CHEAP Carbon Shaft/ But What Does It Play Like? 

The main thing that is clear to me is that Karl shoots really well with any cue or shaft.

Would be interesting to see a part 2 video with a proper tip and deflection measurements.

We have to admit that Karl funny personality has played key role to revive the sport again

I bought the same shaft from AliExpress. Tip was crap so I changed it. Deflection wise it is not that good. But now I use it as my break shaft. Taom tip on it and it breaks perfect. I owned a Cinergy, Revo and now I went to Mezz Ignite. The cheap shaft has nothing to do with a high end shaft. But as a break shaft you do nothing wrong. Keep your diet running Karl! Greetz Thomas

First...thanks for this video....I have the same shaft and have a black ferule..as you said ..very dificult to aim and go near to the cue ball without touching it.. I take of the tip and put 3 white pads an a new tip...now I saw better when aiming....goid video 👍

Not bad Karl for that money , good idea for some house cue shaft for when friends call over

Thank you Karl for the demo and descriptions of the various feels on the pottings. Agree with you about the black ferrel!! This would be a nice option to provide for friends who stop by and wish to shoot with a carbon fiber shaft that I have adapted to one of my 2 piece cues.

I have several ok healing carbon shafts. You can get them customized many ways (white juma ferrule, various joint types, various tapers and lengths). M65 and M67 are incredible.

My friend bought a OK Healing jump cue from Temu and he likes it he just changed the original tip because he didn't like it. Another friend of mine's bought his new cue set from a Temu I believe or similar like that and it's good and it works. For beginners that want carbon I'd recommend

I bought mine from Aliexpress and I changed the tip to a kamui and it plays awesome.

Thanks for this video! I just bought three of these. A break shaft a jump shaft and a shooting shaft. And have been looking everywhere for a review on these

Pretty much all carbon shafts from the top manufacturers have a matte finish, it gets glossier/darker the more you use it.

Karl Boyes real secret to a successful gameplay finally revealed in this video. The real secret is in the carbon fibre Boss slides to help with stance and balance. 🤭 Loved the video 🕶️🙌

I actually also bought one from the same seller 2 days ago as back-up shaft. 😁 Instead of adding a white ferrule, i plan to change the tip to a light grey like Ultraskin soft tip

Just bought one for myself to test against my Cuetec. It'll probably go onto my Preoaidre butt to be used as a break cue. I'll post the results somewhere.

Had to buy one from your review. I had to shape the tip with a forever tool, you're spot on, it feels good when using a tiger glove. Not jacoby black or cynergy smooth but decent enough that it makes me wonder if I didn't get robbed on other carbon fiber purchases ???? The power is definitely different, am going to say its hit is sub par but what a great economy buy.

ok healing is a Chinese manufacturer that sells the unfinished tubes on their website. There's likely a few different people finishing and selling them with different ferrules and joints. This looks like a great shaft for any amateur cue makers that want carbon or don't want to turn their own shafts.

Really good video, thanks for the comparison

TIGER FORTIS CARBON SHAFT. Carl you really need to try this. I cant say enough how good this shaft is.

Bought one over a year ago of ebay. Bought it primarily to leave the cue the car from 10-95 deg F. Not a real LD cue, but just like any other shaft, it takes getting used to. Good video.

Can you please try Rhino? A lot of people have been saying good things about it but never a video review.

Think it would work for breaking if you changed the tip?

I got a predator revo with a black ferrule... I hated that feature to a point where I end up selling it and got one with a white ferrule. It really makes it difficult for me to play. Maybe that is why they come with a yellow (or orange) tip on it lol

I'm glad you enjoyed the 55 pound black shaft. :)

Question, did you get your Whyte carbon shaft brand new? or is this still the one you got from Fedor? Because typically all the carbon fiber shafts get glossier and darker as you play with it longer, a good example was FSR's What's in the Bag episode you did with him, his old shaft vs the new backup.

I prefer the black ferrule myself. the white is almost distracting, but it's all personal preference.

Have to get yourself some calipers pal, temu shaft looks way bigger than 12.4! Great review tho and good if you pool halls want more durable house sticks

KARL IS THE WHYTE CARBON SHAFT THE BEST ONE TO BUY? PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR OPINION........ ALSO WE NEED A WHAT'S IN THE BAG WITH FEDOR GORST

Two things I really like about my Revo: 1) I’m a klutz and drop my cue quite often and there is no penalty for this with a carbon fiber shaft, and 2) the shaft is slicker than a greased pig, no glove, powder, etc. required. I do wear a glove here in the Philippines due to the really high humidity during the rainy season, although I could just wipe my hands and the shaft more oftern.

