Hope you had fun! Yu-Gi-Oh! is far from perfect, but thank you for allowing me to show your audience how wonderful the game can be under the right circumstances!
Hey, great video :D Just a small thing, but did you make a mistake by summoning Goyo? Your Tuner Blackwing - Blizzard the far north isn't an Earth Tuner, but a Darkness Tuner. Goyo requires a Earth Tuner. Other than that, really funny video :P
As someone who learned the game through MasterDuel [I only played Power Of Chaos + some Dx academy before MD] I enjoyed your Yugioh videos really much cuz You brought to light some of the major flaws of modern day yugioh specially new player experience in MD. I learned the game mostly solo & the only help I got was a friend explained the shop to me & adviced me to buy the Secret packs & the ones that guarantees you 1 hand trap, & managed to reach Master 1 in my 4 months endeavours (one of my motives to stick to the game was the fact that I like complicated & challenging games), I think modern Yugioh have an odd feeling to it, cuz the good games are really great experience but the games that are bad are absolutely awful (& l mean that both in winning or losing), so if u are willing to accept an auto win/defeat when someone have full combo & the other don't have disruption or board breakers, & enjoy the back & forth games that comes every couple of games only then you can really enjoy this game
I would recommend using yugioh omega for playing games like these. Essentially the same thing in it being a 3rd party client but it actually has some automation and in general works smoother
Seeing Alex explaining the damage step to rarran while fully knowing he is getting hit by kalut is the single greatest thing I've ever seen . This is giving great prog flashbacks
He’s one of the people unlearned the game from in 2019, Konami missed the mark not giving him a job or letting him be a spokesman. The man has endless reach in the community and has done more than he had to for the game he loves
@@chrismcdonald6079 truly, he is very good at approaching new players and introducing them to the mechanics and intricacies of what is actually required to play the game. Konami should take more advantage of teaming up with their community to make better products/ decisions like Sega does.
@@josemarioperozofuenmayor3475 yeah create a card was one time they gave us themes to vote on online and someone bought a few thousand bots to take it over I think community outreach is D.O.A. For the game because when they try everyone either screws it up or memes it into obscurity
This right here is how to properly introduce someone to Yugioh. Two friends, having fun, one with the knowledge and experience to help the friend and not get too competitive.
@@wilsonsanabia4259doesn't change the fact tho, meanwhole game like hearthstone and MTG arena can be learned by yourself well the answer is just like yoursefl the powercrept is way too far making tons of YGO mechanic become obsolete, stuff like set monster facedown, setting up trap, even battle phase no longer matter. Well YGO player love it so there is no solution for newbie to learn except asking help from coach and playin essentially different game at this point
@@waskithonugroho3955 it’s not that it doesn’t matter, but it doesn’t have as much impact. The only good trap strategy that is undeniably good in this format is labrynth
@@waskithonugroho3955 there's an element of online as well as for the TCG and OCG there isn't an equivalent to Magic's Standard since MTG has a ton of obsolete mechanics, banding, land walk, champion, and so on it's just those aren't needed to be known if you want to start the game since there's a way of playing without having to worry about it.
This is truly a wonderful format. I love how Rarran could instantly recognize the power of cards like Starlight Road, Mirror Force, Black Whirlwind, and Absolute Zero.
@@ehrenromblon5392isn't dino rabbit known for being the closest the game has ever been to dying due to the huge amount of people quitting and low amount of new players? That's certainly a weird choice for best yugioh format.
I'm so glad you got to try Yugioh this way. Edison format alone is a great game that you can spend years mastering but have fun with on your first try. It's a shame there's nothing like it in official spaces to make the new player experience tolerable.
I think the biggest difficulty with having older formats playable is a lot of the better received older formats have cards where the effect is changed so it would be a bit more effort to have the card function with the functionality that makes it a staple at the time. Future Fusion being the biggest factor in this game as well as Goyo Guardian not needing an earth tuner.
