Citroen Saxo rear brakes 

Thank you sir

Thanks for that. Will need to try out some of those irwin bolt extractors, do you find them to work well? Its a wonder they didnt use hex bolts in the first place, or put a smidge of copper grease around the bolts just to stop them seizing into place.

Thanks for the comment, they are not a bad wee car still great fun to drive.

Thanks for the tip will need to give it a try, ATF i have lying about, acetone is that paint stripper? As for the polo to 106 id say go for it either that or a Saxo. They have their problem areas to watch out for but a good one is a bundle of fun to drive.

Thanks for the comment

You'll be pleased to know that the car (Y reg) just passed its MOT today! ...just! ;)

Well done on that, happy motoring

Yep its sometimes just making the subtitles stay with the footage, the only thing i can suggest for this video as it is already up is the pause button although yes it can be a bit of a faff

Haha that is a fantastic way to fix it

Hi Thanks for the comment. Yes sometimes the subtitles are too fast, i try to take the time to ensure they stay up for long enough but it does get difficult. Its handy if there is a bit of tubing to hand to direct the old fluid away, but i seldom do have any spare. The metal the fluid goes down is all good thick metal which would take a long time before it rusted to a point where it would compromise the structure especially if the fluid is cleaned with the cleaner. However on a newer car with painted parts in this area it is of course much better to use a piece of tube as suggested.

It would have been nicer if there was a hub behind the drum, although i think a wee bit of brake dust might do minimal harm, but rust flakes would cause wear.

Hi Thanks for the comment, this was very much a real world car. Yes the heating/cooling works so it does, although the parts here are not machined to such fine tolerances that thats really necessary, a quick press or even the correct use of a threaded bar and some sockets will press the bearing out of the drum relativley easily. The bearings come as a sealed unit, they came apart on this car because of how the inner part stuck to the axle shaft.

Thanks for the reply. I might try the threaded bar method next time, or look for a secondhand tool kit, as this time I just went to a local garage and they pressed in both bearings for £10 each.

@@johnwalker7788 Ahy taking the parts to a garage with a press sometimes is a handy way to get it sorted quickly and safely

@@peugeotCitroen2CV what an absolute ripoff 😂

@@zeez9053 A ripoff in what regard?

thanks

MPC007_EXP I cant remember exactly i just know i bought a few bigger sockets for these jobs rather than buying a full set. However after googling "citroen saxo rear hub nut" it seems most are 32mm for the rear. I have a 32mm socket.

MPC007_EXP 32 mm nut on my Peugeot 106 1.4 Quiksilver 1999 car. Drum brakes same as this.

Before removing the fittings that is.

@@holdXtoshoot A handy tip thanks for that

This works on most, if not all of car out there 2😉

If changing the cylinders then do the shoes as well as false economy not to unless they are like new which they are probably not.

MPC007_EXP - Never do half a job. You'll thank yourself later for a good complete job. Beside if and when the cylinders leak everything will be contaminated with brake fluid, the result is RUST. ;-)

I dont believe it needed adjusting, i think from memory on this saxo the cables were adjusted to adjust the handbrake.

@@peugeotCitroen2CV Hi there, just wanted to add onto this comment. Did you touch the self-adjusters after installation at all, to set the distance between the brake shoes and drum? I didn't and I now need to press the pedal halfway to get the rear drum brakes to work, and when I try to move them with a screw driver they won't budge.

That is copper grease, it is used to prevent the bolt from seizing due to rust.

I have found them to give a much better grip where other types of pliers would simply allow the spring to slip. On very old rusty springs they could potentially snap although new springs tend to be able to deal with this without any damage or distortion.

Jonny the car guy The wheel bearing is pressed into place, to do it properly you need a bearing puller/press cheaper ones that use s threaded bar are relatively inexpensive on ebay. Alternatively bring the drum and new bearing to a mechanic with a hydraulic press to have it installed. You may also be able to use the correct sizes of sockets to hammer one in and out although there is a risk of damaging the new bearing

peugeotCitroen2CV i have a bearing kit, i might aswell use it then

I thought that it might not be that pressed as a front wheel bearing thats why i asked

peugeotCitroen2CV is there a snap ring securing it inside the drum?, And is it the same bearing as the front one or its different?

The front wheel bearings are pressed into the hub but they have a circlip and usually require a larger hydraulic press, i tried the threaded bar type press on my old 607 hub and it stripped the threads.

No they would probably be much harder on a 305, though i really must say the 50-50 mix of acetone (nail varnish remover) and automatic transmission fluid does work quite well on brake pipe unions if allowed to work its way in over a couple of days.

Thanks for the comment

+peugeotCitroen2CV i also have a question for you if I may. I have the Peugeot 106 max the one that has 3 nuts on the wheels. So i wanna make the change to four nuts. If I change the drums for a sport model or a saxo or a ax gti for example.. Can it be done?

It all can be done yes, you can do anything really from getting an AX and converting it to a saxo VTS running gear and everything in between. The forums are the best places to go for guides but the AX, Saxo and 106 share quite a lot in common

I didnt even notice this myself, the brakes still worked, never noticed access to be an issue but a we’ll observed point. The 2cv may be in some ways better, although £10k starting price for them. The AX, 106 and Saxo offer much better value for money at the moment and are possibly easier to live with day to day. Maintenance on them is quite simple.

Is there a part of the nut that is indented into a groove on the stub axle? That will stop it turning loose.

@@peugeotCitroen2CV not that I remember but I will take the wheel off and have another look. What would cause drum to seize ? Is it possible to free drum up to drive to a garage

@@peugeotCitroen2CV yes there is a indentstion on the nut that is stopping it ,how do I get round this do I need a special tool

@@roostaraver I had to deal with the indentation in this recent video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YhXD4EAua7U.html 1:25 and 3:19 A small chisel, or chisel screwdriver in behind the indentation will drive it back out. Always wear safety goggles just in case bits of the chisel or nut break off.

@@peugeotCitroen2CV brilliant bud, thanks so much I will watch your video I will give it a go in a few hours

Freddy Monrroy Its whats in the Haynes manual and the dealer service instructions

Thanks for the comment