CogDis Paradox Ending Final Battle 

When you accidentally cause a paradox and cause the protagonists from the other game to become your final boss.

So, for those of you wondering why Megalovania is the theme used here, let's put things into perspective. Every other time Megalovania is the boss music, it's a sign that either the hero (Varik in the Halloween Hack, Terezi in Homestuck) or the player themselves (the Genocide Route in Undertale) is about to do something morally dubious (killing an frenzied old man / killing one of your closest friends) if not utterly vile and reprehensible (killing EVERYTHING) when they could've picked a considerably less drastic path. CogDis's Paradox path is the only Mother-related game that lets you beat down the main villain with brute force, which is antithetical to the Mother franchise as a whole, where the main villains are inevitably only able to be beaten by non-violent means. Not to mention that since killing Giygas in such a way causes a host of problems for the entire Mother timeline, it's no wonder why whatever's left of the Mother 1 cast is opposing you and why this ending nets you a Time Crash.

Let's think about this for a moment. There's gonna be obvious spoilers in this comment, so if you haven't played the game yet, I'd recommend at least watching a playthrough first. Giegue is severely emotionally wrecked from his upbringing. He may, or may not, have had an Eldritch Horror within him since birth. (CogDis doesn't make it clear if Giygas is a manifestation of his insanity or a separate entity in his since birth given what we've seen of the flashback scenes.) He has quite literally manifested a second persona in order to escape his feelings of regret and turmoil over his adopted parents and the planet Earth. In the final battle, there are several actions the player can do for different endings. The best of these involve getting Giegue to reconcile things with his positive emotions and ultimately working together in order to move on from his troubled upbringing. Then there's this ending. To achieve it, you have to go out of your way to teach Niiue (the personification of Giegue's positive emotions) an ability using an item you have limited access to which allows him to sing the eighty melodies during the battle against Giygas; a song the represents Maria's love for him but is also incredibly traumatic to him because of what surrounded it. This causes the already in the throws of insanity Giegue to have an even worse breakdown, as he's unable to properly process and digest the amount of feelings he's experiencing right now. Afterwards, Giegue forcefully retreats further into his mind. Niiue, along with the others, continue to follow and press him. In a complete nervous breakdown from them continuing to press him, Giegue forcefully manifests the four heroes from Beginnings/Mother 1 to try and defend himself; beings that are partially responsible for his aggravated state in this game proper. This doesn't stop Niiue or the protagonist from keeping forward, forcefully beating back these memories until all that's left is what is truly Giegue deep down; a scared, traumatized child who never learned to properly process his emotions. In the end, Niiue and the protagonist even forcefully beat *that* down as far as it can go, until all that's left is the enbodiment of his positive emotions. However, being positive is *not* the same thing as being emotionally healthy. And because of that, once the initial rush dies down... Everything begins to fall apart. When you really think about it, the paradox ending is a metaphor for the dangers of pushing down your emotions and putting on a fake happy mask to try and deny your own emotional turmoil. In the end, you'll only be making things worse than learning to process these feelings in the long run. Honestly, not half bad for an RPG Maker fangame. Hats off to the devs on this.

What really kills me here is the victory jingle for this battle in particular.

So, basically, in this ending you traumatize the already traumatized Giegue even further by singing the least appropriate song possible in the least appropriate moment possible, causing him to, basically, curl up and retreat deeper into his mind. It's not just twisting the knife in the wound of poor Giegue - it's sticking the motorized iron wire brush into it and running it at full speed. Do you leave him at that? No, you follow him with intentions to continue fighting. Then you fight with what are either chrono-projections of the previous clique of the protagonists or their imprints in Giegue's memory, which he tries to use to shield himself from you. Of course, your party manages to destroy them and whack his core personality even further. With nowhere to retreat and being so damaged and traumatized, he just... gives up and dies. Mission complete, I guess. Even though the reality itself is wobbling from the way you did it. But hey, the universe is safe now, right? Right?..

This game really pulled a Trainer Red moment and made fighting the previous game's protagonists an optional ending for the player.

I love how Giygas is attacking the Mother protagonists and you at the same time. He's got two enemy groups to deal with, and he's _enjoying it._ The Mother gang, however, see you more as a threat than _Giygas._ That's why they focus your attacks on you.

