Chin-Up vs Pull-Up 

ikr, it's borderline click bait

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Having followed "The Rip" for some time I can assure you, Bourbon.

How dare you assume this persons gender! I’m going to my safe space........

Mark Johnson It’s up there with “A-B-duction”

Srsly, there should be as many Men only Gyms as the other way around. No distractions, only getting stronger.

@@FH-pn1tm It's called prison. You might like it.

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AnInnocentLittleBoy That is the way of the gym, The Path of Iron.

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HYIP DRAAAV is the single most important exercise

I thought the exact opposite.

Ben Webster my point exactly

he's said it plenty of times, usually earlier videos

I’d blush too wtf ahaha

@RyanORourkelol that's not nice

I think they are definitely some of the best ones to hear about.

That's kinda what I always thought too! Yeah, we don't deadlift with a supine grip. I'm a little skeptical.

Jason Gilliland maybe he was referring to training bicep brachii to balance out the brachialis with which we often use in all lifts as an elbow stabilizer?

Nam Nguyen I could buy that.

Nam Nguyen I agree with Rip for a few different reasons. Imo, training the biceps from a full stretch at the bottom (such as a dead hang chin) is useful for injury prevention during the deadlift; most people use the mixed grip as opposed to the hook grip, anyway. It also generally allows people to pull themselves through a greater range of motion, allows for more work to be done due to the biceps' contribution while still involving the lats and upper back as the primary movers, and let's face it-- most people in the gym want bigger arms, and chin-ups are great for that while still being more conducive to all around strength and athleticism than say, curls. You can't really go wrong with either one, but I feel chins are ever so slightly more useful.

"in all main lifts (deadlift, squat, press and bench press), the forearms are always in pronation, hence, the brachialis should be trained more than the biceps brachii." I don't think this is relevant. None of the main lifts train flexion of the elbow under load, so they don't train the biceps OR the brachialis. Pronation just happens to be the more natural way to secure the bar for the main lifts (the exception being a mixed DL grip).

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@Jake McCoy is right but I am going to add this thats because that's not even what he said. He said he doesn't see a point to doing pull ups over chin ups because chins recruit more muscle mass. Hes saying chins are better, not that pullups have no use.

Agreed, also pronated involves much more back muscles.

@@TheEnvelopeOZ only if you change your grip width and how much you flare your arms out. Otherwise, it's the same if you equate intensity. Try it. Put your arms up and go back and forth between supination and pronation. The humerus does not move in the shoulder socket.

SoullessPolack i’ll try that out, thanks

True. Since Rip goal is strenght this is why he makes the case in favor of chin ups vs pull ups since involve more muscle mass. Very interesting.

Yeah I have also noticed this when doing pull downs with a machine. I can feel some clicking and discomfort in my shoulders if the grip is too wide when using supinated grip for example. Also noticed the same thing with barbell rows.

I prefer the neutral grip also, feels stronger and safer for the bicep. Like the compound version of a hammer curl.

Pronated/overhand- Brachioradialis Neutral- Brachialis Supinated/underhand-Biceps

I did normal rows at first, bent over so you keep the bar in your hand during the entire set and the bar was actually uncomfortable on my wrist, so I did underhand and did that ever since. Can row more underhand now and also do more chin ups than pull ups. I could do normal rows with ez bar now which solves wrist problem but I'm already rusted in my current program

Chin up = more weight can be lifted. Simple as that

Ya, but harder on the elbows. Pick your poison, switch if either one begins to cause problems.

Their is no difference in lat activation on chinup vs pull up. The only difference is the use of bicep.

Wrong.

I guess that would be kinda like a hammer curl and hit the brachialis.

Neutrals are the easiest out of all three

@@ItsRaitisLV thats why I love them lol

@@grizzlymanverneteil4443 they are the best indeed

Yeah and while your at it you may as well do a body building split to hit each muscle cause god knows compounds dont get you strong.

Chin ups hit more of the biceps brachii while pull ups hit more of the brachioradialis.

What is your stance on the use of the smith machine for reverse grip floor presses?

MANUEL CANO chin for bi and lat... pull for lay and delts

Do both? Blasphemy!

There is some back in there too, but ya, he didn't convince me.

Nah chin/pull up is shoulder extension/flexion as well as elbow flexion/extension. Curls are elbow flexion/extension, no shoulder at all - no lat contraction.

The right answer

Ditto. But I guess in fairness he hits lats with bent rows. What I dislike is that he comes across like there's only one way to get the job done.

