1/1,600 th of a penny ad on your videos now. If you need any advice on mantinace or repair feel free to email me. I will even make a video to help you see what to do. However my diesel is going out so a electric conversion can go in. Besides I need to do more to get my first 1000 subscribers on this channel of mine haha.
The cost breakdown is roughly the same as the marina where I live, showers and power are included. But it's pretty close when comparing. You said nothing about ather livabord and the social environment in the marina. I totally agree with the reasoning to move onto a boat, it's not for affordability, but something that you do because you love it.
Thanks, your numbers confirm some of my research. I was a little surprised at how cheap certain costs were. But I too am somewhat concerned about availability of spots if and when I finally try this. At this point however, I am just at step one, moving from Manitoba to Victoria. Next will be learning about sailing and sailboats. A little later in life in my case, but I am going to at least try to do this.
You should triple the maintenance cost. The outhaul and bottom job could be stretched out every two years in colder climates. I had a diver come out 4 times a year to scrub the bottom and replace the zincs that cost about $300 each time. He had a cool setup that you could copy for part time business. He had a Non Oil Based Air Compressor with an added 5 micron filter that hooked up to dockside power. The air hose was hooked up to a scuba regulator, so at less than 30 feet deep, he could stay under water as long as he needed to. He wore a scuba suit, weight belt, mask, & regulator. Jumped in beside the boat with a scraper and brush and went to work. Also, BOAT is an acronym that stands for "Bring On Another Thousand".
Gillian and Jonas, the two of you make a very good team that many of us, both fellow sailors and landlubbers, are going to adopt and follow with the same amount of passion that you both show in your videos. Thank you both. Steve.
I dont know how environmental you can get about a boat, as theyre not insulated so heating is on 24/7 in the winter. And the gallons of paint for the bottoms and decks every few years.. Not to be confrontational, just realistic. But I wouldnt worry about it at all.
I really enjoyed this episode. Life is always coming down to decisions, choices, pros and cons and ultimately, we either need to do what we do or get to do what makes us happy, lol! Don't know if the wifi extender you mentioned in one of the previous comments is the same as weBoost (for example) which I'm told, can triple your potential. May God Bless You Both 🙏🏻 Edit: Just Subscribed 😁
I could do this. I don't want to lol, I want to travel, but when the money runs low and my health goes to shit it's nice to know there is an option in Canada I could afford. I'm an east coaster, can't live aboard year round here, looks like BC is in my future! Get a wifi range extender, they're only about $35 at Walmart and work great!
Very enjoyable and educational, only input missing was you did not factor in the purchase price of the boat and insurance. Maybe running the numbers with the purchase price amortized over 15 years (into a monthly number) along with all the other costs you covered would give a more reasonable number. But whatever way you calculate, you are doing the right thing in living a low carbon life, and this is very laudable.
Thanks so much for the comment Bill, that is a good idea to amortize over a longer period, would give people a better idea about the cost to "get into it," as compared with other options. We were nervous to post this video because we know how different everybody's costs/financial situations are, but we wanted to share in case the information was useful to people!
Your laundry costs are on the high side as are your shower fees. Offer to babysit at a local residence in exchange for doing your laundry and doing your wash. A lot of parents will jump on that, although perhaps not so much during the whole covid thing.
Yes i hear the waitlists there are crazy! Also i just did a fly over on Google Earth Airlines and some marinas are too close to industry out there. On the wifi side, Starlink is $600 for the equipment and 130/month with great speeds. Unfortunately it needs to be configured for a fixed location on your dock. You cant rove with the technology yet....im waiting for Elons designers to make that happen for me....im still two years from expunging my worldly possessions and buying the catamaran so hopefully by then because boosters and delorme is not satisfactory for my requirements. Good video
Do you not have Yacht clubs? much cheaper and everything is included and free reciprocal with other clubs .I have a 36 ft sailboat 12.6 beam and pay 3000 per year in Ontario , unlimited showers ,barbecues, pump outs, wifi
There are clubs in this region but to our knowledge most have very long waiting lists and would likely be comparable or more expensive! Thanks for the comment!
Saw you guys from an article here in Victoria! We are also from the island and I am living such a different style of life. However I truly find it intriguing what you two are doing. Bravo. Inspiring a lot of people.
