Cine Gear 2022 Blackmagic Design Ursa Mini Pro 12k G2 - Prediction

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Hey Dudes, Blackmagic design is on the precipice of launching a brand new Ursa Mini Pro G2 cinema camera.
If not in the next week, most certainly in the coming months. Im hoping that the G2 version of the Ursa Mini Pro (UMPG212k) will be announced at Cine Gears 2022.
The big question is really the design / form factor that BMD will go with. Will they stick with the same body design since 2015, or do a major overhaul.
Its clear that a lot of people want a cube or box styled camera and it would be logical for BMD to use their best sensor in it. That being the 12k URSA MINI Pro sensor design.
But its the recent announcement of 12k complaint CFexpress cards from Angelbird and Exascend that I believe to be the biggest sign of a new digital cinema release from Blackmagic design.
As the Ursa mini Pro 12k is the only 12k cinema camera on the market, could the release of these cards be the tell tale sign of what is coming?
Well lets discuss it.....
Affectionate known as the UMP12k, The Ursa Min Pro 12k G2 will be the best cinema camera that Blackmagic design will have released to date.
What will Blackmagic design's next cinema camera release be. We think history shows us that the Ursa Mini Pro 12k will be upgraded to a G2 (second generation version) and the pocket 4k will be upgraded with the 4.6k sensor and the 6k pro body.
The pocket 4.6K pro would then be in line with the pocket 6k pro with built electronic ND filters, longer battery life, tilt screen, removable EVF and will receive a media card upgrade to CFexpress cards.
We see the 12k G2 also adopting the electronic ND filters from the pocket 6k Pro, while also receiving a CFexpress media card upgrade.
The media card upgrade alone would breathe a huge amount of life into the ageing body design. And would give the Ursa Mini Pro 12k Pro g2 to possibly shoot at 300 fps in 4k. Possibly higher. Or shoot in less compressed formats at say a 16 bit depth.
Anyway this is a fun video for BMD cinema camera fanboys like.
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@cinechimp 2 года назад

Hey dudes, we are all eagerly awaiting BMD next cinema camera. Love to hear what you are all looking for. Best comment will get something......remember, be kind to one another

@mueezahmed4945 2 года назад

Eagerly looking for upgraded 12K and really wish to have automatic focus..

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@mueezahmed4945 Hey I think ALL BMD users want better AF. But will it happen.....now thats a hot topic.

@DANAMIONLINE 2 года назад

Some articles I’ve read has intrigued me about BMD’s custom sensor. I’m curious what’s the next camera of theirs to receive their own sensor, built for the 12K. I won’t be surprised if the G2 gets updated with the new sensor.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@DANAMIONLINE Yes I too think that the BMD custom sensor is going to become their default sensor in their cinema cameras. I mean why wouldnt they? Blackmagic Design would have spent a lot of money engineering that sensor, so it wont be tossed aside.

@thiagolimadop 2 года назад

That's a long shot, but... the later release of the 4.6k Alexa35 w 17 stops DR due to the DGO sensor made me wonder: What about if BM was awaiting this and not the NAB 22 nor Canon's new camera? They would be entering a whole new niche w a Ursa 4.6k G3 w DGO sensor and C2C allready built in. One step closer to the industry standard. That's my wishfull thinking...

@cinechimp 2 года назад

You could be right about a G3 Ursa mini 4.6k. If they could get more Dynamic range, closer to that new Alexa, imagine that....

@chrisjenkins9978 2 года назад

A simple box design with options for either, global shutter, full-frame or Super35, 4K, 6K or 8K. And to top it off, a PCI NVMe or USB 4 - 10, 20 or 40 gigabit connection.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

These all sound like fantastic ideas for a new blackmagic design cinema camera

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

🤫🤫🤫 people don't like it when you predict cameras for fun 😅

@cinechimp 2 года назад

ohhhhhhhhhhhh..........

@FrameVoyager 2 года назад

@@cinechimp 😉

@DPac9 2 года назад

I just felt like I saw totally another, brand new universe 🤩 Just blown away with the mind numbing technologies of movie making! Phew!!

