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@imjustvisiting5397
@imjustvisiting5397 11 месяцев назад
As an Indian who likes spicy food, I don't like it when people deride "white people's food." Yes, it's not for everyone's palate, but making fun of minimally seasoned food as "white people's food" is just as bad as people saying that curries smell bad. It may not be suited to your tastes and senses, but don't ridicule it.
@EmoDude523
@EmoDude523 11 месяцев назад
@@rachelforshee6014 White people is not used primarily to describe Europeans. Its to describe the Euro-Americans if you will. The “whites” since the Afro-American community is considered to be “blacks.” It was a term that didn’t really exist until the late 1600’s if I remember correctly.
@EmoDude523
@EmoDude523 11 месяцев назад
@@rachelforshee6014 It wasn’t to dispute that point. I can agree on that. What I wanted to clarify was that the use of “white people” doesn’t apply to those in the places you stated. Just Euro-Americans.
@encore3707
@encore3707 11 месяцев назад
@@rachelforshee6014 'I also don't understand what is "white people".' Why did you just watch the first 2 minutes of the video? The guy explains exactly what he means by 'white people,' and he does a pretty good job.
@MrArtVein
@MrArtVein 10 месяцев назад
Bro you smell bad cuz your house desensitized you. Let's not lie to ourselves. Don't make you a bad person just like I'm not gonna rob you but if someone did rob you they prolly gonna look like me. Serial kill you is a different story
@YouCallThataKnife253
@YouCallThataKnife253 10 месяцев назад
You don't eat at enough white people's houses then...
@abraxasjinx5207
@abraxasjinx5207 11 месяцев назад
In addition to properly using salt, I will add that acid is often missing in home cooking. Even if it's just a drop, a bit of citrus or vinegar can totally open up a dish. Salt, fat, sugar, and acid. That's the core of good food.
@dumb_as_rocks
@dumb_as_rocks 11 месяцев назад
⁠bro is calling msg by the brand name 🤣
@jasonlee148
@jasonlee148 11 месяцев назад
Are you white? This post alone proof that you don't even know what proper seasoning is. Chinese use garlic, ginger and spring onion as a bare minimum on top of salt for most dishes. Most heavy flavoured meat dishes has soy sauce undertone with a dozen other herbs as seasoning that makes KFC recipe look like its out of a child's cookbook. The judge of a good chef was mostly how well one can put as much Umami which the ultimate flavour into the dish, thousands years before MSG was even invented. Whereas Umami is practically none existent in most Western food even today due to the way ingredients are prepared. Asian food is simply superior on all fronts, that's there's barely any Michelin star restaurants in China, as their standards are simply too low when judging against Chinese food.
@Puerco-Potter
@Puerco-Potter 11 месяцев назад
@@dumb_as_rocks I am glad you found it funny, I will delete my comment now. You are a terrible person.
@diccmctwist
@diccmctwist 11 месяцев назад
@@dumb_as_rocks man im dead
@_Chessa_
@_Chessa_ 10 месяцев назад
MSG as well. I love MSG and I don’t know why it’s bad or considered unhealthy. It’s an amazing seasoning and umami flavoring and it’s freaking amazing! Same with the different tasting salts. Yummy
@Nyurite
@Nyurite 9 месяцев назад
There's also the fact that European cultures tend to incorporate more fermented foods such as a huge variety of cheeses, sausages, etc. in their cuisines, which adds more variation in flavors overall. There's other creative ways to add flavors than the use of herbs and spices.
@animesoul167
@animesoul167 9 месяцев назад
It's about preserving food really. Spices can help preserve food in warmer climates without a winter. And fermenting, smoking, and canning can help preserve foods in places with a winter where plants will stop growing for some time.
@white_mage
@white_mage 9 месяцев назад
you can also use wine to cook meat. i knew someone who cooked some meat (forgot) using a pan, a bit of oil, onion, red pepper, garlic, salt and wine. best meat i've ever had.
@dominicj7977
@dominicj7977 8 месяцев назад
sausages are garbage
@ckpalmeiras1318
@ckpalmeiras1318 5 месяцев назад
@@dominicj7977 Never come to Latin America with that attitude😂 We thank our Spanish, Portuguese and Italian ancestors for the gift of sausage!!
@eltiolavara9
@eltiolavara9 5 месяцев назад
@@dominicj7977 Leave.
@hexkobold9814
@hexkobold9814 9 месяцев назад
Some other points: 1. There are plenty of non-European cultures that use minimal or subtle seasoning. Japanese is good example - A lot of modern Japanese cuisine emphasizes freshness and uses subtle ingredients like soy sauce, mirin, sake, miso, spring onions, bonito flakes, shiitake mushrooms, perilla leaf, various seaweeds, citruses, etc. There are exceptions but no more or less than there are exceptions in European cuisines - Japan like their version of curry just like British like their version of curry; Japanese have wasabi just like British people have hot mustard and horseradish, Japanese have togarashi shichimi just like many Western kitchens stock Cayenne powder, etc. Other non-European cuisines to think about are traditional Mongolian food and other cuisines of traditionally northern, nomadic, pastoral, or subsistence-farming cultures such as indigenous peoples of North America and Siberia. 2. "Seasoned" is not a black-and-white concept, it's a spectrum. My Persian coworker raves about her native cuisine which uses spices like saffron, sumac, cardamom, cinnamon, cumin, coriander, turmeric, black lime, etc. One day she recommended her favorite Persian restaurant to a client originally from southern India who then told her he'd tried that restaurant before and found it the taste too mild for his taste. 3. There's a huge difference between traditional European cuisine made by old grandmothers from farming villages using fresh, locally-sourced ingredients, and the "white Midwestern homemaker" cuisine that was born from the 1940's onward with the advent of widespread home refrigeration and cookbooks of "convenience" teaching people shortcuts with canned, jarred, and shelf-stable ingredients and factory-farmed meat from a sterile supermarket.
@rarescevei8268
@rarescevei8268 4 месяца назад
3. Honestly doesnt apply în Eastern Europe
@LinNil-gz3je
@LinNil-gz3je 19 дней назад
dont forget mountaneous nomads dont use seasoning but only salt.
@MrSupahcreeper
@MrSupahcreeper 10 месяцев назад
Framing things as "white vs non-white" is such an American and ridiculous way of seeing the world...
@DocAcher
@DocAcher 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, it's really a lens you'll only see from Americans. I wish they'd just say "white Americans" instead of lumping us all together.
@ebinecksdee9872
@ebinecksdee9872 10 месяцев назад
It definitely happens everywhere buddy not just the US
@Jhakaro
@Jhakaro 10 месяцев назад
@@ebinecksdee9872 Italians and Spanish are white etc. So he's right. The white vs non-white framing is specifically just a US centric load of bollocks because they have a messed up view of race relations
@nurgle333
@nurgle333 10 месяцев назад
It's racist
@JuanDuarte-gx1oe
@JuanDuarte-gx1oe 10 месяцев назад
yep
@HeriEystberg
@HeriEystberg 11 месяцев назад
I come from a tiny Nordic country in the middle of nowhere where fish and sheep are abundant. My grandfather was and my father is a fisherman as well as rearing sheep and growing potatoes. As a kid I would get fresh fish, potatoes and some melted butter for dinner at least 3 times a week. I could see how some would call it bland food, but man, that fish just melted on your tongue.
@omnipotentbanana1576
@omnipotentbanana1576 10 месяцев назад
Er du fra færøerne?
@HeriEystberg
@HeriEystberg 10 месяцев назад
@@omnipotentbanana1576 bingo! Hehe, den var ikke svær at regne ud for en dansker, vel?
@_________-_______
@_________-_______ 10 месяцев назад
@@HeriEystberg Får, fisk och mitt ute i ingenstans, inte super svårt att gissa lol. Vackert land däremot, skulle älska att besöka det nån dag. Skål på dig!
@HeriEystberg
@HeriEystberg 10 месяцев назад
@@_________-_______ det är inte så långt att resa från Sverige, så det skulle jag absolut rekommendera att du gör. Den 29 juli är vår nationaldag vilket innebär att alla färöingar samlas i Torshavn den 27-29 juli och det är en jättefest! Skál!
@owenlj6261
@owenlj6261 10 месяцев назад
There's only one tiny Nordic country haha
@loganritten
@loganritten 9 месяцев назад
I always found this stereotype super funny. I'm from the southern united states, and we season our food REAL good. I even started a hot sauce company with my own recipes. When people say "white people don't season their food' they mean people from the northern united states, or people who never learned how to cook for themselves. I guarantee if you come to a BBQ with my family you will never ONCE think the food needs more flavor.
