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Check This, Before You Snap The Chain On New Shimano 1x12 SLX, XT Or XTR Drivetrain... 

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Please note - I swapped the double with single crankset. Here's the right order:
2:35 SGS cage + 10-51T AND GS cage + 10-45T
5:52 XTR 9120, XT 8120. SLX 7120 for DOUBLE crankset
7:19 SINGLE crankset
Another bike, that comes to me with wrong rear derailleur adjustment on the 1x12 drivetrain from Shimano.
Let mi guide you through a SIMPLE process of determining, which of the FOUR settings apply to your bike and fix it in 3 minutes...

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@cannondany
@cannondany 4 года назад
Please note - I swapped the double with single crankset. Here's the right order: 2:35 SGS cage + 10-51T AND GS cage + 10-45T 5:52 XTR 9120, XT 8120. SLX 7120 for DOUBLE crankset 7:19 SINGLE crankset
@josezamora4822
@josezamora4822 4 года назад
I am running 1x 12 10-51T but my derailleur (8100) was broken and Shimano replaced the part for an 8120, I was able to install it but I notice the shifting is not that quick and soft. I can see the 45T line instead of the 51T. Should I request the 8100 instead?
@mjojrjr6231
@mjojrjr6231 3 года назад
Will the xt m8000 have this same guide too?
@thecutrip
@thecutrip 2 месяца назад
Good vid, except for that error. I don't have the new kit, but was researching it the other day and read the Shimano literature about the B settings, so I picked your mistake and then came looking for a correction. It's interesting how the 2x mech has the extended measured distance for 1x set-up. This shows that the line is basically a minimum mark (to an extent.) The extra B gap for the 1x must be for cross-chained chainline angling through the pulleys? So if you want to crosschain with 2x (like say use all but the 45 when in the 36 ring) I wonder if it's better to increase that B gap a bit from the line, more like the 1x measurement. I can't see how that would have a bad effect on shifting when in the granny, especially when NOT cross-chaining the granny. When I get the cash I'm considering building a 2x12 and ditching the pointless 26/36 chainset for a custom crankset combo running a 14t step (with an appropriate FD from a different group) for 22 or 24 granny, with a 36 or 38, paired with the 10-45 on a 700/29 wheel to get awesome range for steep climbs and bikepacking climbs, while keeping a couple of high gears for winding it out along roads. Gravel riding could go 28/42. I know the 11-42 11 speed option is similar, but getting that ultra low climbing gear, combined with the great 12 spd gear steps and top end, is something I'd love to try, especially to show how it might actually work. So your in-depth look at such mechanics as this is very useful. Thanks.
@marnig9185
@marnig9185 28 дней назад
On cues u have marker for 51t and 48t❤
@emp29
@emp29 Год назад
Small tip: Whenever I turn the B-screw I pull the whole derailleur down first so it's not contacting the stop on the hanger. This prevents the screw from eating up the soft metal of the hanger. I've seen hangers eaten up to the point where the b-screw couldn't provide enough clearance even when fully screwed in because the hanger had a crater where the b-screw sat in.
@fe9523
@fe9523 2 месяца назад
You are the only RU-vidr who I have seen that shows exactly how it has to be adjusted. Thanks a lot 🎉
@lilzwini
@lilzwini 4 года назад
Came across this on accident and immediately realized that my derailleur wasn’t set up right. This fixed it right up!
@waynebusby6525
@waynebusby6525 4 года назад
I have never adjusted this limiting screw on my MTB before and after fitting my first new chain, it was not shifting correctly. I came across this video by accident, followed the very clear instructions and voila! Perfect shifting again! Thanks Sickbiker from Australia; you are truly 'sick' 👍
@jlt7438
@jlt7438 4 года назад
Best explanation of that derailer adjustment I have seen yet. You are very good at explaining difficult concepts. Thanks.
@vladimirzavyalov
@vladimirzavyalov 4 года назад
Thanks for your contribution! Had exactly this problem on a brand new bike with M8100-SGS. The only difference - my derailleur was too far from the sprocket instead. The result was messy and squeaky shifting between some gears. After the adjustment - perfectly smooth! 👍👍
@L4J20
@L4J20 3 года назад
Oh my gosh! I always had a slappy chain on the 10T cog. I went and checked for this mark...adjusted...and now it's much better. My mark was not outlined in white, it was etched into the metal. Thank you so much!
