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Is this the end of America's love affair with pickup trucks? Automotive News reports large pickup truck sales falling 4% in total during Q1 2024, and Ray & Zach aren't the least bit surprised. After all, the signs have been there for several months now, haven't they?

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@PhillipDavis830
@PhillipDavis830 Месяц назад
Let's be honest. New car price increases far surpassed real wages. They have made almost every car out of reach.
@lotsofhairbutnomoney3705
@lotsofhairbutnomoney3705 Месяц назад
and yet all the truck goons will still finance it
@tripacer8259
@tripacer8259 Месяц назад
True.... Used to be able to buy a plain Tacoma for a fair price, not now!
@chrisfoxart
@chrisfoxart Месяц назад
Manufacturers have been in bed with credit companies since 2008. That’s why cars have remained more expensive.
@colbyharrington6166
@colbyharrington6166 Месяц назад
My mouth dropped when RAM had a higher price than Ford. Financed a RAM for a v8 nearly 2 years ago (car was totaled in an accident) when Fords in my area were 8-10k higher.
@fratzogmopars
@fratzogmopars Месяц назад
Industry ruined, mission accomplished. Now the push to make electric vehicles top dog.
@racoming1035
@racoming1035 Месяц назад
An $80k RAM losses $30k in value the second the dealer gives you the keys. I'm done buying new.
@maverick-zj3jz
@maverick-zj3jz Месяц назад
I just got a 500.00 increase in my auto insurance policy. No accidents no tickets. My vehicle is 20 years old and paid off. Im not looking for a rolling mortgage.
@761jared
@761jared Месяц назад
No explanation from the insurance company as to why? Might be time to find a new one.
@Support_Ad_Blocker
@Support_Ad_Blocker Месяц назад
@@761jared they are ALL expensive. I have a 25-year-old Tacoma and zero tickets, wrecks, etc, and every six months the premium goes up.
@edwinrodeo
@edwinrodeo Месяц назад
I got 2 vehicles ford f150 & Taurus both 09’s. Insurance this yr is 500+ extra this yr. We are both over 65 years old Too. $1900. Today. No accidents, tickets, nothing. The broker told me everyone’s insurance is going up. One main reason is people are getting hit & a lot of drivers are just leaving the Accident. So we get stuck paying the price. 😡
@Support_Ad_Blocker
@Support_Ad_Blocker Месяц назад
@@edwinrodeo I hear that about the hit and runs AND the uninsured drivers. AZ is (in)famous for both. I think I'm the only person on my block with insurance. Which I downgraded to the state minimum for the first time in my life.
@toushiblouemoua2750
@toushiblouemoua2750 Месяц назад
I read a few articles the other day about why insurance has gone up. The companies' response was because of an increase for car repairs. I went from paying $90 a month to $130, and now it's up to $155
@robm2245
@robm2245 Месяц назад
The sales are still only down by 4%. I am shocked they are holding up that well. They should be down about 50%!!!
@chetmyers7041
@chetmyers7041 Месяц назад
Sales are down 4% since what date? Maybe sales are only off 4% from the lows of pandemic days. Look for healthy sales volume pre-pandemic.
@Mark-qv4bn
@Mark-qv4bn Месяц назад
I wouldn't be able to afford the insurance, or registration. It's a joke, new trucks 4x4 freshly washed no scratches from off reading. California trucks, ha ha.
@JMac85X
@JMac85X Месяц назад
I have a newspaper from 2019. A nice F150 was going for $36k.
@texastravelers210
@texastravelers210 Месяц назад
​@@JMac85Xand used 2 to 3 years old , under 45k miles went for less than $25k .
@danielbates9674
@danielbates9674 Месяц назад
I don't believe 4%. Somebody is lying.
@johnstokes6650
@johnstokes6650 Месяц назад
These prices are nuts! I bet the quality of these trucks hasn't increased the same percentage as the cost.
@jonkeau5155
@jonkeau5155 Месяц назад
Quality has been going down for about 10-15 years.
@stown308
@stown308 Месяц назад
Just wait with the UAW involved all quality will tank. Union workers are the laziest workers there are
@geoffreykeating8172
@geoffreykeating8172 Месяц назад
Hey dealers , you get greedy you get nothing 😅
@_TRI66ER
@_TRI66ER Месяц назад
I can tell you from hands on experience that the quality has gone down. I think it's purposely. And yes, politics are involved.
@woodrmp1
@woodrmp1 Месяц назад
@@jonkeau5155I’ve already had more issues with my 2018 F150 (6.5 years old) than I did over the ownership of my 2006 civic (got rid of it after 10.5 years due to needing a larger vehicle).
@troyv8302
@troyv8302 Месяц назад
I've given up on owning another truck. Can't justify the cost. They made the blue collar vehicle unaffordable for the masses.
@tripacer8259
@tripacer8259 Месяц назад
Well said, I can't even afford a new Tacoma now!!
@gorutra
@gorutra Месяц назад
Right I’ve always drove a sedan. Now that kids are grown and can afford a truck… I can’t
@jacksparrow3490
@jacksparrow3490 Месяц назад
Ding ding.. that's the plan.. they just won't come out and say it.. so they have to do it this way to get YOU to come to the conclusions of the behavior they want you to have.. they got caught trying the great reset and it screwed up the projection of how it will all even out should they not get to lock everyone down for years and years..
@speeddemon0712
@speeddemon0712 Месяц назад
Look into the 03-07 (classic) Silverado's with the v8. They're relatively cheap and will run an easy 250k+ miles before anything major is needed.
@tomtripptree5079
@tomtripptree5079 Месяц назад
Back in the day. A truck was made for the blue collar workers Today all these yuppies drive them and drove the prices up.
@jalbert222
@jalbert222 Месяц назад
You are forgetting one more item, making the 65K+- pickup trucks prices 'untrue': SALES TAX ! Averaging 8.5 to 9% in place like California. So, the real price of a $67K pickup is really $72-$73K Insane.
@keithfaulkner6319
@keithfaulkner6319 Месяц назад
10 % in Cook County Chicago.