@rachelkrumpelman5131
@rachelkrumpelman5131 9 месяцев назад
Yep, Southeastern U.S. gal here! I was just saying the same. I season the heck out of my food. Salt brines for potatoes and meats. Also, I was just thinking about the Depression Era, and if you can't afford the absolute best ingredients, then spices are vital. However, I do remember my grandmother looking at me like I was insane when I'd scramble my eggs at 12 years old and throw a dash of garlic powder in them 😂 I also think that since she grew up through the Depression that spices were not on the menu because of the price. She tried them and loved them, though. This woman had 12 siblings and never had anything new. She never thought to even ask for anything. Rest in peace, my sweet Grandma Lucille. Thank you for letting me watch you make dinner every week day evening for your whole family as well as always making my favorites when I'd visit you ❤ (fried pork chops or chicken livers) yummmm
@PigeonLord
@PigeonLord 9 месяцев назад
I'm from the northeast in the states and overall we do season our food here, I think it's just that a lot of us grew up in families where our parents were too tired to cook and/or didn't know how to cook from scratch themselves. I know my mom doesn't, absolutely no offense to her, she definitely tries. But my mom also doesn't like spicy things, so she never really cooked spicy things. On the other hand my dad does like spicy things and he does know how to cook things without a recipe (and he's pretty good at it!) generally, my dad does use more /a larger variety of herbs and spices than my mom in cooking, be it because of experience or taste preferences. I also love spicy food, umami and savory are probably my favorite flavor profiles. Once I moved out on my own I was able to try new foods I otherwise didn't really get the chance to have at home because one way or another someone else wouldn't like it. I've found that I absolutely love coconut curries and stir-fry rice bowls (the latter of the two being my go-to lazy meal!) and yes, I am a white person. the whole "White people don't season their food" thing is just a meme though, I don't think many people genuinely take it seriously ☺
@krono5el
@krono5el 9 месяцев назад
@@rachelkrumpelman5131 yeah but all those seasonings are either Native to the Americas, Hindustan, or Asia. None of those traditional foods are from europeans that live in the Americas. the good food usually have Indigenous roots and connections, not european.
@yungrot7943
@yungrot7943 9 месяцев назад
There's plenty white folks in the south that don't season shit 😂😂. I'm not a fan of generalizing.
@Vicente_Moreno
@Vicente_Moreno 9 месяцев назад
​@krono5el dude, who cares. The ingredients are not copyrighted and most cuisines are not isolated anyways. Panko, which is used in a lot of Asian cuisines is bread cooked by electricity, and guess what? Wheat Bread is originally European and west Asian.
@savi1314
@savi1314 9 месяцев назад
A lot of people also form a border around “European” food that doesn’t exist in real life. Like Pirogi or Chebureki is not that much different than a Chinese dumpling and both are flavorful. Aioli is pretty much the same as Toum. Tzatziki is present in dishes all the way to Nepal just with different names and variations in aromatics. Look at how many names we have for Kofta (or köfte or kofte) or shakshuka (or chakchuka or shakshouka)
@snood4743
@snood4743 10 месяцев назад
The Great Depression and convenience culture are huge influences too. Poverty can knock pricy ingredients out of a generation’s nostalgic comfort foods. We also work ourselves to death over here and our mega corporations are glad to toss frozen fish sticks at our exhausted bodies.
@xxx_putin_has_a_flaccid_pe5374
@xxx_putin_has_a_flaccid_pe5374 10 месяцев назад
THIS. SO MUCH. I feel like other than a couple things such as how to cook eggs, a lot of why I can’t cook well is because of the food I was brought up with. A lot of Hamburger Helper, canned foods, frozen bagged whatever. Crock Pot recipes that didn’t call for spices, but for cans of French onion soup or whatever for flavor.
@ambatuBUHSURK
@ambatuBUHSURK 10 месяцев назад
people worked themselves to death in just about every third world country.
@BallstinkBaron
@BallstinkBaron 10 месяцев назад
@@ambatuBUHSURK the difference is we live in one of the richest and most powerful countries on the planet
@Araneus21
@Araneus21 10 месяцев назад
Actually, during hard times, people will seek food and spices in unconventional places, based on what's available, many things commonly used as food items were at some point, poor people's food, such as kasha. During WW2 people would use things like Rumex (which could literally be found on the side of the road). Urtica, Tilia flowers or dried forest mushrooms
@xxx_putin_has_a_flaccid_pe5374
@xxx_putin_has_a_flaccid_pe5374 10 месяцев назад
@@Araneus21 Then there’s modern poverty, though, where the majority of people don’t know how to forage like that at all. Haven’t got at least a couple generations in cities.
@thebegungler7333
@thebegungler7333 10 месяцев назад
Northern Europe is not a desolate wasteland without plants, we have many native spices/herbs but they are maybe milder or unfamiliar to other cultures
@EggBenis
@EggBenis 10 месяцев назад
Could you provide me with some examples? As a person from a very tropical area, I'm very interested in spices not from around here, mostly because they are "exotic" to me.
@thebegungler7333
@thebegungler7333 10 месяцев назад
@@EggBenis mustard, dill, juniper, sorrel, wild garlic & caraway are the ones i can think of right now
@EggBenis
@EggBenis 10 месяцев назад
@@thebegungler7333 oh cool, thank you for telling me!
@VVabsa
@VVabsa 10 месяцев назад
Celtic tribes were known by the Romans to use quite some cumin in their dishes and had salt mines.
@Sir_Opus
@Sir_Opus 10 месяцев назад
@@EggBenis I think good example would be the italian focaccia which uses rosemary for a really nice flavour. Oh and, of course, there's also pizza which gets most of its distinct taste from oregano, of course.
@Abcflc
@Abcflc 9 месяцев назад
I’m from Argentina and we tend to only salt and pepper beef because the meat, when properly cooked, is so flavourful that it doesn’t need anything else. But I love an Indian curry or a Mexican Birria. I think it’s a matter of balance: I wouldn’t want to eat “bland” food everyday but I wouldn’t want everything to be spicy.
@robzsarmy5471
@robzsarmy5471 9 месяцев назад
Argentina has incredible meat that it doesn't need seasoning thats why . You Argentines are also heavily influenced by Italy which are known to not over power seasoning but taste the actual flavours of the dishes.
@Knokkelman
@Knokkelman 8 месяцев назад
THIS! Most people I eat with put herb butter on beef or drown it in ketchup/barbecue sauce, and I'm like "Ehm, no, thank you, I actually want to taste the beef, it's fucking delicious on it's own!"
@zeroxwarrior
@zeroxwarrior 6 месяцев назад
Same, salt is all you need maybe a little pepper if you want some kick but the meat is the dish. I cringe when I see people get super well done steaks and lather A1 sauce all over it.
@Georgina-lv9bt
@Georgina-lv9bt 6 месяцев назад
as another argentinean, I can attest...meat should be seasoned with salt and only salt..its the only way to eat the meat.Occasionally a little chimichurri to dab on the meat is ok, but thats about it. It needs nothing else.
@EzeICE
@EzeICE 4 месяца назад
​@@zeroxwarriorYuck 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮
@KratomFlavoredAdidas
@KratomFlavoredAdidas 10 месяцев назад
Spices are not just used to COVER UP ROTTEN MEAT. They are natural preservatives, like hops. Using spices like garlic, ginger, chili/pepper and salt creates a harder environment for bacteria to live in. Mexicans and Indians etc do not just SEASON their food - they marinade it, they coat it in preservative spices before cooking.
@gw7911
@gw7911 9 месяцев назад
Yeah I found it odd that he included what he said but left this part out
@hayliedlr
@hayliedlr 9 месяцев назад
2:36 keep watching😊
@gw7911
@gw7911 9 месяцев назад
@@hayliedlr that’s the part we’re talking about
@retheisen
@retheisen 9 месяцев назад
Northern Europe had ice.
@williamhadley1580
@williamhadley1580 9 месяцев назад
Also pickling is a flavoring as well as a preservative. Pickle juice brined chicken is just epic.
@onewholovesvenison5335
@onewholovesvenison5335 11 месяцев назад
Onion and garlic powder are so useful in the kitchen, and the power of salt is underestimated so often.
@dmw282
@dmw282 10 месяцев назад
Yes
@skyhunter2816
@skyhunter2816 10 месяцев назад
Agreed.
@Sir_Opus
@Sir_Opus 10 месяцев назад
There's also all kinds of herbs which apparently aren't counted as seasoning.
@FASBLAQUE
@FASBLAQUE 10 месяцев назад
Yes, they are. Smoked paprika is too.
@lenaramoon4617
@lenaramoon4617 10 месяцев назад
i thought salt is the foundation of every flavor, because it brings out the molecules that enhance the natural taste of food. *shrug
@jonathanrealman8415
@jonathanrealman8415 10 месяцев назад
I am German and I season food all the time, we have a lot of native spices/herbs parsley, thyme, laurel, chives, black pepper, juniper berries, nutmeg, and caraway. All of those are, and have been used for ever. Also we use things like honey or barries to flavor meats and so on.
@jrknsOFF
@jrknsOFF 10 месяцев назад
I'm Russian and I really struggle to remember any time my mother, our family friends, my other relatives, or just people I know NOT seasoning their food, especially meats. Na ja es scheint, ihr und wir sind einfach nicht weiss oder was
@Sir_Opus
@Sir_Opus 10 месяцев назад
Video seems to stupidly gloss over the fact that all those things are also their own type of seasoning despite not being exotic spices. I guess it's to follow the narrative of "white people don't season their food", but it comes off as rather dumb.
@braddishv3146
@braddishv3146 10 месяцев назад
This creator is a racist POS.