@vv1rd
@vv1rd 2 месяца назад
Glad I found this video. I have M5100 1x11 drivetrain with 11-51 cassette in my mtb and it has never shifted smoothly. After aligning it like this it's like butter now. Thank you!
@theselb7080
@theselb7080 4 года назад
I just bought a new bike with the SLX 12 speed and I thought the gears didn’t feel as good as I thought they should. I’ve always had SRAM X1 gears before and just thought Shimano wasn’t as crisp. After watching this video I went straight out to check it and wouldn’t you know it, the derailleur wasn’t adjusted right. It was way out by at least 5mm or more. Definitely runs smoother now. Thank you so much for posting this video.
@travisjgood02
@travisjgood02 3 года назад
Very good to know. Mine was out of adjustment from the shop. I had a couple of really nasty shifts and was wondering why. Now I know and now it’s fixed. Thanks!
@tyrendodgen2955
@tyrendodgen2955 3 года назад
Absolutely fantastic video! I had my chain too short after adjusting the B screw on my brand new 1x12 SLX with XT shifter, and my shifting was shocking. This video helps explain how to get it sooner smooth! Thanks a lot!
@norbertczompal9693
@norbertczompal9693 4 года назад
Dany, you are the king! I checked my XTR and have exactly the same issue with wrong setup like you had, thanks.
@TheIllaman
@TheIllaman 4 года назад
Thanks a lot! I just got a MTBwith a SLX groupset and the chain was skipping whenever on the 51T cog. After a quick set up using your instructions now it runs flawless! :)
@roadlesstraveledd
@roadlesstraveledd 2 года назад
Just got my bike with Deore M6100 12speed with long cage sgs and for the life of me couldn't figure out why it shifted so bad when I got it, this video saved the day! Deore derailleur has black line instead of white though. Thanks!
@Shralps
@Shralps 3 года назад
Thanks for the upload. Not matter why did my shifting just wasn't quite right. I needed about three turns of the screw to get it lined up and now its perfect!
@Bahecuk
@Bahecuk 3 года назад
Very useful video! Was riding for over a month with misaligned rear mech on my brand new bike, now fixed it! Ty!
@jeremydwyer2724
@jeremydwyer2724 3 года назад
Great video. Saved me from cutting chain too short after installing new SLX 10-51T cassette. Had excess slack on 10T but after watching video, could see that B-screw adjustment was way off from where it should be straight from vendor. I didn't have a white line or the two white arrows on my SLX SGS derailleur but when I looked closely, I could see the 51T marking with a faint line underneath. Using that, made adjustments per your instruction and now it shifts clean and no excess slack on 10T. Thanks.
@peterbaskind9872
@peterbaskind9872 4 года назад
As a novice mechanic (learning every day), that’s useful. I’m am about to do my first Di2 build. It’s making my head explode.
@GraydenMacLennan
@GraydenMacLennan 3 года назад
Awesome tip! This was the first time I had heard of this, and sure enough, my new bike was set up incorrectly!
@GneX4Ktb
@GneX4Ktb 7 месяцев назад
My b-screw was way out of line, adjusted to your recommendations now the shifting is crisp🤘🏻
@AdventureRich
@AdventureRich 14 дней назад
Thank you so so much for this! I just got my bike back from the mechanic after changing chain and cassette and my chain looked longer than it should have been (not enough tension on the smallest gear). I was getting the nastiest skip while powering through the smallest gear, so I started hunting around. I just sent this video to him telling him that I fixed it. Thanks again!!!
@theanimaster
@theanimaster 3 года назад
Wow... happened upon this by accident. Mine was off a bit. Holy crap. Of all the tutorials out there - this is the first I’ve seen on the topic!! Found this while looking for how to replace my chain (got a XMC DLC12) !!
@brotherluizinho2791
@brotherluizinho2791 4 года назад
Thanks!!! The best video of how adjust these new 12v shimano's, long teeth with the line, just perfect!
@centv8500
@centv8500 2 года назад
Thanks mate. We are the same. Im using my new lux trail few times until I saw my RD is higher than the biggest cog. Now looks more crisp shifting and will try on actual ride.