@chrisagostini5795
@chrisagostini5795 Месяц назад
I was part of the auto industry for over a decade from the late 90's to the late 2000's. A brand new fully loaded Silverado LT3 (LTZ badge not available till 2007) 1500 crew cab 4x4 employee price was under 34K the sticker was $39K. Reg cab work truck sticker was $15K.
@smileychess
@smileychess Месяц назад
Turns out people don’t want to spend an entire year of their life working to pay for a damn truck.
@JamaicanMeCrazy
@JamaicanMeCrazy Месяц назад
It's our fault for doing it for so long. I've never understood it. The f150 has been the best selling vehicle in America for decades at this point. Nuts
@smileychess
@smileychess Месяц назад
@@JamaicanMeCrazy - Yeah I never understood it. I grew up in a rural area where _everyone_ had a truck, yet hardly anyone used it to haul stuff. The farmers (and there were many farmers out there) always had older trucks with bigger beds. That made sense, but everyone else seemed to do it because it was part of the culture.
@fredmonroe6042
@fredmonroe6042 Месяц назад
3 yrs for me.
@user-ps1ft1hy4j
@user-ps1ft1hy4j Месяц назад
Most people have to work longer than that, too.
@robertthomas7176
@robertthomas7176 27 дней назад
if it was only a year
@lanky-x782
@lanky-x782 Месяц назад
Until they drop 40 to 50% I ain't buying and am more than willing not to.
@jerrypowers7671
@jerrypowers7671 Месяц назад
Me too.
@SkilledWindex
@SkilledWindex Месяц назад
Same that's what I'm doing for a challenger
@mightymikethebear
@mightymikethebear Месяц назад
The prices the manufacturers are charging are 2x what they should be. Let them rust on the lots!!
@shackrat2331
@shackrat2331 Месяц назад
@@mightymikethebearNot sure how you came up with that “factoid”. Comments on this site have been increasingly filled with this type of drivel. This used to be an informative sight, unfortunately it seems to attract people who express opinions that you see here. CIAO!!
@turbalejo4999
@turbalejo4999 Месяц назад
EXACTLY! 50% over-priced at least.
@danhillman4523
@danhillman4523 Месяц назад
Trucks, pickup trucks, have morphed into something that has nothing to do with actual work. They're mostly luxury vehicles and there is no reason to stock these things in the numbers that they do. I worked at GM truck assembly and even before I retired I was astonished and asked myself, "who is buying these things?". The sticker prices were outrageous even then.
@nunyabisness4300
@nunyabisness4300 24 дня назад
Worked at a GM dealer and remember the first gas $50k plus dollar High Country Silverado. I worked for Jeep when the Wrangler Rubicon was $32k. When consumers stop buying overpriced vehicles then maybe vehicles will become more affordable.
@stevegallagher687
@stevegallagher687 Месяц назад
I sold my pickup years ago and bought a trailer for behind the Expedition I already owned. Eventually sold the big Expedition and bought an economy car. If I need a pickup there is UHaul. Much cheaper than ownership.
@Paul-fk8qy
@Paul-fk8qy 16 дней назад
Drove buy Ford dealership today and saw a new expedition - $102k
@michaelsnively3621
@michaelsnively3621 15 дней назад
The government and highly subsidized companies forcing you into nothing.....
@RandoRaf
@RandoRaf Месяц назад
cost is higher and reliability is lower. Great deal for them.
@desmondjefferson2127
@desmondjefferson2127 Месяц назад
FORD wouldn't even honor the warranty 2 years out. I have zero idea why anyone still buys American.
@user-oi9bg6fx5t
@user-oi9bg6fx5t Месяц назад
For these prices who’s buying American if you don’t need to tow 15000 pounds? Toyota holds value, more reliable and is the same price as the American brands.
@speeddemon0712
@speeddemon0712 Месяц назад
My buddy is a service advisor for Honda... the amount of electrical problems new vehicles have now is insane!
@promisefisheries7901
@promisefisheries7901 Месяц назад
@@desmondjefferson2127 In my situation it's because nobody else makes what I need. The diesel Nissan had no payload and mechanical issues that made the worst domestic look positively reliable. The 2nd gen tundra was nice, but my normal tool load was way to much for it. If toyota would come out with a true one ton diesel I'd never buy domestic again. Near zero chance of that happening, so domestics it is.
@761jared
@761jared Месяц назад
@@user-oi9bg6fx5t That depend on what models you're looking at. I was seriously looking at a Toyota hybrid until I recently stumbled across the updated Trax. The difference in price:efficiency with my yearly driving means it would be 30-40 years before I recoup the extra $10K spent on a RAV4 hybrid over a Trax, due to fuel savings. Reliability might be the only standard worth paying attention to, but as I've had my reliable Ford for 14 years and +230k miles, I'm not really looking at a car holding value. I just don't need to buy and sell every 5-6 years because I now have extra money to spend. Just don't trash your car, take care of regular maintenance, and most will be suitable for a long time.
@johnhinant970
@johnhinant970 Месяц назад
The consumers are done.
@googlekeepsmemisinformed447
@googlekeepsmemisinformed447 Месяц назад
Right. But I can’t believe people are still paying these astronomical prices for SUVs! The average price for those has to be what, like $75k???
@DickiMoltisanti
@DickiMoltisanti Месяц назад
The consumers are never done that why they are consumers
@stephencavanaugh8377
@stephencavanaugh8377 Месяц назад
Maybe in that they won't get that expensive ass new truck, but their not buying those overpriced trucks is worse for the manufacturers than it is for consumers. Someone will come along and make a cheaper car/truck to fill that void.
@jmmywyf4lyf
@jmmywyf4lyf Месяц назад
"You will own nothing, and be happy"
@Soxruleyanksdrool
@Soxruleyanksdrool Месяц назад
Some consumers are done. Many consumers are not done. If even half the consumers were done, you'd see significant price drops, which have not happened. I'll believe that new truck prices are in freefall when I see it.
@Adrian-X1
@Adrian-X1 Месяц назад
Half way done on my Ram. Probably won't be spending this much on a truck again. 66,000.