@christellecubizolles4636 2 года назад

Yes, the 12K compliant Angelbird CFexpress cards make sense that a G2 is on the way. How did we all miss this

@cinechimp 2 года назад

I know right. 12k compliant CFexpress cards, on the shelves for sale in broad daylight = 12k Ursa Mini Pro G2 coming soon. The form factor is the big question. Will the Ursa Mini Pro G2 be a box style camera or a continuation of the current design language?

@earnieboy54 2 года назад

Nice. But I would hate a camera in the RED Komodo body. Need something a little bigger than that.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

I totally agree, but it seems to be (from my last video) the form factor whats the masses want. If you were BMD what would you do?

@nd_ru 2 года назад

I’d love the box form factor but would also love dual native iso on it or in a new urea body

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Wise choices

@NANETOCAXORRAZO 2 года назад

I’m guessing a box style camera with s35 sensor and global shutter, RF mount and 16 bit raw codec

@cinechimp 2 года назад

That would please a lot of blackmagic customers.

@hamidnorani2239 Год назад

Pleas split the rubber dust cap for the Microphone XLR, if i put one Microphone XLR the other XLR input can be closed with the rubber dustcap. Also pleas image integreated stabilisation

@cinechimp Год назад

Im sorry I dont understand your comment

@billzidis2656 2 года назад

Had already Ursa G2,P6K,P6K Pro and the G2 4.6 ... I'm so happy that i sold them and got the Zcam F6 and F8... Much better cameras for me on everything

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Hey Zcam make interesting looking cameras. I havent used them, but a lot of people swear by them. If they work for you, thats all that matters

@redumbrella4218 Год назад

Great job, thanks! I would love to have a BMC that would run 500 fps @ 4K.

@cinechimp Год назад

Oh man that would be awesome!

@travisp.hodgkinson.artist 2 года назад

I personally really love the design of the mini pro. It’s ergonomically fantastic. The DSLR design of video cameras needs to stop! They’re totally uncomfortable to use once rigged. Which literally defeats their selling point, their lightness. Keep the design the same, add higher frame rates. Add another 2 drops of DR. Add 16 bit Raw. And add Prores!!! Improve the quality of the dials!!!! And of course EXPRESS TYPE B implementation. I’ll be an early investor again. I’ve been totally happy with my URSA 12K.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Brother I couldn't agree more. The Ursa Mini Pro Design is fantastic for shoulder mounting. I think we can all agree that more Dynamic Range on any camera is a welcome addition. And yes the DSLR rigging situation is a nightmare. I big gripe with it is all the cameras are designed with the I/O ports on the operators side. So when you shoulder mount the camera the cables are all up in your face. There is a reason why cameras are designed the way they are....right?

@travisp.hodgkinson.artist 2 года назад

@@cinechimp absolutely! I’ve recently just bought myself the Canon XF605. I can’t begin to tell you how well it has been designed! The specs are fantastic. And if being honest, 99% of my customers wouldn’t even notice the difference in quality. The URSA is a cinematic camera, the Canon is literally everything else and with lighting, can be a cinema camera easily! They’re all just tools. Choose the right tool for the job.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@travisp.hodgkinson.artist Man, you are blessed with the wisdom today! I came so close to buying a Canon XF 605, but in the end got a pocket 6k pro. Then started looking at the Ursa mini Pro 12k and held off. The main thing I want is fo all of my cameras to use the same media type. Which is why in the past I completely avoided RED.

@travisp.hodgkinson.artist 2 года назад

@@cinechimp I bought the 6K Pro as well, in fact two of them. I ended up returning the one and selling the other. The 12K definitely has a more filmic substance to it. The pockets are nice cameras and have their place. But the 605 is just such a beast. The auto focus, stabiliser and reach of the zoom are just ridiculously handy. If I hadn’t just invested In the m1 Ultra, I’d pick up another 605 to run them in tandem. The buttons make the camera seem daunting, but literally after 2 days I find myself flying with it. And geez, the weight is 2kg! Just so happy with the purchase.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@travisp.hodgkinson.artist Now hat is a considerable bonus. Only 2kg with lens, ready to go. Im still on the fence about the M1 Ultra. Waiting for the Macpro. Because if there is a new Ursa Mini Pro 12k, I just want a machine that blazes it. Im finding my Mac M1 mini works great, but chokes bag when I am doing any compositing. Hows the Ultra for you and the 12k Ursa footage?