@@U1TR4F0RCE For a proper game dev team that shouldn't be a problem. Just change how those word in "the realm of the time wizard". Or Just made special variants of those older cards then with the older function that are only legal in Time Wizard.. That way KoMoney can double dip by having players buy the same card two times.
@@hurrdurrmurrgurr for master duel a lot of the good cards in some of the retro formats are ones that people wouldn't necessarily have. Outside of that though while you can't sell new cards in a retro format Konami has actually done reprints where part of why one would buy the set is because it allows access to a card that has limited availability in the retro format. Konami doesn't care about the reseller market luckily unlike magic so for example Blackwing - Vayu which was at least $10 for most of last year was reprinted in Battles of Legend Crystal Revenge and is now pennies.
What Master Duel needs is not necessarily old formats (but people are clamoring for Time Wizard format to be an optional mode, which would be fun) but just other formats in general. I had a lot of gripes about Rarran's Master Duel video stemming from shit like him refusing to finish the tutorial and then complaining the tutorial didn't teach him anything, but one thing he hit on without saying in so many words is that Ranked is the ONLY way to play master Duel mostly. Yeah during Events there's a few twists to the rules, and Casual technically exists, but they're redheaded stepchildren. Ranked is where you get your dailies done, ranked is where most of the players are, because Yugioh requires resources to play casually, and resources can only be gained in Ranked. If there were fun events always ongoing (instead of for around a week every month) and different formats you could actually complete your dailies in, Master Duel would be a lot better. And I say that as someone who got into Yugioh WITH Master Duel and is perfectly fine with just playing Ranked all the time anyway.
Rarran baiting Cimo into Starlight Road was great play and really showed his fundamentals. If he knew the card synergies with Alius and Gemini Spark, he was in a winning position that game.
I agree. It's the pressure that gets to you when you don't know the cards yet, especially when you need to be mindful of recording content. It would've been cool if he did manage to win with Gemini Spark for sure.
To be fair.. Cimo should've probably switched the decks around. The Blackwing deck is much more intuitive and easy to understand on what it tries to do. The Alius deck requires him to immediately understand what a gemini is, and that Future Fusion is mostly meant as a way to send cards to the GY.
For everyone wondering why goyo says “earth tuner” and Cimo summoned it with a dark tuner, that card got updated text changing its summoning condition. During this format Goyo guardian can be made with any tuner
@@marvelsandals4228 except, funnily enough that's not true. In yugioh, there are 2 sectors. The TCG & the OCG, OCG for Asia and TCG for everyone else. Well, in the TCG, goyo had been unbanned to 3 and was doing absolutely nothing. But he was banned in the OCG. Then a pseudo archetype/tribe was made for Goyo Guardian and Konami of Japan decided, for some reason, to errata Goyo Guardian to needing an Earth Tuner. In fact, Goyo Guardian is the only card that was at 3 at the time of it's errata.
@@StormCrownSrThat last part isn't actually true. Makyura The Destructor was unbanned and legal for a while before it was updated to the new text. A lot of people had fun experimenting with it online when they could. I can't confirm whether there were more but that one at least was at 3.
@@lucaslennan3356makyura is a special case. it was unbanned because it was getting an errata, but at the time the new banlist was going live, makyura's card text had not yet been updated in the database so it was only legal with its old text for like a week.
50:00 It shows you how healthy this game is by the fact that Rarran could have won this if he knew his spell combines whit his Neos Alias who is a Normal Monster when summoned and could have destroyed Goyo Guardian and won the game.
It also shows you how Rarran is not trying to understand the game at all, neither when he played Master Duel nor here, since he doesn't bother reading his cards.
@@gilmu5490 It wasn't as clear to me with his Masterduel video that he wasn't trying to learn the game. But this video made it so clear with how he just wasn't reading any of his cards.
@gilmu5490 felt this way too. Yugioh is absolutely too hard to get into and needs to rectify the issue. However, Rarran talked a lot of shit about the game for someone who STILL doesn't know how direct attacks work
I'm so glad you gave Edison a try, it's just such a shame that master duel doesn't have something like this to ease new players in better than throwing them into the ranked mosh pit.
