Chevy Corvette vs Pontiac Trans Am Drag Race, Roll Race & Brake Test: Which Cheap Muscle Car Best 

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Not really but Ok

​@@nbagoats4819 c4s set several performance records that stood for decades before they were broken.

As an owner of one, with the 6 speed, they are creaky and behind the times. It’s a beauty and sounds good though.

@@petermuller161 newest L98 Vette is 32 years old, I'd say I agree with you lol

@@nbagoats4819 C4 was and still is great, and definitely was ahead of its competitors.

Yeah, he did a horrible job driving the TA.

Back when these cars were new, I autocrossed an 88, non-turbo rx7 and had someone put an accelerometer in it to time me. I ran a 15.1 quarter with 150 hp. On a mountain runway. Lol.

Yea i had a 96 TA auto car back in 99 and it ran a 13.89 at 100 bone stock,but im barely above sea level here in VA.

As usual they have to remind everyone they’re running in Colorado where all times are way off what the mainstream is used to.

@@christophermorales1509 why, are they racing up hill or something? 🤔

I wish him safe travels into the beyond. My dad had a 98 SS when he got out the Marines. I got a 96 Z28 a couple years ago since he is so busy with work and stuff to bring back those memories when he rides with me

I agree I’ve been in both cars the lt1 should be a lot faster

Driver is shifting at 4800 rpms is the problem. Could probably use a tune up too

I was thinking the same thing!

Go show him what a LT1 can do. My 92 LT1 C4 was definitely faster than my 88 C4.

would love to see this as well

Please don't go and embarrass Tommy. Tommy really sucks at racing.

Like and comment to get Tommy’s attention. I want to see this too.

That would be nice to see.

I bet the ta has a trap speed about 1 or 2 mph faster. I've had several c4 tpi vettes and took them to the strip allot. The l98 runs better to about the thousand ft mark or 90 to 95 mph. After that the lt1 starts to creep ahead

I used to beat 6 speed LT1s all the time in my L98. LT1s weren't impressive. The tuned runners helped rhe L98 run hard despite choking the engine at high RPMs. You can't look at just peak power. The L98 had a better mid range than the untuned 3" runners of the LT1

@The Logical Lifter Not just going by peak power, going by the numbers that I can find for both of their 1/4 mile times when stock. The best I can see is the L98 was somewhere around 13.9-14.1 and the T/A was 14.1-14.3. Here the 'Vette absolutely walked away. I'm not saying the T/A should have been quicker, but it should have been closer than it was.

I know because I had a 88 5.0 mustang back in the early 90's and I had no problems with C4 corvettes, 350 TA's and 350 Iroc's until they came out with LT1 in 92.

That or they can’t drive

​@@cubedmackLol, it was all over after the LT1 dropped, I know the feeling.

Nope. My L98 1991 Firebird Formula ran 14.2 stock and a 13.7 with free mods and a new higher stall torque converter with a 1.91 60 foot. The torque curve of the L98 plus the ability to stay in the same gear for so long really was a winning combination.

Exactly what I was thinking Def an opti issue needs to just go 24x

I'm an import gut and bought a '94 6-spd on a whim. I am very impressed with the car. I've found myself wanting an '89 6-spd now, too!

​@@andydhillon1977why a 1989?

@Jesterok Jones First year the Corvette got a 6-spd manual transmission.

Same! My favorite body style, especially 80s C4.

😂😂😂

Union quality

Yup needs a new optispark

I noticed that as well and yeah there's a serious issue there!!

Stock Trans-Am of thatera and spec shoud be around 14.00 flat in the quarter. I'd imagine the c4 should be... high 14s, Which is BALLZZ quick for both these beautiful rigs! I'd LOVE to own either of them!

I think so too. It should be at least a second and a half faster.

It absolutely needs a tune up. Before they even ran, when he revved it, I said something is wrong with that it.

@@wallacerickmanii I liked the sound of it to be honest but I agree it shouldn't sound like that lol

Them LT engines were ahead of their time

@@angelgjr1999 It doesn't have the LT it has the l98

@@angelgjr1999 The Pontiac is the one rocking the LT1. The LT1 didn't hit the C4, until 1992.

He said that he didn't see any need to rev past 5,000 rpm. He isn't getting the most from the car. Put someone in that can drive and you may get a different result.

The Trans Am needs a driver mod.

@@1997SScamaroNOS They both do, guy in the vette shifts slow, the other guy won’t rev past 5k. They’re scared to break something I guess.

@@makara Another thing to note, those factory tachometers are horribly inaccurate and can be a couple hundred RPM off near redline. He was probably shifting at 4500ish RPM. The factory redline isn't until 5800 and the shift point should be around 5600.

Dude can’t drive or the TA isn’t running right. My 95 Z28 LT1 always beat my 88 L98 C4.

It's the elevation. Those cars would be in the mid to low 14s at sea level. I had a 89 vette with a auto and 307 gears it ran 13.78 at 100 bone stock other then some mufflers and a rear y pipe

​@Jeff Flaig I have no idea why this channel and others in Colorado like that That Racing Channel or whatever do these. It's embarrassing to hear them list times with cars suffocating in that elevation. Just don't or move.

Probably more the driver then anything. All being equal the lt1 vette is faster but it also has 35 more hp stock and it's a lighter car. Plus don't forget the independent suspension helps it launch better

My 99 z28 used to walk c5 s stock c4 would not stand a chance and f body are pretty light mine was 3490 with a quarter tank of fuel low 13 all day long at 106

Lt4 on the other hand and zr1 those are those are the good c4s

@@kimvaccaro2786 99 z28 is LS1 though. You had to have a 6 speed to run that quick in stock 99 z28. My buddy had a brand new 99 auto it would run 14 flat all day long at 102mph. I've seen stock c5 vettes run all over the place from low 14s to high 12s depending on if it was a auto or manual.