@AdamLangdon Год назад

It’s crazy to think it was almost a year ago that we were all hoping for a new 12k, and lo and behold, the 12k OPLF is here. It feels a little underwhelming even though the image has improved from the regular 12k. But man, I’m just dying to get a new body or more efficient battery life…

@cinechimp Год назад

Hi Adam, man you just smacked the nail on the head! My URSA 12k was a battery monster and thats before you started adding all the other stuff for a shoot. Then it just get awkward - so yeah Im with you brother, new design.... But look BDM also historically does this and if we follow history a minor update usually means a big change is coming. And typically within a year. Also with that new Red Komodo X release yesterday, BMD is going to need to hit back with something.....

@gioroofexpert7454 2 года назад

BM needs to shrink not only their name but their pocket cameras too, make them the same size as Sony a7. now they are going the oposite route than the rest of the industry pretty soon they gonna have one body for all their cameras (pocket ursa) Blackmagic Indy 6K - 8k (pocket) and Ursa Cine G3 BlackMagic Cine Pro 12k

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Oh I totally agree about the naming schemes. The Blackmagic Ursa Mini Pro G2, Blackmagic Ursa Mini Pro 12k, the blackmagic design pocket cinema camera 6k pro....who comes up with this stuff right? But you could very well be right. BMD does lean right into that Apple playbook of design of long revision times and recycling of parts. And that does seem to be the way the tech world is going. Maybe this is being driven by component shortages and companies want more out of their bottom lines....

@davidpodosek9485 2 года назад

The current form factor is fine but... #1-get it on the Netflix list. What does it need? More DR? 444? WTF? Autofocus "option" would be nice to compete with the Sonys and Canons. I have 10k burning a hole thru my pocket and I own 2 p6K's. Don't make me get a Komodo.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Im currently shooting with the 12k Ursa, my main issue is the screen is useless out doors. Plus when stripped all the way down, its still pretty big compared to a pocket, v-raptor or Komodo.

@donjordz5572 2 года назад

16bit raw, 6k, one more stop of ND. I guess this is enough? oh and yeah a better OS.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Now all of these upgrades should be considered by blackmagic design for either the Ursa Mini Pro, 12k Pro and the pocket line of cameras.

@mattsiiteri4366 2 года назад

4k pro in the form factor of the OG pocket or the form factor of bmmcc. I’d buy either right away lol. As much hate as dslr style bodies get now they really do have a place for budget indie films without permits haha

@cinechimp 2 года назад

I think would be great!

@rami.nguyen 2 года назад

My gut is telling me they're working on two things, track focus firmware update and a BTZ camera.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Oh you could very well be right

@mauricalv1 2 года назад

No new camera from BMD. I think the focus is ATM and cloud

@cinechimp 2 года назад

In time, they will come.

@gafferngrip5407 2 года назад

I just hope they release a box cinema camera like the Red Komodo with good autofocus.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Looks like you are not alone in the hunt for a for a BMD boxed styled cinema camera. And I totally agree if blackmagic could get some sort or useable AF happening, like the Komodo's - that would be insane.

@daniellove162 2 года назад

Give me a 6k pro camera with RF and cfexpress B please.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

sounds like a great combo to me.

@JitDawgBruhDang 2 года назад

What would get me to switch is a full frame sensor, and a box sized camera… That’s really it. The full frame sensor also needs to be 3:2 as well because affordable anamorphic options are evolving

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Totally agree with a full frame BMD cinema camera. That would be rad. A true open gate camera would also be better than a standar 16:9 sensor as well. Great insights.