@kirksmith5955
@kirksmith5955 Месяц назад
Yesterday, I purchased a taillight assembly from local GM Dealer for my 2018 GMC Sierra SLT 1500 truck. The parts manager told me that if I bring the broke one to them I would receive a 50.00 core charge discount? (WHAT)! I thought core charge benefits only existed for batteries or rebuildable parts. Anyway, the total price for this ripoff was 860.00! So before anybody commits on why I didn’t buy something off Amazon or some other website, I’m over a barrel with traveling and pulling a trailer so waiting for someone to ship the part to me was no possible. My story has been shared by others who have run into this and it’s really taking a toll on truck or brand loyalty. Remember the days of going to a parts store and getting 1156 or 1157 bulbs and replacing them. So just remember these issues when purchasing vehicles and put sales people on the spot!
@frankkatz125
@frankkatz125 Месяц назад
@kirksmith5955, THEY WANT ALL YOUR MONEY, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE ! $860 FOR A PLASTIC BUBBLE WHAT A JOKE ! ON US
@kirksmith5955
@kirksmith5955 18 дней назад
Totally agree! Had to post this garbage.
@ruxrox
@ruxrox Месяц назад
"Crew cab" trucks with a 5 ft bed= SUV with open air porch.
@kurtgreen1040
@kurtgreen1040 Месяц назад
Yes not trucks anymore bitch wagons
@m.f.m.67
@m.f.m.67 29 дней назад
Exactly! I went shopping for a new truck, and couldn't find anything with a 6.5 bed. I want a TRUCK, not an SUV.
@bassdaze
@bassdaze 20 дней назад
thats why half ton trucks are worthless... get a real truck with a real bed
@XRakkgruntX
@XRakkgruntX 3 дня назад
@@bassdazeI have an f250 with a short bed, never needed anymore bed than that regularly, if I do, I have a 18 foot trailer.
@williamcaruso9522
@williamcaruso9522 Месяц назад
People want affordable vehicles. Automakers need to stop their monopoly on expensive only cars and sell us what we want. Or no bailout next time.
@adama7752
@adama7752 Месяц назад
There will always be a bailout.
@DABK2024
@DABK2024 Месяц назад
The bailout saves the UAW, not the company. ​@@adama7752
@airbornesoldieramerica7125
@airbornesoldieramerica7125 Месяц назад
100% agree. Don't think they should had no bail out last time, just the fact that they only supplied jobs for China, Mexico etc...on our expense, and give rest of the American workers and American people the middle finger, and still screw us over etc....when we buy their products from them.
@2012bigPerm
@2012bigPerm Месяц назад
Oh they'll get a bailout.
@jjthefed
@jjthefed Месяц назад
But if you keep voting the status quo every election cycle.
@caseylayne5419
@caseylayne5419 Месяц назад
Just bought an RST,3.0 Duramax,4x4 for 52k in Texas out the door most dealers were 62-71k
@douglaswilliams5794
@douglaswilliams5794 Месяц назад
Love how you prepare and present data today.
@jimconnoy6133
@jimconnoy6133 Месяц назад
I'd like to have another pickup truck. But they're costing more than my house did. Not acceptable
@clarencebryant9986
@clarencebryant9986 Месяц назад
To your point, I can buy 6 acres of raw, buildable land 2 hours from my current home in the Washington DC area for $50k. I want a new truck but refuse to pay $60k + for one.
@airbornesoldieramerica7125
@airbornesoldieramerica7125 Месяц назад
Price on these trucks and even many cars are 5 to 8 times higher then what both sets of my grandparents paid for their houses back in the day.
@sues3218
@sues3218 Месяц назад
Buy a used one instead, through a private sale and pay cash. Do some research on which older trucks to avoid and which are well made. You will also pay way less insurance since you don't have payments, and then you can carry basic insurance on it. Your registration in a lot of states will be less too.
@StitchJones
@StitchJones Месяц назад
Trucks are too expensive. Screw that noise.
@invoxicated
@invoxicated Месяц назад
Absolutely they have turned trucks into Pimp wagons and priced them as such. There's just too much fancy tech built into these trucks thats not needed.
@StitchJones
@StitchJones Месяц назад
@@invoxicated Dude, I just don't get it. Why can't things just be simple. I mean, common.
@brianschryver8314
@brianschryver8314 Месяц назад
@@StitchJonesthe average buyer seems to be sucked in by cheap trinkets that cost a fortune. Due to dumb regulations, the industry started to turn down the idiot road. After it worked, it continued down that road.
@lawrencefranck9417
@lawrencefranck9417 Месяц назад
I haven’t seen a $61k truck on a lot in two years. Take out fleet sales….how can you have the same tech and luxury in a car for 1/2 the price of a truck? GREED
@KREEMTHEDREAM
@KREEMTHEDREAM Месяц назад
I just drove passed a few dealerships. Inventory is high just waiting patiently on my part.
@billmullen2275
@billmullen2275 Месяц назад
Ram initially gained market share because it was a good value compared to Ford & GM. Now it's more expensive plus you get that Stellantis build quality as a bonus.
@anderander5662
@anderander5662 Месяц назад
Exactly
@mikenonya6382
@mikenonya6382 Месяц назад
Yeah, Stellantis is a real dependable Veh. LOL Could not give me one.
@bailey9r
@bailey9r Месяц назад
Funny how Stellanis brings the sarcasm out of all of us ;
@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor
@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor Месяц назад
Seems to, there take it or leave it attitude. What in the world was the market adjusted prices? I bought a car for my daughter in 2013. I researched the average selling price for that model. It was a snob dealership, so I started to keep it walking, and they met the price.
@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor
@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor Месяц назад
The add on are stupid,dealer prep 2800 good by
@wawalker1
@wawalker1 Месяц назад
Yes, they are unaffordable. I remember as a kid when my dad bought a 1966 Dodge pickup. It wasn’t even 2k but had no options. Why did trucks become a rolling apartment on wheels, and costs just as much? The first house I bought in 1984 was 73k. Many vehicles are above that. Insane.