@Mike-vd2qt
@Mike-vd2qt 3 года назад
Thanks very much! Mine was off by 2mm which explains the chain hang-up problem I was having.
@peterpumpkineater2249
@peterpumpkineater2249 3 года назад
Thank you! My shifting is so much smoother now
@alltimebikeco.787
@alltimebikeco.787 2 года назад
From experimenting, I find that having the guide pulley higher than recommended gives smoother shifting and sometimes solves shift hesitation.
@rs-polepsn2843
@rs-polepsn2843 4 года назад
Thx for the Info! I have bought a new bike one month ago with the whole m9100 Groupset! I was really Not amused of the performance IT was rattling whole time, shifting perfomance was really miserable! Gears were jumping and IT was no fun! my xt Groupset of my old bike is even better in Performance than these xtr i thought! It Was really Frustrating! After i saw These video here i figured Out my screw was mich to tied screwed in! I turned the screw a few times Out lined IT Up with the marking and now it works like a sharme 😎 thank you for your Tip! It seems that many bike sellers send there bikes Not good prepared for ride or they even dont know about These marking line! It runs now perfectly 👍🏻
@bananasstuff3344
@bananasstuff3344 4 года назад
Of course they don't set it up if you have to do anything when you get a bike that's set it up.
@juancifuentes9408
@juancifuentes9408 3 года назад
Great video. I also have skipping issues on the highest gear (10T) i think that the right tension will also help so the chain has more teeth to grab onto. Thank you!
@lozovann
@lozovann Год назад
Thanks a bunch mate, you made my day! Finally I can adjust it for both high and low speeds!
@Icehso140
@Icehso140 2 года назад
Adjusting a SRAM with the white SRAM tool is very easy and an absolute must for smooth shifting. Wish Shimano would just come up with a similiar tool. Great video. Thanks.
@lakaldrak
@lakaldrak 2 года назад
Shimano did IT better. No need for a Tool👍
@MiserereMei
@MiserereMei 3 года назад
I got a new bike last week, with a 10-51 XT cassette and derailleur; I've been out on 3 rides with it. I just went to check and, just like you said, the teeth were aligned with the arrowheads, not with the line. Grrrrr.... Thanks for the video! Glad I caught this issue early on. BTW, the XT derailleur doesn't have highly visible white text, it's just moulded text on the metal cage. Using a torch/flashlight at an angle helps bring out the text.
@sjonniedegangster9939
@sjonniedegangster9939 3 года назад
thank you!!!
@chrispierdominici3891
@chrispierdominici3891 3 года назад
I think the white triangles are actually arrows meant to tell the user to use the line as the point of guidance for alignment (e.g. 'look at the line'), which might not be wholly intuitive to everyone, because they assume the arrows are the point to use for reference. This is a great video though now that I have a 1x12 XT drivetrain to replace the horrible and failed GX Eagle my Remedy came with. I'll have to check the alignment with this.
@djambush360
@djambush360 Год назад
2:01 'This one' is called the "b" screw and it's found on Shimano derailleurs since ever. The only 'new' thing is the marking .
@McLambo
@McLambo 23 дня назад
I've been using this guide for a couple of years to adjust the b-tension screw on my XT 12-speed. Recently I changed the chain after it reached 0,75% wear, only to notice that the b-tension was all out of whack. This was set up by the manufacturer after I received it back from maintenance where they changed casette and chain. Note that it was shifting perfectly. So after I put the new chain to lengh, making sure to put it on correctly (with the imprinted text to the outside), same for the quick-link I set up the b-tension to the indicated line (derailleur was much to high). Since then I cannot get it to shift good anymore; there are a couple of spots on the casette (from gear 5 to 6, most notable) that 1 out of 3 shifts, the shifting will go very clunky (also loud noise), and when pedalling it will feel like it's missing a buch of gears (pedals will fly forward). Now for the time being I have returned the b-tension screw somewhat to it's old position; shifting is better/quicker, but there are still some problem spots. Any clues before I bring it back to the bike shop? (I really like to do maintenance myself however)
@cs8sz
@cs8sz 4 года назад
Thanks for this, mine was miles out for some reason I didn't bother adjusting the height screw, not works much better!