I'm a hearsthstone player. I learned to get wins with Pendulum magician in two days, what made me really quit is I had two purple dragons to fusion summon and now they allow you to only add one. And that ruined my entire combo
I dont even think it's about easing people in. Most non-Yugioh hardcore players absolutely hate modern Yugioh. If anything we would want other formats to become popular so people actually stay, since modern Yugioh is considered to be a bad card game by most card game players.
@@Hellopleesh Most card game players haven't even tried it at a reasonable level, it's just knee-jerk. Modern yugioh is pretty similar in gameplay to cedh or certain vintage/legacy decks in MtG. And those are pretty popular formats that a lot of people enjoy, but are often priced out of.
GOAT'd ass video. Im so happy this ended up being such an improvement over the last one! By the way, If you ever return to Master Duel (i understand if you dont), i suggest doing it when there is a tryout duel event or normal event. Those events happen for like a week every month and they are temporary low power formats with weaker decks allowed and the game even gives you 3 different Free decks to play on those event formats without a collection. Think Tavern Brawls but they happen only once a month or so. You would have a similar experience to this but in the actual official automated client and without alot of the broken cards that plague the game in ranked. I pretty much only play Master Duel when these events are on and the games generally do have alot more back and forth like Edison. Just an idea for a future video!
Take him through dragon rulers or HAT next , then duelist alliance then TOSS and he's basically playing modern by then I would have started With reaper format b4 Edison tho
Why has the game changed for worse ? It's a genuine question , because from what I understood modern version of the game is like master duel which is not really interactive as we've seen
@@Sampras8491there’s no rotation, so the only way to sell product is by making new cards more powerful than existing ones. If that continues for 13 years after Edison, you get modern yugioh.
@@CrowsNestRetroYGOhonestly 2016 nekroz full power with djinn+modern board breaker would absolutely win events nowadays no question about it. The powercreep is only for handtraps.
@@Sampras8491also ignore the comments above 13 years ago is 2010-2011 the winning world champion deck in 2010 is an frog ftk water synchro turbo yugioh at competitive level is just never slow or force your opponent to slow down there no in between. Yugioh especially in ocg Asian format are known for swift winning position turn 3, from bloo-d otk to ftks, there are slower format once in a blue moon but for majority of its lifespan yugioh the winner has always solved turn 3-4. I learn it the hard way in online simulator back then.
Cimo does more for teaching new players than Konami does, he brought a whole new player base with Progression series and he makes History of YGO and Jank. Konami is crazy to not want to work with Cimo
I think the issue that has lead to Cimoooo being on Konami's no sponsor stuff list is that when he was more active with the TCG he was extremely vocal for always buy singles which isn't what a TCG company would want. So he's kind of like the Professor except unlike the Professor whose the largest Magic RU-vidr Cimoooo's not the largest Yugituber. He can still be featured or interviewed when he plays in tournaments but they can't really approve of him.
@@U1TR4F0RCE To be fair there is worth in buying packs in Magic even at their worst, while Yu-Gi-Oh is honestly quite a nightmare to invest in building decks in.
@@U1TR4F0RCEIf every half-playble card wasn't bumped to max rarity instead of being rare/super+ultra/secret in the ocg , people would be willing to buy product.
@@Shemegory to be fair we know that's simply not true, Pankertops being the most famous example though Scrap Raptor being another where people were even surprised it wasn't rarity bumped at all.
I'm so glad that Rarranch gave Edison format a chance! Really surprised after all of the flak Rarrandy got on the previous YGO vid, but it's super cool to see Ranthony Rantano and Cimooooooooooo interact.
@@saturnusdevorans there's quite a lot of old decks that aren't hit at all by any errata. Worm decks, you know the Needle Worm, Warm Worm Shield Worm mill decks.
tbf even errata'd future fusion would have been good to play earlier. The errata version is only terrible in modern, in edison it would still be good with the errata.