You could try wet sanding it with a high grade sand paper...see if it will help

Please tell us about other shafts you have tested

I bought some off temu. Radial pin. $60. Plays pretty good

❤ id love to try the 13.9 for a break shaft or jump shaft!!!

It’s amazing how people are different. I myself much prefer the black ferrule. The white ferrule is distracting to me. My revo is black ferrule and when I order other CF I request a black ferrule I also like unshiny Matt finish so I’m going to order this lol 😅

Hi Karl, how are you?. I did think of buying that carbon shaft but problem is their joint diameter is 21.40mm and Predator says anything within 21.31 to 21.38mm so that the transition between the butt and the shaft is smooth. Your opinion/advise?. Thank you

Do another video and break the Temu shaft in half and show us what it is made of. Or cut it in half. I always wondered if they are really made out of carbon or some fake stuff.

Lmao this is going to get good

It needs to place the white ferral for it to make it easier for sighting.

The shiny or matte really has nothing to do with the smoothness at all. Besides, most carbon fiber shafts come with a matte finish and get a bit more shiny. The biggest scam in all of pool is the cost of shafts. It is ridiculous. So let's get this straight - Karl uses a shaft for an hour, which is different from his other shaft, and he can make a really good judgement on this shaft? Hmm. I don't think so. Play with it for a few days and get really used to it then come back and be honest. And the tip thing is a personal preference. This is not to say that this shaft is really good - but the FACT that people are paying very high prices for carbon fibers shafts and this relatively cheap shaft performed fairly well with a tip Karl didn't like proves my point.

Great video, keep them coming! This is my favourite channel for pool! Also, where is the Kik and Stik Tshirt from?? :)

A decent cue repair guy can make put something on the shaft and polish it up. And.. mow deflection shafts get most of their effects by having very low weight in the front of the shaft. For 55 pounds, that is a steal. The 13.9 mm would make a cheap break shaft.

I bought the break shaft then bought a complete cf cue from them. Idk what people are saying about defflection being bad. Only bad thing is the shooting cues tip and even then i been playing it just fine

What‘s the sandpaper block thing you used? Seems handy

use the outside cylinder surface of the tip to white it with white chalk. ore another soft white colour

Is there a link to the one you bought, as there are so many sellers, so many different knockoffs

After watching this a couple of times, I ordered one for myself. Hopefully I'd like it. For those who is looking for a white ferulled one, you can check eagle king.

nice video , there this one i been eyeing on Raven Carbon shaft like the raven logo they have it 199.00 dollar Ebay ,

Table top looks good. Why did you change it?

I’ve always wanted to buy one off temu to test out😂

I buy stuff from temu all the time. They have some decent stuff.

is it possible to change ferrule as well or only the tip?

I plan to buy also that carbon Shaft in temu

Also, do their Uniloc joints match predator’s QR Uniloc ?

What tool is he using to scuff up the tip?

Thanks for the video, I wish you did a deflection test like Drdavebilliards does on his channel with your good cue as a control.

Make a good break shaft?! You agree? I'd get a 12.9mm,swap the tip and ferrule be done with it. Maybe you can paint it at the joint and polish or burnish it to a shine? Worth a shot. And I'm glad you said that about black ferrules. That big company(Pre....tor) gives you custom shaft options now and a white ferrule is now a option all though kinda thin.

Please review the SMO when you can

I think it would be nice if you could put a different tip on it and maybe make another vid with a final opinion because we all know this tip is a bit os achilles heel

How much that carbon shaft cost? Where you bought it from? It might sounds ok.

More temu reviews please

i know some people with okhealing as break cues and they’re pretty solid for that

Any carbon shaft sanded to 3000 will be smooth and shine

Kind of wonder how the feel would be after running down the shaft with Isopropyl alcohol.