@wakkowarner8810 2 года назад

I am eagerly waiting for a pocket 4k pro; an mft mount with nd filters built-in would be so nice.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

That my friend, sounds like a dream camera. And with CFexpress 200fps would be easily achievable.

@colorred6648 2 года назад

curious your thoughts on the new Alexa 35

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Great question. If we remove the cost, amazing digital cinema camera. I would be interested to side by side the Arri 35 vs the red Vraptor to compare and contrast both companies claims to 17 stops or DR. Im a bit skeptical of Red's claim, but Im sure the Arri claim is understated. Theres a lot of things to love, which aren't worth discussing, because when it ships it will be the best cinema camera on the market and the new standard that other companies, like Sony & BMD will chase. But Im not sure I like the design language, that side screen looks very cheap for a 70K camera. Like something from a 1980s gameboy. Strategy wise, I like they removed all the additional option fees, but dont like the modules. Audio should never be an add on module. I dont like admitting this a DP, audio is important.

@elvisripley Год назад

Just started thinking about getting a couple 12k cameras and media was one of the main things that seem out of date. The ssd reader seems like a nice choice but that little usb-c connector does not fill me with confidence about surviving a bump. Internal cfexpress type b seems obvious. 2 or even 4 slots. The other was the mount. It would be great to have L mount or something else. Canon doesn’t make EF lenses any more. It’s an old mount. Coming from Sony the lens options aren’t that exciting. L would get back adapters and newly developed lenses. I guess full frame would be awesome too. Or maybe just bigger than s35. I wonder if they could do a sensor that could record 12k but technically be higher resolution in full frame but down scaled in camera. Maybe a 16k sensor that you can only get 12k out of. Seems like most people record 8k or 4k out of the 12k anyway.

@cinechimp Год назад

You raise some great points Elvis. I will say this BMD will eventual shift to CFexpress type of media. They may be waiting on CFexpress type C which are larger, fast and will offer higher capacities. The trend by companies (apart from Stills camera manufactures) is to sensor stitch two smaller sensors together. It wouldn't surprise me if BMD did this, but it wouldn't also not surprise me if they never went full frame. I say this because even though BMD has great cinema camera like the pocket 4k, pocket6k, 6k pro, Ursa Mini Pro 4.6 and 12k - most of their other equipment is for broadcast or live production, where smaller sensors are the preference. If Blackmagic design could achieve a 16k to super sample a 12k/8k image that would be rather impressive though. In terms of lens mount - it would be nice to see the range of cameras opened up to L or E mount lens options. Then we users would have 6 native options to choose from, which would be awesome.

@elvisripley Год назад

Cfexpress B has the benefit of being the one normal card right now. That gives it the advantage for Blackmagic over trying to push C and being one of the few to use it. For sensor size it would be a good way to signal they are a cinema camera and not just broadcast+. Maybe just a big s35 like Red does where their sensors are a little extra wide.

@williamcodywinter 2 года назад

Would love to see dual native ISO on the ursa

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Wouldn't that be something.

@TaiowaMusic 2 года назад

They need to launch the BMB6k and 8k black magic box. 8 k.....18 stops.....IBIS with lock..... Open Gate......Global shutter. 600 fps at 1080. Water proof and vmount. RF mount..... with a 6 k MFT version. Locking screw on power cable. NDI licensed or alike. And it should have a built in cage and accessories mounting holes.

@bmefilms6879 2 года назад

you forgot to add for $1699!

@TaiowaMusic 2 года назад

@@bmefilms6879 I was hoping 1499

@cinechimp 2 года назад

18 stops - wow brother....But hey these are serious requests

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@TaiowaMusic NOW that would be bang for buck

@TaiowaMusic 2 года назад

@@cinechimp I figure you ask for 18...the test will show 15

@Justin_Allen 2 года назад

Good pickup regarding the 12k Raw cards. I completely missed that. The thought process makes sense.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

There is just so much stuff being released at the moment. Its like the flood gates have opened after two years. Fuji just announced a new camera that records internal prores in 10nit 422. Which is impressive. And uses CFexpress type B cards. So the recording media being advertised a 12k compliant, is a tell tale sign something is changing with the ursa min pro 12k. Or perhaps the pocket 4/6/6k pros....hopefully in a couple of weeks we will know

@travisp.hodgkinson.artist 2 года назад

Yeah man noticed those as well hey. Definitely hinting at an upcoming replacement. I reckon they’re going to stay with the design. Just makes sense, Financially.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@travisp.hodgkinson.artist We think alike mate. Its the only way to make low cost products. Recycle parts as much as possible.