So some false equations in your budget (this is a good thing ^^) So first one is assumed depreciation, especially at 5%/yr which I feel is not accurate. In fact if you take the state you bought the boat in, then consider the repairs you have done.. and how much you can sell her for now. I bet your boat has appreciated in value, ie you can sell it for more now. So your maintenance budget (seems tight to me, but I have a 40' cutter in Sooke so I could be skewed), is also funding the value ie maintaining the value of your boat. Depreciation charts usually take the average for you model/year etc, it does not take in outliers. So if you are bringing the boat back from the dead essentially, sure for the $600/yr (rough) most of it is lost.. but some of it adds value to your vessel. All your other numbers seem spot on :) and neat things too, you can take out mortgages on boats in Canada. So if you keep this one bristol, you may not see any depreciation, you may see appreciation and as things evolve you can sell and use the cash as a downpayment on a bigger vessel or a house (bigger vessel 40 years old and fix her up so you make appreciation potentially on it and equity). Take care good video
Thanks so much for taking the time to leave this comment! We are happy to hear the depreciation figure might be a bit off...and we do feel that this vessel has likely increased in value since the sale, nice to know there is some equity in it as long as we are able to keep it in good condition!
Count your blessings! You have your youthfulness, health and a nice small sailboat. BTW - you almost got the acronym correct for “B.O.A.T.”, BREAK out another thousand! Get used to it because it never ceases. I’ve decided over twenty years of boat ownership to revise mine to “Break out another TEN thousand! Here’s another one for you; K.I.S.S. - Keep it Simple Sailors! Best of luck guys.
Thanks so much, we will count our blessings!! We are very lucky to be here. Good idea maybe to add another decimal point into the acronym...then no surprises!
House, car, boat, children = money, you can just as easily have a damp problem in your basement, or a plumbing failure, structural issues (especially in Canada and the US where houses are predominately wood as you can on a boat, oil changes, bottom paint, annodes etc are no different to car or house maintenance like painting, roof repairs etc. I've just sold my house, car, toys etc. in South Africa and bought an 8 year old chined steel Van De Stadt 34' fully ocean rated and cruise equipped for less than a second hand 4×4 pickup, the big difference between a boat and a house is that a boat is a machine primarily and as such needs to be used as opposed to standing around, the vast majority of sailboats have system or structural failures because of lack of use, I live at anchor and have a mooring ball for lee shore conditions and convenience,my monthly expenses are around 400$ US a month, all included, as opposed to the 900$ I was paying on land (car expenses excluded) big difference and I have no issues doing my laundry in a bucket or taking it to a laundromat, I do however sail my boat almost daily and not donald duck 15 mile sails, I do offshore passages regularly with lots of night sailing and 150 mile trips, just to keep it all in good shape, if you don't, stuff will break and it will cost you a lot more than it has to. It's a sailboat after all, not a houseboat. BTW those marina fees are ridiculously expensive. It's obviously all relative. The changes you've had to make are all "comforts and luxuries", remember that the vast majority of people who live in a house have a car or 2, they need tyres, services, oil changes etc. I traded forced responsibilities and costs for voluntary responsibilities and costs. Just sail the damn boat, otherwise you may as well have bought a houseboat. Sure Canada gets cold in winter so that's a consideration, I choose to live on the hook from Monday to Friday and go to my mooring ball for the weekends, but I sail a lot as I'm planning a solo Atlantic crossing from Cape Town to Grenada soon so I want to be as best prepared as possible (boat and me) I also have a big enough house bank and solar array to sustain that, again not a massive expense when compared to utility bills.
@@BlueMoonLife many thanks, I am by no means an accomplished offshore skipper, a work in progress, but I have sailed more than enough offshore miles under race conditions and cruising in and around South Africa, totally different challenges, conditions and circumstances, no mater where you are a sailboat is still a sailboat, a machine with working components and systems that need to be used, same as a property that you lock up and leave for an extended period, when you turn on the hot water after a Canadian summer/winter cycle without continuous use you have a 50/50 chance of something not working, as with a car, you can't leave it standing for a long time in one place and expect it to run properly. Yachts are meant to be used, I've literally seen hundreds rot away or have horrible issues from lack of use, nice from far, far from nice. If I'm looking at a 30/40 year old boat and it's diesel has 500 hours, I'm expecting shit, if it gas 4000 hours, I'll be more hopeful, same with everything, my point is this, one day you decide to slip lines and go sailing and you get a bit of a blow, say 30 knots true (which is a moderate windspeed) you haven't checked your halyard sheaves, your stay hounds or your furling drum, or serviced your steering gear and you are overcanvassed with a heap of weather helm and try to reef but your main halyard is jamned at the masthead sheave block so can't ease the halyard, because of that ypur steering cable breaks and your furling system has issues with a seized top roller bearing so you're now overpowered, can't reduce sail area and have no steerage, can't find the emergency tiller, are drifting into a TSS and have an AIS target at CPA 2 miles traveling at 16 knots displacing 70 000 tons. ??????? All because of LACK of use and maintenance. Just be careful, the sea is a very unforgiving place. I've left port under power in 0.3 knots and 45 minutes later was hove to with a triple reefed main and reefed storm jib sheeted through the inboard cars (inside the shrouds and forward on the cabin top) to maintain sheet angles for sailing close hauled heavy weather with storm sails in 49 knots true with catabatic gusts in the upper 50's. In 45 minutes, we were well prepared and had no problems, but it can get hectic out there. Sure totally different circumstances and challenges apply in a city like Vancouver, black water pump outs etc...... I don't waste money on shit like like that, excuse the punn, I sail the mandatory miles offshore and discharge overboard, as per local and intl. maritime regulations, and anybody who has issues with that, my answer is this question 'where does every living sea creature shit"?????? In the sea, I use that as an opportunity to sail and dump my waste, keeps the crabs, prawns, lobsters etc happy😂😂😂😂
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on mooring fees. We had a 27ft Gibsea, a fabulous boat. Wherever we went in Europe it was very noticeable that marinas operate a negative taxation policy, i. e. the longer the boat, the lower the cost. Pretty mean and only once could I win the argument and get a discount. Good sailing!
