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"Notice these men preying on girls aren't befriending 16 year old boys as their peers? It's almost like they actually understand 16 year olds are children." - Jess Pected
@@BobFudgeethe evidence is that she’s been saying this for YEARS without name dropping Cody, and further is that an entirely different person(gabbie), who also didn’t name drop him, YEARS ago talked about how she was at that same party, pulling an adult away from an underage girl saying she was underage and to stop going after her, and then the dude had sex with the teenager anyways. Literally the exact events, the same party, etc. Brother you are doing some mental gymnastics trying to backwards bend yourself into the ‘no evidence’ thing. You really think a 17 year old coordinated a story with gabbie 8 years ago, agree to not name drop, and specifically bring it up now? Brother you think they were planning 8 years ahead like they were masterminds??? 💀💀
@@BobFudgeei mean u want her to go back in time and record their sexual encounters ? 😭🤦 they have known each other since that age and have been in many vids together , it isn’t too far off
EXACTLY! D’Angelo basically pushed for it to happen. He literally called out the big commentary channels for saying nothing. Charlie had people asking him to make a video a year ago, and spamming his chat for the last month. If D’Angelo didn’t literally call out the community Charlie would never talk about Cody Ko, because it’s Cody Ko, not a low hanging fruit. I love Charlie but this one is on D’Angelo.
@@healthycathy9782Yes. There is a clip from a while ago of someone waiting until a quiet moment where Charlie is reading chat and then donating a TTS message asking him to talk about the Cody situation and he ignores it, even after the chat starts asking him to talk about it too.
@@healthycathy9782Yeah i fw charlie but it shouldnt have took another youtuber to call out the commentary community for him to say something, he’s arguably the largest commentary channel
@@purringbluzzmuffin8030the age of consent in Nigeria is eleven, does that make it moral for an 18 yr old to fuck an 11 yr old. I wouldn’t say so, even though it’s technically legal dosen’t mean it’s right and what Cody ko did wasn’t moral or legal
he isn't gonna say a word, dude has a wife and kids now, if anything he will silently leave the internet and live off of everything he has built so far
I hope he stays around I love Cody despite what the cancel culture thinks of him. Edit: after seeing how events have unfolded following the initial story coming out I can’t defend him, the evidence has become to damning and don’t want to support him anymore or continue replying to comments 🫶🏽 thanks to those of you who I had good mature discussions with
@@QuickMoDzHDthis is unhinged. We can all acknowledge that cancel culture has gotten out of hand in certain situations. But this situation isn’t one of those, he should 100% be held accountable for this kind of shit.
"17 is less than 18" that's some brave statements charles Edit: Please please please watch D'Angelo Wallace's video before asking "where's the evidence tho". Yes cody ko is a funny and likable guy on the internet while tana often appears annoying. But don't assume you know what kind of a person someone is just from their online persona. Keep an open mind y'all!
Just because someone doesn't have a favorable personality doesn't mean they are undeserving of respect. Just because someone appears to have a favorable personality doesn't mean they can run away without accountability.
@@igotthefeelsformomonot only that, but this is just an allegation, there’s no evidence of it happening. If it did, he’s a scumbag for it, for sure. But she needs to understand her role in this and how what she did is also unacceptable. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing as well. 17 is old enough to understand that hooking up with someone older than you is NOT OK. Just like if this happened, Cody is a grown man and knew full well she was underage and he decided to do it anyway and that’s wrong. They’re both wrong though. She’s not absolved of her blame if this happened. Don’t support either of them, they’re both garbage.
@@gearzofwar123 I don't understand how you can blame a literal minor for not understanding that it's wrong. the adult in that situation is 100% in the wrong
@@leona344i would say 100 percent the adult is in the wrong especially if it was rpe but if tana agreed and wasnt forced to hook up then it is also kinda her fault but adult is still in the wrong also
The craziest part of gabby telling him she was underage is knowing that people are watching what you’re doing, pointing out what you’re doing is illegal/wrong, and then still doing it. How does that not deter you at all
Heya! There’s something else to this nobody has added yet! When Cody was 24/25, he dated a high-schooler from Laguna Beach named EB. This was around 2015, when he was making the transition from Vine to RU-vid vlogging videos. The vlogs really do have so much information about his past inappropriate habits. He would hang around a LOT of high schoolers, including EB and her friend, RS. There’s links to RU-vid videos on Reddit with Cody kissing EB, and at the time, EB had only just turned 18 in May, two months prior to the video. There are also videos where he (Cody) and his friend group obnoxiously flirt with RS. I don’t know if RS and EB were the only two girls, but they were certainly the most prevalent. You can check this for yourself, but this is fact. Please spread this around so we can get more attention on it!! This shows Cody has repetitive inappropriate behaviors concerning minors.
Also was anyone else slightly thrown off by the constant scat jokes he was making? Dude might be even more perverse than we know. Every scenario he ever joked about had literal shit brought up for no reason
@@STANKGOD-420”it’s not a nothing burger that someone squeezed out of their asscheeks” literally a minute and 15 seconds in Charlie says this, come on.