@Justin_Allen 2 года назад

@@cinechimp I actually think that they will release a new body style, one that is close to the new Arri Alexa 35. It answers the call for a "new" camera, gives people a "box" camera without really doing it and creating a Komodo clone in the process, and allows Blackmagic to have a bigger perceived cinematic presence on sets.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@Justin_Allen Yes I am watching that right now. Looks amazing

@newfriendsonapalday947 2 года назад

routing for the Aussies

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Go Blackmagic Design

@PALALALALALALA 2 года назад

Blackmagic 12K says one thing : they are working on a technology where you could shoot RAW Full frame with a downscale in resolution. My guess ? Next camera will have 8 or 12K raw, and you will be able to shoot 4K or 2K Raw using the whole sensor. This is huge. If they can accomodate prores 10bits for fast paced production, this will shakes things up for every camera maker competitors.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

You raise some excellent points. Utilising the entire sensor and super sampling would be a smart more for any future Blackmagic Cinema Camera.

@samorayee420 2 года назад

Honestly I decided buying 12k but I think I have to wait at the moment. Nikon z9 was my dream but I got by chance . At the moment I'm in different way buying or not but something tell me I have to stop for two or three months . But I'm sure blackmagic has something for us

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Well a new ursa mini pro 12k G2, pocket 4.6k pro or 8k something could be in the works from blackmagic design. Cine Gear is just around the corner, so hang tight.

@hzubovi1 2 года назад

Would like to see something in beetween Ursa mini and pocket cinema cameras. Don't need 12K. 8k 60 is more than enough. Would like it to have more dynamic range also would love global shutter, electronic variable ND, and sensor stabilization

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Everything you have mentioned would make awesome additions to any cinema camera, but especially a new blackmagic design cinema camera, which we can all afford.

@slipoch6635 2 года назад

Dunno why everyone in this space seems to prefer using cards over hard drives. A Usb-C 3.2/thunderbolt 4 Nvme drive would be so much faster than any CFExpress cards as well as having a far larger storage space capability. This would future-proof BM cameras for the forseeable future too. I would like to see a MFT 6k 4:3 sensor in what is now the pocket 4k allowing open gate recording. I doubt it will happen though.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

I think NVME's will be useable externally, like Samsung drives are now. But internal media will be CFexpress for sure. Couldnt agree more about a MFT 6k 4:3 sensor, that would breathe some new life into the pocket 4k range. Be nice if they squeezed some ND's in there too. That would make a great open gate anamorphic budget friendly option for owner ops and smaller productions.

@terangikaiwhiriakemara 2 года назад

URSA 12K need CFExpress for sure. Also Lemo 2/4 pin and 3-pin Lemo power connectors (basically the additions of the Wooden Camera D-Box Plus), 4 channel recorder, more lens mount options, prores (even if they can't do 12k, allow prores to 8k), black shading capabilities for exreme conditions, speaking of which, better water proofing; move the power switch and XLRs from the top, and, better IR cut in their NDs.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

So many good ideas here for the Ursa 12k

@TheWatdachtjedan 2 года назад

Anything 6k fullframe/vistavision sized sensor with a 4k s35 crop mode would be a great win. Especially since larger sized sensors are all the hype now. And a user changeable mout between EF & (L)PL with ND filters

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Totally agree. True multi-format cameras should be the way of the future.