@moosepatil5946
@moosepatil5946 10 месяцев назад
He didn't mention Germans though, so no need to go to bat for Germans. This isn't about you, Hidelburg.
@jonathanrealman8415
@jonathanrealman8415 10 месяцев назад
@@moosepatil5946 Germans are white and not Italian, and he actually does talk about those Americans of German heritage, and a lot of my extended family fits that description, they season the food the same way my family does.
@XlightninX
@XlightninX 7 месяцев назад
I think it also comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of what costitutes a spice, garlic and onion as you said add flavor yet some people would only acknowledge their powdered forms. I'd argue herbs are Europe's spice rack, but they're disregarded by some. Marjoram, basil, thyme, rosemary all seem like spices to me, they're only there for flavor. Also as others have mentioned it was often a matter of preservation, southern countries used spices to make food last while northern ones used the cold or fermentation. They used what they had.
@RichardRenes
@RichardRenes 9 месяцев назад
Er... in medieval Europe, the peasants would not eat potatoes (yet) as they are native to the Americas...
@jakemcnamee9417
@jakemcnamee9417 11 месяцев назад
The problem is how americans view spices. If it's exotic then it's a spice. Herbs like mint are a spice, rosemary, garlic and onion. Ir doesn't need to be a spicy chilly to be spicy.
@Dinofaustivoro
@Dinofaustivoro 10 месяцев назад
America is not a country tho
@FireDarkNinja
@FireDarkNinja 10 месяцев назад
@@Dinofaustivoro Well they're referring to people from the USA, the USA is a country colloquially referred to by many as America. If you want to say South Americans or people from Mexico or Canada would refer to themselves as Americans you'd be hard pressed to find any. Also if you think America is a continent it isn't, it's North and South America which aren't called America together, they're called The Americas.
@VynalDerp
@VynalDerp 10 месяцев назад
@@Dinofaustivoro damn my whole life has been a lie
@moosepatil5946
@moosepatil5946 10 месяцев назад
Mint is a Herb, not a spice. Spices are the nut, seed, bark etc of the plant. A Herb is the leafy bits like the stem and leaves. I can't think why you would say Mint is a spice like chilli without making sure you know what you are talking about first, but Be better, check your facts.
@tobigrantlbart
@tobigrantlbart 10 месяцев назад
​@@moosepatil5946"Spices can come from the following plant parts: roots, rhizomes, stems, leaves, bark, flowers, fruits, and seeds." This is taken from the website of US Department of Agriculture, specifically the page on what is a spice and what's an herb.
@loubloom1941
@loubloom1941 11 месяцев назад
But white people do (generally) season their food. The idea that they dont is mostly just a meme.
@negativeslim
@negativeslim 11 месяцев назад
its one big cope. I go to amish markets(german) all the time. Its filled with blks buying up all their food. They just want any reason they can to hate on whts.
@alexcallender
@alexcallender 11 месяцев назад
This, exactly. An utterly ridiculous forced meme that's infinitely less true than the idea that people from warmer climates doused their food in spices to mask spoilage (which is simply historical fact). When the video began he said "So, why don't white people season their food? The obvious answer is...", and when he didn't immediately follow that up with "they do", I knew I was in for some next-level nonsense, but it was even worse than I anticipated. That people are actually praising this midwit charlatan in the comments legitimately blows my mind. He's the definition of a pseud.
@jerryterwase9027
@jerryterwase9027 11 месяцев назад
Just like saying that white men can't jump.
@vitoriast2511
@vitoriast2511 11 месяцев назад
I am slavic and we do season our food
@Mmmfoodd
@Mmmfoodd 11 месяцев назад
Lmao not true, I know white people who think pepper is spicy
@Alexander99602
@Alexander99602 10 месяцев назад
As a Romanian, Balkans, the idea of "White people don't season their food" is kind of funny to me. In fries, for example, I usually just throw some salt and garlic, they taste absolutely phenomenal. The key is to just... experiment with different ingredients...? I literally tried omlette seasoned with curry powder one day, it's not bad actually. I'm basically semi-self taught in cooking (watched tutorials, then deviated a little), and while I don't work as a cook, I've never actually heard someone say my food is bland, quite the contrary in fact.
@balkanwitch5747
@balkanwitch5747 9 месяцев назад
Totally agree (also Romanian)
@drifterz9186
@drifterz9186 9 месяцев назад
Daca vrei sa incerci un blend jmk pt cartofi prajit baga oregano, sare, usturoi (pudra sau zdrobit fresh), chilli de vreun fel si niste cajun seasoning. Dar omleta cu curry powder n-am mai auzit lol. Oule mi se par mai sensibile cand vine vorba de spice-uri ultra-aromatice. Poti sa le strici la gust destul de usor, pt mine cel putin. Acolo prefer sa merg doar cu sare si piper.
@Snocone333
@Snocone333 7 месяцев назад
totally agree but my grandmother was hungarian-american so maybe i just picked up the inclination but also i agree, its an over simplification/generalization. Also married a Syrian so spice cabinet is packed
@peterkiedron8949
@peterkiedron8949 14 дней назад
Romanians are only partially white
@JeffreyMartin
@JeffreyMartin 3 месяца назад
your production, arrangement, narration, typography are really first-rate. thank you!
@euclois
@euclois 10 месяцев назад
as a mediterranean who likes to cook, i go by "less is more", a pinch of salt, a touch of olive oil, some rosemary or pennyroyal and a clove of garlic is enough to bring the flavor and essence of well cooked ingredients. I love to feel the natural flavors of fish, or meat, but I am also fortunate to have access to good produce and ingredients. when the food is over seasoned i feel like something is being covered up.
@Blissblizzard
@Blissblizzard 10 месяцев назад
Please don't use pennyroyal it is toxic! So bad for your liver, a slow poison on small doses fatal in large, use mint or spearmint instead
@NabiHamada
@NabiHamada 10 месяцев назад
I get your point but I want to point out it's something subjective and personal often no matter how poetic it is put as these parameters are set by the individual; someone who enjoys raw fish can easily say that those who cook it are only trying to hide the fact their fish isn't fresh and adding unnecessary ingredients like oil to enhance the taste when they are purer! I appreciate the simplicity but also think spices (not over using spices, one can say using too much garlic - like in the US - or too much salt..etc ) has their place too when used correctly, the truth some people don't know how to use spices.
@jorgeblanco1929
@jorgeblanco1929 10 месяцев назад
​@@NabiHamadaI can't imagine someone thinking raw fish is better but you do you
@Blissblizzard
@Blissblizzard 10 месяцев назад
@@jorgeblanco1929 Raw fish checked for worms straight off the hook, perhaps, after that, dry smoke, salt, lime it or cook it for sure! Any fruit especially apples, picked straight off a tree has sublime, subtle almost perfume like top notes in flavour, and apples are loudly crisp on biting, after a day, the flowery top notes have gone, a week, the crispness. Some heritage varieties after months will be softer but intensely sweet and more flavourful. Mass marketing cannot use any of this, it had become a privileged experience for those who have it, and a ugh! weird! concept for those who do not.
@Black.Spades
@Black.Spades 10 месяцев назад
@@jorgeblanco1929 Depends on fish species, the type of cut (body part) etc. Maybe not overall better, but sometimes there's cravings for grilled fish. Other times it's for fresh, raw slices.
@terdragontra8900
@terdragontra8900 Год назад
4:30 Northern europeans wouldnt have eaten potatoes in medieval times or earlier, its a new world crop!
@hallamhal
@hallamhal 10 месяцев назад
Came down to point this out!
@Indigolily80
@Indigolily80 9 месяцев назад
They did once they came to North America and became....white people. English,Welsh,Scottish, Irish people were the dominant ethnic groups for the first 200 years of America. Large scale immigration from other groups such as Germans, Italians,French ,Russians, etc. came mostly after 1840. They were not included in the "white" category. They were ethnic compared to the white Anglo Saxon Protestants. White people are the people who founded the 13 original colonies and enslaved Africans and called them black. When enslaved Africans and lowerclass whites tried to revolt, the rebellion was quelled. British American upperclass and landowners created the white category and subsequent laws to keep enslaved Africans and poor whites separated.
@meganesergerie5382
@meganesergerie5382 9 месяцев назад
@@Indigolily80your infos are not accurate. Jacques Cartier 1534, (French). New Amsterdam before the British immigration were Dutch, La Florida was first occupied by Spain, etc.
@cooldud7071
@cooldud7071 9 месяцев назад
@@Indigolily80 Actually, a sizeable portion of the original colonies were German, which is why it was proposed to Congress that federal laws should be printed in both English and German. France helped us fend off Britain. Both German and French people were considered white, and their ideas and culture heavily influenced American ideas (such as DEMOCRACY) and American culture as a whole. White people also didn't enslave any Africans. Africans enslaved each other, then sold their slaves to Whites and Jews. Jews played a prominent role in the slave trade, which was centered in St. Ellis Island. The only "white" people considered nonwhite were Italians, Slavs, Greeks, Hungarians, and the Irish.
