@@wimalasirikalupahana2303 its actually not a reference to anything. i just thought it was funny. and i thought it the entire time i watched supergirl.
I find it really hard to believe that this series is in the same universe as The Flash, Green Arrow, Supergirl, etc. just the way the scenes are framed and shot, the lighting, the non-cringeworthy acting. It feels like a whole different level of quality than those shows
Its bc Batman and superman arent just characters, they are cultural icons and most writers understand that even if you want to experiment with them you cant cut corners or half ass it just to get an episode out like you can with other characters
I’ve never even seen this show before but this looks phenomenal. I love Tyler Hoechlin as Clark and I love the struggle of him keeping his identity a secret from his two sons. It’s so realistic and it’s one of the best iterations of Clark/Superman that I’ve seen.
The show is well worth your time, if you’re someone, like me, that grew up loving Superman. Subtle Easter eggs from the comics, things that you would expect to see in the world.
I was hesitant at first. He was first on the CW flash and Arrow crossovers and was very.... weak. Lois was hitting on other Supermen (tom welling and the one from Superman Returns) while he stood around with a goofy smile. He couldnt even defeat Amazo or a mirror image of himself. that said, when they made the TV show, he suddenly was more flushed out. He put on muscles. Lois stopped drooling over every man except him. I'd say the weakest part of the show is the minor characters and child actors. And even thats a reach, the show is pretty damn good. Some of the battles and on the spot problem solving is just *chef's kiss*
He's doing really well as Sephiroth, too. When the game, Final Fantasy 7 was being remade, fans were nervous and hesitant about the original cast getting replaced, because George Newbern was such a perfect fit for Sephiroth, but Tyler's really improved and become a great fit for that character.
@@FlaxeMusic He couldve just flown for proof. he couldve just shot a laser out of his eyes for proof. no, he carefully lifts the family truck and holds it in front of them, then carefully places it back down. That is a show of power, surely, but also an EXELLENT example of control to show to the youth, a lesson without forcing it to be. so Shinigami, thank you for also noticing something that might be small to some, but is actually huge to others. good eye !
@@BOZ_11 youre right, it isnt... good for you for coming to that conclusion on your own! its always great to see someone accomplishing things for themselves... 2023 is going to be a great year!
@@zaberfang A bit, yes. It is about balance, no one can be perfect. If we can be, then something's wrong or we are an exception going down to history lol
Yeah, the production values, the focus on Clark rather than Superman. I loved it but like all Superhero stuff, they get crazy. Instead of it being the story of an alien on Earth, it becomes a sci-fi with immortal all powerful beings, multiverses and supervillains. Just once I want them to make a show like this, where the bad guys are Lex Luther without powers. Just an evil crime kingpin who's untouchable and cunning.
Seriously, on this show we get awesome special effects that it belongs in a freaking zack Snyder film, but with the flash we get a guy running around all goofy like with lightning following him 🤦😔
@@TheMagicPillow HBO Max isn't funding anything. It is purely a CW show. The reason why the budget is bigger is, that CW wants to make original content with HBO Max financing, in the future, and the creators of the show wanted to make quality content for the fans, to keep up with competing streaming services.
@@T7S3A4T1M1 what are you saying, the cw is only producing and airing this show, HBO is financing, writing and filming it. P.S. HBO max is a streaming service, and you also said that Hbo isn't financing anything then proceed to say they are. To put it simply, get your facts right
"You may have been sent here to be a superhero, but you weren't sent here to be a father." "No, actually I was sent here to live my life, which my birth parents no doubt hoped could include a family."
It's Clark who insists that he was sent to Earth to be a superhero, and the Jor-El A.I. reinforced that. Notice that the A.I. seemed to equate superpowers with being able to carry on their Kryptonian heritage, even though Kryptonians didn't have superpowers on Krypton due to its red sun. This is apparently why Jor-El showed no interest in teaching the boys their *real* Kryptonian heritage, which is *science!* Clark certainly prioritizes superheroism over the well-being of his family (except for Lois).