@hendrasoe
@hendrasoe 3 года назад
Very useful information, thanks to share this ... I need to recheck my RD setting 👍
@johncraven3560
@johncraven3560 3 года назад
Wow! My new bike which i thought was shifting pretty smooth was 6mm off the line! Thx! Great vid!
@rogerserafin
@rogerserafin 3 года назад
Thank you for this. I just shared this with one of my FB groups I follow.
@peejosity0
@peejosity0 Год назад
Thank you for your video. The line for my 51t was about 2cm worse than yours was... very annoyed that my dealer did a bad job setting this up properly. Caused damage to the derailleur which I can't afford to replace :(
@HennieBours
@HennieBours Год назад
Minute 4'26". According Shimano Belgium they just point at the white line in order to show that you have to use it like you explain very well.
@viacheslavkrasin3119
@viacheslavkrasin3119 3 года назад
This info stated in the user manual (at least for my BR-7100 SLX 1x12) along as another specific - how the chain should go between upper and bottom pulley
@7devindevinjohnson
@7devindevinjohnson 3 года назад
Always best to shift early and often, if you can help it you should never shift under load/while sprinting. Even when you're shifting on the flats you should always let up pressure slightly on the pedals when the chain is in the actual shift. If you do this I guarantee your chains will last 3x longer. A lot of cassette/chain wear and breakage is caused by people shifting improperly.
@markhtxc6341
@markhtxc6341 3 года назад
True. I always use this technique when shifting the gears.
@GrzegorzGlider
@GrzegorzGlider 3 года назад
Many thanks for this information, just checked mine, and it was wrongly set since I got my bike from the dealer.
@shaymtbrider7244
@shaymtbrider7244 3 года назад
Thanks i bought new bike with slx n that setting was so off that my chain was getting losses thanks for video i adjust mine now
@markmarzan2743
@markmarzan2743 3 года назад
If you follow that settings it aslo affect the wrap of chain to smallest cogs it cause chain slip when you do hard sprinting in 11t cogs
@christianalboroto7574
@christianalboroto7574 3 года назад
My Deore m5100 has this marker. Will definitely check mine if it's aligned properly.
@Themilkmanskid.
@Themilkmanskid. 5 месяцев назад
Excellent demo and tutorial! I think my chain doesn't have enough links, because after all adjustments, the tension on mine is much tighter than this one on the lowest (smallest) gear. My chain is not seating properly on the gears of the cassette and sometimes skips.
@tornagawn
@tornagawn 3 года назад
Back in the day (1990’s) running good old triple chain sets, no guide line...the necessary setting was known as ‘the angle of dangle’ and it is known as the ‘b’ screw
@genecatcher1
@genecatcher1 Год назад
6:54 I have a Shimano XT M8100, long cage, and in my case this doesn't work. When I set it like this, the shifting becomes worse. When set it back on the mark the shifting is smoother.
@ThiagoFreitasBr
@ThiagoFreitasBr 4 года назад
Thanks a lot, you help me to adjust my gear, now is perfect! Lets Ride It!
@aggese
@aggese 3 года назад
I recently installed the 11 speed rd-M5100-SGS, and I looked everywhere for the line and the two triangles but could newer find it so had to just estimate whare they was supposed to be and did manage to get really good shifting in the end :-D
@icakicak1212
@icakicak1212 3 года назад
there is a line with my sgs M5100, its black.
@seidred
@seidred 3 года назад
I checked my deorem6100, same issue wrong setup. Thanks for this vid. 👍❤️
@itshark100
@itshark100 2 года назад
Nobody told me that, the difference between the line and the measurement!!!!!!!! Great😁
@Lestat1795
@Lestat1795 3 года назад
Chaintension is the key here. I had problems with my highest gear( 11teeth) slipping. The chain was way to loose. After correctly adjusting the b screw the chain was much tighter and the highest gear was not slipping anymore.
@petermican
@petermican 3 месяца назад
Excellent presentation, thank you for sharing 🙂
@overexposurevideo
@overexposurevideo 3 года назад
clear explanation thnx ! finally I understand it and it does help a lot in shifting performance
@marcozorreta_1
@marcozorreta_1 4 года назад
Hi Dani, very usefull videos. Thank you. On my shimano setup with XT 51s drivetrain, the theeth are 3-4 mm bellow the 51 mark on the derraileur but, it shifts fine. When I try to align, thats when it starts to make noises and doesn't shift well. The way it is currenlty setup, is fine, but obviously I want to make it as good as possible. Any ideas why it's worse when I align the teeth with the 51 mark? Many thanks
@vladimirsindelar4731
@vladimirsindelar4731 4 года назад
Hi. Thx for the video. Is it necessary to set the B-Tension in SAG like by SRAM? Thx!