@k.m.2625
@k.m.2625 9 месяцев назад
Lily white descendant of Northern Europeans here, who immigrated to Asia and loves to douse my food in chili powder, still getting laughed at by SE Asian friends with the "white people don't season their food joke." Funny thing: I live in Japan, where the culinary style has always favored very simple preparations, few ingredients, highlighting the natural flavors of the ingredients, with a focus on seasonal freshness over complex flavoring. And a great number of Japanese people do not prefer spicy food, many find overly spicy food distasteful. So, there are parallels echoed around the world and it's got nothing to do with ethnicity. In Japan, the simplicity of the cuisine evolved out of necessity, because the availability of local nutrition historically skewed heavily toward the salty/herby over the spicy, but even now, when there's a Korean barbecue or Indian curry place on every corner in Tokyo, Japanese people stick to their simple cuisine - and I'm glad, because the Japanese fetishism of fresh, seasonal ingredients has led to a subtlety of flavor that spices bowl right over. Punch me in the mouth with spices or give me the latest very gentle Japanese veggies, everything tastes good in the hands of a chef who really loves, respects, and understands the food.
@youtubename7819
@youtubename7819 9 месяцев назад
I have heard that Japan has no native edible vegetables. Literally no edible land vegetables made it into the traditional cuisine. Seaweed was the only traditional vegetable. (And maybe if you want to count rice as a vegetable.) all the vegetables in modern Japanese cuisine were introduced from elsewhere. That sounds unbelievable to me. Maybe you can comment.
@ckpalmeiras1318
@ckpalmeiras1318 5 месяцев назад
Most South American countries are like this. We have no spice or chilli in our cuisine (bar small very dry regions like north east Brasil) and would find the kind of hot spicy meals enjoyed in Mexico or the US or India or UK or Thailand as challenging.
@Sananjalka
@Sananjalka 4 месяца назад
@@youtubename7819 Speaking as a gardener here, not a cook, but just from my knowledge of plants, I can tell you that Japan does have native vegetables. Most species of bamboo grown there are introduced but a some are native and do produce edible shoots. Many species of garden plants that have been imported from Japan for ornamental use are in fact perfectly edible vegetables that are still used in cooking, I believe -- Hostas and Japanese knotweed, for example. Japan also has native species of Allium, onion, and to my knowledge they are eaten, either grown or foraged from the wild. Maybe it would be more accurate to say that no popular, economically significant cultivated vegetables have arisen from Japan. That I would more readily believe.
@kayakat1869
@kayakat1869 9 месяцев назад
I went to Sweden, Denmark, and Germany recently and I had some of the most delicious and flavorful dishes there with minimal spices added. I found that it was more about letting the ingredients do the talking instead of covering it them up. I also found that I never felt bloated or weighed down after eating over there.
@balkanwitch5747
@balkanwitch5747 9 месяцев назад
But those countries also use lots of salt, herbs, sauces, mayo etc to “cover up” the taste. No such thing as “covering up” tbh. If you ate “uncovered” meat it would be pretty disgusting
@CharlesD-qb9nm
@CharlesD-qb9nm 7 месяцев назад
@@balkanwitch5747 I've actually eaten meat without anything on it, and I mean nothing, and it is really great if you cook it just right (to be fair this was over an open fire and that makes a big difference)
@Aceliious
@Aceliious 6 месяцев назад
@@balkanwitch5747????? A grilled steak with only salt is one of the best foods wdym?????
@LilNika117
@LilNika117 6 месяцев назад
I'm seeing a trend of people who think that people just throw a bunch of spices on to 'cover up' the flavour of the food and I have to tell you if you did that in Jamaica you would be laughed at. That is not cooking. You just essentially described throwing a cup of salt on your chicken cause you heard salt enhances flavour.
@Pmooli
@Pmooli 6 месяцев назад
The ordinary street cook in india, peru, Lebanon will outdo the Michelin chefs of Europe. I tasted heaven in India.
@Anonymous-sb9rr
@Anonymous-sb9rr 10 месяцев назад
Traditional Dutch cuisine uses spices like nutmeg, cloves, cinnamon and cumin. But none of these are hot spices. It should also be noted that the Netherlands, like England, has historically been a spice trading nation, which is not the case for places like Germany, Scandinavia and north eastern Europe, so spices may be less common in those places.
@lordblazer
@lordblazer 10 месяцев назад
yea in Germany if you want spiced foods you gotta go to places that are owned by immigrants from other countries, also you gotta like ask for the authentic flavors like how they would make it for themselves and not for the German palate. I learned this when I use to live in Cologne..
@Black.Spades
@Black.Spades 10 месяцев назад
Eastern or N/S American spices were less common but not completely absent in North/Central/East Europe, and they still had enough local herbs. Including the more "spicy" horseradish, and in some regions mustard. Many people confuse spices with seasoning. While many dishes were not spicy, they were still very much seasoned.
@VVabsa
@VVabsa 10 месяцев назад
Nutmeg and cloves grow in Indonesia. I'd say Rosemary, thime or garden sorrel and chives are more Dutch than Nutmeg.
@Sir_Opus
@Sir_Opus 10 месяцев назад
I think the whole meme regarding the topic is that England, which famously colonized the entire world, doesn't use all those exotic spices in their national cuisine. I guess the explanation is that the working class (you know, most of the population) still wouldn't have been able to afford such spices.
@JacksonMcgarvey2665
@JacksonMcgarvey2665 10 месяцев назад
@@VVabsaIndonesia was a Dutch colony.
@Tinil0
@Tinil0 11 месяцев назад
I'm sure you realize this but to be clear, at 4:32 you are kinda putting potatoes in Europe before the Columbian exchange. They obviously weren't eating potatoes before potatoes came to Europe.
@julian281198
@julian281198 10 месяцев назад
There are even more things wrong, like the whole thing that medieval Europe hadn't spices, which is wrong. Exotic spices were relatively expensive but not unaffordable to the common people. Also, there were other things to flavour your food like homegrown herbs, roasted onions or Garum, which was quite popular in the medieval german area.
@Dinofaustivoro
@Dinofaustivoro 10 месяцев назад
"Exchange"
@Tinil0
@Tinil0 10 месяцев назад
@@Dinofaustivoro I mean, ignoring that whatever we think of it it IS known as the "Columbian Exchange", it was an exchange for sure. Not a great one, but the various American groups got lots of diseases and genocide in the exchange!
@michellejames2447
@michellejames2447 10 месяцев назад
@@julian281198 That's fascinating. Do you guys still use garum? I didn't realize it was still in use in the Middle Ages.
@julian281198
@julian281198 10 месяцев назад
@michellejames2447 it really depends how you define "garum". In the medival sense, no. But if you define garum as a unami favoured for cooking with a strong flavour, like soy souce would be, then yes. It's called "Maggie -Würze" which is basically a mix out of msg, salt and Lovage.
@mjt1517
@mjt1517 9 месяцев назад
We conquered the world to get herbs and spices. I think the title needs some work.
@karllogan8809
@karllogan8809 4 месяца назад
From what I gather, people in warmer climates season food to preserve it, in the main, to keep it from going bad, rather than to make rotten food palatable. My family grew up on a farm in southern Italy and they were always jarring food, immersing it in herbs, spices, salt and olive oil. The food wasn't rotten, they do this to keep it from going rotten, as well as add aroma, color, flavor and texture to food, and because it's tradition, a tradition they've kept alive even tho it's no longer necessary since they've urbanized.
@dinosaurpower3862
@dinosaurpower3862 10 месяцев назад
As Eastern European I just wanted to add that we add dill, garlic, laurel, parsley and peppers to food :0 As well as horseradish and mustard My great-grandpa would also snack on a whole chilly pepper every time he ate borscht
@hellajeff5613
@hellajeff5613 10 месяцев назад
But why don't you season your food with dish soap and bleach like in the vibrant culture of African Americans?
@chrisjoshua69420
@chrisjoshua69420 7 месяцев назад
eastern europeans are spicy white
@chip4039
@chip4039 7 месяцев назад
​@@chrisjoshua69420west Europe use those ingredients too
@Aceliious
@Aceliious 6 месяцев назад
@@chrisjoshua69420americans when they try to indentify different cultures of different white people:
@miloandash
@miloandash 6 месяцев назад
@@chrisjoshua69420 "spicy white" is not a real thing
@maximilianwood4848
@maximilianwood4848 11 месяцев назад
seasoning is not just spices you can season with other things
@ew1a100
@ew1a100 9 месяцев назад
Like wines, and other alcohols as well. Lemon zest is also not a spice as long as its fresh. So many things so little time on this planet.
@cooldud7071
@cooldud7071 9 месяцев назад
Spices are literally just dried herbs. Onion and garlic powder are spices. Do you know how many foods use onion or garlic powder as a seasoning?
@Marisa_arts
@Marisa_arts 9 месяцев назад
Yes! Thank you for finally making this video!
@tranger4579
@tranger4579 10 месяцев назад
I grew up in a Mexican household. We never had salt or pepper on the the table. My mother and grandmother used very little salt immensely small amounts. Garlic, onion and spices like oregano were what flavored the food. Now lard was used in abundance as well as flour and left over grease. My mother always told us meat, vegetables, etc... already contained a certain amount of salt and to have a salt shaker would compound the amount of salt added to the food. I hate going to Mexican restaurants the reason all I taste is salt in their food.