@@daniels7907 well, it doesnt really help that he feels the weight of the world in his shoulders. Yeah their kids are right to be pissed, but that is the mos parent thing someone could do, make a mistake thinking it was for tje better, nd he made up for it in the seried
@@thebatman7347 - Except that Clark's obsessive and naive belief in living a "normal life" was constantly being proved to be stupidity given how many times the boys nearly got killed in their own home. Even for American high school students their lives are in a ridiculous amount of danger! Then there was pretty much all of season three, in which Intergang suddenly became untouchable because Peia Mannheim had cancer like Lois. That led to *Doomsday!*
"And you wouldn't have it any other way, would you dad?" I love how Jordan thinks because he isn't his favorite son he is hoping that he doesn't have his powers. Truth is, he just doesn't want to think the son who he seems to be the least trustworthy, responsible, and ready to have his powers, has his abilities because he realizes how much harder it would be on him. 😂😂😂
How awesome that Tyler went from playing the baseball league, to a werewolf to now one of the greatest superheros in comic history he really deserved it.
@@captainjefferies9047 batman, spiderman, oracle, Iron man(tony used to claim it was a bodyguard), the atom, beast, ant man(hank pim not the second one), any flash(not that the writers tend to use a brain that can learn things at a speed relative to light all that much)
@@theirishviking9278 No DC heroes are smart. That entire world is dumb. Spider-Man and Iron Man unmasked. They also had their full body covered when they were trying the secret identity thing. Everyone knows who the Beast is. I never read a story where Hank Pym had a secret Identity.
“When my planet…Krypton, was destroyed.” I love how you can tell that takes something for him to say. Admitting his identity is going to change his sons forever, and he still at the last second hesitates to bring them into that world and expose them to that life. Great acting
Tyler played this scene so well; love the moment when Jordan steps in close enough to recognize him and his eyes dart all over the place, he portrays the nervousness and discomfort Clark feels so well. You can tell he knows as soon as he says the word 'Krypton', they are going to figure it out.
It is evident in this scene that Clark finds it hard to admit who he is. He's been shielding them from the complexities he's lived with his entire life. What I don't understand is why they are angry. They are the sons of Superman.. they have played the genetic lottery we all play and they came up winners.
@@kathleenhensley5951 to be fair, they just discover they've lived their whole lives not knowing they are half-Kryptonian, and their dad has been sneaking around behind their backs saving the world, missing out on events in their lives while lying to their faces about it, then only told them about it when they accidentally stumbled on the truth; being upset is pretty understandable (in the comics Jon had a similar 'mom and dad stop bantering we just narrowly escaped with our lives and you dumped a huge secret on me can you please take it seriously omigod' moment)
It's going to be difficult when his son tells one of the kids at school that, "My dad can beat your dad." Unless, of course, the other kid's family name is Luther.
I love how she takes his glasses without having to be asked or looking down. Teamwork in even the little things is just one of the reasons Lois and Clark are able to stay together and make it work. A nice little lesson worked into the drama.
I think most people here are not getting why his sons never recognized him as Superman. Throughout their entire life up till now, they've only known him as Clark Kent, the mild-mannered average reporter who works at the Daily Planet. A normal man with a normal job and a normal life. His Clark Kent identity is so ingrained in their brains that they can't picture him as something other than that. Especially not the world's greatest superhero who saved the Earth countless times. Like if Clark Kent was my dad, then even if I noticed that he looked like Superman, I'd never bring it up. Because it would just sound too ridiculous in my head. The world's strongest and greatest hero who can go wherever he wants and do whatever he wants, and he's living like an average guy? No, I just don't see it happening. It'd be like accusing your dad of being a superspy just because you saw one who looked exactly like him.
Excuses. "I'd never bring it up", then you're in a minority. If most people were in that position with a dad who was a spitting image of the worlds one and only, strongest man, laser beam eyes who can fly, you have questions and you WOULD ask them, when you were young especially, "why does daddy look just like Superman". You're just covering very, very poorly for the fact that either wearing or not wearing a pair of glasses as a concealer of your identity is frankly pretty fucking stupid.
That's actually why Lex Luthor couldn't figure out that Clark Kent is Superman. He refuses to believe that Superman would choose such an ordinary, subpar life, because he is a godly being.