@JonasStuart 2 года назад

For me, my next move will probably be something that's currently in development with BMD. Although the UMP 12K would be a great step up for me (from my P4K), I want it for everything it offers except the 12k resolution so my wish list would be an 8k version with all the same frame rate options but less noise, dual ISO, better screen and more stops of DR. That's about it. Not really fussed about all the other stuff as it's a pretty well refined beast already. My only fear would be more price drop madness like they did with the 12k! So I'd probably hold off for a bit on any new camera unless it was already crazy cheap (which I think the 12k is for what it offers)...

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Hey dude, I think you nailed a lot of the collective sentiment here. Wise words. Yes that price drop on the Ursa Mini Pro 12k was crazy. I felt super bad for the people that got stung by that. I would have not been happy thats for sure.

@JonasStuart 2 года назад

@@cinechimp No, but the funny thing is, even at 10k it was amazing value compared to the usual suspects. On my wish list would also be access to dual ISO at once (like the GH6s DR boost). That would be amazing as well as a 3:4 sensor for better anamorphic. All more useful to most film makers than 12k. Having said that, I'd probably buy the 12K if I have to and never look back. The more time I spend with the P4K (especially now I have a set of Superspeed Zeiss Milvus glass) the more I can squeeze out of it...

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@JonasStuart Dang thats some nice glass you are rocking there brother

@JonasStuart 2 года назад

@@cinechimp Yeah, very nice and pretty much future proof. Paid my dues though so earn this kit!

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@JonasStuart We all do brother, we all do

@andrewskater17 2 года назад

Would love to see just a more pleasing looking blackmagic camera

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Damn straight they aint the prettiest things floating around

@MartinBleazard 2 года назад

Just finally bought 4 Cfast 2 cards 😂 all I want is proxies in cam tbh. I have thought, if you took the handgrip off the pocket and made a moveable bluetooth handgrip, would make that camera super flexible

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Its such a same that the LANC port on the cheaper cameras has been removed. But your idea sounds great. The bluetooth BMD camera companion app works great. I just wish it had image output with it over BT, like canon does.

@ritasammy4575 2 года назад

Interesting. Yes technology changes all the time

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Yep and with the New Arri Alexa costing 70k Euro, many of us have to turn to companies like Blackmagic Design for more affordable cinema cameras like the Ursa Mini Pro and pocket series of cameras.

@matoflynn 2 года назад

Insane b-roll game, fingers crossed

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Thanks brother.

@AdamLangdon 2 года назад

If they do release a Ursa Mini 12k G2, i doubt it would be $5995. I expect the price to be closer to $8595 or something, that way it still keeps the UM12k in play.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

You could be right. Or the Ursa Mini Pro 12k G2 could just take its place and the 12k g1 and 4.6 could be further reduced in price

@AdamLangdon 2 года назад

@@cinechimp this was also a very insightful video. i REALLY hope we see a new BMD camera this summer!

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@AdamLangdon Oh thanks mate and likewise. I think with the release of the Komodo, Vraptor, the new Arri 35, Fuji's new 14 stop DR mirrorless which has good AF and IBIS, BMD is going to have to release something.

@ThisIsLeeBird 2 года назад

BMD is dead to me. Those new switchers are crap. They should have made the ATEM mini pro extreme iso into a rackmount version with XLR inputs. Or update that television studio HD. I do use their PCIe cards though.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Are you talking about the ATEM mini's?

@ThisIsLeeBird 2 года назад

@@cinechimp ATEM me constellations

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@ThisIsLeeBird OH the one like released a couple of weeks ago. I havent had a chance to use them. Whats their main downsides?

@captainobvious7449 2 года назад

Classy viddy as per usual..

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Thanks brother!

@nickxc 2 года назад

I believe a black magic design cameras use a 12-bit analog to digital converter so changing the codec to 16 bit wouldn't be possible without a fairly major hardware redesign. A frame rate boost seems more possible but that's also dependent on the sensor readout speed. That's why the Ursa mini pro G2 was able to record higher frame rates without a change to the recording media. I know the 12K has a good readout speed, but I have no idea what the math would be to figure out the theoretical limit.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Yes its very intriguing how this stuff all mathematically plays out. And with the new Arri 35 in the mix (I know the price difference is insane) with 17+ stops of dynamic range, I wonder how this is going to affect manufactures like Blackmagic design. Will the Ursa 12k pro be enough even if it is improved moving forward? Lots of questions from the last couple of weeks ....