@red5standingby419
@red5standingby419 Месяц назад
Not sure what the price of a house 40 years ago or a truck 60 years ago have to do with anything. It is and always has been how affordable something is in comparison to how much people earn. Just using the static price of $2k for a truck 60 years ago doesn't tell anyone anything. But yes, things were much more affordable back then because while prices have gone way up wages have not followed at the same pace.
@markcowan3366
@markcowan3366 Месяц назад
Because the bells and whistles justify the increased price.
@red5standingby419
@red5standingby419 Месяц назад
@@markcowan3366 Incorrect. While all the extra bells and whistles justify a price increase, they don't justify just how much it has increased. Most of these trucks have gone up in MSRP by 30-40% in just the last 3-5 years. I'm pretty sure the cost of manufacturing them have not gone up anywhere near that in the last 3-5 years. Especially from just "bells and whistles". No, there was a temporary shortage from the supply chain which caused a drastic increase. The manufacturers decided they like making all that extra profit now that the supply chain issues are no longer there and raised their sticker price to what people were paying during the pandemic etc.
@fratzogmopars
@fratzogmopars Месяц назад
My first new car an 85 Monte Carlo SS cost $13,000 my first new house around then cost 55 grand with 12% interest, which was a great rate considering the rate was in the upper teens before that. Now a new vehicle costs more than my house and car combined bought back in the mid 80’s. FJB.
@user-zq3wt4qq9b
@user-zq3wt4qq9b Месяц назад
@@fratzogmopars well yes, prices are inversely proportional to interest rates. years of super low interest rates led to super high prices. They started rasing rates, but it takes time for the dust to settle
@blazeandcyrus
@blazeandcyrus Месяц назад
I've been following you guys for years and your information has been so helpful the last 3 cars I've bought. Thanks!
@froggmann01
@froggmann01 Месяц назад
Never bought a new vehicle and with current trends I likely never will. Simply put modern day vehicles are just over-priced jumbles of computers stapled onto a few mechanical bits relying on a hap-hazard style of networking (Token ring) to hold it all together. Probably doesn't help that nearly every truck out there is the size of a barn. I've got a 93 ford truck lifted 4" on 35s and this has become quite apparent when I'm in traffic looking up at modern pickup trucks. I think I'll just stick to my 20-30 year old Ford and Toyotas.
@brucekastel707
@brucekastel707 Месяц назад
My brother-in-law's 2000 Tundra loaded SR5 was totalled by a F3 tornado in 2014. I bought it for $1500. It has a computer, the new trucks are computers that have wheels. It's fast, smooth, is a reasonable size and gets 15 mpg in town and 25 on the highway. It doesn't talk to me or have annoying bells and other sounds. I park it outside because it's already been thru a tornado. The drive train will probably outlive me and if it doesn't I'll drop a new engine in it. My point is there is nothing in a new truck that I want or need. Twenty four years of improvements have complicated the trucks and only slightly improve gas mileage. I can buy one hell of a lot of gas to make up the difference for $70,000.
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 Месяц назад
You must live in the south. I haven't seen a first gen Tundra in over a decade. Most were totally rotted out and in the scrapyard by 2010.
@johngalt5205
@johngalt5205 Месяц назад
These new 'mid-sized' trucks are pretty much the same size as my '82 F150. These new 'super-sized' pickups are ginormous!
@rustychain9518
@rustychain9518 Месяц назад
CAFE standards are responsible for that.
@johngalt5205
@johngalt5205 Месяц назад
@@rustychain9518 Yup, we can always count on the government to mess up a good thing.
@jerrypowers7671
@jerrypowers7671 Месяц назад
I know. I was parked next to an old Tacoma extended cab a few weeks ago and was shocked how small it is.
@cgwjy122
@cgwjy122 Месяц назад
Trying to buy a trak and none of my local dealerships have any and one is even putting the dreaded “market” adjustment on them 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@msellers13
@msellers13 Месяц назад
Hearing we are going to have quite a few down weeks this year at Fort Wayne Assembly. (Silverados/Sierras LD)
@dccd3237
@dccd3237 Месяц назад
it’s not just pick up trucks. It’s all vehicles that are overpriced because the fact is that’s what’s not selling that’s what’s gonna stay not selling.
@mrrice117
@mrrice117 Месяц назад
People are tired of everything being so damn expensive, cars, houses, rent, food, utilities. I get so mad when i hear the news say wall street had record profits and yet cant afford to pay people a half assed decent salary. Noy asking to be a billionaire, i just want to make enough to afford a comfortable little life for myself
@user-yq4nt7ks5t
@user-yq4nt7ks5t 22 дня назад
Yet those same people are still willing to buy expensive vehicles, phones, and streaming services. Until people start talking with their wallet instead of their mouth (or social platform), things will not change.
@ronhamm
@ronhamm Месяц назад
I purchased a three year old truck in 2007 for $10,400 and drove it for 14 years. You can imagine my level of sticker shock when I begin looking for a replacement in 2020!
@DuffyGabi
@DuffyGabi Месяц назад
My 2014 F150 seems to have succumbed to the rust belt much quicker than my 2000 E150. Couple that with the insane prices and that’s a recipe for me to simply living with rust and for longer between purchases.
@bradleyanderson4315
@bradleyanderson4315 Месяц назад
This happened when pickups changed from work vehicles with a single row of seats to Country Cadillacs with 2 rows of seats, leather upholstery, carpeted floors, high tech radio, a height so high that you need a boarding ladder, and tonneau tops.
@fredhearty1762
@fredhearty1762 Месяц назад
Good time to recall that GM and Ford have stripped down their business to focus on these large vehicles. Self-inflicted wound.
@markcowan3366
@markcowan3366 Месяц назад
Got rid of cars in favor of suv's because "higher profit margin"". They could charge more for the same material costs. I paid $19k for my focus ST in 2014. It has push button start, a 5 speed manual, and I can unlock the doors by grabbing the handles. Nothing really extravagant by today's standards. Now in 2024, 10 years later, a Ford Maverick, with the same engine, an automatic transmission, no push button start, and no ability to unlock the car without using the key or pushing the fob, is $25k + . If you want those options you have to buy the lariat package and it's $35k minimum. The material to produce the Maverick is the same or possibly less than the focus st. And my focus st has soft touch materials not just hard plastic.