FYI Charlie Penguinz0 is FAKE , me and my friends kept telling him to cover Tana Cody ko for month now, he even saw our insta Stories sent him All proofs & he ignored it ! He’s only speaking now after D’angelo exposed the commentary RU-vidrs for not speaking & protecting their friend Cody ko
So much of his vids would age with milk if anything like this was posted on moist, probably was always the spineless nerd tho so not very likely I guess
I mean back then he wasn't like this online sooo he definitely hasn't changed regardless of allegations, it's good he talks about shitty men online that's doesn't exactly get negated just because you suddenly conveniently hate a person, but idk since I haven watched him forever
Why the hell are some people trying to defend the creep in this situation by stating how some ages of consent are lower in different countries? Absolutely disgusting…
Shows you how people really think… and how you get Cody Kos and DrDisrespects. They live with us man, they’re people too, no matter how disgusting… always watch yourself folks.
@@shockwave826 I agree, as a non american woman in my early 20s Im finding this reaction a bit crazy idk. I mean just above this comment someone was talking ab how 17 year olds are children and i’m just thinking that there’s no way they’re being for real like yeah maybe 17 and 24/25 is kind of weird but ppl are acting like it’s a 9y/o child and a 50y/o man, it’s insane.
@@merlin3 Cody Ko said the nword multiple times, and released an apology that was locked behind a paywall so most of his audience wouldn't see it, or hear about it.
The fact that Gabbie Hanna intervened, told him her age, and he still went for it is mad weird. Like it'd be one thing if he genuinely didn't know, but he was straight up told and didn't care.
@@avesander Let me try to explain. She was a minor unable to give consent, she was a fan of his making the power dynamic very weird, and there is NEVER justification for a 25 year old man with his frontal lobe fully developed to be sleeping with a high school aged girl.(especially because she was below the age of consent)
Yeah, according to most of humanity billions of people 17 is an adult. But yeah, 17 is such a child in america, first if you are 17 you are automatically brain dead, and she just stopped with diapers a week before she lied her into the party with the older dudes.
17 is still a minor, but definitely not a child lol. It's funny when y'all act like 17 is a "child" in cases like this, but any other time people get upset when older teens are referred to as kids.
Ok, I think there is a distinction between a teenager and a child bc I would also say an 18 year old is still mentally a teenager but they’re allowed to consent. My thing is, you shouldn’t be sleeping with a teenager. Teenagers are still in a group that can be/is often taken advantage of, and we need to start pushing that narrative more. And the fact that he was WARNED and still proceeded to engage is already crazy enough and leaves me without a doubt he would go lower.
He asked 'Why do I need to point it out that stuff like this is bad'? Something I've been noticing was that a lot of anime have been reflecting this kind of mindset as BAD (coughcough Mushoku tensei) so they could have their cake and eat it too.. Example : The plot of the aforementioned show tries to act like it's 'the MC learned their lesson, sexualizing and taking advantage of children is bad', but in actuality it's not. It leads a lot of people to make excuses for these kind of characters, like Rudy; who straight up grooms, molests, and rapes kids as a ~45 year old grown man trying his best to portray himself as an actual child, so he had a better chance at getting away with the things that he'd done.. Only for the show to try to justify their actions as not bad, or a joke (haha funny 'wake up or ill attack you' while theyre asleep while playing silly music as theyre getting molested); or even worse.. them 'getting better' somehow, even though he has his arms wrapped around his 'wife' he deflowered at 16 (then put the blood stain from the hymen break in his ''shrine'') and in the other, his cousin; both of which he groomed, molested, and raped. It's horrifying thinking about the lengths people will do to justify his actions, not gunna lie. Another example would be a lot of the vtubers (and in general just vtubing popping off) like gura, which is legit an adult acting like a child anime girl towards a mostly adult audience. I remember recently they popped on a screen during a baseball game and sung the pledge of allegiance; only for the adults to think it was just some character from a kids cartoon... can you blame them? I fear for them if they looked them up on google, considering how much their eyebrow would raise in even their promotional art. And you'll still see people defend this kind of stuff by going 'it's fiction' or 'theyre actually 9001 years old so its fine', and those same types of people usually leak into being a big contributor of the same question you're asking now. Why is this related to real life, when it's 'fiction'? Well, I know this is surprising to hear this for some people (especially the ones who will go 'imagine comparing fiction to real life'); while you can't fully compare your opinions on fictional media (just kus you kill people doesnt mean youre gunna do it in real life) to real life, there's definitely some things you can take from someone liking or doing certain things, especially depending on the kind of media you're watching. It's not that I think that someone would become Rapist Rudy because they enjoy stuff like Mushoku Tensei; it's that watching media that sexualizes kids that are under 18, especially one that's incredibly hypocritical in the idea that it tries to act like they're 'getting better but not really because most of the characters, world and even the show itself says otherwise regardless of being one of the main plot points' really helps desensitize people towards these kind of things in the 'wrong' type of way BECAUSE it's fictional, and can use that excuse.. which definitely leaks into the real world due to how popular anime is now. I mean hell, the millitary recruiters at the con I went to legit had multiple Call of Duties to play at their booth to attract potential people to recruit. It's not about them being potential killers, it's about them being more 'desensitized' and 'attracted' towards this stuff. The fact I have to explain this to people who make excuses about it being 'fiction', hits home on the issue I'm talking about. It reminds me of the very people who would argue that it's ''fictional so noone gets hurt'; or who would call others 'tourists' whenever someone pointed out how grotesque it was that they were sexualizing some kid in an anime for the hundredth time or something.. As if that somehow makes you look any better. thank you for my tl;dr ted talk
People are forgetting that he’s 25. He wasn’t in highschool with her and turned 18 while dating her or graduated. He was literally a working adult that’s 25 getting with a high schooler
Suppose she started working at 14 like some people actually do and was managing the house like some 14 year olds actually do and he was a 25 year old rich kid that never had real responsibilities and only parties? Who’s the more mentally mature one in that situation? I’m not saying this was the case here, but there’s more to it than just listing age when you’re thinking about who’s more mature and wise.