TRY a TELUS HUB for internet, we're in Gibsons its excellent.!! we are on a 38 ' Catalina..we only have 20 amp service @ 30 per month.. we also have a home property in north eastern Alberta that is solar powered .. i feel we have far greater impact on the environment here than at home , but it doesn't go down to -50 here or snow near as much.. good talk just the same..
Thanks for this, we have considered that! Might be necessary come the summer time, good to hear it works well in Gibsons, we would love to get over there!
Hey guys I think you guys are doing great this is Elliot from Tacoma Washington one concern when you guys were working on your Keal boltl is your I think bowls that were pretty rusty
Incredible expensive mooring! Here in Norway I pay 400$ for mooring, electricity, water (everything) for my Beneteau first 24 per season. Why don't you come over :)
@@magdakaniewski 400$ per season (1/2 year.) Off season, it's on land so it doesn't get damaged by the ice. It's cheap because it is over 1100 boats here and 2 guys running it + discount if you would volenteer sometime.
I appreciate you lifestyle and in retrospect I would have done similar. I would think scuba diving would be an investment in your lifestyle and thoughts about sustainability. Thank you so much for a very informative video
Great channel ! Marina life is great. I never lived on my boat fulltime but spent many weekends on it in the marina on the Mississippi had free showers & laundry and was only $1800 per year for a covered slip ! Hope it warms up soon so Gillian can break out the bikini's but I'm sure she looks great in Carhartt bibs too 🤭 from sunny & 60 degree St.Louis Mo. ✌️💜🎸
"You have to cut the grass but you don't have to change the oil". Um, no. If you cut the grass, you maintain the mower. And if you live anywhere remotely affordable you probably change the oil in the car, which most liveaboards don't have. Replace a $20k roof every 20 years, appliances every 5-10 years, HVAC every 15-20 years etc etc. Houses are a lot of maintenance. Only thing you really miss on a boat is POTENTIAL appreciation of real estate, but many people lose money on houses if they make a true accounting of all costs.
I think Dan might be right. Shouldn't you set aside an amount for replacement of stuff that has a limited life span? Like rigging, bottom paint, engine overhaul, through-hulls, hoses, sails, etc...actually, pretty much everything in and on the boat.
Except houses Appreciate...last 5 years have been crazy, hard to beat 15%+ annual increases in value. Houses still suck but they are a great investment
I own both as we'll, it's kind of comparing apples to oranges. Or power boat sail boat, the only relationship is they both need water. Boat/house the only comparison is they are place of dwelling. Besides that it's a total different life, if one has done of shore, long-distance sailing.
ante cost to home ownership in BC is MUCH higher than ante cost to get a sailboat.... so yes real estate appreciates but only if you can afford to buy in ....
@@BlueMoonLife Usually about 1 NMU = 10 USD. ;-) Seems like everything for a boat costs about ten times what you think it should. I guess that's alright though because I'm currently shopping for my first boat. Aviation Monetary Units convert at roughly 1 AMU = 100 USD. I gave up on my aviation dreams, I'm buying a boat.
The 1600 average price is odd cause I have never seen a 1 bedroom even close to that price when searching for housing and like 900$ bedroom in oak bay is close enough to not have to drive still more expensive. But not 1600 for rent a Month.
$1600 for an unfurnished 1 bdrm in the lower mainland is accurate. I live in downtown vancouver and pay $1900. $900 gets you a room perhaps, not an apartment.
Thanks for the comment, it is just an average figure so likely to be inaccurate for certain circumstances! Although for our area I suspect we would have a difficult time finding anything less than twice our current obligations!
@@awesomehockey09 My point was $1600 for the lower mainland is accurate (not just vancouver, but lower mainland). You're doing well if you're paying $900/mth!