I bought one with 9.5mm tip and 5/8x16 thread, since I needed to have 1/2 snooker cue to fit with the pool cue into the same case. Also OKHealing brand. I agree the tip was awful, replaced it with something better and now it plays fine. Mine has white and black ferrule, so no issue with blending colors. I am also not a fan of ash cues, so this one for snooker seems way better. So almost all positives, but one significant drawback - it seems to lack "power", for a lack of better term. I feel like strong shots are dampened somehow, as compared to my regular cues, both snooker (ash) and pool (kielwood). This seems like a great shaft for beginners, since it's not likely to get damaged when banging it with balls during practice or if oyu leave it in a car trunk overnight in winter. Easier to clean as well I believe. Thanks for the video Karl!

You can put a ceramic coating on it. It will get rid of that sound and it will be smooth

I have a brandless chinese carbon shaft with a 13.5mm tip that i pair with my mezz powerbreak kai. It’s amazing for roughly 100 USD

So you play with whyte carbon shaft? The one with white coatibg or black one?

Same shaft like mine but i have 11.8mm

Should have put your usual tip on for the last third of the vid.

good to know. there must be a way to shine up that shaft

Well you gave me one, plays well but not used it as much as I wanted... And you weren't bad against Jayson in the Scottish tournament...

I'm going to paint my cue ferrules white!

I have been trying to figure out a similar shaft from aliexpress which costs around $100 and can be custome made to 12 or 12.2m. But have in complete confusion whether I should order a Pro tapper or a conical for my old fury rp2 radial joint.. and the 690, 765 different lengths are all confusing with lock joint size 🥲

What about if you take one of those silver markers and mark the ferrule?

Got an ok healing shaft 9mm to play English eight ball. Less deflection than my peradon one piece. Did change tip to a kamui medium snooker.

They also make it with white ferrule - just not available on temu.

Wow 55 vs 500! Yes please.

That sound can be removed with a polish machine. The black ferrule is OK. this video just proves that CB shafts are overpriced.

Carl I need it

Karl please keep videos like this coming , so informative cant get enough of them. There are so many different carbon fiber shafts on the market is definitely overwhelming. I play with a predator cue and have 2 revo shafts i play better with the 11.8 than i do with the 12.4 but i like the pro taper on the 12.4 for the feel much better. But there is just something about the feel of both the shafts that i just don't like , hard to explain. I recently bought my wife a whyte carbon fiber shaft for her McDermott cue . She loves it. Im glad they make the shaft with interchangeable joints i will be buying in a uni for my predator cue. Whyte fit feel and play is on an entirely higher level than revo. I would love to see a video on the tiger fortis carbon. lots of hype on this shaft. But with only the one video I've seen on this shaft, i cant trust the source. Thank you karl with all you do for this sport .

I think you can compare it better with JF shafts. Not with the SMO though.

A link to buy this shaft ?

I like your table, Carlboy.

What or you using to shape the tip , almost looks like like a sponge with sandpaper on it

you found the predator revo blanks on temu lmao.

Would gladly play with it... Are you donating it Karl 😁. It would represent you in Kenya

If ya only play bar tournaments or just pool hall don’t need a top brand but would recommend ya buy a top brand if ya a pro

Do a review of the Whyte Carbon.

Hit it with some 10k grit sand paper. It'll shine it up and smooth it out

Disclaimer if your a maple wood shaft player switching to carbon or even low deflection give it a week or so! You will immediately hate the way it makes you miss balls but its actually not the shaft its how you was aiming with wood that was the issue! Only think about the feel and consistency of hit not the all made or missed!!

Is the part of the shaft below the tip called a ferrule or vault plate? And does anyone know the difference?

Thats some great weed your smoking to lose yer cue like thaat haha 🤣

i use a rhino one its not to bad get what u pay for

- you can polish that shaft just like you would with a wooden. I did it. - the manufacturer has shafts with a white plate. the reseller you bought from just doesn't offer it. - I was able to buy this shaft in my country for 45 €. if you need a wider selection you have to go at the moment to aliexptess. Price will then be more like 80€ incl. shipping.

Lookin' a bit thinner there, karl!

Change the Tip bro!

dont understand the critic of the too smoothness of the cue gliding through the fingers. this is normally what you want, especially by pool players because they have no pause at the backswing. it gets stickier and shinier over time from natural hand oil transfer. add a little bit of white insulating tape on the black ferrule and your sighting critic is erased too.

Who’s got the link

Did u leave those sandals in saudi 😂😂

I have tried the same shaft, believe me the hall or home cues play the same. Do not waste your money and save them for any known cue brand.