@@jameslog3431 i bet YOU wouldn't bat an eye with the way u are saying that "she consented" A child legally cannot consent btw. And I'm calling it what it is, 17 years old is still a child. at 25 it's a 8 year difference, must be chronically online browsing reddit to think that that's normal
@@jameslog3431i completely agree with this. male victims are so frequently dismissed, but that doesn't mean that cody didn't fuck up BIG TIME or that we should ignore female victims too. it means we should recognise both and not let people be weird
@@forg-du5dr In 40 other states, it's perfectly legal to have sex with her in this situation. The only reason you think it's "morally wrong" is because you were raised by TV and movies, which typically adhere to California ethics. Is it weird? Sure. Should his entire career be ruined for it? Absolutely not. Calling him a predator is asinine.
The problem with "17 is basically 18" is that 18 is the MINIMUM age of consent. It is ALREADY at the limit. There is no room to shave that down; it's actually already kind of a danger zone to be sleeping with 18 year olds if you're 25. And if it really is that close, wait.
It’s a vicious cycle of deniability, as well, because 16 is also “basically” 17. And what’s basically 16? 15. 14’s not that far from 15. But 13’s “basically” 14, too. It doesn’t end; it’s a silly defense for this 💩
@@johnhenry4844 Do you have a response to the argument, though? Apart from that, why does a minor having intimacy preciously make it okay for an adult to do it with them? That’s the average age, by the way. Don’t exaggerate.
@@quesadilla9957 What’s the difference then, who cares, acting like tana was untouched and innocent at 17 is ridiculous, age of consent is 16 in my country and girls always fling themselves at older guys then cry about it at 30, pathetic take responsibility for spreading legs
@@johnhenry4844 having sex with dsomeone your age is different than having sex with someone way older than you, specially when you are this young and easy to manipulate.
Once D’Angelo did his video Cody’s official downfall was guaranteed. He was sneaking by before, but now d’angelo has made it impossible for people to ignore it without seeming suspicious
@@ThecrazyJH96 He did do this, but honestly he did not really give them what they deserved. The commentary community has practically deputized itself as the sole arbiter of this type of thing on youtube and almost salivates over getting to report this kind of story, but suddenly when it's someone in their own house and the victim isn't sympathetic to their audience? "Well I don't think we need to commentate on that specific subject." Despite it being a tale as old as time there's just something about it that is just extra disgusting in this particular case. I think it was their false moral superiority for me. I kinda feel like someone should be saying "to SHREDS you say?" about the commentary community right now. Edit: A friend pointed out to me that given Charlie's damn near shocked reaction I might be being too harsh on the commentary community and he's right. It is kind of unbelievable that over the course of multiple years, with Tana not really making any efforts to hide this event that it has somehow never made it's way back to Charlie before this. So either Charlie is telling lies, or others are, and given the track record it's probably not Charlie. So someone's keepin' secrets.
Yeah, its worrying that people with HUGE platforms didn't speak until they were called out and scared about this affecting themselfs ... not saying Charlie, moist, doesn't care, from what I know he usually DOES talk about stuff like this, but still, we need push for large creators to speak up, always, and even more important, acknowledge and talk about when and WHY they felt like they couldn't/wouldn't 😅 And I mean TALK, not just immediately accuse people ofcs, I mean just talk about what's happening in a fair way, like Wallace did
I’m 25 and remember being 17. I KNOW how far from being an adult I was at that age and Cody would have too. The fact that he still did it after being told Tana’s age is what’s sickening.
When do you personally think that people are old enough? I'm curious because it is difficult for me to imagine that someone could be much different between 17 and 18 just because of a birthday, so even 18 would seem too young if 17 is. Then people seem barely more mature at 19, they even seem foolhardy and childlike at 20. It keeps going from there, so when, despite arbitrary numbers in various legal systems, do you personally think that one is truly able to consent or is mature enough to not be exploited?
@@aFoxyFox.well i’ve seen several 25 year olds saying that 17 year olds seem like children still to them in this comment section. i can’t speak from their perspective, but as a 17 year old girl, i still feel like a child compared to anyone over 21. i’ve been working the same job since i was 14, and have coworkers in their mid 20s. i feel like it’d make me highly uncomfortable even if i turned 18 and they tried anything. all that cody knew was she was underage and a fan. gabbie didn’t even say her age it seemed like the way she put it. she said she told him tana was “underage”.
@@olivesaregreener then why were u looking at videos of 17 year old Tana dressed like a "street lady" you're just as much a predator urself. If u really believe what u claim then u wouldn't even be watching her video shown here.
@ryleighleasure1538 it's def disgusting, dude is gross. But it's a bit ironic because growing up there were swaths of 16 and 17 year old girls using fake IDs to get in down town clubs, a lot of whom would be aiming to hook up. It's like as adults we have to realize there are underage teens out drinking and clubbing actively attempting to hook up with adults.
It definitely feels like Cody has been relying on the fact that Tana is seen as a controversial and unlikable figure so he knew people would jump to discredit her and defend him. If he did this to a 17 year old Emma Chamberlain, there's NO WAY this many people would've turned a blind eye and ignored this story for so long.