"You did it.. you bullied a vulnerable being, kinda fucked up but it's effective I suppose." -Goofy from Oneyplays

You: “I did it! I saved everyone and got the best ending!” The Universe: “You’re not allowed.” *ends

I always thought what happens here is that Niiue "singing" causes a doorway to the source of Giygas' angst (the Chosen 4 from Mother 1) to open, and destroying them makes it so that Giygas can't form and as such, causes a time paradox since the events of Earthbound can't happen.

I love hearing the sounds of the attacks and classical generic RPG menu scrolling while the coolest video game boss track plays in the background

If you think about it, if the protagonists are fighting us, does that mean _were_ the final boss?

Ninten, Ana, Loid and Teddy are fighting Alinivar, Colonel Saturn, Niiue and Marvin for the fate of the world. Should Alinivar win, all will be destroyed!

As far as I know, what's happening here is that you pushed Giegue so far down the rabbit hole of trauma that he tried to defend his shattered mind with the memories of what defeated him long ago. Of course, you still end up beating him down further and further, and inevitably his mind just... I dunno, collapses? Inevitably, since you basically just stopped (killed?) Giegue he doesn't have the chance to become Giygas and thus Earthbound never happens, royally screwing-up the timeline.

The ending is the least possible, considering a paradox would destroy all timelines, meaning we shouldn't even be able to get other endings, yet we still can, which means this ending doesn't happen. Although this is amazing.

did anyone come here NOT knowing megalovania was the theme? I didnt

Megalovania: The song that plays when you're the bad guy.

Every sound in this video is music to my ears~ Including the attack sounds.

Why are the chosen four represented as swirls and not something at least resembling their actual selves?

Oh, hi Giygas! What's up? Just chillin' in the background, I see.

Oh THATS what the letters mean! N = Ninten A = Ana L = Lloyd T = Tony

Guys if you die, you have to restart from the point where zarbol is still there

Bro you literally just used an assault rifle on a GOD.

This is even worse for the Applechasers than it seems at first. Niiue's singing allows the Applechasers to jump in and attack the Giegue core, but it's not the Applechasers that destroy Giegue, it's Giygas himself once the Applechasers destroy the Swirls that protect him. You just helped an all powerful Eldritch Abomination destroy what little rationality it still possessed at that point. Now there's nothing holding Giygas back, so it obliterates most of Magicant and possibly the real world as well.

YOU'RE FIGHTING A LITERAL F***ING PARADOX?! WITH THIS BADASS VERSION OF MEGALOVANIA! HOLY SH**!(I haven't played the game so please correct me if I'm wrong.)

I find this incredibly _sad._ And, unfortunately, I know that means I _have_ to do it.

chuggaaconroy should do this blind😁😁😁

CogDis good old days playing you...

My first question: Why the hell is Giygas in the background?

...Was I supposed to have Alinivar and co. up to level 89, or was that too high?

*earthbound Halloween hack reference*

Imagine going up to giegue and saying, i shid you not, "Hey can you not attack our planet for 5 minutes? my dad fell into a well."

1:45 "Man this would go a lot faster with the Borange Ray. Wonder if he picked that up and just never equipped it." Yyyyep, you got it... but I have a question... Why have it equipped on him...? Seriously... NO SERIOUSLY... WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS PUT THE BORANGE RAY ON ALLINIVAR? I know it's a great weapon and all and covers Allinivar's natural lack of damage output BUT THERE IS A MUCH BETTER CHOICE. Allinivar has other things to do, like healing the team, using Shockwave, hitting every enemy (with either Multiprod or the electric variant), using his guitar, or even buffing the team with Empower. There is a team member who literally just... DOESN'T HAVE A ROLE IN MOST FIGHTS except for DPS

aww i was hoping you'd show the dialogue after the battle as well. been awhile since i've played and i forgot what they said

Every single time Megalovania starts playing, no matter where it is, its because you fucked up royally Earthbound: Halloween hack You fight an old man backed up into a corner with nothing to lose because you are a fucking asshole Idk if homestuck counts, but from what ive seen, its a bad time. Wait fuck take that ba- Undertale Do i even have to tell you? But this is the most fucked up instance imo Your basically breaking every single law of the time space continuum, fighting the protagonists of Mother (making YOU the final boss), all the while trying to kill Giygas, and when you do kill him, you make a bloody time paradox. Yeah, out of all the times Megalovania is played, this one is the biggest "You fucked up" moment, because you fucking destroy the universe at large. Good job.