@ericktellez7632
@ericktellez7632 3 месяца назад
White washed
@JuanDuarte-gx1oe
@JuanDuarte-gx1oe 10 месяцев назад
I'm from Paraguay and our cuisine does not have strong seasonings as well , I can go even a step further saying that picking and preserved food are foreign concepts even for out modern days, the reason might be because our natives did not have harsh winters so food were fresh and abundant, some tribes had their fermented drink made out of mandioca roots but it was fast to make and it was not made with the purpose of preserving or storing food, but more for ritualistic purposes. Foreigners often think that all of south american food are all similar to mexican cuisine but that is totally not the case, we even consider mexican food way too spicy or way too seasoned compared to the paraguayan cuisine and that is not a bad thing. our most liked delicacy is called asado, and it is just sprinkling a bit of salt on big cuts of meat cooked on a fire, as simple as that.
@dollynina8992
@dollynina8992 9 месяцев назад
That's also the case for us in Bosnia and much of the Balkans. Our delicacies include slow roasted lamb in a dry-wood oven for several hours with only salt for seasoning. It comes out soo tender, the wood-smoke alone gives it flavour, and the layer of animal fat melts into the meat with the salt. We often dip bread into the melted fat afterwards because it's so delicious. Adding any more seasoning would just ruin the beauty of that process.
@stvrob6320
@stvrob6320 9 месяцев назад
@@dollynina8992 What if you dry-rub the meat with some tasty smoked paprika first?
@Professor_Sex
@Professor_Sex 9 месяцев назад
that might just be delicious@@stvrob6320
@darkstarr984
@darkstarr984 9 месяцев назад
Meat with just salt, cooked over fire is absolutely wonderful tasting. Different woods produce different flavors too because of compounds that get into the smoke.
@Jumpoable
@Jumpoable 9 месяцев назад
Very interesting...
@dbadagna
@dbadagna 10 месяцев назад
To add saltiness, but also umami, to your food (and not just Asian food), it's possible to use fermented condiments like soy sauce or miso. Also, numerous cultures around the world swear by an MSG-laden bottled brown sauce called Maggi (although it only originated in the 1880s in Switzerland).
@maxjk1143
@maxjk1143 10 месяцев назад
the sauce is called würze, the company is maggi
@MrKrtek00
@MrKrtek00 10 месяцев назад
Stocks and other reductions has similar effect
@MyCrafcik
@MyCrafcik 10 месяцев назад
Too bad it's Maggi now
@cryptohound
@cryptohound 10 месяцев назад
❤️ Maggi is bomb
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 10 месяцев назад
@@maxjk1143 True, but no one refers to it as that, probably in part also because Würze is way too generic to be understood what is meant.
@glorbojibbins2485
@glorbojibbins2485 9 месяцев назад
"After brutality colonizing the world" Lol got'em
@sloaiza81
@sloaiza81 7 месяцев назад
So happy for the creator of this channel. Keep doing your thing!
@NabiHamada
@NabiHamada 10 месяцев назад
I think "bland" usually has a context and might not only describe the lack of spices but the overall lack of flavour which points to technique. overly boiled vegetables can taste quite bland since the prolonged cooking destroy the integrity of these veggies, in contrast a cheese toasties isn't bland (a lot of salt and dairy fats). The description in the video isn't factual medieval Scandinavia had somethings that grew in it and was used as seasoning such as horseradish, dill, mustard seeds (still widely used in Scandinavian cuisine(s). Spices were so valued that the Dutch waged wars to acquire them!
@leroyjenkins1249
@leroyjenkins1249 9 месяцев назад
^Yeah this. From what I heard, the joke around Asians following a "white people lunch trend" it's about mocking truly bland concepts, like lunchables. I'm German and had once an exchange program to England, when I learned what people meant with "bland white people food". To cheris my Italian roommate, our host mother wanted to make "Spaghetti Carbonara" -which was bland spaghetti, in butter, with raw broccoli. Another time I was half an avocado and a spoon as "lunch"
@aphr0d
@aphr0d Год назад
I just discovered your channel from the Arthur video and your videos have made me feel something that RU-vid videos have not made me feel for a long time. Your content is incredibly soothing and there I say nourishing. Thanks so much for posting these.
@HorsesOnYT
@HorsesOnYT Год назад
I’m glad you’re enjoying them - thanks for watching 🥰 -Michael
@aphr0d
@aphr0d Год назад
⁠@@HorsesOnYTI just saw your subscriber count and I’m blown away! The quality in your videos and the dedication you put into it-I thought it was a lot higher! I wish you great success in your RU-vid journey. Your channel is really an inspiration and made me full of warm feelings. You’re awesome, Michael!
@low-budgefudge2164
@low-budgefudge2164 11 месяцев назад
samething here!!!
@pickleBOB405
@pickleBOB405 11 месяцев назад
me too! these videos are great! what an underrated youtuber, i hope he gets more recognition!
@LSSJTHOR
@LSSJTHOR 11 месяцев назад
He should do the Arthur episode about alzheimers. His grandpa has it. My one side of the family has it. That terrifies me.
@The2wanderers
@The2wanderers 9 месяцев назад
A lot of this seems like arbitrary decisions about spice vs not spice. Salt and Pepper? defined as not-spice, even though pepper, at least, is clearly a spice. Garlic, onions and other herbs? Not-spice. So the short answer is that white people don't spice their food for the same reason white people's dialect is considered "not an accent." We've defined white-people cuisine as the default, so anyone using different ingredients to flavour their cuisine is adding spice.
@Musinnna
@Musinnna 10 месяцев назад
I love this videos feels like chatting with friends over dinner ❤
@daviddestin1990
@daviddestin1990 10 месяцев назад
As a retired line cook of 20 yrs, I find this theory interesting. My background is mostly Italian and Creole. That said, sometimes I like to go "purist", and focus on the flavor of the ingredients. Anyway, there is a reason why the ancient Romans used salt as currency.
@nathanirby4273
@nathanirby4273 9 месяцев назад
See a lot of people make the mistake of calling everything that comes out of Louisiana Cajun, when in fact a lot of the more heavily spiced dishes the state is famous for are more Creole...poor Acadians out in the swamp or out in the marshlands and canefields normally couldn't access or afford such luxuries and authentic Cajun food traditionally is more basic, not unlike the provincial French cuisine it is based off of. Look at cajun boudin, normally just salt ,pepper, green onions, and sometimes cayenne..and compare that with a Creole Andouille sausage for instance. Or cajun Couchon De lait...just a pig and fire, compared with a Creole tasso ham
@icankillbugs
@icankillbugs 9 месяцев назад
"retired line cook" you worked at Applebee's for minimum wage before finding a job cleaning offices brahbrah stop trying to sound cool
@cooldud7071
@cooldud7071 9 месяцев назад
@@icankillbugs Worked at Applebee's for 20 years? What compelled you to be so rude for no reason?
@heistingcrusader_ad3223
@heistingcrusader_ad3223 9 месяцев назад
​@@icankillbugsbeing a jackass isn't gonna get you friends
@icankillbugs
@icankillbugs 9 месяцев назад
@@heistingcrusader_ad3223 Thank goodness, I should try to be one more often
@kookoolatjes2987
@kookoolatjes2987 10 месяцев назад
as a foodie, my fav part of travelling is trying the local cuisine. I'm from south east Asia, where spices are abundant, but travelling and living for sometime in europe and other parts of asia, I really like the minimal use of spices. I don't think it's bland, it's just different. and every country has a story told through it's kitchen. travelling from one place to another and noticing the change in people's palate, their eating habit, and the way they present their food is just so amazing to see. hopefully one day I can travel some more.
@lonelyb9661
@lonelyb9661 9 месяцев назад
People who say that underestimate the taste of meat. They also underutilize cooking with butter.
@bobdobsin6216
@bobdobsin6216 11 месяцев назад
I watch a lot of historical cooking and I find it amazing how much more complex (savory, sweet, and aromatic) food was in the middle ages. On the whole I would say it's better, and it's a shame that we don't use nearly as many herbs and spices as we did then. Nouvelle cuisine certainly has a place - but it has to be as you said: it must use fresh, premium ingredients. It has to be *good* beef, like prime or select, and for chicken it should probably be thighs rather than the easily dried and lean breasts. In my amateur chef opinion, a lot of the accusations of blandness come from the fact that yes, people don't use salt, but they don't work with materials that have much flavor in their own right. At least from the reference frame of pre-modern and early-modern cooking.
@aseheavyindustries798
@aseheavyindustries798 11 месяцев назад
its crazy that people discovered hotdogs and jello in the 1950s and it damaged our recipes for decades
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin 10 месяцев назад
It's also people's laziness and resulting thoughtlessness. You could tell millions of people "why don't you do this and that with food" and they'd either go "Wow, you are right." or just "Nah.". Premade meals with herbs in the ingredients list tend to be for subtle taste notion and to satisfy the recipe template, but it's not exactly healthy. What I do instead is simply eat closer to what used to be. I have a glass of freeze-dried Provence herb mix and I add a generous amount of them to whatever meal they fit, and often after heating so that I don't destroy anything valuable. (I do the same with water-activated garlic powder.)