You know what Kelsey and Cody did to a 16 year old Emma chamberlain tho?? 😬 gave her her first juul hit on camera. She looked up to them and they did that. And now she has a nicotine addiction. So yikes (as an understatement). I recommend watching the video, it's weird
@@KhumalosWitness ok, but the fact that of all people it is Tana Mongeau who is accusing him should raise a few red flags. She is notorious for lying for money and attention so yes people should investigate, however, her story does not include any solid evidence that Cody Ko is guilty and Tana Mongeau is known for lying so you need to remember this before you start labelling Cody Ko a predator.
@@SS0895 You’re comparing illegal acts with minors to acts between two consenting adults. Seek help 👍🏼 Also I’m bisexual so idk who you’re preaching to but you sound uneducated
When you're 17 you feel so old and mature, but when you're 25 it's so obvious that a 17 year old is a child. It's nasty and predatory. **Editing to add** It’s wild that there are so many adult men writing lengthy replies to this comment and others ARGUING for why they should be able to date teenagers. “Why is 18 okay and not 17?”, “A 17 year old dating a person in their 20s is equally guilty”, “when I was 17 I was emotionally mature”, "17 isn't a kid", “It’s not 18 everywhere”, etc. This is.. uh.. a concerning hill to die on, fellas. There are millions of adults out there for you to date. I'm not sure why you are looking for loopholes or to rationalize why you should be able to date kids. 17 is a kid, and what's tricky is when you are 17 you don't feel that way - I certainly didn't - but in hindsight, when you're much older, that should be clearer. In fact, legality of it aside, I think it's still dicey when you see 18/19/20 year olds being pursued by people 10+ years older than them. Just developmentally / life-stages-wise, why are you looking to be with someone who is mentally so much younger and more impressionable than yourself. It’s a total waste to interact with these people, but I wanted to leave a note here to anyone reading this who has been through this type of situation that your feelings are valid, whatever they may be, and I’m sorry if what happened to you hurt you / confused you / caused damage to you.
@@tauhid9983imaging holding a fucking teenager responsible for what a 25 year old did. The lengths people go to try to protect predators is insane. Yeah man the poor little fully grown adult really isn't at fault because this highschooler went along with what they were asked to do
@@tauhid9983 17 is underage, full stop. I'm not going to argue with people online with concerning opinions about that (but you should really check yourself if you think she's in the wrong in this situation).
@@avender93 i mean unless the allegations imply… the 17 year old got physically or psychological forced into the sexual act then sure “full stop”. But I see two ppl comiting a crime. Ppl can argue left right and centre about age of Consent regardless the law says sexual acts with a minor is unlawful which ppl should accept. Doesn’t mean the other party all of a sudden do not share any responsibility. If It’s two ppl of their own free will engaged in a crime both share the blame
The age of consent is 16 in the majority of states in America. 31 out of 50. In most of Europe its also around 16, in my home country Australia its 16 in almost every states and 17 in south Australia.
@@yuppieshrink9837But does that mean it's morally correct in those countries? NO, even 18 year olds are still children in my eyes. Instead of having relations with someone that is way below your age (and BELOW the age of consent), have relations with someone that is like idk... the same age as you????
Which I mean in that case 16 is basically 15, which in that case 12 months would basically be a fetus, which is basically sperm at that point Yknow? Sorry this prolly wasn’t funny I just wanted to continue the joke
and if 17 is basically 18, then its basically 19 which is basically 20, etc... wait, it is easier to understand in reverse.... 30 is basically 15, thats how most 30 years old are, lol
This woman can’t even talk about her abusive childhood because her father would sue her. Then she got dog piled for talking about being approached in an inappropriate manner when she was underage. Likeable or not, that’s really awful and it’s almost like her life has had the tone set where she just can’t come forward with any form of abuse anymore. No one should have to live like that.
True. I remember when bhad bhabie came out about the dr phil ranch that they'd send the problem kids like her to and all the abuse they suffered and alot of people online did support her but a bigger amt didn't and obviously dr Phil's diehard fans could care less. It's a shame. Bring it back even further and you got Courtney Stoddard, who was just fifteen or so when she married an older famous guy (his name's not worth remembering) and all of media and the public slut shamed her. I'm talking big names like Anderson Cooper and in the dms Christie Teagan was telling her to delete herself. This mindset hasn't died of in everyone and that's sad.
@@Vanessa-xx3yzBrooke Shields is another whom always comes to mind, she was 11-years-old during filming of Louis Malle’s ‘Pretty Baby’. Also Paris Hilton at Provo Canyon, Britney Spears…
I feel like D’Angelo is taking revenge because Cody said N word long time ago foolishly. D’Angelo does not care abt Tanna that much, D’Angelo just want revenge.
the way he texted tana “are we good” and “my wedding is coming up” his wedding was Feb 2023 like DAMN he still stressing ab that shit “coming out” like its not her just telling her story 😬😬
I’m sorry, if someone said I did this to them and I didn’t do it, I would come forward immediately and say this isn’t true and use my money to sue them for defamation. His silence says more than a lot.