@mattmattes3913
@mattmattes3913 Месяц назад
The last new truck I purchased was a 2000 Silverado 2-WD Reg. Cab Longbox. LS trim, 4.8 V-8 5speed 3.73 G-80 rear. Nuttin' special. The price I paid was $19,900. That same truck today would be triple that. Only problem is I'm not making triple what I did 24 years ago. In fact I'm making less given cost of living and taxes, on all levels, never goes down. Plus the build quality of all truck brands is so poor. Here in the Rust Belt (South Western Pa.), I've seen 2 & 3 year old trucks with serious rust issues. And folks are paying 60K plus fer this. It's a shame
@user-xi5to6to1x
@user-xi5to6to1x Месяц назад
im 75 the last time i bought a new car was 1996 anything with wheels is a total loss
@stevejohnson1321
@stevejohnson1321 Месяц назад
So much for building only "most-profitable." Most buyers don't want to pay $80,000-plus. Those willing already bought theirs.
@promisefisheries7901
@promisefisheries7901 Месяц назад
I'm a one ton truck user, need them for work to haul my tools and parts to various jobs. I was due for a new truck in 21, but prices were absurd. Now my truck is well past its operational life and I'm spending weekends fixing it to nurse it along. Last week we went truck shopping. Stuff is down from peak, but still 25k higher than late 2019. Sadly it's probably as low as it's gonna get with baked in inflation over the last 4 years. One we looked at was a one ton 22' that had been on the lot more than 470 days....
@chucks4328
@chucks4328 Месяц назад
I was looking for a ton truck to pull trailers. Found a good used semi for a fraction of the price. Doesn't even notice the trailers I put on it.
@sabastian4858
@sabastian4858 Месяц назад
470 days on the lot is no longer a new truck. My 2016 hasn't seen a total of 470 days in the sun its entire life. What you are looking at is a used truck with lot rot and most likely has flat spotted all of the tires. You're buying used at a new truck price.
@walterpearlman143
@walterpearlman143 Месяц назад
I bought a 2009 GMC Canyon 2 wheel drive p/u truck the first day of cash for clunkers program - traded a 98 F 150 with a leaking gas tank and broken driver’s side window and 180,000 miles- Got $ 6600 total discount $ 224 k and still purring No new American car fir me
@Mike-vd2qt
@Mike-vd2qt Месяц назад
When I was running a small construction business I bought a new Toyota Tacoma, stripped, bench seat, standard cab, 4 cylinder, for $8,888 from local Toyota's newspaper ad. For running around the city hauling paint, tile, lumber, it was perfect.
@TS-hi8vo
@TS-hi8vo Месяц назад
I won’t be buying a full size pickup until the msrp for a mid level truck is 40k, where they should be. It’s beyond ridiculous.
@jesusfernandez-eh8cx
@jesusfernandez-eh8cx Месяц назад
exactly 💯 👍
@ayloryab
@ayloryab Месяц назад
emissions standards and gadgets are a big reason for this; even the baseline trucks have to have a ton of stuff under the hood to meet standards. They are going with smaller engines with expensive superchargers, Turbos, and other things to get the same HP that a 5.7 would have gotten on its own. Then add all the same quality of life things that are in a BMW and bam...80k.
@mr.shelly1812
@mr.shelly1812 Месяц назад
I can see them breaking these unsold trucks up for parts, and making even more money keeping the existing sold trucks repaired.
@kevinabbott18
@kevinabbott18 22 дня назад
$9000 every 180km for a transmission sucks as well.
@devildog5354
@devildog5354 Месяц назад
18 years on my 2006 pickup; now going to try and make it last forever...
@tdunn2
@tdunn2 Месяц назад
2012 here with 140,000miles. I’ve got many, many yrs left. I could apply the avg payment on a new truck ($700+/mo) to maintenance and upgrades on 2012 and have a ‘new’ truck in a year or two!😂
@jimhagenford79
@jimhagenford79 Месяц назад
200k on my 2007 f150, replaced all timing components, tires, brakes & struts/shocks. Goin for another 150k!😊
@dogsense3773
@dogsense3773 Месяц назад
249,000 on my 97 Tacoma, only thing I haul is my fishing pole
@lawman5511
@lawman5511 Месяц назад
Throw in the interest on an auto loan, combined with the decline in quality and the average buyer just isn’t buying anything.
@spik3dscrutiny
@spik3dscrutiny Месяц назад
THAT PRICE IS TOO HIGH ~ Marshal Lucky c. 1980
@Bruins77Fan
@Bruins77Fan Месяц назад
Dealers and manufacturers STILL refusing to lower prices even though their trucks aren't selling. Total joke.
@DanzigDemento
@DanzigDemento Месяц назад
My first new truck was a GMC. A few years later I wanted to replace it. The Chevy/GMC dealer laughed me out of the store when I told him what I wanted to pay. Dodge Ram trucks were nearly $10,000 cheaper on equivalent models. I ended up with a new Dodge pretty loaded for the cost of a Chevy work truck price. A few years later Dodge announced they were raising prices across the model range to keep up with the other makers. They got greedy and never saw a ceiling to pricing. Now they’re so inflated they’re in too deep. I’ve been a Dodge/Ram owner for almost 30 years. I’m about priced out on getting another full sized truck.
@AnthonyC-vk5ig
@AnthonyC-vk5ig Месяц назад
I cannot process paying that much for a Home Depot Runner…..
@Mr_Spock512
@Mr_Spock512 Месяц назад
Some people are REALLY REALLY stupid.
@GeneralChangOfDanang
@GeneralChangOfDanang Месяц назад
I did the math and realized you can rent a Uhaul truck every weekend for 6 years straight and just finally break even with the cost of the average truck now.