@liveloveride1676
@liveloveride1676 3 года назад
Great video buddy, just one question I have 2 x12 SLX RD-M7120 10-45t so when making this adjustment do you have it in the biggest cog on the front or the smallest cog on the front
@huntrails7519
@huntrails7519 4 года назад
Great piece of information! Very useful!
@thescandiflick
@thescandiflick Год назад
very useful thank you , but what about 10-45 cassette with long cage ?
@U012
@U012 4 года назад
It's not that it comes misaligned. You just gotta set it up properly. The dealer instructions tell you exactly how to adjust it all. It's basic adjustments that you have to make for any bike when replacing parts.
@thegnarfox9487
@thegnarfox9487 Год назад
Can you help with chain tension? I think mine might be too short. Perhaps. I measured the chain when this measurement was incorrectly adjusted it just seems really tight in the highest 51 gear
@joshuaelliot2020
@joshuaelliot2020 4 года назад
I have a 12 speed xt mech with a 50t big ring. Do I adjust it slightly below the line, more where the arrows are?
@NonLegitNation2
@NonLegitNation2 Год назад
does this apply to the 11-speed SLX derailleur? I just installed an 11-seped SLX groupset (SLX 7100) 2 days ago
@D0WNT0WN
@D0WNT0WN 4 года назад
Extremely informative! Thanks!
@markgeorge6907
@markgeorge6907 4 года назад
Very good info bro. Keep up the good work.
@a8f235
@a8f235 4 месяца назад
I had to adjust it as well on a brand new bike, and sadly I found out way too late that my bike was delivered with a 2 link too short of a chain. I had not ridden trail bikes for years, and never 12x as well so even though I thought several times that there was too much tension in the drivetrain I thought maybe that was just how 12x was with XTR and so on. I know I should have just checked the length of my chain but I just did not consider a highend bike to be delivered with the wrong length of chain. Eventually I did check it, and so I got a new chain covered by the shop thankfully. I do often feel that something is off with my derailleur XTR 9120 because extra stress during a time with shorter chain, because it is a bit hard to adjust the gears. At this point I just feel the bikeshop may just say that a rock could have hit the derailleur and so on, and yes obviously I've straifed a rock here and there like you do while trail riding, but no big hits. I'm a bit frustrated about the whole thing because I want nothing to do with the bikeshop I bought my bike at because they've been very unprofessional since day one. Everything was fine until the money was transfered, and then all of a sudden i wasn't so interesting anymore. Pretty sad when you actually try to shop locally and it just did not matter at all.
@tzed2509
@tzed2509 11 месяцев назад
I'm running an e-Thirteen cassette with 50T big gear and I aligned it to that line. I assume the mech doesn't care how many teeth are on your big gear, we should just adjust the line to that biggest gear however many teeth it has?
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles 3 года назад
They are arrows without shafts. On my new bike the chain ring guide was on wrong. I wondered what the crappy noise was....
@LongPeter
@LongPeter 4 года назад
On mine the line is stamped into the metal, not screen printed. Harder to see but won't wear off, I guess. Mine arrived slightly high.
@harrywilliamlabadia7520
@harrywilliamlabadia7520 2 года назад
What about using a slx M7100 rd(sgs) and a M7100 10-45t, is there any problem that i can encounter with it? Thnxs.
@mr.rheynojib2537
@mr.rheynojib2537 3 года назад
Thanks a lot for this, this solve the back pedal issue on my deore 12 speed
@brandonchopsuey4513
@brandonchopsuey4513 4 года назад
Can i use the xt /slx m7100/m8100 RD in 11 speed sunrace 11-50t and 11 speed xt m8000 shifter with a single front 38t oval?
@EDMLuigiRS
@EDMLuigiRS 4 года назад
I Don't think that someone set it up wrong, I have the XTR9100 version and with time I have to check the derrailer because it moves a little bit off so you have to put it back on top of the Line.