@@kab9706 I agree, I’m just emphasizing that him not saying anything looks really bad. Any normal person who didn’t do it would come out and deny immediately
It’s simple. Kody saw a young girl willing to throw herself at him, desperate for attention, and took advantage of that and her naivety. She’s an adult now, she clearly regrets it now, because that’s what happens when you grow up. You regret being taken advantage of because you know better now. This isn’t a love story this is a cut and dry “Cody wanted to have sex with and take advantage of a minors willingness to want to be famous” I don’t like Tana. But I definitely understand the power balance at play. If Cody just came out about it he’d have a better chance at damage control, but censoring this for so long has done way more damage to his image and brand. Because people are upset and started digging. And discovered he’s besties with an actual rapist, and him and his wife have a history of hanging out with teenage girls, giving them vapes, etc. just weird shit! It’s 2024, don’t hang out with teenagers if you’re an adult. Simple. They are not at your level mentally even if they or you think otherwise.
she literally said she had been a fan of him since she was a kid- which is crazy to think about considering she was 17. and she was at a party drinking alcohol. she was clearly so vulnerable where she may have been willing but was clearly being taken advantage of. I wonder if Cody asked her not to tell anyone- esp if Gabbi noticed. If so- that's literally the definition of grooming. Telling a minor "hey can we keep this a secret, you wouldn't want people to cancel me for statutory would you ? 🥺" The more you think about the situation the more obviously gross it becomes.
Idk much anout Tana but from what I do know she had a rough home life growing up, and dealt with addiction/substance abuse issues. She wasn't just a teenager she was a particularly vulnerable one
i am almost 25 and when i am around 17-18 year olds, they come across soooo young to me. a LOT of mental development happens between 20-25. not only was she so young, she was a FAN. he was taking complete advantage of her and it is so gross and disappointing
Yes, there’s a huge difference! It’s crazy how people are defending this, acting like seventeen is a perfectly appropriate age because it’s legal in some states. Places where the age of consent is 16, mean it’s legal for 16 and 17 year olds to sleep with each other. Not a 25 year old!
I don’t know why the “17 is basically 18” argument is a thing. You don’t expect a bouncer to let you in a bar if you are 20 because your basically 21, if you are 15 you don’t expect to get a drivers license because your basically 16. These rules aren’t negotiable, you are either above or under the legal age of stuff there’s no gray area. Edit: For those saying “But the age of consent is *Blank* in this state so actually…” That’s not how the law works. If you sleep with a 16 year old in a state where the age of consent is 18 you are breaking the law. The age of consent varies from 12 to 21 years old across the world that doesn’t change the fact that if you sleep with someone under the age of consent you are breaking the law even if it’s different somewhere else.
Yeah, by that logic 16 is basically 17. If 17 is ok so 16 should be too right. It's such a gross nonsensical rule made by people who just want to take advantage of minors. And pretty much everyone of these people are in or over their mid twenties which should indicate their intentions.
Guys you do know this 18 is the limit is only in SOME parts of the world. Italy has it at 16 I think. Mexico at 14. Literally if he had sex with her at Italy he would be fine but now in America it’s pedo? lol
I live in Japan, where legal age is 16. However, it's considered weird for someone who's, like, 25, like Cody Ko, to have sex with a 16 year old. Whether it's legal or not, it's still fucking weird.
The argument that she was 17 which is basically 18 is wild to me. I’m three years younger than Cody was at the time of the incident, and the idea of doing what he did is so wrong to me. That’s a child. Even now, I wouldn’t date anyone younger than 21, that’s weird.
Realizing years later that what happened to you as a teen was basically r*pe must be such a weird experience. She says that she doesn't feel first hand traumatized but is aware that it could possibly be showing up on her in different ways. my heart goes out to her, unfortunately many of us women know how hard it is to cope with abuse/harassment
@@Divi77e cody was told before that she was 17 and still went through with it.. its not like tana lied about her age to sleep with him. it was a well known fact. and he KNEW she was a long time fan of his.
@@ccmiller9615 Idk where this took place I’d assume the US but in the US most states do have 17 as the age of consent. So if she consented then it was perfectly legal, however again it depends on which state it took place in.
I’m assuming most of the comments defending Cody are from teenagers who don’t understand why this is so disgusting because they just haven’t had the life experience to understand. As a 24 year old: please know that you will grow up SO much in the next few years. I am a completely different person from who I was at 17. You may not feel like it now, but once you get to the age Cody was when he slept with tana, 17 year olds will seem like actual babies to you. The maturity gap is insane. If you’re in your twenties or older defending this nonsense: someone needs to check your hard drive.
Yeah its kind of strange im 18 turning 19 in the next month and I grew up on youtube and the internet. So anytime I see something like this where it is with someone who is 16 plus it feels wierd because when I look at it logically it is not ok and I never defend the people who do this stuff exactly for that reason but as a 18 year old I (Wrongfully I know) feel that people near my age are capable of consent and that they can tell whats right and wrong. It also feels like there is not that much difference between me and someone in their 20s (again I logically know there is)
@@lucastobin6454 it's not wrong for you to think people 1-2 years from you in age are able to consent. because in relation to you they can. And here's how to make it easier for you to actually 'feel' instead of just rationally knowing how wrong the late teen-mid twenties age gap is: imagine your 17yo peer being interested in a 12yo. both are minors, but super fucked up, right?
Usually states with lower age of consent laws those age of consent don’t apply if you’re over 21. They’re designed so a high schooler doesn’t go to jail for sleeping with their 2 years younger partner
@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 absolutely not incorrect. A lot if most states have statutes when they have age of consent under the age of 18 making it null and void to people over 21 to prevent predator pervs like the ones trying to defend Cody Ko.