@fueledbymusic3
@fueledbymusic3 Месяц назад
I bought my 05 F150 for $5000 2 years ago. It does have 200k but runs and drives beautifully. And i only use it when i need a truck. I only driven about 5k miles in the last 2 years. DONT NEED A $80K truck for that
@lillie4505
@lillie4505 Месяц назад
please make more dealership role plays!! i love the channel, thank you Ray and Zach :)
@ArnoldsDesign
@ArnoldsDesign Месяц назад
I bought a used 2014 Ram1500 in 2016 for $26,300 with 13,000 miles on it. It came in on a lease, and was a garage queen. Even had a carpeted bed liner in pristine shape, lol. I remember there were a couple Hellcats sitting in the dealerships for about $65,000. I was thinking, wow that's a lot of money for a toy, but I knew it was a niche market, so big deal. I never thought just a few years later, the average pickup truck would be the same price! So now today, with the CPI coming out higher, it's not going to help truck sales. There is still part of me that goes conspiratorial and thinks this is a covert effort to push people out of gas guzzlers and into more economical vehicles. Like you said, the average person realizes that you don't need tons of steel to get you back and forth to work for many jobs. I drive a 2019 Toyota Yaris for commuting. 45 mpg, and it's all I really need much of the time. However, I also carry construction supplies for projects, and tow a 20' trailer with a New Holland tractor with attachments, so I need a truck occasionally. My plan is to get a good full size truck, like a used V8 Tundra, and use it only when I need to haul, or tow, and basically hold onto it as long as possible. Meanwhile, I will drive econo boxes for normal transit.
@GeneralChangOfDanang
@GeneralChangOfDanang Месяц назад
You're a wise man. I drive a sedan to and from work and have a big ugly old SUV for hauling stuff for weekend projects. 3/4 of the parking lot at my job is taken up by huge pickups that people use as daily drivers. That's gotta be hard on the wallet with gas prices these days.
@ArnoldsDesign
@ArnoldsDesign Месяц назад
@@GeneralChangOfDanang This is the way to do it as far as I'm concerned.
@kevint2958
@kevint2958 Месяц назад
Yep its the way to go and just fix the truck when it needs it it will run for years
@ArnoldsDesign
@ArnoldsDesign Месяц назад
@@kevint2958 I had a 2000 V8 Dakota that I retired in 2016 when it rusted to the point it wouldn't pass inspection. Still ran though with 314,000 miles on it.
@XRakkgruntX
@XRakkgruntX 3 дня назад
I just bought a 2020 Tundra 4x4 Crewmax SR5 With 38,000 miles. Lease return and absolute garage queen. Paid 41,000. That was in April, I have a 2005 F250 diesel 4x4 and a 2002 Toyota Tacoma trd 4x4 I just gave to my son I’m selling my F250, it’s been great and I loved it but I don’t need it anymore. Everything I have can be towed with the Tundra easily. The reason I bought the Tundra is because I believe folks are tired of paying 80k for new trucks and will soon deplete the used dependable truck market.
@mrnobody5989
@mrnobody5989 Месяц назад
Dealers are still asking more than $75,000 for Limited 1500 Rams in the Mid-South!!
@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor
@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor Месяц назад
Sure are, plus what else they can stick you for.
@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor
@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor Месяц назад
Get a big horn level 2 equipment group.
@ummfish4878
@ummfish4878 Месяц назад
the problem with the full size trucks is there the size of a semi truck with a lil 4 foot bed. if your buying a pick up truck you usually want a bed on it and not a giant 4 seat suv
@ufxpnv
@ufxpnv Месяц назад
I bought a 2018 RAM 1500 4X4 EcoDiesel Big Horn with off road package and towing package for $34K. 2023 price for the same truck was $74k
@jaywolfe1254
@jaywolfe1254 Месяц назад
The average salary in the United States in 2024 is $59,384 it is recommended not to spend more than half your salary on a car.. and that depends if you're in debt..
@eddieo6466
@eddieo6466 Месяц назад
They raised prices on regular vehicles in order to Jack Up prices on introductory electric trucks...and the market imploded!
@dvader3263
@dvader3263 Месяц назад
Ford sold 1 million ICE trucks and vans in 2023. They sold only 24,000 F150 Lightnings. Maybe Ford should learn how to make a capable, desirable and affordable electric pickup truck. Tesla sold 1.8 million EVs in 2023, most at a cost of $50,000 or less. Tesla made a profit doing that. Tesla sold 1.3 million EVs in 2022 and almost 1 million in 2021. Now they have the Cybertruck and they'll soon be on their way to 2 million EVs per year. See where this is going?
@user-tt8ec4qj5d
@user-tt8ec4qj5d 29 дней назад
@@dvader3263 vote trump!
@ameccolt
@ameccolt Месяц назад
Here in Canada when I bought a 2019 Ram rebel reasonably optioned out was $70,000 and change. When I went to trade my truck the 2021 model was near $78,000. So I decided to with 2021 F-150 which had a price of $62,000 which was the XLT Sport with the FX4 package, by the way I had this truck leased for 3 years. Upon my lease ending the same truck only difference was it was 2023 was $75,000 so I decided go with just an XLT Sport without the FX4 and had the 3.5l ecoboost and 3.55 gears which my previous truck was the 5.0l and 3.73 gears and still cost $72,000. I looked at other trucks like the 2023 Ram rebel similar to the 2019 I had before and pretty much the same options as before was $91 or $92,000 and that's before tax and with 6.89% interest which is insane. 1/2 ton trucks aren't worth this kinda money.
@cbruno12180
@cbruno12180 Месяц назад
It’s just insane you should be able to get a nice crew cab with decent features for 52-55k
@billk8909
@billk8909 Месяц назад
I got well over 30% off MSRP on a Sierra Elevation on the last day of Q1... that was the most I'd be willing to pay for a new Truck since the MSRPs are so overinflated.
@sabastian4858
@sabastian4858 Месяц назад
So you only overpaid by 20%?
@billk8909
@billk8909 Месяц назад
@@sabastian4858 Pretty much. It's so crazy how much they hiked the $$$
@Valentino50541
@Valentino50541 Месяц назад
And your not mentioning government telling these companies that they have to meet a certain efficiency. Get government out of private companies business. Our business.
@kc4cvh
@kc4cvh 17 дней назад
I can remember when the Extended Cab was an (expensive) option. Does any automaker still sell a Standard Cab pickup truck? Two wheel drive? An eight-foot bed? Most of the trucks I see today are actually luxury cars with a tiny cargo bed stuck on the back so it can be called a pickup truck.
