Chinese Phoenix VS Western Phoenix: What's the Difference? 

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My grandpa's name has Long (dragon) as one of its characters and my grandma's name has Feng (Phoenix) which I think is pretty romantic.

There should have at least have an honorary mention of the myths where there's a pair of Fenghuangs that turn into a pair of flame wheels for Nezha. It's not "being set on fire" but there's some connection there.

A few years ago, Disney's live action remake of Mula caused a packlash when the movie featured a Western Greek-Egyptian Phoenix instead of Fenghuang. Therefore, it would been worthwhile for the filmmakers to learn what the difference between these two birds is, especially when in the film the Phoenix is ​​said to be reborn from fire, which is a thing that Fenghuang doesn't do.

Even what Herodotus wrote about the phoenix and egypt is a variant. When you want. To get specific and accurate, look up the word. Bennu. That is the original Phoenix of Egypt.

The phoenixes in Shangchi are not phoenixes I think. They are 朱雀 （zhu que）， which is also a Chinese mythological bird, but it's constant on fire just like a phoenix.

oh wow that's so refreshing to see the two phoenixes clearly distinguished. thank you!

To add to the "鳳" losing its original meaning of "male 鳳凰", the female of a pair of boy-girl twins is known as "鳳". The pair is known as "龍鳳胎".

In the Philippines, malaysia & Indonesa ...we had a Sacred bird similar to Pheonix its called "Sarimanok" ❤‍🔥🔥🐦 its represent good fortune its like A jungle fowl (NAtive Chicken) but its big & has colorful fiery feathers

1:58 this needs to come back worldwide but for a different reason.

also Western phoenix makes their nest atop Date Palms while the Asian Phoenix makes their nest in Cherry trees and specifically their nest out of cherry blossoms. Western associated with date palms and myrrh while asian associated with cherry trees

Love this channel. Thank you for the knowledge 🙏

Although the fenghuang originally did not immolate (as stated in the video), the ideas associated with the Egyptian phoenix were subsequently introduced into China and added to the myth of the fenghuang. This led to the term "凤凰涅槃", in which the fenghuang self-immolates every 500 years in exchange for humankind's peace and happiness. Correspondingly, there arose the proverb (成语) known as "浴火重生", which literally means to be reborn after bathing in fire. It describes a person going through various challenges and suffering from pain before emerging stronger and better.

Interesting thanks

today might be a rather busy day, but this was a nice video to stop and enjoy. thank you for the content :) take care

The way he speak chinese is beautiful

Thank you, it was interesting.

Thank you for sharing 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤🕊️🕊️🕊️🙏🙏🙏

doesn't the four auspicious beasts have the white tiger instead of the qilin and that there was also a fifth beast that was either the golden dragon or the qilin?

Wow! Your Chinese is really good! Where are you from?

Keep it up

Very good program, besides the tea, where to get the version of the book "Shan Hai Jing" showing in the program please?

In Peranakan culture, we who are of mixed south-east Asian and Chinese ancestry have the phoenix as our symbol

There are two other similar mythical birds in Asia. One is called Huma. A terminology related to it is 'Zil e Huma', the shadow of Huma, and it say that the one who comes under Zil e Huma, gets to rule. Another such mythological bird is See murgh. Its from Iranian culture. They say it sits on the mountains and has one of its eyes on the past and the other, on the future.

Did you purposefully put the east on the left and west on the right?

This very Chinese New Year is popularly promoted as the Year of the Loong (or 'Long' in standard Pinyin but it would easily be confused with its English meaning, i. e. the opposite of 'short') instead of the traditional Year of the year Dragon by the Chinese government.

Omg this was what I wrote in my HS essay about 30+ years ago😂it it was comparisons of western and eastern dragons

well in D&D we have the different dragons, and the Asian dragons are called Lung Dragons. :) so it might spread calling them the different names.

4:15 FUN FACT: Those are the exact virtures represented in the Japanese anime series "Six Hearts Princess".

We should let them fight

Both phoenix have beautiful plumage and feathers... 😊.

The Western Phoenix actually originated more around in Egypt and India regions so it's not really Western as such and it blended with the Asian Feng and such much earlier on than you think. It's why Asian media have adapted the fire bird aspect that can resurrect in their fantasy novels, films, comics, and such. It's actually more likely for a Western person than an Asian to point out that ancient Chinese phoenix didn't have those traits. Particularly the reborn from the ashes one.