No child would ever react like this. If a kid, especially teenage sons, found out their parent was a superhero they would have a million questions and would be super excited but also confused. Having a super-powered dad would be the ultimate flex.
if you are developing powers and your parents knew why but never told you but instead say its not true, you are just imagining it, its you that is the problem for years that you start believing its your problem and that what you are feeling, hearing and smelling is all in your mind. Yeah, you would be pissed too whey they suddenly tells you the truth. That what you heard is because of super hearing, what you smelled was because of super smell, what you felt is due to your enhanced senses. I would be super pissed too.
I think if you have absentee and deceiving parents, and learn the truth, its hard to immediately come to terms with it. Especially on this level. They do understand later on, and are actually stoked about it. But I would say this is a pretty normal reaction.
I can understand some anger AFTER processing everything. But what kid would immediately be angry and triggered right after finding out their dad is Superman?
" _You may have been sent here to be a hero but you sure as hell weren't sent her to be a father_ " Damn! Clark may have skin tougher than steel but he certainly felt that one
Well, they're certainly not hiring better writers than Flash/Supergirl/Arrow. And I know they're just kids, but someone needs to hire a better acting coach for those lads. Simply awful.
This is the thing that a lot of people miss, when they dismiss Superman as being "too super". They forget that, although he is physically indestructible, he has the same emotional and psychological vulnerabilities as any human being. That's what makes him such an interesting character - his internal conflicts.
On the glasses thing. Its not just the glasses that fools people. Its clark whole difference in character, posture, voice, mannerisms etc. He often pretends to be a klutz, get hurt, get sick, lets normal people push him down etc. Plus hes a tallish dark haired white guy, thats not exactly a distinct look. Hell, Henry Cavill himself once walked around Times square in new York wearing a superman tshirt and nobody noticed him. Finally in the comics they also have tidbits like how his eyes are a very distinct shade of blue and the glasses mute the color a bit, and theres lots of times he uses his robots or shape shifting superheroes to show superman and clark kent in the same place at the same time. But most importantly its the notion people see superman as a godlike entity and their brains cant process someone like that would live a normal life, have a job, etc. In comics lex luthor had a computer tell him straight up clark Kent IS superman and he was convinced the computer was wrong bc he couldnt accept anyone that powerful would be someone as weak and dweeby as clark Kent.
Spot on. Christopher Reeves was brilliant at portraying just the full body act Clark would pull off in his two roles. Of course my favorite explanation remains from a JLA comic: "He doesn't wear a mask! I had no idea he had a... day job." (And there was another comic where Lex Luthor refused to believe Superman would ever play at being human too.)
That is true however what bugs me the most about it is the fact some people who know Clark well have seen without his glasses and then they will see Superman up close they look the same. I only give a pass to those who have never seen Clark without his glasses especially because some people look different with glasses on then they do with them off
@@kassylahens9780 that's literally the whole point of the comment it's not only the glasses and the face but also the mannerisms clark is a whole different character than superman
He's always talking about how sickly he is because that's how humans act. They complain about their ailments when every human has ailments. That was the point of him being put in a human body. He is Superman...inside a human body which is what makes it important. But I guess humans don't want to accept a leader in a human body. What do humans want? A monster like creature as a leader? A machine? A giant unlike their own size? What would they accept and respect?
What if your dad lied to you about your heritage for your entire life and even tried to convince you that you were crazy for recognizing that you were different?
@@ulysses4989 I didn't say he wouldn't understand why Clark did it, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have an emotional response to it, especially if they essentially gaslit him along the way.
Ok. What if your dad _and_ your mom were from another planet? 2 Different planets. _AND_ your grandparents are from another dimension?? *AANNND* your great-grandparents are from the future???
Theory: one of his superpowers induces face blindness for his face specifically, the glasses help give people something to remember him by, so they help the disguise by giving people something to latch onto, when he's wearing the superman suit people remember the costume rather than the face. People with face blindness are able to recognise that they're looking at a face, they can place facial expressions and all, but you could give someone like that a picture of their own face and they couldn't place it, they know people by other noticable traits. This is a more passive, less creepy version of the hypnobeam used in one of the comic book iterations to explain why no one recognises him.
It's more than just the glasses. It his movement, his tone of voice, his posture and mannerisms. And of course the rule of thumb is that everybody has a twin somewhere.
@@Artisan1979 Yup, also in comics Superman avoids close up of his face, and if he is getting recorded, he basically vibrates his face at super speed so his facial features are blurry, but no superman movie or tv show bothers to explain this.