@bmwg35
@bmwg35 Месяц назад
70k for a Truck worth 40k was never going to last
@desmondjefferson2127
@desmondjefferson2127 Месяц назад
My brother had to ARGUE with Ford for battery and electric in a 22 Ranger. It was under warranty, yet they still argue. I reminded him, to never buy American 😂🤣
@DonCurrier
@DonCurrier Месяц назад
I'll never buy a new truck again until prices come down to 40K for a quad cab, long bed, tow package with good options
@gixxingthecommute3410
@gixxingthecommute3410 Месяц назад
100% agree with Ray's early comments - I'm shocked it took this long to get to this point.
@MrRussbo84
@MrRussbo84 26 дней назад
People are crazy to pay for these truck! It's insane!
@farmninja6653
@farmninja6653 Месяц назад
I bought an old high mileage 2000 Silverado a couple years ago. It’s cheaper to fix it than to buy a new one.
@knmay7976
@knmay7976 Месяц назад
Prices went up, quality went down. Not sure how they thought that would be sustainable
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 Месяц назад
That's true even for Toyota. Prices of their trucks were creeping up even with the 3rd generation Tacoma despite terrible reliability issues and quality control failures. They raised the price of the new Tundra and Tacoma by $20k across the board, but the quality of the new Tundra has been awful. Glaring design issues including big gaps in trip pieces that allow water to collect inside the doors, and serious issues with the new turbocharged engine that is causing them to fail catastrophically. The new Tacoma launched and a lot of buyers are angry at Toyota for adding $20k to the price of every trim level and for adding a totally new engine that they don't trust to be reliable like the engines Toyota built 20 years ago.
@keithfaulkner6319
@keithfaulkner6319 Месяц назад
The bean counters that run things don't live in the real world.
@eddiehuff7366
@eddiehuff7366 Месяц назад
Here's what I want and nobody has one. Short bed, SINGLE CAB, V8 auto with ONLY a radio and hand roll windows. ... oh yeah, RED please.
@albertadams2095
@albertadams2095 Месяц назад
“My” F-150 costs me less than $100 a year. The only minor issue it has are the big Lowe’s decals 😌
@jae7532
@jae7532 Месяц назад
Watching this while getting a notification that Ford is recalling nearly 43,000 small SUVs. 💀 Apparently gas can leak from the fuel injectors onto hot engine surfaces, obviously increasing the risk of a fire. The recall supposedly covers certain Bronco Sport SUVs from the 2022 and 2023 model years, as well as Escape SUVs from 2022 (All have 1.5-liter engines). “Fuel injectors can crack, and gasoline or vapor can accumulate near ignition sources, possibly touching off fires.” -Ford
@Mr_Spock512
@Mr_Spock512 Месяц назад
Fix Or Repair Daily ... it was true back then and it's still true today. I'll never understand why people still buy their crap.
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 Месяц назад
@@Mr_Spock512 I say the same thing about Toyota's newest trucks. Plagued with engine failures and transmission issues, yet consumers jump right into a new one because they believe the hype.
@rogerrussell9544
@rogerrussell9544 Месяц назад
I've had my Ram Classic for 4 years, the last one without the hybrid garbage. I will hang on to it instead of buying something else.
@cormaro1376
@cormaro1376 Месяц назад
U hope 😂 those lifters say otherwise
@rogerrussell9544
@rogerrussell9544 Месяц назад
@@cormaro1376 The Hemi tick is a real thing. But I have the 3.6. I won't let it overheat, that's the weak spot in the V6 with all the plastic and aluminum components.
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 Месяц назад
@@cormaro1376 There are two ways lifters fail. The first is excessive idling (the most common cause of Hemi lifter failures). The second is waiting too long to change the engine oil, particularly when the vehicle is used for a lot of short trips in the winter, which is what causing GM's AFM lifters to fail. People these days buy into the "it's full synthetic it's good for 10k miles!" That oil should be changed by 5k. 3000 miles if it's used for short trips in very cold weather.
@sabastian4858
@sabastian4858 Месяц назад
Not if its a DOD motor you won't. They're junk.
@rogerrussell9544
@rogerrussell9544 Месяц назад
@@sabastian4858 It has the 3.6 Pentastar, my 4th 3.6 in various Chrysler products. With regular maintenance I have had very good service from them. The 5.7 Hemi developed the 'hemi tick' but the V6 has been bullet proof for me. I wouldn't want one with the hybrid system of course.
@brucebissell7626
@brucebissell7626 Месяц назад
YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME. THANKS. GOD BLESS YA.
@sidewinderdesigns8889
@sidewinderdesigns8889 Месяц назад
One thing they could do is get rid of the TV screens and all the electronic crap that nobody really needs and that would cut the cost by probably 25 to 30%.. When I'm in my vehicle I don't care if it's a Ford Mustang Chevy Camaro or a worktruck I'm not in there to watch TV I'm in there to drive.
@MrCPPG
@MrCPPG Месяц назад
Unacceptable prices. Keeping my 22yr old Gen 3 Ram. These ripoff prices make getting it repaired is my best bet. They can go bankrupt for all I care.
@Christofear-
@Christofear- Месяц назад
That's nuts. I just bought a brand new 2023 5.7 hemi ram 1500 on friday for 60k with taxes + interest included, but that's in CAD. USD that would come up to about 44k
@jkmarshall3553
@jkmarshall3553 Месяц назад
Nice
@jonathan.sullivan
@jonathan.sullivan Месяц назад
Guessing it's a BigHorn and not a Laramie
@sabastian4858
@sabastian4858 Месяц назад
2023 with lot rot. How many days has that truck been sitting in the weather? Flat spotted tires its not a new truck. The sun and weather severely damages/wears vehicles.
@MagicRichC
@MagicRichC Месяц назад
I have been monitoring the prices on Ram 1500 Limited and the trucks dropped around the 70k range, well the prices just went up 5k for the trucks I was monitoring.