I visited Taiwan last month and i enjoyed so much. I was able to visit most of the island for 3 weeks and one of the things i brought back home is a lot of Tea, including that Alishan oolong tea. i was surprised when i saw it now in this video! Thanks for making all this videos . XieXie

Please do Chinese poems again

And dragon is Ching lai in meitei lon

The part about the Qilin caught me by surprise. I always thought it was a White tiger

What about Suzaku? They are often confused with Fenghuang, but they are different beings. Suzaku seems to be associated very strongly with the sun, just like Phoenix, and much more so then Fenghuang. I would argue that there is a strong case of them being highly conflated with each other, yet are different.

I feel both phoenixes are somewhat related to each other like share with common ancestor one liniage went west and evolved to be reborn in a burst of fire and the other went east and evolved to what it is in chinise myth

Can you explain the difference between Chinese phoenix and the Chinese vermillion bird? I always get them confused.

WOw thank you for putting in the chinese original text as well, and for pronouncing the words correctly. I can't help but cringe every time I hear incorrect pronounciations on other videos, so its great to not have to cringe here haha Thank you!

Looking like Peacock

Chinese Phoenix VS Western Phoenix: Which would win in a fight? That's what I want to know. (Almost nailed the 'tweeks coffee' patter for the 'oolong tea' segment). Ta.

Oog long tea ❤

I once worked an Air Force project for Taiwan. Its title: Peace Feng Huang🇹🇼

Female phoenix? I understood that reference (Ozai, ATLA)

There is also the Egyptian phoenix aka east

视频有个地方错了（Something is wrong in the video），山海经上是（in shan hai jing)：翼文曰顺，背文曰义，而你写的是（but in the viedo)：翼文曰义，背文曰礼。

I dont know why no one talks about this but I always pictured the first sighting of a rare pokemon in the first episode to be a representation of phoenix. Don't know maybe it's something else. 🤷

Japanese Phoenix name: Ho-oh 😁

The Chinese dragon being called "long" is one of the funnier coincidences that I know of.

To be honest, I personally think that the vermillion bird should have been referred to as the Chinese pheonix. At leat it is has a fire motif.

Where's the tea link...?

Little knowledge。。。《鶡冠子·度萬第八》：「鳳凰者，鶉火之禽，陽之精也。」 《白虎通》祝融“其精为鸟，离为鸾。” 《春秋演孔图》：“凤凰火精，生丹穴。” 《春秋元命苞》说：“火离为凤。” 鳳凰頂有丹朱，丹朱在古漢語中意味太陽。。 In terms of cultural origin, the Chinese Phoenix also has its origins as the Firebird and the Sunbird. . There is just no resurrection legend.

Phoenix was one of the resemblances of Ibong Adarna in the Philippines!!!

the four directional sacred beasts are a bit inaccurate. they should be azure long, white tiger, zhu que (fire bird), xuan wu (tortoise with a snake tail as its tail)

Working on my own fantasy world that includes one country and its people worshipping a Phoenix. I would say it's a mixture of the Greek Phoenix and the Egyptian one and a small bit of the Russian Firebird.

The Western version is a wonderful wonderful cat.

So the fenghuang and the veridian bird are two different creatures?

@Learn Chinese Now When I was studying the concept of the Phoenix and Chinese 中文 in college, I noticed similarities between the words for Phoenix, Wind, and Fire when it comes to the Chinese Phoenix, or is it Chinese Phoenixes...? Feng or 風 Fēng in Chinese means "wind." Huo or 火 Huǒ in Chinese means "fire." So, even though there's no such thing as Fēnghuǒ 風火 in Chinese; can we so easily dismiss the phonetics and the meanings of the words they represent and how similar those words are in concept to the Western Phoenix? Also, Fenghuang is not the only "Chinese Phoenix." 朱雀 Zhūquè or The Vermillion Bird is actually one of the 四象 Sì xiàng; along with Azure Dragon (青龍 Qīnglóng), White Tiger (白虎 Báihǔ), and Black Tortoise (玄武 Xuánwǔ). In the movie 畫皮II or Painted Skin 2: The Resurrection, Yang Mi 杨幂 portrays the Yaoguai or Demon Bird named Quer, and in the movie (SPOILERS) she is portrayed similarly to both a western and eastern phoenix; though, I think her version is more of a 朱雀 Zhūquè not 鳳凰 Fènghuáng.