Interesting point: One of the first powers Jordan manifested was super-hearing. When he talks about all the things that he had been feeling that made him feel crazy, you have to wonder if he was hyper-sensitive because everything sounded different to him, louder, more intrusive. It's notable that as his powers started to fully manifest and he learned to control them his psychiatric symptoms eased off considerably. You also have to question whether it was ever a good idea for his parents to feed him psych meds designed for Humans when they knew that he was half-Kryptonian and his neurochemistry would not be quite the same.
@@torquemada2 - True. But, as we have seen, Clark considers using Kryptonian technology for anything more than basic emergency situations to be "unfair" to the rest of the world. So Jordan had to live with taking meds that may not have helped at all because there were no clinical trials on Human/Kryptonian hybrids.
I've never watched the show, but he made his son dependent on crazy pills instead of telling him the truth about his powers in order to protect him from the "burden" as he says in this video? That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of, his son is right, he's not fit to be a father, let alone have those super powers.
@@invictuz4803 In the prologue of the first episode they say he has social anxiety and severe panic attacks. Although side note, the maudlin way Lois says it in the voiceover is like he's suffering from leukemia or cancer... But regardless, he didn't have any powers at that point and they didn't know if he ever would. So they put him on psych meds to deal with his anxiety, like most parents probably would if their kid was failing out of school.
It's not just the glasses. It's his posture, confidence, tone of voice and infliction. The glasses are actually the smallest part of it. He makes it so that people don't notice Clark and even think of Clark as this weaker more ordinary individual. The Christopher Reeve movies did it best. When he was Clark he slump over to make himself seem smaller and weaker, he stuttered and made himself look nervous, speaking with a higher pitch. Notice when he rips open the shirt... as he's doing so he stands taller, the look on his face becomes more intense and he slightly deepens his voice, speaking with more confidence. He makes is so that people look at him and wouldn't even associate him with being Superman.
Honestly. When Jonathan asked, "why". I was hoping Clark would just get this look on his face and gently stomp the ground causing a small earthquake. Show his boys how careful he needs to be every second of every day.
@@fohb7291 there's a comic, where he needs to get across universe so jumps off an uninhabited planet (destroying it). And gets to his location in under a second.
@@markdunham9634 not so much as annoying for me, as just to simple. In both delivery to us, but as a lesson to his sons about how focused and careful he's had to be their entire lives. Hell, have him stomp the ground shaking Smallville. Then have a scene of them by themselves soaking it in, and maybe seeing someone's video across town showing how far the quake reached, or having memories of the times he's held them or something now knowing how careful he was having to be.
I loved "Supergirl"; the first season in particular had really strong writing. Then it moved to the CW and started adopting some of the CW's bad habits, though it avoided most of them.
I think the 'glasses' disguise works, because these two had never seen Superman, not really. Think about this for a moment. Unless a person whom has been personally been rescued by Superman, no one sees him upclose. Most people are looking at Supes swooping through the air at a distance, or the lense of some media sound byte. Very few folks ever really get a good look at what Superman looks like. I would put Jordan and Jonathan in that category. Seeing something, doesn't always mean a person understands what they see. Distance is Clark's most effective disguise.
Bad guy from the future puts on glasses. "I'm Clark kent!" Takes off glasses, "I'm Superman!" Puts them back on "Clark Kent!" To Lois: "How does it feel to be the dumbest woman in history?!"
The boys crying about them not knowing is ridiculous. That’s why Oliver telling Thea about him being the Arrow and her reaction was the greatest. She is the only one in the Arrowverse who actually understood and wasn’t mad about a secret like that being kept. Everyone else always feels entitled to know. Oliver’s secret got their mom killed, and Thea still didn’t make a deal about it. why Jordans really crying cause he was jealous John might be the kid with the powers.
...To be fair, Jonathan and Jordan have been lied to for 14 years about the identity of their father, who is more absent than they wanted, unlike Thea. It's a little less comparable, but yeah, Thea's reaction is the ideal reaction.