@thehound9638
@thehound9638 10 месяцев назад
We did a lot of things in the middle ages which we don't do now. The design of their books and the art and effort they put into them was absolutely incredible and beautiful. People who mock the medieval period and consider them backwards have no idea what they're talking. Take a look at a Cathedral in Europe for example.
@jeanpierrepolnareff9919
@jeanpierrepolnareff9919 10 месяцев назад
what are u talking about bruv xddd. Cooking has never been more complex than today. That 90 percent of the population doest want or cant cook doesnt mean there arent chefs out there pushing the boundaries.
@cooldud7071
@cooldud7071 9 месяцев назад
Depending on which historian you believe, peasants had over a month to half the year off of work. Logically, this means they'd have a lot of time to dick around and make good food. The industrial era clamped down on free-time, now you had to work absurd hours in jobs that could easily maim or kill you just to continue living. These traditions endured, now people who are uneducated on cooking (aka the vast majority of the population) are content to eat food someone else made. Further, these peasants had access to a wide range of unique plants, as well as their own gardens. Due to the nature of industrial cities, unique weeds and plants are scarce in densely populated areas, unless you choose to grow it yourself from seed(ling)s bought either locally or online.
@t0masibrudoctor534
@t0masibrudoctor534 11 месяцев назад
I felt like Scandinavians at least didn't season food because they didn't have any. Literally nothing but mushrooms grow there. Salty fish and pickled fish with dill was the most "seasoned" foods I ate.
@joakimedvardsson2294
@joakimedvardsson2294 10 месяцев назад
We got the best blueberrys though
@t0masibrudoctor534
@t0masibrudoctor534 10 месяцев назад
@@joakimedvardsson2294 and the rest. Definitely all the great berries... I have given myself a mild strawberry allergy from pigging out on them.
@username12120
@username12120 10 месяцев назад
@@t0masibrudoctor534 That's a thing that can happen? Fuck. I gorge on them every summer out of the garden.
@jacksonconstable8331
@jacksonconstable8331 10 месяцев назад
@@username12120it can. Had a mate become lactose intolerant because he use to consume insane amounts of dairy.
@t0masibrudoctor534
@t0masibrudoctor534 10 месяцев назад
@jacksonconstable8331 my friend is a fishmonger and ate prawns so often he did the same. Very sad such cases.
@dexenationgracey1979
@dexenationgracey1979 10 месяцев назад
I always interpreted white people food being "bland" is mostly an American thing. No one who knows a thing or two about cooking is going to say that Italians, French people or Greeks can't cook.
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 9 месяцев назад
How is the theory that spices were used to cover the taste of spoiled meat racist? Pretty sure Europeans and early Americans had to flavor up their own rancid/stale foods.
@AlpacaEmperor
@AlpacaEmperor 9 месяцев назад
Right?
@parkmallbaby
@parkmallbaby 4 месяца назад
My nose twitched when I heard that? How does that even constitute as racist? I'm Filipino and if you leave food out in hot climate they do spoil fast so people put seasoning that act as preservative. The generalization that white people don't season their food is more racist and btw that's not how they say it. The accusation is "White people food is bland."
@ianredfield4306
@ianredfield4306 11 месяцев назад
The spoiled meat theory has a little more truth to it, and I wouldn’t call it racist. A lot of studies show strong anti microbial and anti fungal properties to common spices along the equator, even capsaicin (the spicy compound in peppers) is a registered insecticide. There is no doubt that spices help in keeping meat fresher for longer. That said it wouldn’t have made spoiled meat edible again, so you ain’t totally wrong :) Great vid tho, keep it up
@colbyzur4642
@colbyzur4642 11 месяцев назад
My understanding is that salt and a few other spices would be used to preserve meat longer, because in a region like Israel they can’t exactly freeze meat, they can instead cover the meat in salt and spices that preserve the meat. Also I would not call it racist either because it’s based on geography not race, that bit made me roll my eyes
@alexcallender
@alexcallender 11 месяцев назад
Indeed. Adam Ragusea covered this topic on his channel as well and he had a much better answer, and actually provided sources proving that spices were indeed historically used in warmer climates to mask spoilage. It was just a fact of life prior to refrigeration, and while it wasn't exclusive to warmer climates (Europeans did it too), it was obviously more common in those regions due to the climate + more abundant spices.
@u-neekusername4430
@u-neekusername4430 11 месяцев назад
I think it's more like the concept is used by racists to support their racism, I've heard it (much to my horror). e.g. "I don't eat Indian food, they use all those spices so they can serve you rotten food." Meaning ALL restaurants ALL the time as if that could actually happen & the restaurants stay open. It's not logical, just racist, so when he mentioned racist, I thought of that & went "yep".
@annafirnen4815
@annafirnen4815 11 месяцев назад
Salting and also smoking meat was known for a looooong time, in Europe too. How do you think people could survive a cold winter in the North? They had to make some supplies. Also pickling and fermenting food came around for the same reasons.
@EremEdition
@EremEdition 11 месяцев назад
​@@colbyzur4642meat spoils with moisture. so packaged grocery store meat is wrapped up in moisture. salt and seasoning dries it out, dehydrates it and cooks it. you can leave meat outside as long as other things don't come for it you can leave it out for many days to cook in the sun
@ichaukan
@ichaukan 10 месяцев назад
Cooking is alchemy. It's raw ingredients meeting refined ingredients in various states of entropy and cooked.
@billyte1265
@billyte1265 9 месяцев назад
I'm sorry, calling the spoilt food theory "racist" and "condescending" is beyond stupid. There is no racism, or even condescention as part of that theory. Also dismissing it by saying "rotton meat makes you die" is completely disingenuous and doesn't represent what the theory is. Food doesn't spoil all at once, and there are many levels of food spoilage. Sometimes its healthy enough to eat food that isn't at its maximum freshness. Especially when you're very hungry and the calories are more important than the bad stuff. And it doesn't necessarily mean meat. It could be any food, vegetables included. Even today, flavors are used to cover up something that would otherwise taste bad. The classic cocktail Old Fasioned was originally created to cover up the taste of bad whiskey for example. This shouldn't be surprising. When people have otherwise good food or drink that has a flaw, doing something to patch the flaw is completely rational and doesn't result in your entire society dying. So if you think the food spoilage theory of spices is indisputably debunked because racism, you might want to check your biases. Obviously people can only use the ingredients found around them. However, the theory is not why people in the east use spices at all, but why they use so much and what they were used for. These theories are not mutually exclusive. You also realize that wealth and privilege mean different things right? Privilege isn't required to get a good cut of meat. Wealth is. I like your video style, but I'm really sick of you mixing in modern social justice warrior speak into these videos about history. It really is off putting. Please try to choose your topics where you insert your politics and rhetoric. I don't know about you, but I didn't brutally colonize anyone. And randomly inserting the idea that white people should just shut the f**k up is incredibly insulting. I'm not insulted by people saying white people food is bland. Hell, I agree in a lot of cases. I certainly don't make bland food. And even if someone thought I did, I don't care, I like my food. But I do care when people like you tell me that my ancestors did some shit and I should accept negative consequences because of it. F**k that noise
@mivescensa4303
@mivescensa4303 Год назад
oh my god?? i watched this expecting a million subs or something.. you are so talented man. im sharing this with everyone i can
@HorsesOnYT
@HorsesOnYT Год назад
🥰 ty! -Michael
@mapleandsteel
@mapleandsteel 10 месяцев назад
When I lived in the US, I developed techniques of my own that kind of sublates from these two ways of thinking - I was able to keep the taste of the meat in front, with the spices acting as an accompaniment.
@handsomebear.
@handsomebear. 9 месяцев назад
Poor people didn't eat "rotten food" they ate less savory food and food that had been stored in less than ideal ways, making it less palatable(or just less tasteful). Spices help with this. This isn't "racist" or "condescending". It's purely logical and it's still a thing. This kind of virtue signalling is really pathetic and shows how incredibly spoiled the creator of this video is lmao.