@nickxc 2 года назад

@@cinechimp I'm hoping black magic takes a page out of Arri's book and focuses on perfecting their color space and tonal curve for 12-bit log. Arri made a pretty big deal about their color space and how their tonal curve helps with the distribution of information for their highlights. I hope other manufacturers follow suit. Arri did have to make the jump to 13-bit for the new camera. But I think black magic taking a similar approach can still do a lot within their 12-bit log

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@nickxc Thats right 13 BIT from a 18 Bit source. Imagine if they had stay with 18 bit 4.6k and piped that into ARRI RAW. The files would have been ginormous. As yes I also hope BMD follows ARRIs chase of better pixels and more dynamic range over resolution like red.

@nickxc 2 года назад

@@cinechimp holy crap! I missed the bit about the 18 bit source. Goes to show just how much data can fit in log over linear. I'm hoping the same. The Ursa 12K is a very good camera but not really what a lot of us are looking for. It wasn't much of an image upgrade outside of resolution and the loss of prores is painful. Thanks for all the great content and being so responsive!

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@nickxc Oh thanks brother, thats nice of you to say. Yeah that 18bit linear source in the new ARRI 35, will be what is providing the extra dynamic range. But even with the ARRI, I wish we got the 18 bit linear to make the create decision with later. You know what I mean?

@SaintProductions1 2 года назад

I need a small box form factor B cam that has an updated sensor over the pockets, to match my Ursa 12k. It would come in handy to put on lightweight gimbals. BMD needs to stop playing around. Full frame would be nice too. lol

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Does the pocket 6k Pro not do it for you? Or would you just prefer a cube styled camera for gimbal work?

@SaintProductions1 2 года назад

@@cinechimp I'm not interested in older sensors so I would want a newer sensor, that's the biggest thing for me. I don't like to purchase old Tech. So if they put a 12k sensor in a smaller body, i would purchase it immediately; because that would be the sidekick camera that I am looking for.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@SaintProductions1 Fair point. Im just wondering after seeing how much cooling makes up the new Alexa 35, if BMD could even get the Ursa Mini Pro sensor to run cooler in a smaller than URSA body. Interesting

@SaintProductions1 2 года назад

@@cinechimp Good point. I would even take the Ursa 4.6 G2 sensor in a smaller form factor right now. But once again, i would rather a new sensor if given the choice.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@SaintProductions1 I hear you. Fingers crossed that BMD design keeps delivering awesome cameras like the UMP, so eventually they will make a camera equal to an alexa without the 70K price tag.

@waveland 2 года назад

The new Alexa 35 puts tons of pressure on everyone to improve their sensor capabilities. I’m curious to see how much more DR the RGBW sensor design can accommodate and 12k onto a single card would of course simplify the high res workflow for effects plates and such. And who doesn’t want a box design as an alternative for compact rigging? It will be interesting to watch.

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Man you are spot on about the Arri 35 shaking up the market. And, yes it is going to be super interesting to watch and see what happens. What it does mean is now is a good time to sell off any cameras and still get a good return before they obsolete.

@mtj_zuffa 2 года назад

i think they will use NVMe disks - much cheaper with the same or better data write/read

@cinechimp 2 года назад

Hey you may be right about that. I gather you are thinking something like what Kinefinity has done with their new kinemags? That would actually follow BMD M.O for keeping things cheap and easily accessible. And make a l ot of sense for a more expensive camera in their range, like the Ursa 12k G2

@travisp.hodgkinson.artist 2 года назад

Christ I hope not! Stay with purpose built media!!

@cinechimp 2 года назад

@@travisp.hodgkinson.artist I have the 2tb version of a 12k compliant card from Angelbird. And it just drinks up 8k footage and never slows down. Its awesome. Hopefully I get the chance to test it of a 12k camera ;)