Comparable to when iris found out about Barry and felt entitled to knowing his secret. Except that it didn't exactly concern her. As if we needed more reasons to dislike the bitch. Candice Patton is good actress tho
But the boys are half Kryptonian, they are not fully human. That is a big thing to try and process when you have grown up thinking otherwise. They are the sons of Superman, and because of this, Clark has been an absent father to them for the first 14 years of life. They were lied to every day, not just in word, but deed (i.e Clark falling off a ladder when trying to hang Christmas lights). I think their anger, resentment, fears etc. are justified. Plus, they are 14 year olds finding out a life-altering fact about themselves who haven't had time to let the enormity of this sink in before they let rip on their parents. It is a very well acted scene.
@@livingarrows ok ok they’ve been lied to their whole life, but absent father that’s to much. It’s a secret they should have known, but it’s a secret that they should have known when they got older. Kids speak the truth, and they easily could’ve said to one of their friends at the age of 5-8 that their dad is Superman. Hell Jordan being so in love, could end up telling his gf now. With the enemies Superman has, they have to understand the why. Oliver’s lies got their mother killed, and less than a year after Thea found out he was The Arrow. If anyone was suppose to be salty it should’ve been her, but throughout the whole Arrowverse she is the only one that took finding out a heroes secret the best
Well, Oliver was going around killing people, which would've made her and everybody who knew an accessory to murder. Like Diggle. Regardless of his intentions it still made Oliver a criminal.
I'm actually really intrigued by this show because of Clark and Lois moments but man his sons annoy the shit out of me. They take angsty teen to a whole different level for literally NO REASON, and I'm an angsty teen. Like wtf, it's literally one of the biggest reasons I haven't watched the series thru yet, all the unnecessary angsty and cringey moments.
Honestly something I find refreshing about the show is how well written Jordan and John are. They get upset but they don’t draw out the teenage conflicts and they have more good moments than bad
@@sayitsayuri8951 yes but even johnathan is really annoying sometimes. Like whenever they need a B plot they just have one of the brothers get upset about something.
The theme music that is playing is a variation of the Christopher Reeve Superman Movies "Krypton" Theme. edit 2023-24: I love how the cinematography was so well thought out that they created wind resistance as he was flying the truck up into the air, you can actually see his arms flexing up and down to compensate for it. I also love that so many shows or movies of Superman point back or have a reference to Christopher Reeves Superman movies. I realize before Christopher Reeves there were others and other to come after, but his first two movies really were groundbreaking for their time and they are still referenced 40 years + later, they truly brought Superman into our world, so much more than the TV shows that came before it. I really like this show and wish they would renew for a new season or two with HBO Max or Netflix. Such a shame because this show really had a lot of talent in it. When you show respect to the Superman of yester-years, the Superman of today truly does become the Man of Tomorrow.
I've never seen the show, but decided to click because I was curious, and oh my God, I can't stop laughing 😂😂😂 The "I've seen Superman!" thing where Clark takes off his glasses, like what?! Are you saying that his own kids have never seen their dad without glasses before? I mean, his disguise of wearing glasses has always been funny, but I've always thought about it from a comic stand point; thinking of it from a real-life practical standpoint? That is hilarious 😂😂😂
Tyler Hoechlin does an amazing job as both Clark and Superman. Just like Christopher Reeve, he's playing 2 different roles. This is not a knock against Henry Cavill either, since he did a great job, but he didn't have to portray 2 different characters in the same sense that Reeve and Hoechlin did.
Plus, Henry Cavill's Superman had to contend with Lois Lane yelling "Clark!" at the top of her voice, every time she saw him, regardless of who could overhear. It would have been pointless him pretending to be a different character.
@@CCEkeke honestly i havent watched muxh of this show bc of how they made jordan out to be the stereotypical whinny kid and im tempted to give the show another try bc tyler is just THAT good at playing this charavter
It would have been so perfect if the music, that starts when he takes off his glasses, wouldn't change. The pure dramatic strings are so good to represent the boys feeling while understanding who he is.
Love that hommage to the 1st superman cover. Man, I had avoided this show cause it was associated with supergirl, but just that one scene makes me want to watch it now.
@@maythesciencebewithyou It absolutely would lol. Clark Kent is supposed to be just a random guy. Superman is not. Accusing a random guy of being Superman just because he kinda looks like like him will absolutely not work. Anyone trying to pull that would be branded crazy/delusional within minutes.