@YoungDoug13
@YoungDoug13 3 года назад
Killer info. Thank you!!
@c.martin6326
@c.martin6326 4 года назад
what do you think of the new xt hubs? any good? coming off of an old 2014 x9 hub for comparison
@willon50
@willon50 Год назад
Hi, I upgraded from sram sx to shimano slx, didn’t change the cassette and sram is 11-50. This alignment works also for 50t instead of 51? I mean, should I align just the same as if it was 51t? Thanks.
@dimitribart5950
@dimitribart5950 4 года назад
High quality content!
@overland_adventure_nz
@overland_adventure_nz 3 года назад
Did you set this when you sag 1st and then adjust your derailleur? Only adjust once bike is saged.
@Mapantz1
@Mapantz1 Год назад
I have a 12 speed 10-52T custom cassette, which is Deore, SLX, XT and XTR compatible. I also have the SGS SLX derailleur, I presume it's pretty much the same process? Good video btw.
@MegumiFF7
@MegumiFF7 3 года назад
Does SLX M7100 works on 11s shifter and 52T and use the same alignment line?
@Airconcleaner
@Airconcleaner 2 года назад
thnx for this info sir, from Philippines
@vitorteodoro7026
@vitorteodoro7026 3 года назад
Thank you Buddy. Cheers
@tjrick
@tjrick Год назад
If I have smaller upper pulley wheel, should I still do 46mm?
@riekonura8554
@riekonura8554 3 года назад
hi can i ask what about the ax ltwoo 12speed 3x12? and can i make it 1x12?
@alekseipak
@alekseipak 2 года назад
я чуть не родил пока дождался нужной информации) но она была полезной так как недавно приобрёл xcaliber 9 10x51
@ryanalipin675
@ryanalipin675 4 года назад
hi sir, is it okay for drivetrain 11 speed m8100 cassette? 10-45T? thanks
@joemaseteacher
@joemaseteacher 2 месяца назад
Excellent presentation.
@markjosephporlaje6507
@markjosephporlaje6507 2 года назад
Can this technique apply to m5100 11 speed
@user-xy7le4nb1p
@user-xy7le4nb1p 4 года назад
I got my xt setted up on my bike on a bike shop, do u think bike shops do all that work for u already?
@MB-xx6xc
@MB-xx6xc 4 года назад
You have an Orbea!!!! Great bike!!!
@grapplerx173
@grapplerx173 2 года назад
Thank you, helped me out
@melejo1
@melejo1 4 года назад
my new 9100 XTR was a little off. Thank you
@AhmirTVVLOG
@AhmirTVVLOG 3 года назад
Very Nice Sir .. Thanks ur Sharing Videos Keep it up GODBLESS :)
@catg9196
@catg9196 4 года назад
Thanx for the video. I checked my sgs derailleur with the 51t is a little too far from the line. Maybe it’ll shift smoother 👍
@cannondany
@cannondany 4 года назад
Great. If the RD was to high, then it will feel less stiff on the lowest gears, if it was to low, it will shift quicker.
@seggdolphin7871
@seggdolphin7871 4 года назад
Still ride old 3x9 xtr 10 years old works like a Charme 👌✌️
@peglor
@peglor 4 года назад
Try 3x10 (If you can get the first 10 speed MTB derailleurs and shifters before they beefed up the return spring in the derailleur and made shifting a heavy, clunky misery (Like SRAM)). The shifting on 10 speed is noticeably quicker and cleaner than 9 speed. 12 speed claims to be a similar jump forward compared to 10 and 11 speed. Hope they've sorted out the shamefully heavy shifting.
@hubdeep9452
@hubdeep9452 4 года назад
Me too. In fact I went bike packing on a 1990 stump jumper and the old deore DX gears shift as well as any bike I've ever ridden.
@seggdolphin7871
@seggdolphin7871 4 года назад
@@peglor thx bro but i ride my bike only in the city don't need quickly gears change 😁😁
@paulevans1278
@paulevans1278 2 года назад
Thanks for another fantastic video. I have just checked this on my 12 speed slx. However, I can’t get my longest teeth to line up with the mark, even when I removed the bolt it was still a few millimetres out. Any ideas please? 🤔
@tff40
@tff40 2 года назад
Your chain may be too short, too much pull on the deraileur.
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