@rhyancudor
@rhyancudor 9 месяцев назад
the video was starting to sound a bit too forgiving to the whites (hellspawn), so i'm glad he managed to squeeze in a shallow jab at whites with the 'Racism' stick
@Decipherization
@Decipherization 2 месяца назад
LOL I was thinking the same thing. Went to such lengths to say they’d DIE if they ate spoiled food, meanwhile I eat expired food that smells weird all the time. And I can buy more, food was a lot more scarce back in the day. Obvs ppl ate stuff that was a little bit rancid and were fine, and obvs spices would help make that not taste like shit… guy just shits on and dismisses a perfectly valid theory. Racist lol what a joke of an exaggeration, video title is more racist than that theory
@randomguy7174
@randomguy7174 2 месяца назад
1) Spices weren't used on spoiled meat, but rather just to make food last longer, because of their antibacterial and antifungal properties, just like other food preservation methods that were popular in Europe such as salting, pickling and fermenting. The only difference is that spices were much more readily available, while salt was quite difficult to produce in the past, and pickled and fermented meat and fish are mostly quite gross (looking at you, surströmming) 2) Scandinavia and Eastern Europe both have native herbs (yes, those count as spices) that are used in their cuisine 3) Scandinavia and Eastern Europe have historically had strong trade relations with East Asia as well as Arabia
@alienonion4636
@alienonion4636 10 месяцев назад
I used to help out a bit at a soup kitchen. It was summer and somewhat rural so there was an abundance of fresh garden food. People kept passing up chunked tomatoes. But they were just tomatoes. I took a tray plastic but pretty and made rows of sliced tomatoes that I sprinkled some salt on along with some sugar. Not much of each. I found a bottle of white wine vinegar so added a slight sprinkle of that. Oh, no one will eat that now I was told. Gone and everyone asking for more. Another day we had cucumbers and tomatoes and someone showed me where some herbs were growing so on top of my sliced veggies I put a light sprinkling of Spike and topped with fresh chopped parsley one day and cilantro another adding some crushed coriander as well. Every time gone gone gone. Sometimes I had green onion and put thinly sliced green tops on the tomatoes keeping the trimmed green onions in a glass of ice water with salt shaker next to it. The cook only got paid for 2 hours of work so just didn't have the time but I did and enjoyed it. It's true... I'm white and don't season much relying mostly on salt but I've had dinner guests who ask what seasoning I use to make the food taste so good. Hmmm, salt. But simple foods can taste amazing with a little salt and the love we add when cooking.😁
@cdogthehedgehog6923
@cdogthehedgehog6923 10 месяцев назад
And then everyone clapped for my expert tomato skills.
@j3ffn4v4rr0
@j3ffn4v4rr0 9 месяцев назад
Those are some great but simple ideas you did! I enjoy spicy food like Mexican or curry, but also really like basic one-ingredient dishes...but the ingredients need to be super fresh and good quality! Last night, I made a pork chop with quinoa and some steamed broccoli. A little salt and really good olive oil on the broccoli, and I poured the pork drippings on the quinoa...but other than that, one ingredient each. It was amazing and took 15 minutes!
@dimplesd8931
@dimplesd8931 10 месяцев назад
I’m southern African American married to a euro-Australian and this is the fight we have whenever I cook. He says don’t use too much salt and I don’t think I am. I’m salting the food the way I was taught. When my husband makes Asian food, which is common in Oz, he puts tons of spices and sauces that are loaded with salt in the food. He doesn’t see that as salty because he’s use to the flavor. Ironically if we eat southern food or Mexican in a restaurant the amount of salt in the food isn’t a problem for him. 🤷🏾‍♀️
@gircakes2
@gircakes2 5 месяцев назад
Maybe you're a bad cook?
@fireblast133
@fireblast133 9 месяцев назад
huh, what i had heard about the cultures closer to the equator had been that they found that foods, meats especially, preserved with spices tended to stay safe longer and not rot as quickly, therefore the heavier use of spices evolved from food preservation techniques, not trying to cover up spoiled meat
@nadiabairamis3854
@nadiabairamis3854 9 месяцев назад
White is a veeeery broad term. I am Greek and our food has heavily influenced and been influenced by the Persian and Ottoman empires. We might not use chilli traditionally, but we use a lot of other spices and herbs. That said, I am only 1min into the video, and may have jumped on this bandwagon a bit prematurely, lets see!
@erikagehm2805
@erikagehm2805 11 месяцев назад
Those in Northern Europe had access to rosemary, savory, salt, etc. Using just a little salt goes a long way.
@dorkporkknobslob9918
@dorkporkknobslob9918 10 месяцев назад
I don’t really agree with disregarding the first theory. It’s still a fair possibility like how people take spices to get over illness or we use acid with raw seafood.
@dawert2667
@dawert2667 10 месяцев назад
People probably have used spices to prevent spoiling of meat; the point was that it’s long been espoused that they used spices to cover up already rotten food, a racist sentiment that implicates that non-white people are willing to eat rotten food (which would make them closer to animals than human). You can’t safely eat rotten food even if it’s spiced; even if it’s cooked or doused in alcohol, it’s always unsafe because of toxins excreted by bacteria
@dorkporkknobslob9918
@dorkporkknobslob9918 10 месяцев назад
@@dawert2667the fuck you pulling racism from lol. That’s entirely projected
@evey0259
@evey0259 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely agreed. Especially because research from Cornell has shown that spices such as onion, garlic, and peppers can diminish bacterial loads in food.
@fifthcolumn388
@fifthcolumn388 9 месяцев назад
While not used to mask rotting food, spices can kill microbes so they kinda do help prevent food related disease in warmer climates where those are more common.
@str8_white_mail
@str8_white_mail 9 месяцев назад
“White people don’t season their food” Bro have you been to the southern part of the US???????
@corolla94
@corolla94 11 месяцев назад
FWIW as an Asian person I think you should at least have a spine about it. Yelling about white people not seasoning their food does not materially address colonialism and is not a meaningful blowoff valve for racial tension, it's just insensate lashing-out. You might not think it's worth sticking your neck out to argue with poc about it but the alternative is letting a generation grow up thinking certain cuisines are entirely meritless.
@AwokenEntertainment
@AwokenEntertainment 10 месяцев назад
like you said - you have to find the right chefs/restaurants!
@TheAnxiousOwl
@TheAnxiousOwl 9 месяцев назад
The only explanation for me is that I want to taste the food itself
@OmegaRainbow
@OmegaRainbow 9 месяцев назад
wow! super interesting video, both for the content AND the form! So much beautiful art was displayed, where does it come from? And kudos for the editing skills, it made the video both super interesting to hear AND to see : )
@kevingruenofficial
@kevingruenofficial 10 месяцев назад
White guy here who was raised by a food-seasoning family. This video is just incorrect. We also have seasoned bbq & everything else in my family.
@thesquad2253
@thesquad2253 10 месяцев назад
yeah but others dont i remember my friends dad used to cook food without much seasoning all the time and then he food this woman who would cook food with literally only pepper sprinkled lightly lol😅
@Sirzhukov
@Sirzhukov 10 месяцев назад
It's an USAnian meme far removed from objective reality. Nobody outside of their bubble think like that. Hell, rest of the planet doesn't really know what "white people food" even means, since European cuisine is diverse.
@Knokkelman
@Knokkelman 8 месяцев назад
That's what I (being european) expected, but I still don't fully get it - how is needing less spices in one's food to be able to enjoy it a BAD THNG? I mean, embracing this cliché I could say I'm objectively easier to satisfy, so I'm in the better spot, I should make fun of people who always need more spice... This somehow feels like people who are heavily into BDSM sometimes belittlling the "vanilla" folks for allegedly being boring/unimaginative. Or people generally acting like enjoying things is a contest where those with the weirdest or most specific taste win. No dude, you're just harder to satisfy (or pretending for attention), I should pity you. And you being able to eat chilis with some number x on this scale doesn't mean you're a badass, it maybe means your taste buds are worse then everyone else's...
@delilahsimmons1842
@delilahsimmons1842 6 месяцев назад
​@@Knokkelmanhow about we just don't judge other people's tastes and preferences no matter which way they swing?
@freshgreen54
@freshgreen54 4 месяца назад
​@@Knokkelman most of us aren't going around judging what anyone else eats. My parents have high blood pressure (so no salt,) my Dad (Irish descent) is gluten free, and my stepmom (from the Netherlands) has gerd so she doesn't even eat tomatoes or bell peppers usually. Some people have stomach ulcers and can't handle spices, or kidney failure and exclude nightshade veggies. I'm not judging anyone for how they eat or cook but some people act offended if you add spices to your own food which they've cooked. For me it's not about how much I can burn my mouth as much as the flavor profile. (Although I definitely do not mind a mouth-numbing experience) My favorite flavors of food are Thai, Caribbean, and Indian but I enjoy quite a variety of flavors, including raw, plain veggies. Personally it seems like I have more options when we go out to eat than my parents do. It is good to not necessarily need spices, but it can be bad (not that it should be ridiculed) to have some of the types of health conditions which dictate one's diet & cause excruciating pain (or worse kidney failure.) Those conditions are not exclusive to a certain racial profile.
@odonodave
@odonodave 4 месяца назад
I disagree with the premise that spices were not used to hide the taste of rotten meat. Personally, as a young soldier in the Australian army we were shown that if you cook rotten meat long enough by boiling it, i the bacteria and toxins are neutralised and the meat is safe to eat - even though it doesn't taste great. It totally makes sense to me that whenever you can it's nice to disguise the 'off' flavour of meat that has gone 'off' in the tropics with spices - spicy curries cooked for a long time are great and so popular in the tropics, particularly in SE Asia where I have travelled extensively for many years. Encourage you to rethink that one.
@andyhp6057
@andyhp6057 9 месяцев назад
Great content, and also i love the thumbnail ❤
@Barakon
@Barakon 10 месяцев назад
Perhaps spices helped preserve meat alongside salt? Only for the flavor to be beloved later on? What of spearmint too? The illusion of coldness might have been if not is a necessity in some climates.