Cooper Carr Bro so many ppl taking this wrong way he's saying for begginers chin ups would be easier to do and work more musculature overall while it's true pull ups are harder and obviously when you get stronger you do them and other variants later.

mnikhk, you seem to be reading too much into what you think Rip means. The video title is Chin-Up vs Pull-Up, not which is easier for most people or which is the better biceps exercise. The content did not match the video title and did little to compare the two. This was do chip ups for your biceps video.

@@mnikhk he said nothing about beginners having an easier time. He said chinups work the biceps and pullups don't, which so obviously wrong he should be embarrassed.

His argument is that chin ups do exactly what pull-ups do, and they also train your biceps. So they are better.

papageorgio123123 yes,he's saying chinups are better for most begginers obviously you do all sorts of variation later on

Chin-ups are more of a total upper body exercise, it's primarily hitting the back too. You can get slightly more chin-ups, than pull-ups, because the biceps are assisting, but it doesn't mean that chin-up wouldn't be an effective upper back exercise. It's like... deadlift works on your legs too and not just your back, so you shouldn't deadlift?

@@shredd5705 It's not a slight difference. I can do almost 2x as many chinups as pullups. With chin-ups your biceps fatigue before your lats, and vice versa for pullups. So chin-ups on their own own will never be as good of a lat exercise as a pullup. Again, why wouldn't you do both? I usually do 4 full sets of pullups to fatigue, then 4 partial sets of chinups to fatigue (even though my lats are dead from the pullups, my biceps are still fresh and can take over most of the work)

www.t-nation.com/training/pull-ups-vs-chin-ups "What does the research say? Pulling variations hit the lats virtually the same. Two research teams examined muscle activation during pull-up variations. One looked at four different vertical pulling variations. Two of those variations were a pull-up (pronated) and a neutral-grip towel pull-up. They found that lat activity was nearly the same in both variations. Another study compared three types of pull-ups: the standard overhand-grip pull-up, the chin-up, and the "perfect" pull-up (using pull-up handles that rotate). *The amount of lat activity was virtually the same during all three movements.* " I can get pretty similar amount of bodyweight pullups (12) and chinups (16). It all depends on the grip width too. There was a time in my life when I did only chin-ups for about a year (because the military required those, and tested only those) and my back grew much wider.. now I do both, but if I'd have to choose one, it would be chinups because it's more complete compound exercise. Pullup is more isolation

​@@shredd5705 I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm not making an argument about which exercise activates which muscle more. While your lats are equally activated on both exercises, they (along with your traps) take a heavier load with the pullup because the biceps are less involved. (If that's not true then why are they harder?) You're correct that chinups are a more complete compound movement, but nonetheless, pullups will grow your back better than chinups precisely because of that fact. Again, my whole argument is that you should do both, because both are S-tier exercises. I see no reason not to.

Chin ups will give the same back gains as a pull up, I would argue maybe even slightly more because of the stretch on the lats. Doing both isn’t really necessary.

In my "non-expert" opinion, restarting from the bottom will require and build more strength. If your goal is hypertrophy only, you could do a partial rom.

Because an OHP is front delt dominant

Genetics?

Simon Baker-Ostiguy because he probably he needs to lower his body fat so they can show up.

hes fat

Because he’s natty

Pull-ups has more real life application. I also noticed my elbows do not enjoy chin ups on straight bars. Pull-ups seem to increase grip and forearm strength and obviously upper-back.

What's wrong with sore muscles after exercise?

woopengyeng Because the elbows aren’t a muscle

David Perkins No one said it was. He literally asked about sore muscles.

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@ literally a mad lad

You'll make more gains since you can do a quarter squat on every rep

You mean exactly like the guy who just demonstrated it in this video for you?....

L sit pull ups.

Everyone seems to think that you have to keep constant tension on the muscle for pull/chin ups while they don't apply the same logic for all the other compound lifts. There's nothing wrong with setting your feet down between every rep and resetting each time, just as you do with the deadlift, and every other main lift you still lock out between reps. It's not cheating if it's strength you're trying to build. By reseting between each pull/chin up you'll find over time you can use more and more weight, which is for me is far more important for strength than TUT but hey thats just me.

​@@djtim06 Holding on the entire time builds grip strength / endurance

there's a video of him repping 315 on barbell rows... supinated... on this channel

That is true, for your elbows. But not your biceps.

ACRX SLS you want to build biceps, do a curl.

The intensity however, is changed. Pullups are harder.

Moss 590A1 more bicep