Age of consent is difficult even in law when it comes to certain cases. Most of the time though, if you are age of consent, you can be with anyone else also under age of consent, no matter the age difference. However, courts would look at the case specifically and try to identify other markers of power imbalance in a relationship, IE someone being someone's boss, someone being a teacher etc. But, legally speaking, being a minor, but over age of consent doesn't matter that much in law regarding sexual conduct. In most states it's 16, another chunk is 17 and the least common is 18. People just use 18 as the overall one because it is the highest and therefore safe in every state age and considered federal age of consent. There are laws regarding people under age of consent with others also under age of consent, which might be what you were thinking of. I don't however know how it works if two people from different states with different laws work. I think most courts wouldn't care or take a case, unless there were other legal matters at play between high schoolers of whatever age ranges being with each other. Courts are aware that teens have sex and usually in 3 years or so their age range. Laws differ in different states and it's considered illegal to try to cross state lines so that the sexual relationship is "legal" in that state. Basically, you'd need to talk to a lawyer to really know or not. Easier to just assume 18. Second the law specifically pertains to sex consent. It is not illegal to date or have a relationship with someone under consent range. A 15 year old could date a 20 year old so long as sex isn't involved, say in the case of two asexuals or people waiting till marriage or similar. That said, courts would generally doubt that if the people are together that sex or sexual acts aren't involved.
@@vixxcelacea2778 of the states and US territories with consent ages under 18 years 18 of them have age restrictions in which the age of consent is only legal within a certain amount of years, compared to 23 that allow unrestricted at under 18. Of those numbers it’s pretty smart to just assume you at 25 can’t fuck a 16 year old regardless of age of consent. It’s about a 50/50 chance you get got for it.
literally americans who dont understand concepts like love and standards in the comment section: if it is 1 second before turning 18 it is the most evil thing in the world, if that second passes and you do a move then, its ok
@@eliyarrows2456 except she was 18 you wanna be fortune teller, my turn to play the guessing game "i know she is a run over old ass 3rd rate option, but we are in love! and somehow i feel super bitter when i see people with younger and prettier women so... i ll call them creeps to feel better!" -you you probably think a woman can do porn when she is of age but god forbid she does this porn with someone who isnt the age that you personaly dont feel comfy with! god forbid that dudes are having sex with hotter women than you can pull!
This is why Dr Disrespect's victim's name was heavily protected. Because Twitch knows that victims get blamed, ridiculed, and sent death threats. The side-by-side is wild, and is exactly why you should never pressure victims with shit like "Why didn't you report it earlier"
I don't think a saw a single person ask for the name of the victim in the Dr Disrespect situation. Most people were asking about the victim's age. People were mad that Twitch never reported that information publicly and even mad jokes about the reason for the ban.
@@GexraldH they didn't ask because they don't care...this is about public executions just like what Charles is doing here...he needs to stfu about this matter unless there's obvious evidence for it and its not 1 year difference...it isn't worth risking defamation for which this is...girls lie all the time about their ages (makeup exists)
so happy some bigger youtubers are covering this. D'Angelo is by no means small, but the impact you have on bringing this situation to light is unfathomably large, charlie. thank you so much for talking about it.
Him and swoop always go above and beyond, puts other commentary channels to shame just a bit. Like coffeezillas of internet culture and drama scene instead of fraud and finance
@@real_surreal_sir i couldn't agree more. i love swoop, she does such intricate, detailed deep dives that really bring to light deeper implications as well as the situation at hand.
If you watched D’Angelo’s video he basically pushed hard for this response from Charlie and others to finally happen. He literally called out the big commentary channels for saying nothing. And D’Angelo literally said H3 covered this, it was not “a thing that one person said on one livestream and then deleted”. Charlie had people asking him to make a video a year ago, and spamming his chat for the last month. If D’Angelo didn’t literally call out the community Charlie would never talk about Cody Ko, because it’s Cody Ko, not a low hanging fruit. Charlie literally tries to explain himself here and doesn’t show most of the video where D’Angelo talks about the “boys club” of commentary content. I love Charlie but this one is wack!
@@shscks i'm not shading charlie but d'angelo literally said why: it was swept under the rug and those who knew about it tried to hide it as much as they could. only recently has new interest for it been renewed. i've watched cody ko for years and i've never heard of this, despite being around when this happened.
Some states are upwards of 4 years. Some people see “16 is the age of consent” but don’t realize that includes Romeo and Juliet laws meaning the max age someone can be with a 16 year old is 20. Depending the state. But when I was in HS we would always clown dudes going for girls in a lower grade. There’s a reason they go for lower grade girls… cus they can’t get a girl in their own grade
@@meatwadsprltehonest question do you consider my grandpa to be a pedophile because my granny had her first kid when she was 15 and he was 18? (They were 17 and 14 when they met) They were each others first and only love. They have been married for about 60 or so years and they are both successful people's. They still love each other and I try to emulate their love in my relationship with my gf. Why do people freak out over a grade or two difference or of a couple of years? Crazy stuff. Edited for more context.
@@GiantGunt_EthanRalph no ur grandpa isnt a pdf file because of that lol... a pdf file is someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent kids. these people that pursue minors are creeps. not necessarily pdf files.
Trisha Paytas was talking about this on her podcast two months ago. When she was pointing out how Britney Broski won’t work with Tana but will work with her abuser Cody Ko. TWO MONTHS AGO. It’s crazy how long this took to pop off
Ok let's calm down he's not her "abuser" 😂 from what I've heard it was consensual and tana has been doing what she's doing from way before that point out of her own volition as well. No abusing took place
and there also exist 17 year olds who are actual even heros of humanity, idols yall simp for, etc, who are far more mature and intelligent that the vast majority of 25+ year olds... so? what do we get from that then in this case? 🤔
@Gnsd45 we're looking st your hard drives next you creep. Seventeen is seventeen and the law is clear, this isn't a case of self defense turned permanent nap. There is no nuisance here, he wasn't eighteen or nineteen at the time he was in his mid-twenties. If it happened it's illegal and gross.