@@kimvaccaro2786 you were not walking C5s in a stock LS Z

that would be fun

yeah, but the vette is really small . on a none prepped surface i could see the extra 700 pounds being a problem for the TA.

@@jayb3955 lol more like 150 pounds more on the ta

It’s mostly driver I think, guy is shifting at like 4800 rpm

@@jayb3955 700 lbs what are you on lol

@@rockoz28ctd I looked it up thought it was more but its over 300 pounds my bad

Awesome until 4500 rpms

Trans Am's were always the better looking sister to the Camaro

@@deluxalpha4138 absolutely agreed.

@@Shibtember yeah its a shame Pontiac discontinued them in 02 and then a few years later GM discontinued Pontiac overall... real shame we never got another Firebird

@@deluxalpha4138 i agree, rip the firebird :( wonderful cars.

Yeah there’s something wrong with that TA lol. I had a 95 Z28 LT1 and I never lost to a L98 C4… The TA needs work or a better driver, or both…

@@speedracerjeff if I do remember correctly the TA was pretty tired, north of 100k miles? But still I expected a bit more. Also a 6 speed does require a certain amount of finesse to launch, if Tommy held it at about 3200k then dumped the clutch I think he would have got the jump, but regardless a good video!

Biggest problem with the LT1 is lack of maintenance. Cant say i blame them tho its a pain getting to the optispark. I just hope he does his research and does not toss out that mitsubishi sensor, just replace the rest of the cap and rotor. And get rid of that dexcool junk.

​@@dnegel9546 First thing I did when I got my LS1 T/A was replace the deathcool.

@@FWDSUXARSE can’t believe gm still sells that thing. Supposedly they changed the formula or something. But i aint trying to find out. Took me forever to get rid off the dexcool in my lt1. Peak + water wet kept my temps in check without even changing to a 160t stat. 🙂 I couldn’t believe water wet actually worked.

I just purchased a ‘96 LT4 two weeks ago, an amazing car. It was at a good price and I think these cars are under appreciated at the moment, but will only go up in value.

@@RomVlad Definately under appreciated. They are a an absolute steal for a legit 175 mph Sports Car (They have a higher top speed than the GS due to the lower drag). The chassis is a bit flexible, but my '96 LT4 Z51 was an absolute blast at Road Atlanta and Barber during school days. The later Z51s are not bad street cars at all. To be honest they feel more like a Z52 (with less pitch and roll) than the early almost Race Car Stiff Z51. Really hate that I sold it, but I was out of garage space and something had to go.

@@gk5891 Well, I just picked this car up, it has 76,000 miles on it, all original paint, accident free, very very nice condition,$13,000 . I just had my mechanic go over everything. It does need a new rear shocks, and it does have the F 45 suspension with the original shocks, so I’ll have to take care of that, but he was very impressed by the condition.

@@RomVlad That's one of the nice thing about Corvettes.. They are often weekend toys and can be very well kept with reasonable miles even after a couple of decades. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I did mine.

@@gk5891 Thank you. I’m thinking in the future maybe some coil overs, another set of wheels and tires, but not really doing anything to the motor. I hope to keep it as long as I possibly can.

Corvette easily wins. The F150 has more HP and slightly more torque but the massive difference in weight and aerodynamics will be the deciding factor. In some sense it's not fair to compare the two... they are very different vehicles designed for different things. If you want to tow or carry stuff around on the other hand, F150 is the clear winner. That's why I own a Corvette and an SUV. Need the right tool for the job

@@ObscureStuff420 just throwing out another vehicle I’d like to see tested. Yeah the truck weighs more and is less aerodynamic. Twin turbo at a mile above sea level makes it closer. I don’t want to see them race my XJ8 against the Corvette. Baby EcoBoost crew cab yes.

Adjustable steering wheel

Old buddy of mine had a 89 Corvette with an automatic and it ran like a striped a-- ape lol, that TA probably needs a tune up and who no's maybe the engine was road hard and put away wet lol!!!!

Guy is shifting too early at 4800, needs a tune up too likely

Older c4s had adjustable steering tilt and telescope. I think that's the telescoping adjustment.

Bingo

most likely the trans am is a bit down on power and needs a tune up!

More like 285hp & 330tq vs 245hp 345tq

Because the front of some cars goes longer than the front wheel. The front wheel is the stopping point for both cars to get an accurate measurement.

I just sold a 96 Z28 for $2k last summer. The buyer was going to have to put the engine and tranny back in it but it was all there. I only bought the car because I was going to put that engine and tranny in a 65 C10 I had just to keep the build on that truck cheap and I was trying to sell parts and guy wanted it all. He actually had a v6 car and he wanted to do a swap which seems really stupid to me. Told him to just put the engine and tranny back in the car I sold him. Its probably yard art can't imagine he will ever do anything at all with it. It was a 6 speed car I really just wanted it for that 6 speed. I paid $1500 I think for it and I drove it home. It was a bank repo. Then I found a bunch of SnapOn and Matco tools in it including a battery 1/4 ratchet that was SnapOn and a set of SnapOn 1/2 inch impact sockets, a bunch of Matco screwdrivers and some wrenches the tools alone were probably worth what I paid for the car and it had a set of C6 rims on it and I kept the rims.

maybe had them gatorbacks tho...lmao!

Tommy is a horrible driver

Glad I wasn’t the only one who noticed.