China Wants Its Own Starship 

I love watching the China space news from you, because is hard to get information about China from other channels so this way I'm very informed about all of the nations development

Thanks for the continued updates on these Long March rockets. Feels good to be kept in the loop.

Hello Dongfang, I am your Chinese fan. I am a space enthusiast. I come from Chengdu, Sichuan Province, and I really like your video. It's great to see you explain China Aerospace. Thank you

I love these videos. It is sometimes hard to tell, which Chinese new rocket concept are actively under development, and which are just ideas. As far as learning from SpaceX, there is nothing wrong with following a successful trend. China would still have to develop their own engines and rocket architecture but if the basic concepts work for SpaceX, then at least the direction of development is clearer.

Starship is the equivalent of trains for mankind's space travel. It allows us to move a massive amount of cargo into LEO. With starships, building large projects in LEO, such as a space factory or a solar station in LEO, will become possible. But it looks like the US will be the first country to utilize "space trains" since I believe SpaceX's Starship should be fully matured before 2033s. And the US could definitely monopolize the "space train" business.

Awesome and informative. Good job.

Spending more and more in space technology means saving humanity, winning every war on the ground,creating a multipolar world and maintaining peace and balance in the world's order.

Great channel to hear about the latest development of Chinese space program. Specially love the comparison data and clear explanations. Keep at the good work

China's space development is getting very exciting. Excellent info and keep up the good work. 👍❤️🇨🇳

Dongfang Hour videos are the reason I wake up ❤

Long march 9 is really a trainwreck rn, they've been talking about it for 10+ years and now they say they'll change anything and it'll be ready to launch in 10+ years

Great summary and assessment.

非常好的科普！在中文互联网上有一句话叫做“摸着鹰酱过河”, which means we are good at following USA's experiences to make further progress. Thanks for your video! Meanwhile, why not also update your videos on bilibili, a Chinese video platform popular among Chinese young people? Chinese fans will love that.

It must be god level to be able to explain in English effortlessly the rocket science technical terms written in Mandarin

Thanks for the video

Thank you !

Thank you.

I love your video ❤thank you for sharing

long March represent：长征（changzheng）

I have more hope for Teng Yun project, if they can achieve TSTO then it would really be groundbreaking for space exploration

Elon Musk: Copy Wechat CNSA: Copy Starship

They should, we need more competition. It'll only make us better.

Yes! Love the content! Keep em coming!!!

Yes this is awesome! Good job!

Their is also one other difference here Starship exists LM9 is currebtly vapourware...

There's a minor typo in the title (its not it's). Super vidéo sinon, comme d'hab :-)

China cannot get a metal ox engine working not to mention guidance China is 50 years behind😂

Gather 'round, children. It's time for another Long March 9 from Grandpa Long.

I really hope China succeeds in becoming a serious competitor to the US in spaceflight milestones. The spirit of competition is a key motivator and without it, space flight will certainly be delayed. Sometimes I think it would be best if China beats the US to the moon in the coming years, just to kick ourselves into high gear.

🙂Thank you for your informative updates

Its an "EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE" project..actually no. It costs peanuts compared to other spending by first world nations. Whole Starship project costs

I find it hard to believe the YF-130 will be mothballed and China would cede reusable superheavy launch capability to the US for 20 years. I'm not so much concerned with deep space exploration as I am with putting up *mass* into LEO. I expect there to be intermediate variants of the Long March 9 before the final form discussed here, perhaps with a single-chamber variant of the YF-130. An ORSC kerolox engine is not as reusable as a FFSC methalox engine, but it's still more than adequate.

谢谢你的介绍帮助外国了解中国航天，希望航天继续发展

Wow!