@@H-mz4hy exactly. a 25 year old should know better than to get with someone who is 17 years old. 17 year olds are literally still in highschool usually.
@@briitt777and after a year she became a mature adult? I don't hate Tana I laughed at her click bait videos how many years ago sure but I bare no ill will I didn't even know of Cody Co. I just don't think this is a huge scandal as portrayed because Tama doesn't seem to say he forced her or groomed her just that they hooked up sure the implications of him still sleeping with her after someone told him she was 17 are weird to put it lightly but shouldn't automatically condemned him since if they happened to be somewhere else no one would be talking about it Cody Co should definitely talk about it because him being silent to me atleast implies it probably wasn't the first time he's done this Tana shouldn't be getting attacked and if she wants to pursue it the legal system should resolve it. Edit: so it seems from other comments here they've pointed out Cody Co again at 25 has other videos with other girls who where 18 barley so seems he was actually targeting young girls so yeah it wasn't a insolated event and seems to be a consistent thing with this guy. Imo 18 be the age in the whole country and even though I don't someone should be called a pedo for one time they slept with a 17 year old because they where a moron or drunk it should be heavily persecuted so no one even gets into these arguments
I’m 25 rn and teach at a high school. I see 17-18 year old girls every day and when I hear about stories like this, it makes me physically sick to think that someone my age would look at these children with sexual intent
putting an apology behind a paywall is nuts, like "hey, people, I'll only say sorry if you pay me, only those who pay are worthy of hearing me apologize"
Yall are dumb lmfao he put it behind a paywall so it wouldn’t get seen by most of his fans that didn’t already know about the controversy. It’s not that complicated
i feel like he also put the apology behind a paywall because there is an inherent bias in his favor because they are paying for his content, therefore may be less likely to respond negatively? which is foul regardless and it just seems as a way to deflect accountability lol
I think the weird part is the age gap, 17 is like being a junior-senior in high school, 25 is like having a masters in college, the brain development and life experience is the biggest issue here
@@Yumiko-je1towhy doesn’t it make sense ? I’ve had five different part time jobs trying to make ends meet since 18 to now 22 . WhT are you SAYING that’s a slither of experience in the real world . A 17 year old has NOTHINF . Poor tana . She needed protection … she’s a real victim . I am in college and see freshmen at 18 and some try get w me and I literally turn away because my god they’re so young and babyish to me. I can’t do it.
PSA: 18 being the law for age of consent sets a MINIMUM. Because we have to draw a line somewhere. But 25 yr olds dating 18 yr olds is also fucking weird and maybe go hang out with people your age??? Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s moral. Get a grip.
Again, most of humanity, billions of people, whole regions and countries, would scratch their heads at this "drama" and ask ".. but why?". Are most of humanity wrong and p33dos? Are billions of men p3ddos? This is the the mcdonalds of youtube, trash shiat content.
Exactly. On average, your brain isn't fully developed until you're around 25 (I usually allow some room for that, so maybe 23-27) from what I recall, and the fact that so many of the internet offenders are in that age range and are just kinda like "yeah I can get away with it if I do this" is fucking crazy. It's a law because you cannot make a properly well thought out decision until your brain develops enough. There's a reason people used to live with their parents 'til they were like 30, AND THE OLDER PEOPLE KNOW THAT SO THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE YOUNG PERSON WHO THINKS THEY'RE AWARE ENOUGH TO BE FINE BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING CONSCIOUSLY AWARE IT'S ABOUT YOUR O R G A N S G E T T I N G B E E F I E R 😭😭😭😭😭
The craziest thing is the fact he was stopped and told she was a minor after kissing her and said “thank you for telling me!” and went on to do it with her that night…
It's very grim to remember the many videos where Cody used to make fun of Tana during and after the Tana Con era, especially those "Insta vs Reality" videos where he made fun of her appearance... I can't imagine how it felt to her to watch it all after what happened and how he just pretended she was an absolute stranger to him...
Let’s not forget that Tana also mentioned she was a fan of Cody as well before this, which adds another layer to this messed up situation. I don’t personally care for Tana’s content or whatever, but people dunking on her because she’s not the perfect victim is crazy to me. Do people have to be literally angelic for others to believe they were taken advantage of? Edit: to everyone under my comment saying Cody did nothing wrong, explain why he’s heavily censoring the people speaking up in his comments and Reddit posts about this, instead of just, you know, SAYING HE DIDNT DO IT and backing it with evidence. Genuinely wouldn’t be a hard thing to do if he was innocent. Stop being degenerates and accept that your favs can be bad people. Also accept that just because a crime happens to a bad person doesn’t suddenly make it not a crime. Don’t care what your opinion on Tana is, that was a child. Period.
@@_bambi.ambie_1936 he had a r4pist at his wedding and still hangs put with him publicly. He's the same gross frat boy behind closed doors. Don't let his video persona fool you
@@_bambi.ambie_1936bro what????? he’s a monster, full stop. no one who does something heinous like this AND stays friends with an even worse person EVER changes, because he doesn’t think he should. and that’s beyond fucked.
i remember being 16 at my first job and hearing how my 24 year old manager would talk about my body and tell others what he’d do to me if it were legal. he’d randomly touch me on the shoulder or neck or act really gross. at the time i was so insanely flattered and naive i took it as a compliment. i’m 22 now and the thought of speaking like that or acting that way towards anyone 20 or under actually makes my skin crawl. do better.