@@motokuchomaI think it depends. In both "games" you are mainly looking for the mill effect to set up other plays. The errata still slows you down in Edison where you can't just go send 2 into Miracle Fusion for immediate tempo. The errata would also open you up to more interruption to not even get the mill period as it would be outed by much more s/t removal like storm or even a topdecked icarus attack hitting it in your draw phase.
@motokuchoma I mean sure but like... future fusion into miracle fusion, when it dies miracle fusion again. I get he wasn't thinking of plays like that, but still. Text changes are definitely notable before the game.
This is actually so much better, I understand what the hell is going on this way. This feels a lot like the early early days of pokemon, or early days hearthstone.
Yes this era of Yugioh is pretty similar to classic Hearthstone's meta in that most games revolve around out-trading your opponent and deck style match-ups; aggro goes for the early win, ramp tries to fulfill conditions to out-value, control wants to grind the game out and combo to stall until they achieve their win condition.
Yeah, for sure. The no mana system and no set rotation is a mess, every 4 main core sets a year have to be more powerful than the last which is why we have the shitshow Rarran discovered. Great video and format!
I really think master duel missed out big on not adding some older format options especially because due to events they tend to do every so often they could easily make various formats and ques for those for yugi boomers or people that are just not able to comprehend modern.
Tbh after n/r format didn't get it's own ladder of even casual rule set that's when I had a feeling yup we're making a 3rd advanced format that means most people now need to know two formats for modern Yu-Gi-Oh
Konami simply doesn't care at all. The banlist is to sell new products. Even in master Duel. There are lots of ideas to balance the game for real, but they are not doing anything on purpose. They choose to ignore videos like this one or any history series or community opinions unfortunately
@@EduardoWeidmanBarijanthe "community" you're talking is less than 1000+ people, they tried to make a 3 vs 3 mode which is a popular mode in ocg and no one playing, now imagine adding a format that only EXISTS in western format, which is already a niche format in tcg. Imagine how dead It will be.
@@r3zaful I'm gonna need a source on those numbers, my understanding from interacting with huge Edison playing groups at locals was that it'd definitely be worth the five dollars of dev time to add in a simpler, more balanced format that tens of thousands of people would start playing MD for
As a teacher, running a Yu-Gi-Oh! Club in my school twice a week has been one of my most enjoyable experiences I’ve had. Kids who start from zero end the year with a clear understanding of the game through my constant guidance and frequent practice. Unfortunately, the majority of new players don’t get that experience :/ Fun to see Cimo coach Rarran! You can see his genuine excitement as he went through the duels.
You were allowed to run a yugioh club at your school? God, I just remember being in elementary school back during the game's early years and getting in trouble if your teachers even SAW yugioh cards out in the open anywhere on school grounds lmfao
As a modern and edison player, I'm glad you gave it a chance again, and found an enjoyable outlet to play Yu-Gi-Oh! Thank you for giving it an honest and unfiltered chance.
Thank you Rarran for giving a more enjoyable version of the game a chance. I hope one day we can get a simulator for this version of Yugioh to make it more streamlined.
This made my day. I'm glad you had a great time playing in this format. :) I remember during one of my great breaks, that format was around where I got back into things, and it was a lot of fun.
The comments of this video is a great reminder of the yugioh community, for better or worse. I’m glad people enjoyed it and had nice things to say, probs will be my last video of yugioh other than guessing cards. Enjoy the video and check out Cimo!
Even with there being a couple negative comments im sure the majority of viewers who are part of the yu gi oh community are happy to see you give the game we love another chance :D
Maybe when you play card game, read what cards in your deck do instead of saying newbies need couch to play game. No, they just need to stop being ignorant when a card have more than 3 words of text. Or they need person who can read. Or go play Solitaire. You were just hating game for your ignorance.