I've been collecting the South Korean mint's series of phoenix coins. Very pretty.

Where is the Vermilion Bird/朱雀?

We call pheonix as Mei Gi U chek

Yo mandarin enounciation is v good! 👏👍

Actually both the Phoenix and the Dragon are ancient Persian deities which were spread all over Eurasia by the Indo-Europeans among countless other cultural similarities between east and west that otherwise have no explanation, so in a way, they’re both the same “species”

the thumbnail in this video is a crime against humanity.

Are the Chinese Phoenixes the same as Vermilion Birds?

❓ “Flower Bridge” meme… is that real? ❤ EXCELLENT summary of Phoenix.

There's also two types of Persian phoenix called "Simorgh" and "Huma."

IT have several magic birds in China and in whole Asia it's like an country animal represents in Korea

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Jiangshir are not like western vampires, but they are often just called chinese vampires, so i think specifying between western and Chinese is sufficient. I also don't want to be asked to translate things when people learn i know a few mandarin words, so i won't be calling them FengHuang any time soon.

The Phoenix one of the coolest birds in myth ever and Pokémon

The setting of the Phoenix Order's burning and rebirth was introduced from the West in the early 20st century, and is now often confused with the traditional image of the phoenix.

So Feng Huangs don't have any connections to fire and the sun. Every single Chinese novels i read paint them as fire/sun birds and the authors always use them as the yin in the phoenix and dragon pairing.

The cardinal direction bird is called Suzaku , it’s breed is consider bird of vermillion and it’s not a phoenix . 鳯凰 is actually titles of king and queen of the birds of vermillion . It’s facts! That I didn’t look .

2:02 I thought you had the "wang" wrong, but then I realised it's actually the 望 from 希望, which is the word for hope. And 子 comes from 儿子 (son). It really seemed likely to me that princesses and princes would turn into these godly creatures in Chinese mythology, so I thought you're intending to say 王子 and 王女 lol I was wondering where you get the "hope" part lol I almost made a fool of myself but I saved it at the last second. You're even a Chinese teaching channel ffs I'm so dumb 😂

i wonder if parrots were mistaken for phoenix and went extinct

Fenghuang isn't Vermilion bird tho

Google 'Onagadori' It's a breed of chicken where they have focused on the males. They have tails that are so long, they require special care. Inspired by the Phoenix ❤

I have a feeling that Chinese phoenix is just a peacock..

poenix the rome secret gold eagle bird no one talking about

Ho-oh!

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Thanks. It's really impressive 👍. Actually, I'm interested in these topics and wanna know much about it 🌸. But, after reading the below comments..... I think "The real Chinese Phoenix" is not describing well. Anyway, I'm impressed.

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But... isn't the Vermillion Bird the Chinese Phoenix??

Its Time that the Chinese Name be used because the 龙 and 凤凰 are Not the Same as The Western Dragon and Western Phoenix respectively because they are Distinctively Different.

Western Phoenix is so op, able to manipulate matter and have the mutation of telepathy along with the combination of telekinesis, took a husband that shoots optic laser, and kissed a wolverine. While eastern phoenix is just a burning chicken.

🙏🏼💖✨

In meitei lon

So, only the Western one is “Fire and life incarnate”? (Shout out to X-Men fans).

I can’t believe you insulted the pheasant like that. Take it back. Apologise. 😢

Your explanation of phoenix or fenghuang are not complete without the real phoenix one dude. There is bird which lives in mollucas and papua called "Cenderawasih" (the bird of paradise). Ancient Javanese people used this birds as gift to chinese, middle east and european people (spain or portuguese) for smooth trading between them and javanese (i think it's majapahit or before majapahit). That's why the legend of phoenix comes, the javanese people very smart to make and tell fiction story until now.

First I wanted to give this a try but then I realized that it is from the same channel that did the last east vs. western dragon video that I had see and that one was so bad just thinking about it worsens my headache. So I will not give this any chance.

In "the legend of Shen Li" first episode there is a chicken-like-phoenix , highly funny, a womanized spiritual king 😃

Yes it’s the year of the loong. So fenghuang should replace phoenix

Strange..I couldn't hear a single voice while viewing the clip

American Ben?

The other was eaten.

The East is rising the West is burning setting.