If China achieves heavy lift capabilities then a good chunk of the global south would be able to get stuff into space. That's a win if you ask me

Excellent coverage. Love the style and format your present content. Very interesting and easy to follow. The Long March 9 first stage booster is the interesting component, particularly motor development. All the other stage options for the LM9 concept will evolve as the global space race and China's strategy, plans evolve. The Long March 10 is destined to support China's lunar, and crewed lunar missions. Having a reusable booster is key to economically increasing mass lift capability to LEO. The ability to lift significant mass to LEO is key for anything basic robotic missions beyond LEO. In mid-2023 what is significant is the number of new rocket designs experiencing delays. ESA's Ariane 6 is delayed, as is ULA Vulcan, and a number of other smaller rockets. Japan's H3 rocket experienced an upper stage failure on its maiden launch, as did Zhuque-2 (MethLOX). Only mentioning, as this demonstrates how hard it is to get new launch vehicles to the operational stage. Note, no MethLOX fuelled booster has yet to launch a payload to LEO. The next 5 years are going to be very exciting in terms of new launch vehicles, from many providers within China and from around the globe.

Catching up and checking on since new logo lunched

我猜又是龙乐豪的ppt，他的ppt修改的次数太多了，有时候像sls，有时候像重型猎鹰，在过去的十年中他的cz-9ppt每年都会修改一次，火箭构型，发动机都大变一番，我十分怀疑cnsa到底有没有cz-9豪的计划。

3:42 That's a straight up New Glenn booster with Starship upper stage. Why do they need to copy 80-90 percent tho. They can just develop and model their own designs since they have the ccp government budget.

wonder how they are going to recover this!

I love your non-bias pure science technology based news!

Trying to achieve what Spacex achieved with reusable rockets needs SpaceX risk taking mindset and culture. Can a centralised culture, one that prioritises control, adopt that?

One thing is certain. If Long March 9 is successful, and China uses it to go to the moon, they will not use a separate vehicle to ferry taikonauts to lunar orbit and then have them board Long March 9 upper stage just before descent on to the moon, like NASA is planning.

NZ 🇳🇿

I don't think it is an offically announce. It is just a proposal at least for this moment. It hasn't been approved and granted financially.

I am really amazed by your capability of mandarin speaking, though I learned that you were in Taiwan when you were very young in the interview with that girl in Florida. you attended the Taiwan local school or the famous Taipei American school? By the way you should be able to drawing more first tier Chinese college students.

3:40 looks more like half starship, half blue origin rocket :v

They need to walk before they can run. They at least 10-20 years behind when it comes to this heavy lift capability and reusability in general.

This configuration incurred a lots of Chineses’ blaming, because they just thought the Longmarch 9 is a simple copy of starship And how can a country copy a company’s design!? I hope the final configuration is not the same as starship

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我一直觉得，目前的运力来说，只需要把4个猎鹰重刑捆绑到一起做助推器就差不多了，回收又成熟。

why they keep changing design of long march 9? Not a good sign

Why would anyone want to build a modern day version of Soviet union N1 is insane,the multiple rocket engines will always lead to faliure

A major point behind the design of Starship is that it will (eventually) be refueled on Mars. Mars has CO2 and H2O, so CH4 and O2 can be manufactured using solar or nuclear power. Musk needed to design Methalox engines for the ship and decided to use them on the booster as well. China has no need to copy Starship. Design a better battery for Teslas and do a deal!

The plan for the Long March 9 may not be realized until 2035, and Musk's starships have basically surpassed the world by ten years. In fact, China may imitate starships for research and development, which is safer and more convenient. Therefore, the 2030 lunar program will use old technologies and wait until 2035 to switch to the new Long March 9

Here we go.😂

Oh yea… this definitely helps showcase China doesn’t copy things still lol

China won’t develop it because the US hasn’t yet😂😂😂😂

I wonder if the Chinese version will be able to survive 4 flips at hypersonic speed like the original.

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was there anything about orbital refueling as it's a big selling point for superheavy?

It just happens to go down the space x path.

Lol they seen the last lunch of starship and super heavy… what made them want it so bad was somersaults! Yes I understand the last lunch what is an achievement of its self! Any amount of data spaceX was able to gather was amazing

2040 for the chinese starship is way too late.