@@Mloteks71 Reading cards is probably fine, I think everyone knows how to read. But reading cards isn't actually as helpful as you think considering you have to understand the cards in the context of the game which you're trying to learn simultaneously. Sure, a player who's played Yu-Gi-Oh! for a while will understand how cards interact with each other when new sets are released. But if you don't know how the game works yet, you'll read a very simple card and still be confused as to what you actually have to do.
This isn't just the better Yu-Gi-Oh, this is Yu-Gi-Oh in it's prime. If you ever want to play alone in a let's play, try the DS game Yu-Gi-Oh World Championship Over the Nexus. It also plays in the Edison time age.
I don’t understand how anyone could have anything other than positivity to comment about this video. When I taught my friends to play Edison format this exactly how it went, and now one of them is winning Edison tournaments! It’s the perfect introduction to the game.
Black Whirlwind is still played in current day Blackwing decks. We now have a way to immediately make use of it (Simoon) without drawing it. Blackwings aren't particular common in the current day, but the people who do play them still makes use of Whirlwind.
It's such a shame that master duel doesn't have a goat and edison format, they are losing out on so many players to janky 3rd party software just because of this
Yugioh used to be a ton of fun before it turned into combo and OTK heaven breaking all the rules with graveyards and banned cards. Somewhere along the lines Konami dropped the ball while constantly powercreeping and not throwing out old sets to avoid too many combos.
@@PresidentScrooge I agree but to be honest Yugioh has had its highs and lows even before the broken modern formats, it just so happened to be that Edison was really well balanced. The way Konami monetizes yugioh and pushes chase cards simply doesn't allow for this game to thrive, and modern yugioh is the result of that, where Edison stands as an antidote.
@@PresidentScrooge They dropped the ball by not introducing set rotation almost 15y ago, tbh. The game would still speed up but not nearly as much. There's a lot of people who play current yugioh that like to cope about it but goddamn would it have solved a lot of the issues the game has right now. Rotate out all or almost all of the floodgates and negates and let the game become interactive again.
@@JeshyQT I'm old enough to have played from the first edition. No, it hasn't. Not even the most loop-sided meta of Chaos Emperor Dragon + Yata was the closest to an OTK because of being a lock situation.
Man. Rarran should have won that last game! He so had it in the bag. He just misplayed by not reading Gemini Spark and activating it. He would have killed the Goyo and for sure survived Cimoo’s next turn meaning Future Fusion would have gone off and he’d have won.
this format specifically is called "Edison" because its not based on a time window or several years etc its a banlist and cardpool based entirely on one specific snapshot of history at one yugioh event located in edison new jersey back in 2010
I hope they add old formats like this to master duel casual it will make the new player experience way better I enjoyed the video ❤❤❤❤ Don't let the hate get to you
Apart from priority (which was already mentioned) it's a bad business move because it's a "locked" format. Once you have the 2-3 decks that you want to play you have no incentive to spend money/gems to get new cards.
@@ДимитърПоптолев nah I think it will make more new people join the game and learn the game through it then with time they will understand how to play the modren yugioh also you can craft any card you want if they need money the should add alternative way to get it like new rarity other then royal finish and alternative art with animation this will make more people buy packs in the deck they mostly play
Might be worth looking at Goat format, it's even more old school (only Fusion monsters, no synchro) but has a vast amount of strategies and longer matches.