All I heard was *BOOM KABOOM BANG BANG THUMP CLANK*

R.I.P Headphone users

So Giegue is fighting you but him from the future, which never happened yet, is watching (btw I mean Giygas) and you are fighting 4 people who should have existed years ago but still don't exist?

DO NOT WEAR HEADPHONES! Theres some weird effect on my ears right now.......

I understand this is called Paradox Ending because it creates a time Paradox but if someone could explain it to me really clearly that would be super awesome because I’m a dunce

what's with alinivars body

64% about megalovania 2% saying it's cool 24% breaking the replay button 10% actually talking about the vid I just had to lol

This might be one of the most fucked up endings in a video game ever

This version if megalovania is best heard with headphones o_o trust me......

HEADBANGING ENGAGED

you'll never be able to defeat the chosen 4.

Comments 99% People bitching about Undertale, it's fans, and it's fanbase. 1% Other (This kind of comment, comments about Megalovania, comments about the actual video)

megalovania means you killed too much and a boss is coming for your kneecaps

The Paradox...

oh hey mew gets a megalovania

oh hey this looks pretty co-damnit

* BAD TIME *

Warning: Don't wear headphone.

Wouldn't it be ironic if Niiue was inducted into SSBU. This would be the first fan character to a Nintendo property in a smash bros game. I know it will never happen but would be cool if it did.

Why is it called "paradox" ending

rip everything.

Why the hell does Lloyd have an assault rifle?

so you have to kill ninten Ana Lloyd and Teddy

ITS LIKE MEGALOVANIA!!!!!

Megagigyas(the background is giygas in the battle)

I was wondering when Megalovania would happen in the game. Finally my question has been answered.

Alinivar is still: that guy

THE SUPER GIYGAS TEAM

Universal universe self destruct! Also isn't this an ending were your kinda the bad guy trying to kill giygas with brute force and it works but you create a paradox Any fan game with paradox gets inf × ? / ?/inf

Hehehe. (S)he had babies. That little, 3-faces thing.

"I did it. I saved the world!" universe: no

Re insano el Saturnino 👻 3:04

SANS-

This confuses me still. Why are you fighting Ninten Ana Lloyd and Teddy? Why are they Giygas swirls?

I play this game on my cellphone

wait was this made by toby?

Sounds like you’re having a *Bad Time*

Is The Boss Called "Nalt" Or "The Nalt Swirls"?

伝説はもう始まっていたんだなって 思ったね

0:35 what are these?

Megalovania....??? WHAT

those swirls are just photo shopped pictures of giygas

Me acaba de dar un deja vu cerca del minuto 2:20

Hoi can see giege behind the parodoxes

*gasp* sa-

1:10 is that super Mario 64?

i know this music was it from Fortnite?

cool boss fight

The very first megalovania... was it?

70% are talking about this game 20% are talking about a reference of Earthbound 10% are talking about Megalovania - Undertale

different as mario rpg the seven sages

So what happened to Giygas in this ending?

who came here for megalovania

5:39 they dont defeat giygas giygas just like minding his business with his fetus background see! i told you giygas has things to do and can be nice even if his bad emotions litearlly is his form

the skelaton, the spider lady, and the scientist look all mad that 2 conjoined spirals stole their theme...

WHERE MY HOMESTUCK FANS AT?!??!?!??

But they are just swirls :o

Megalovania in earthbound fuck huahuahua

WHAT the FUCK happened to the Kids O.o

Oh hey Megalovania... and nightmares.

**MEGALOVONIO STARTS PLAYING**

*HOLY SHIT I HEAR MEGALOVANIA* *3 MILLION GIYGASES* *WTF IS THIS BOSS* EARTHBOUND IS GIYGASBOUND CONFIRMED

ここまでどうやって行くのか分からんw

Jesus half of these comments talk about fucking megalovania. Like Jesus why does everybody have to point it out, it's stupid. I only looked in the comments for about this (rom hack? IDK) but all I see is goddamn undertale stuff that's not even relevant to the video.

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