We are getting "yi long mu" at this one the clone of elon musk in china

If China able build moon base china more able to explore others planetary

Nice

Ctrl+C , Ctrl+V. What they do best? Even with the starship design😂

I like how China doesn’t have the ability to do anything unless someone has done it before

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Its own starship? I thought, they are ousted from international starship programs.

Chinese are extremely pragmatic and brutally efficient. We shall see how Chinese taikonuts land on the moon first this time.

CNSA is waiting for Elon's success on Starship bcz it will be a significant signal that Starship is technically realizable. Elon's exploration of starship technology will save the CNSA a lot of money as well as the time for demonstration.

NIMROD came closer than anyone and GOD said NO!

Well i think spacex has different mission than China. Spacex want to go to mars with starship. Cbina on the other hand is not in a hurry to get to mars. Their man focus is the moon so they dont need a super heavy rocket like star ship.

Elon Musk has inspired so much… all these rocket trends countries and companies are busy following

At present, only China and the United States have a clear mission to land on the moon, and they also have the demand for heavy-duty rockets. The United States is clearly ahead, which is understandable. You must know that when the United States and the Soviet Union were competing to land on the moon, we were still building our own initial aerospace business. Even 30 years ago, if you went back to that time and asked a Chinese that China could compete with the United States to land on the moon in the future, everyone would laugh at you as a lunatic. But now China's Chang'e Project and the Artemis Project in the United States are often compared, even though the specific goals of the two projects are not the same. The similarity of appearance does not mean copying and pasting. For example, do they use the same engine in the core, or do they use the same engine in the methane engine? The appearance of ordinary cars is similar, and they all use gasoline. Is that the same? It can only be said that if we pursue the same concept, then convergent evolution is also of course, let alone the United States, which is undoubtedly a pioneer in this field. Although China has made rapid progress in recent years, it is clearly still a latecomer. In addition, Chinese officials are often lazy to use ready-made materials when making PPT, which is also often complained about by Chinese space enthusiasts. So I wouldn't be surprised if the future design of CZ-9 changes again. It has not been finalized yet

SpaceX Space ship Is more pointy they are the winners 🏆

china has the global south's super heavy lift market

What Chinese starship 🤣🇺🇸

I love watching the China space new

Just another nock off of some one else's Technology !

Anyone can 3D print a Ship...

I wish we (America) could have something to ourselves without our stuff being copied or stolen it’s our fault though we release blueprints on half the stuff we make

can't wait to see all countries flying all these reusable rockets evreywhere.

China as a nation has 100x the drive the west does for space exploration, when (because they WILL) when they have the LM9 flying they will have a massive advantage over the west and could start work on bases around Shackleton rim and a manned mars flyby before 2030

The only thing not copied is Elon time. Hopefully China will beat their scheduled timeline. I still think the ideal solution is taking full advantage of reusable side boosters.

if all countries cooperated we would be in other galaxies by now.

As long as it doesn't blow up upon the first flight, then they already beat Space X IMO.

China should buy the NASA :D

We will only believe Elon if/when his rockets actually succeeds! We do hope that Elon do succeed.

China great making of duongfeng rocket to space ship on moon. Very powerful engine engineering to moon. Science knowledge

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I don’t think it’s wise to build like starship, weather always change which cost more for many faults. I still like space shuttle ship which come back and land like airplanes. Space shuttle was designed by greater engineering people. I am sure people in China can dynamic design space shuttle with foreigners join team not need to follow starship.

It's amazing how far ahead the private SpaceX is, NASA only just test flew is massive;y expensive SLS rocket, which in my view is already obsolete, Only those that copy or develop nuclear powered rockets will have any future. All the best to China and also USA's DARPA for at least trying.

How do you get access to RU-vid from China? Isn't it bad or illegal or You get privileged access compared to?ordinary Chinese

Like Elon said “if someone is stupid enough to copy this design let them” 😂

ahahah😂😂😂😂 good luck

No original idea since gunpowder.

Their progress all depends on how much information they can steal from Tesla.