Hero beat shines I feel as it's more transferable between the decks of edision in terms of learning. Especially because it uses some of the core systems that didn't really change From pre synchro Yu-Gi-Oh
We have been begging Master duall to allow us to play older formats with the band list from those time periods they do not listen. They could make so much money from us purchasing packs and crafting ultra rares for those formats
It sucks we had to fly cimoo out but seems like you had a lot of fun, super happy you got to experience the joy of flipping judgement and starlight road
I was really disappointed that Rarran missed that Future Fusion is an insane card, but then I realized that Dueling Book has the errataed version of the card text, which makes it seem much more underwhelming
To note at 10:10, it's very relevant to know what part of an effect is cost and what part is effect. If you negate a card, you are negating the effect. There is no way to stop someone from paying cost unless you prevent them from ever activating it in the first place. In Icarus Attack's example, the opponent will always tribute a Winged Beast and target two cards, regardless of whether or not you negate. If you negate it, all you're stopping is the destruction of the targeted cards, since that's the only effect of Icarus Attack. The only way to prevent them from tributing a Winged Beast and targeting two cards would be to prevent them from activating Icarus Attack, like by putting an effect in play that prevents the activation of Trap Cards. This is relevant because there's a lot of cards in YGO that have beneficial costs attached to them, like Card Trooper that mills 3 cards for cost or Cherubini which sends from Deck to GY for cost - neither of which can be stopped unless you stop those monsters from ever attempting to activate them in the first place.
Black Whirlwind is actually played in modern Blackwing decks because it provides access to the newer more busted Blackwing monsters which makes up for its slower speed.
The issue is that competitively speaking, Blackwings don't have what it takes to keep up any longer. Even with the new stuff, the game has passed them by.
Completely agreed but Rarran didn't even mouse over the card to read it. Appreciate that he gave YGO another chance, but still frustrating to see him not even bother reading cards
I mean, tbf, I don't think he was aware that quick spell cards can be activated on your opponent's turn. He probably just thought this was a regular spell and he could only use it proactively, which made it bad in that scenario.
@@orvatus6195 considering he played 5 hours of Master Duel including the tutorial, played Quickplay Spell cards during that gameplay, and watched Cimo use a Quickplay at 18:46, I find that really doubtful. It's just willful ignorance at this point, I legitimately don't think I saw him even scroll over the card once to read it.
Imagine this as an actual series where Cimo teaches a new deck in different formats to Raraan in every episode, it will be so fun and actually teach yu-gi-oh to non-yu-gi-oh players cause this video was so fun to watch
I play legacy of the duelist, which, esp in its pve formats, is a lot more like this kind of format and it's where I can currently enjoy yugioh. I don't care for the huge combo-fests of master duel, but rather this back and forth, risk-reward, smaller combo kind of gameplay.
Really glad Rarran gave YGO another try, but I was frustrated that he still didn't bother to read the cards. That was the major aspect that really bothered me during his Master Duel gameplay, he would just play cards before reading them and then Pikachu face when the card did something he didn't expect. Even here, he held Future Fusion and Gemini Spark in hand and didn't even mouse over them to read them. He didn't set Dimensional Prison until he saw Cimo using it. Like c'mon man, at least put a bit of effort into reading the cards.
@@GuelermeDias that may be true, but the whole point of this video is that it's Edison format. Cards were not that complicated back then. Gemini Spark barely has three lines of text.
Before I even watch this video I'm glad that you tried it out I made the suggestion prior with your newer format video. My prediction is that you will think that this is a lot easier and more fun
Rarran doesn't red his cards. WTF. It was frustrating to see him not read anything throught the game. He didn't even read snowman eater. No wonder he didn't like the game. He didn't even try to comprehend it. If he played Master Duel like this then no wonder he did not enjoy it
It's wild to me that master duel has no alternative formats, it's could be the platform to do it. You can go Litterally wild with different game modes and specific banlist and/or card release for that format, but I guess even konami doesn't like yugioh
cimo not explaining what a gemini was actually killed me man. g2 if rarran knew the gemini distinction he could have popped the goyo and drawn and actually woulda been in a very strong decision since shura can't get over honest and he woulda established abzero
While there are a lot of differences between Yugioh and Hearthstone, don't forget that Yugioh have been out for almost 30 years now while Hearthstone is close to 10 years old. Card games tend to become a lot more fastpased with time. Just think about the difference between classic and current Hearthstone. Just nice to see Rarran get a chance to experience the Yugioh a lot of people loved. Also remember to like and subscribe : )
Only part way through the video, but this is the yugioh I remember. No solitaire, more siege-style, board control matters, overall much more chill but sometimes needing to use your brain to do cool manoeuvres. Rarran seems more into it so I am glad he gave it a try!