I think these anecdotes are important to share because it can be hard to understand the impact of these types of crimes until you’re the age of the people committing the crimes
Thank you for sharing this, went through something similar at my first job and at the time I thought nothing of it due to my naïveté. I’m 20 now and have matured ALOT, looking back on it makes me feel genuinely sick as to how a 30 year old man behaved towards me when I was 17.
Ignore the weirdos trying to make you sound like you're oversharing or talking about something off-topic. It's absolutely on-topic. This is bigger than just Cody, and Tana has said that herself.
“There’s no perfect victim” I think that speaks for Tana and how people are dismissing the allegations because of her history. But everyone deserves to tell their side of the story and Cody’s lack there of just makes him look so guilty
You mean the woman whos entire career is based on stories that arnt true and is regularly caught lying......no way, cant imagine why people dont really care. Aside from the fact that in state where is happened it literally isnt a crime and the activity was consensual, so what are we even talking about. And for the record yes I do think the nationwide AOC should be 18, buts its not.
Nobody is dismissing Tana, if anything, her claims are being taken with a grain of salt. It’s a reap what you sow kind of thing. Now it’s weird as hell that a 25 to be with a 17 yo, but Tana has profited off her lies and scamming her followers and attempted character assassination. At for me, I want legit evidence, no he said she said.
There's a major difference between telling her story versus accusing someone of an actual crime. She needs to take it court. She has a past of lying for attention and causing drama for content. She lacks a credible reputation.
100% they did the same to Trisha Paytas who has been exposing creeps for 14+ years, but yea, she’s a crazy woman, a hysterical woman, so no one should believe her. The patriarchy in action.
Yea I agree and disagree. Until the further evidence I was unconvinced because she's made serious allegations that were lies in the past. There's no perfect victim sure but there's also a story we all heard about crying wolf
He obviously is, but i keep wondering how do people expect him to address it honestly. He can't do that - that'd be admitting to statuatory r*pe??? Im not on his side i fully believe that he did it but there is no right way to handle it except going to jail LOL
@@llamaczech uuhhhhh and the point of commenting that was??? No duh, but his silence is a big indicator of his guilt. I didn’t say that was the only sign of guilt 🤣
@@mackenzie0802 the point is his silence quite literally isn't an indicator of his guilt. The other stuff that indicates guilt, that stuff indicates guilt. The only way his silence indicates guilt is if you start inserting conjecture about HOW it means guilt, which you can also do for it meaning he's innocent (which I think you'd agree is bs).
It's not only the age gap, but the power imbalance of the situation. Tana straight up said she "grew up watching him", he was already a big creator when she was a child. How does that not make the situation an automatic "nope"?
So she knew who he was and how old he was? At 17 you're legally a minor but youre not a moron. She knew what she was doing. She hasn't stated he forced her into anything. Mind you, I have never heard of this man before this scandal (I think maybe one other time in a podcast I listen to). And I actually kinda like Tana, all her bs aside. I used to watch her often when I was younger. And I remember being 17, I knew right from wrong. I knew what was legal and what wasn't. I will fully support her if she comes out and states he forced himself onto her. But it takes two to stand in a corner making out at a party. Tana may be dumb, but she's not stupid.
thankyou for making a video on this, i think a lot of young impressionable men watch your content and it’s nice to see someone like you stick up for tana who is in this horrible position, and to see you disagreeing with those who have chosen to victim blame, it’s also nice to see that you haven’t labelled it as “drama” because something as serious as this needs to stop being labelled as drama when someones wellbeing is at stake - great video
i’m 20 and even now i look back on my 17 year old self and feel so disconnected from that person. you mature so much in those few years. the fact he was 25 is so crazy to me
It’s true, hell even if you’re 18 you’re still just a kid developing your brain and decision making skills. I just turned 26 but when I was 25 I was nowhere around any 18 year olds because to me even they are still minors and what business do I have around them??
@@Silly1336with that logic you should never hang out with someome 10+ years older than you either. And an 80 year pld should nevee talk or be around a 50 year old because of the huge age gap
i saw the video by D’angelo yesterday, and it’s absolutely horrifying that it took until then for me as a longtime cody ko fan to find out about this. this should have been openly and widely discussed a long long time ago
Always loved Cody Ko. Probably going to unsub after he addresses it or if his next video on his main channel doesn't address it. For now, I think there are better things to watch.
The was a survey conducted a while back and they asked men if age of consent didn’t exist how young would they date, the average age was 12. So yes some men are just scared to go to jail.
@@favray I'm sorry but the legal system is a joke. It serves those in power. A lot of legal things are definitely not okay. Considering that our brains finish developing at 25, you're still a child at 17. But since we're talking about legality in this specific case, what Cody Ko did is _illegal_ since the age of consent in CA and FL is 18.
@@favrayYeah, and it was a LAW in 1940’s Germany to turn in Jewish people. Would you do that, too, just because it was “the law”? The law is black and white and has no room for actual morality, dude. And it’s WILD to say that the court system doesn’t care about feelings when the entire point is to give victims a sense of justice, you know, a FEELING. Emotions rule more of society than most would like to believe.