@andthegreatcolddeathofthee1737
@andthegreatcolddeathofthee1737 12 дней назад
I bought my 2004 F150 Lariat which was the top of the line at that time for $41,000. It is now $70k+. Insane!
@Lee-qp6gf
@Lee-qp6gf Месяц назад
I can't believe they found so many morons to buy these trucks at all. Rams and Fords were popular because you could buy them at a lower price point than GM. This was several years ago. My company bought eight Fords at a time because you could get them so much lower. than Chev. I can't believe manufactures lost their way so fast.
@kmak4me
@kmak4me Месяц назад
I'm so lucky I got in under the wire! I bought a new 2018 F150 in Oct of 18 on sale. STX model, extended cab, 4x4, 2.7 ecoboost. Sticker was $43,700, sale price $31,604. And that, plus the BS other fees is what I paid. Still got out the door a tad under 36k!
@red5standingby419
@red5standingby419 Месяц назад
That pickup ain't gonna last forever. You're already 6 years into it.
@kmak4me
@kmak4me Месяц назад
Very true...but it only has 41k on it. So it'll be around for quite some time longer! The next one will be used for sure
@speeddemon0712
@speeddemon0712 Месяц назад
Sounds like my truck! 2016 F150 5.0, MSRP was $49k I paid $37k. Paid it off in 2020 and it only has 92k miles on it. The only issue I've had was the water pump went out at 83k miles. Took me and a buddy less than 2 hours in the garage to replace it. I have complete faith it'll go 200k+ easy so I'm set for a while.
@rumitcu
@rumitcu Месяц назад
I got my new 2016 F150 XLT 4x4 for $36k, which was $13k off the $49k MSRP. Back then, Ford, Chevy, and Ram were always offering $10k+ in incentives for the full size trucks and almost nothing for mid-size trucks, which meant the full size trucks cost the same (or even less) than the mid size. Now it would cost $65k MSRP for an equivalently spec'd F150 XLT, whereas a 2024 Ranger XLT is $45k. It sure seems that Americans were spending like crazy during and post pandemic to deal with their pandemic frustrations, which increased demand while there was limited supply. The automakers took advantage of this and decided to jack up prices as high as they could, because so many of us are hooked on our full size, super comfortable trucks. Like everyone is saying, they will keep charging those prices as long as people keep paying.
@rumitcu
@rumitcu Месяц назад
I should also mention that my F150 has been my favorite vehicle of all time, but now I have low cylinder pressure which is costing me at least $2k and if that doesn't work, then it's $10k for a new engine. Spending $10k on a replacement engine for an 8 year old vehicle with 82k miles seems crazy until you look at the alternatives. Based on this channel (and my desire to not accrue sizable debt), it simply doesn't make sense to be either a new or a used full size pickup right now. Fingers crossed that the $2k repair will be sufficient...
@Adam-S-Hacker
@Adam-S-Hacker Месяц назад
Going to keep rocking my manual '92 Ford Ranger STX 4x4.
@Velocity4000Outdoors
@Velocity4000Outdoors Месяц назад
I work for a supplier of parts for the big 3, and we are so slow that we are some weeks only working 4 days.
@iowahank1
@iowahank1 Месяц назад
Do I need a NEW vehicle? I'll bet most of the sales are wants rather than needs.
@Multimeter1
@Multimeter1 Месяц назад
Got my 2023 for 41,623$ out the door before sales taxes. Chevy Silverado LT 2023 4x4 with the new 13.4 inch screen (Big screen model) and 6 seats total. Sometimes you gotta just shop around.
@sabastian4858
@sabastian4858 Месяц назад
How is the quality?
@Multimeter1
@Multimeter1 Месяц назад
@@sabastian4858 Had some rattles on the dash, you got to pressure the dealership to do something about it repair wise or call chevy support to make them do it, other than that I like it. They act like they do not hear anything.
@fixinggrace
@fixinggrace 29 дней назад
I actually got rid of my Ram 1500 a month ago. The truck, but it was getting expensive, parts were breaking left and right and the lease was up.
@brianmillican4985
@brianmillican4985 Месяц назад
Where i live in rural north central texas on I 20. The lots for the most part are still empty. One or two half ton truck. Lots of 2500 and 3500 work trucks.
@westrm2010
@westrm2010 Месяц назад
Did the automaker executives really think they could mostly sell higher end trim models during the highest interest rates seen in decades? The management teams at the big three should have their compensation contracts voided, and they should all be fired for this current situation and for not anticipated the EV migration. Funny how every single Tesla vehicle sells and inventory on hand has the least amount of days in stock relative to the big three. Game, set and about to be match.
@robs8116
@robs8116 Месяц назад
The prices are way too high.
@bikesbees9392
@bikesbees9392 Месяц назад
We are travelling in Italy now. In 3 weeks not one full size pickup; 18 of 20 cars are Diesel engine and manual transmissions. There you go!!!
@RickyBobby615
@RickyBobby615 Месяц назад
Only new truck I purchased was 79 Chevy Silverado/350/350 auto air, $6500. Remember when they hit around $15000 in the 80's and thought that was crazy.
@BiggMJ
@BiggMJ Месяц назад
I like this one. Good quick and short. On your longer vids it would be easier to view if they were broken up in chapters.
@RobertJToledo
@RobertJToledo Месяц назад
Thank goodness I bought my used 2017 Honda Ridgeline in January 2020 for $15,999. Paid $17k out the door, cash. There's no way in hell I'm spending that kinda money on any vehicle. 😅
@sabastian4858
@sabastian4858 Месяц назад
You should buy a truck for your next vehicle. 😂
@NOR391
@NOR391 Месяц назад
Yeah that’s not a real truck!
@RobertJToledo
@RobertJToledo Месяц назад
@@NOR391 If it's got a bed, its a truck.
@NOR391
@NOR391 Месяц назад
lol you keep telling yourself that?!?
@kencichon8071
@kencichon8071 Месяц назад
My ordered 2019 Silverado was $54,233.16. Exact same ordered truck 2024 $67,000.00. F@#K that!
@markb8978
@markb8978 Месяц назад
The last new truck I bought was a 2004 Silverado extended cab work truck with a V6 for 18999.00 in early 2005.
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