I think that's simply what most players are after when they play a card game. They want a deck with a strong theme or mechanic, they want to play multiple turns. It's fine if some high level decks have infinite combos or some formats let the game ends in turn 1, but the main playstyle of the game should be fairly familiar and reactive. If the main way people play is that they are building crazy combos in solo and games don't last more than a couple of turns, then something needs to change or the game will die. I'm not very hopeful about the future of Yu Gi Oh for that reason.
@@Ezullof Nah, the current format is actually super interactive. It's just that the less popular stuff is still "build a board" negate fests. Which is where the problem is. The game was solitaire negate spam for years, so even though the top decks aren't like that anymore, the lower tier decks still sort of default to that gameplay, as they're the previous best decks.
@@najawin8348 The fault of most of the lower tier decks being that lies in stuff like Savage Dragon, Baronne, and Appo. Without those cards negate spam would be far less (and the game overall would be in a healthier position)
I predict within 1 year Rarran is a full fledged YuGiOh player. Typical evolution of a Yugioh player: I hate this game --> Why is this game so hard --> I should pick this game back up cuz itd be funny --> Maybe I'll watch a combo guide --> Oh i comboed someone into the ground that was fun --> Crippling depression, long lasting life dissatisfaction, and cool shiny cardboard to look at.
People leaving insulting comments irritate me. Man gives YuGiOh a second chance and is playing with a deck he’s never seen and didn’t build himself. Why would he be expected to know the optimal plays within the deck? Even after reading there’s a lot information you should expect him not to have because he’s new. How can we expect new players to join our game when they get insulted for trying to learn?!
1 hes just farming views at this point he said that "this is my last ygo video" like twice till now so hes just capitalising off of the drama imo 2 very few individuals and unreasonable players excepted him to 3 dude hes been ignoring reading future fusion for the entirety of game 1 and most of the cards he reads are often mentioned by cimo like i get that in magic or HS there is not a lot of text and hes used to that and that's fine maybe ygo just isnt for him and tbh i dont think he really cares about the game either way cimo was just coping with him and giving him free content but i might be wrong
@@2wjfjf 1) he’s not farming the views. He said he was done with YuGiOh yes, but when Farfa was “debating” him and trying to bring him back in he shared that Cimo had already talk to him about trying a different format so he was going to give it one more chance. 2) you’re right. I was only addressing the small but VERY rude minority. It’s not everyone but there were enough of them that Rarran commented on them. It’s not just a YuGiOh thing it’s an internet thing but it’s still a problem. 3. I agree that YuGiOh is just not for him. Not everyone is interested in reading 30+ words per card and that’s fair imo. And it’s not just Rarran. The same thing happened in the comments when Sam tried to teach Fuslie. I just get irked when people get insulted for being new. Yes, he could have read better, but when you’re new, you don’t know what’s important or how some effects truly work even if you DO read. YuGiOh has a lot of moving parts.
@@Kintaku what drives people to be mean might just be that he obviously doesnt care about the game. Cimo does a great job but rarran just isnt there, doesnt even try to play on his own or look at his cards. Doesnt even look at the artwork, or all the shiny extra deck monsters. If someone told me, as a HS and MTG player, that i got this 15 card toolbox that i can access with these fusion cards or tuner monsters and all of them are big cool win cons or tech cards, i would check that out, that sounds neat. Rarran just played shit from his hand hoping the video would be over soon. And it really is not fun to watch someone who doesnt want to be there get teached by someone who is really into it.
@@ich3730 I mean maybe, but as I pointed out in another response, similarly mean comments were left for Fuslie on Sam’s video as well when she was enthusiastically trying to learn. It’s not just Rarran. And to be fair, Cimo built the decks and didn’t go over them with Rarran first, which is honestly the better way to learn a YuGiOh deck imo. Not to mention the fact that DB is a super boring simulator visually and requires the player to behave as though they are playing physically. I’ve only seen 3 of his videos and I know he’s turned off by the idea of playing a physical TCG. As to your point about Rarran being unenthusiastic overall, that’s fair. To me, it just seems like YuGiOh isn’t the game for him. I just don’t think you have to be rude to get that point across.