@Nero_Karel
@Nero_Karel 9 месяцев назад
Good point about the salt - there is a reason it was historically one of the most important if not the most important ingredient here in northern Europe (contrary to pepper which I actually would consider a "spice" by your definition too.) Traditionally different kinds of onions as well as brassicaceae like mustard would have been the much more common way to add hot, "spicy" notes to a dish, since they are naturally abundant and I do very much like to add those to pretty much anything. I did also use to cook with curry powder a lot for a time as well, but found that (aside from feeling very wasteful) it gets very boring very quickly and you can appreciate the taste a lot more if it's reserved to special occasions or certain dishes. I think, especially once you get used to something so complex and intense as your standard of flavour, you really start losing your sense for appreciating simpler flavours and a wider range of nuances in flavour after a while
@yoongiboongi7307
@yoongiboongi7307 9 месяцев назад
As an Indian from south africa who is dating a white person, let me just say I was SHOCKED to discover how good his family's food is! This is coming from someone who uses alot of spices (I often cook really tasty dishes myself) however when we eat bland food we both giggle and say "ewww, this is white people food" just because it's funny and to play on the stereotype even though we know it's not really true😂😂 It's really not that deep. Sometimes he teases me and accuses me of always eating curry (just bc I'm Indian) even if it's a cheese sandwich 🌝 love him sm
@NullVoid-rm7jm
@NullVoid-rm7jm 11 месяцев назад
I sure wish this had been my experience. My parents and grandparents and everyone else in my family will season whatever their eating with whatever they could get their hands on. I remembered they even ordered some kind of special spice only found in Montana called alpine touch, which is actually pretty good but all the other stuff they used was too much
@mono-no-aware.Lem.
@mono-no-aware.Lem. 11 месяцев назад
Just discovered you yesterday with the Arthur vid. Now binging your whole portfolio. It’s the perfect mix of three RU-vidrs I love: Jon Bois, BostWiki and Johnny Harris. Thank you for your content!
@daisonend
@daisonend 9 месяцев назад
My new favorite channel.
@tjblackmore7863
@tjblackmore7863 6 месяцев назад
The Chad Butter, Garlic, Parsley vs. The Tyrone bucket of lawry's in the pot
@adriangeary1610
@adriangeary1610 10 месяцев назад
I love the production quality of your videos. The sound, pacing, and texture are all there and really working well. Thank you!
@Ianlegendstone
@Ianlegendstone 9 месяцев назад
This was a good video. Me and my boys at UGA are learning some very important things about cooking and history.
@itsjustakari
@itsjustakari 9 месяцев назад
yea we learning some cooking fr fr sorei balls
@artistparis
@artistparis 9 месяцев назад
Enjoyed the video and contents. If I can focus on an analogous spice, I really enjoyed the graphics.
@Sheepheadz
@Sheepheadz 11 месяцев назад
they do season their food
@rottenapple4404
@rottenapple4404 11 месяцев назад
It's a stereotype.
@kuramasfoxyrose
@kuramasfoxyrose 9 месяцев назад
Spices helped prevent meat spoiling, like how we Americans give food a longer shelf life with salt. But yeah, a lot of it is simply most spices grow closer to the equator.
@Amylan1
@Amylan1 9 месяцев назад
I use these videos to fall asleep to. Nothing against them, I watch them later too and they're great! But your voice just is so relaxing 😴
@ajaxtelamonian5134
@ajaxtelamonian5134 10 месяцев назад
Being vegetarian also adds to the need for spice I also feel as someone needs to turn a bowl of uninspired Lentils into something I want to eat. But yeah it's so much down the person cooking it. Got someone's whole spice cabinet recently and had a flatmate from New Delhi and we cooked up storms together.
@secundusytp4517
@secundusytp4517 Месяц назад
Vegetarian food has all the components that make omni foods delicious. The trick is to add a salt, an acid, a savoury component (like tamari), a fat source, and maybe a little bit of sugar. That's all you need to create unami flavor and make any dish spectacular. I'm a vegan, and my family is regularly blown away and remarks that they didn't know "rabbit food" could taste so good. Vegetarian/vegan dishes are just as good as omni dishes, they just require different preparation methods that aren't taught in our societies.
@countergravity6371
@countergravity6371 9 месяцев назад
Now maybe a firefighter could explain why black people don't change their smoke alarm batteries.
@Exxperiment626
@Exxperiment626 11 дней назад
Someone is a little salty over this video... Or wait, salt is too spicy for your wyte neanderthal DNA 😂.
@zakariakaleem3271
@zakariakaleem3271 Год назад
Well I'm light brown, and my people don't season their foods much either(mostly cause we lived in cold mountain valley's)
@karlscher5170
@karlscher5170 10 месяцев назад
Where?
@zakariakaleem3271
@zakariakaleem3271 10 месяцев назад
@@karlscher5170 Kashmiri
@FkSickos
@FkSickos 9 месяцев назад
Down south white people use spices. As someone whose traveled quite a bit within the US i think thats more of a thing in the midwest.
@Tysandifer
@Tysandifer 9 месяцев назад
.....what white person DOSNT SEASON THEIR FOOD? Literally everyone I've ever met has seasoned it somehow
@SFsuperforte
@SFsuperforte 10 месяцев назад
I thought you were going to bring up how middle aged white people are/were terrified of high blood pressure, leading to using no salt. I was hoping the discussion would delve deeper into certain aspects
@TakeMeToYourLida
@TakeMeToYourLida 10 месяцев назад
I’m a white American with northern/eastern European roots and my partner is a naturalized American from Guatemala. I normally cook with less spices and also prefer far less salt than he does. He mentioned once that spiced meat lasts longer than unspiced meat, and I think that’s a factor that can’t be overlooked. It’s not so much about covering up bad meat as it is about keeping the meat from going bad.
@wes773105333
@wes773105333 10 месяцев назад
For me it really just depends on what I'm cooking. If I'm following a recipe, I'll add whatever spices it calls for. If it's a dish where I'm improvising, I tend to add a minimal amount of the appropriate spices because I can always add more once it's on my plate. The more I cook, the more I get a feel for how much of each spice is appropriate.
@catherinewheel4851
@catherinewheel4851 9 месяцев назад
i think that some people use the words "season" and "spice" to mean HOT. ie. chilis. while others simply mean salt.
@kingkyle2217
@kingkyle2217 11 месяцев назад
it's racist still, and no self-hatred over "muh colonization" should justify people being harassed over "whyte ppl dont season they food" crap, it's not a joke anymore, i seen people be attacked over this, it's racism
@ZacharyStanford-ep5mw
@ZacharyStanford-ep5mw 11 месяцев назад
There was a couple instances of very weird virtue signalling in this video which threw off a very informative and intelligent watch
@world_musician
@world_musician 10 месяцев назад
@@ZacharyStanford-ep5mw and here you are signalling your virtues
@ZacharyStanford-ep5mw
@ZacharyStanford-ep5mw 10 месяцев назад
@@world_musician Peace and love brother 👍🏼
@world_musician
@world_musician 10 месяцев назад
@@ZacharyStanford-ep5mw those things cannot exist on any internet content where race is mentioned
@thesquad2253
@thesquad2253 10 месяцев назад
Dude its ok just chill ppl can just add hot sauce or more seasoning after they get food under seasoned is not the end the world lol🤣
@briangarcia8384
@briangarcia8384 10 месяцев назад
I love how you ended the video with jacques pepin. I didnt grow up watching him on pbs but watching him cook a meal with such ease is so satisfying and inspiring. Tells me everything i don't know lmao
@michavandam
@michavandam 9 месяцев назад
Beautiful images!
@fergimasta
@fergimasta 10 месяцев назад
Him: “Saying they spice their meat because it’s rotten is racist” Also him: “it’s ok if we are the butt of a joke because colonization”
@bignasty389
@bignasty389 10 месяцев назад
It's a cultural trend among American white people. They act in a way that's self-deprecating as a form of one-upsmanship to other white people. It's similar to the phenomena discussed in the video, where spices became pedestrian and so the aristocrats stopped using them and opted for simpler dishes. You could imagine that there may potentially exist a kind of social race to actively remove more and more spice from a dish as a means of demonstrating ones fashion.
@3zzzTyle
@3zzzTyle 9 месяцев назад
@@bignasty389It's hilarious how "smart" people see many patterns in others but not themselves. Hilarious, and even more than that - sad.
@ezra5514
@ezra5514 9 месяцев назад
He's right
@Jhakaro
@Jhakaro 10 месяцев назад
I thought the idea was to use spices to marinate meats in warmer climates where food would likely spoil faster so that they are less prone to becoming rotten, not that you chuck on spices after the food is already rotten to cover up the taste. The first is plausible. The second sounds absurd.
@kle1225
@kle1225 Год назад
You did a really great job of explaining the nuances and being respectful of all cultures. Food is such an important part of identity and it’s fascinating to know the cultural origins!
@alexcallender
@alexcallender 11 месяцев назад
Is this a joke? I honestly can't tell.
@gregwunderlich4253
@gregwunderlich4253 9 месяцев назад
As an old white guy, I season the fuck outta my food. But I am from the Southern US. We put hot sauce on everything. Hell, we put hot sauce on hot sauce. My dad was German, and is the one that inspired me to want to learn to cook. I am not a chef, but I have worked with a few chefs. In fact, I am currently working at a chef owned restaurant. Ironically, he's from Pennsylvania, so mayonnaise is spicy for him. But Southern folks love spicy food.
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