Careful there, last time I did a video where I briefly fired up a 66mhz 486 without a heatsink some of my subs made a few phone calls to CPS (CPU Protective Services)
Picked up a Socket 754 board a few weeks back, An ASUS K8V-X. Can't test it yet as the processor it came with has a ton of missing pins, and refuses to post. £5 for the board and a Radeon 9550, around $7 so I couldn't pass the offer.
I had a N.O.S Juniper WXC-250 web application accelerator in a sealed Juniper box that had blown caps that I got last year. The board was a Socket 478 board with a Northwood Celeron and 1GB of RAM.
I just saw that. I'd like to get a mobile athlon 64 4000 up and running on this board, but I have another chip on the way which should be quite interesting to test.
HPZeta Worst ever issue with Asrock, is the use of chinese low grade caps. I have not seen an Asrock from the mid 00's that ran more than 5 years, if used some 4 to 8 hours a day.
Video quality is clear. Despite the shortcomings of the 754 versus the 939 platform, I found them to be far more reliable for some reason. Had to laugh at the use of your hand as a heatsink, lost a few layers of skin doing that but it seems we all just put our hands right back on for the next chip. The K8 always seemed slower than the K7, clock for clock, to me, so time will tell if you find the same when testing this or if it was just a problem with a specific set of boards very early on.
I was trying to solve the same thing some months ago. Out of my curiosity I tried to run a mobile CPU on a 754 motherboard (with latest BIOS), and it refused to work unless the cooler was firmly mounted on it with paste (same with some other chips with standard IHS), chip became immediately very hot (untouchable). Then there was a problem of what to use as the cooler since those generic AMD coolers did not reach deep enough. Some recommended a copper shim. Then I found out that for this kind of mobile CPU there were few recommended coolers - Zalman 7000AlCu was among them (sunflower design similar to yours). I managed to obtain just that and yes, it works marvels. Now I had all the power saving features of an already no power consuming CPU installed and made it into a nice SFF XP machine. Very lovely, yet I still have to figure out what shall I use it for :D That's usually the biggest problem for me regarding any older hardware.
@@WaybackTECH And me mate, im running a socket 754 system with windows me and a 6800gt for retro gaming, its running bloody fantastic on a SSHD hybrid drive
I have the same motherboard and it's really nice! Only one thing that's annoying is that it's picky when it comes to RAM and some of my sticks refuse to work with it.
For around 3 years. Only used it for a couple of builds, though. The sticks that don't work are the fancy ones with good timings from from Geil and Kingston, though it also doesn't like the cheap 'ValueRAM' from Corsair.
Is that a Trinitron tube being used in that monitor? I know the main trait of the old curved Trinitron tubes was the fact that they were only curved horizontally and not vertically.
Might be, I haven't looked into that, It was around $1000 in 1998 so it's quite likely. I am use though to a monitor proudly stating Trinitron on it though when they use that tube.
I do think some monitors actually used Trinitron tubes, but didn't have any Trinitron markings. Older Apple all-in-one systems were like that. It could also be another -tron tube as well though. After Sony's patent on the design expired in 1996, companies like Mitsubishi started coming out with cloned designs such as the Diamondtron.
I looked around on google and it looks like this monitor uses Viewsonic's SonicTron tube. PT813 is the model - support.mdl.ru/PC_compl/firma/ViewSonic/prod/proprg.htm I need to probably recap this monitor soon because of how slow it is to stretch the picture out when it first comes up, it works fine after that but I'm pretty sure it's a sign of a cap or a few caps starting to charge slow from becoming drier with increased ESR and all that fun stuff.
Funnily enough, my motherboard allows me to run my 8320e at 800 MHz, so that feature is still present on newer hardware. It had the weird side-effect of making the OS and programs literally operate in slow motion though. Even the clock ran slower.
As far as I'm aware you're not supposed to you run these CPUs whatsoever without a heatsink even for testing but that's just how and I do things I suppose
They'll cut power if critical temp is reached :) It was much, much worse on the K7 series which would literally burn themself to death the second you removed the heat sink. Hence why the heatspreader was introduced. They were also susceptible to cracked dies due to the small surface area.
Quick post test it's ok, the heat spreader gives you a bit of time, though if the chip is a high TDP, like more than 65W, I wouldn't be testing without a heatsink :) If they reach burning temp within a few seconds, then there is something shorted in the cpu, as in the case of this Athlon 64 that came out hotter than hell fire itself.
As mentioned above both the 754 and 939 had thermal throttling was one of the first amd CPUs with it, if you tried the same with any K7 CPU it will die instantly
Found this old gem TomsHardware did. They did unfortunately skew benchmarks in favor of intel during that period but the heat problem of the K7 series is very much real (Not to mention their way of measuring temperature. Optical sensors and shiny surfaces does not go hand in hand) :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xf0VuRG7MN4.html
This ASRock board sure is awful similar to the Asus board in my Compaq Presario SR1010Z. Socket 754, two RAM slots, SATA, AGP...mine is a SiS 760 something chipset though.
@@tunkunrunk I didn't realize how expensive 754 CPU's are now, last time I looked you could still get them for relatively cheap. I've got a couple of the Venice core 3200+ chips that run at 2.2GHz. They make for a good Windows 98 / early XP machine. I've built 2 socket 754 rigs for Windows 98 and they both work great. Too bad prices are getting higher, I thought it was the last bastion of cheaper Windows 98 capable hardware.
the great capacitory rot of 2002-2006. nothing like dell, apple, and fic reporting millions of losses. A tech got a hold of a trade secret borked the formula and sold the formula to cap makers, needless to say a lot of P4 and AM2 boards suffer for rot :(
After the comment last night saying "Do I have to have RU-vid Red now to have audio" I thought I should just tease everyone and say "If you want audio, become a Patreon member! " :)