@@Kintaku i agree and about the last part i think it all comes doen to psychology when you spend a lot of time doing smth and you get kinda good at it then you see somebody messing up at it you might be like oh let me help but you could also very much just like cringe cuz of how bad someone plays i also think most ygo players do not know how nor care to express themselves properly which is weird since the game irl tend to rely heavily on social interactions and communication and ofc there is also the fact ppl just get angry on the Internet but also you gotta admit rarran really doesn't care tho
Edison is a good mix of slow enough to learn (most of) the mechanics, but fast enough to still have some of the cool flashy plays of the modern day. It's a good lower power format for people to get adjusted that isn't SO archaic that nothing learned within it applies anymore. I'm personally more fond of a slightly faster game than this (I like playing big long stupid combos, but I think the ability to just say no to every card your opponent plays is dumb), but it seems fun. Haven't personally played Edison, it's from a period I wasn't invested in the game, so there's not a ton of decks that I'm particularly enthusiastic about. Glad to see you actually having fun getting Damage Stepped by Cimoooooooo in classic fashion. xP
I had to check how he summoned Goyo Guardian with a dark tuner and found out it actually got an errata. You would never get an errata this egregious in modern yugioh since the main approach is putting an unbalanced card in the limited/forbidden list.
They had a weird errata spree in the mid 2010s where they tried to clean their banlist up with functional erratas to lots of cards that wouldn't leave the banlist otherwise at the time. Unfortunately this killed cards like Goyo, Crush Card Virus and Ring of Destruction. They stopped doing it after getting a pretty harsh backlash.
@@geek593 I don't understand the backlash because if cards like Chaos Ruler or Halqifibrax etc. got an errata making them require certain materials from their respective archetypes they would be able to leave the banlist and help bolster rogue strategies.
Having fun with the game is much more important than being immediately good at it. Many of us have started by not reading the cards carefully, just for fun and to replicate the anime. Getting good at it comes later and becomes another way of enjoying the game. I hope one day you'll be able to say that this difficult game isn't that bad after all.
This was how it should have started, modern Yugioh was just too chaotic for anyone without experience to drop into. Cimoooo also introduced you to one of the most loved formats in the whole game, which is nice.
There. This is all that Konami has to do to bring in new players. First, you separate the Master Pack in MD (the pack with all cards. Well, half of it. Whatever) into multiple series of packs corresponding to these unofficial formats (like Edison or Goat). Then, you add a ranked queue for these formats restricting you to cards you could use at the time. Everyone wins: people wanting to play the full game while not knowing YGO at all can actually have a fun time against real players while getting used to the game and start getting into more complicated format when they feel confident; people wanting to play older YGO formats as an official digital cardgame can do that; and modern YGO players can still play the game as it is, and sometime take a break from the meta.
Glad to see that you came back to give YGO another shot and had a bit more fun with it this time. Retro format Yugioh has been growing exponentially over the past few years and it represents a great way for people of all experience levels to interact with the game. Sorry that the negativity in the comments brought down the experience though!
Funnily enough, the reason I stopped playing Yu-Gi-Oh! and returned during COVID was because early Yu-Gi-Oh! was TOO SLOW for me, and when I saw modern Yu-Gi-Oh! I was instantly enamoured, so Edison was never something that appealed to me, that said, Edison is 100% the way to learn Yu-Gi-Oh! for newcomers and people that want to come back
Rarran! Thanks for giving yugioh another chance, MBT sent in the big guns and Cimo delivered on his damage step reputation. Looking forward to more content like this ❤
Edison is honestly the best way to play Yu-Gi-Oh :D GOAT Format is a little bit busted & annoying with Cards like Pot of Greed, Graceful Charity or Delinquent Duo
