Collision 2024 - Spargo (Cloud) [ W ] VS Shadic (Corrin) [ L ] - Ultimate Top 8 - Grand Final 

Definitely not intentional

Why? It's fairly common practice for these big tournament sets​@@hotdog3392

@@hotdog3392 hard to say, the Summit team has done it intentionally many times before and Collision might be borrowing that

Yeah, there was one channel that did it for all their videos. Top 8 at least. Everyone should have adopted that format.

It’s done a lot actually

Luckily enough Zomba too, so he could drive sooner back home XD

Is this a meme?

​@@savaget2058now it is 😂

Literally the new leo v spargo

@@eyyy2271 It's been one tournament. Sparg0 vs SHADIC will be the next Leo vs Sparg0 when they've played like 20+ times.

​@@SeriousStriker you can't deny it will happen

Sonix

I think Spargo, Sonix, and Acola all still have that contention for 1. With Miyas recent underplacements, I think Miya has 4th

@@FallingandRelaxingAcola hasn’t even been competing at all to be fair. Bros on a hiatus or something.

​@@PurposeDriven7_ bro won a regional last weekend 😭

Yeah no sonix beat 4 times in a row also could we stop comparing spargo with Leo bc two Mexican prodigies it's really dump

atleast he got top 8, compared to tweek

@@isuck6049he just got steve’d. Unlucky seeding

@@unLuckyy_7670 you could say that to anyone tbh, I just think that tweek should have a solid secondary for the few matchups that suck for diddy, and not sephiroth.

​@@isuck6049Tweek is a snowflake when he is up against steve lol

Tweek participó?! Quién lo sacó??

Kola is the peoples champ

He would've done way better

​@@JoeJoe0onah he sux

@@petrinonelson1992 you sped bro?

I wanted to see him beat Onin but not Shadic

Me when I forget Miya

Prolly that riqua27 chump 💀

@@lokks2130you and the accusations again 😭

I found that thread of people saying you went into discord servers to start harassing shadic about corrin btw @@xanander4693

Sparg0's going to be a tough one to crack but it is very cool to see Shadic have a massive level up and become a top 10 player.

some of the statements made on here are such red flags, like please go touch some grass

Game and Watch doesn't carry any more than Cloud does

@@lokks2130G&W definitely carries more than cloud

​@@lokks2130this is a lie

@@Ericspil790 no he does not lol he's not even as easy to play

cloud pfp @@BlackTactiks

Not close

With two 3 stocks at that.

Kid already has a driver's license

And he was blindfolded!

I still can't believe he made Sparg0 go Steve out of desperation.

@@Beauto093he lied lol

17th, 33rd, 49th.

​@@ragames7320 2024 ?

@@ragames7320yet he still dominates lil bro

He does the best against the other horsemen but does the worst against everyone else. He's the most likely to get upset of all the other horsemen. Acola loses almost exclusively to the other horsemen, basically nobody other than Spargo, Sonix, and Miya can beat him. He's definitely still number 1. Yeah he's character carried, but result-wise he's still number 1.

@@CosmicBrighthes been farming japan, acolas definitely number 1 in Japan. But come every random tournament is classified as a major there You cannot be the best in the world if you have negative sets against 4 of the best 5 players in NA

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The one that didn't lose, in case you were wondering

As a Corrin player myself (alongside Joker) I definitely want to see more of Shadic. Spargo is definitely an impressive player, I will not deny that, but seeing my main, a character that seems to be hated by many in the Smash community despite their release being almost 8 years ago (just move on already!), doing this well is great for me to see. In all honestly, if a person comes 2nd place to Spargo, they’re still doing well

@@dogboyton3166 glad to see your main being represented more (corrin), I like when there’s more diverse characters in top matches. Really inspiring and interesting to see how new top players will adapt to the current top players.

No shade to Sparg0, kids phenomenal, but cloud > gnw isn’t really that bad of a take. GnW is overrated

​@@mercurysnake274 gnw's up B >>> cloud with limit

@@mv2664 Cloud with limit is a top 2 character

Cap

Best player

He's already top ten if you ask me, he's really solid

いないんじゃなくてTOP32までに全員負けてる

​@@envi5525 いまこの試合にいないって意味なのは君以外は理解しているぞ。 あと応仁は？

If you are hyped by Swordies spamming Bair, yeah

@@godmode3611 good thing i am

Honestly the only person he looks like he enjoys playing is Leo.

​@@TehWhiteTigerand Sonix

He has this weird arrogance/pride that doesn't let him actually do what other players do to beat Steve. He wants to do it his way even though his way just doesn't work against Steve

@@rizvan1632 yeah I only watched top 8 and was honestly surprised when I saw what he got placed in

@@rizvan1632honestly the best tweek ever did against Steve was at summit with his seph he kept things really close with Acola and almost beat him. I know he’s a solo Diddy player now but that match up looks really rough for Diddy. Diddy is a way better character than seph but for that match at least he might have to bring the seph back out.

try 16

@@Oliver-et2ou he really 16 then for sure a kid

Its funny how they go even with Spargo but they also can lose to random players

​​@@MrJj-kw1qq depends on what you mean by random players. Tweek lost to 2 different Steve players, a character that Diddy Kong has an ABYSMAL matchup into and his secondaries, while still good, aren't nearly as polished as his Diddy. SHADIC is really talented and as been on a killer run recently and he felled Light and Leo. Kola had an insane run this tournament and also beat Leo and Light. Zomba and Light fought, as only 4 players can make it to winners side top 8 meaning if all goes as seeded, two of the top 5 seeds will fight each other at some point, and zomba lost that. Zomba also lost to Lima, a really strong bayo player. None of them lost to "randoms", they just either got unlucky with matchups like Tweek, got outplayed by SHADIC and Kola or fought each other.

Shadic didn't play Leo this tournament. Leo lost to mute@@elmacho1336

Diddy isn't even that bad against Steve. Tweek just plays it horribly

​@@MrJj-kw1qqmost likely reason is that they study to beat spargo specifically

And lose as well

Watch the last game between shadic and kola. Kola lost because he wiffed a counter. It’s too risky to use against high level play.

@@girandidilone5226 I saw that, but I also saw plenty of times where the counter would've saved him here.

Lucina main don't because of morality, roys and chroms don't because they love swinging too much, ike mains don't exist in 2024, Marth mains don't because they love set-ups too much. Corrin's is too utility to be as useful as the others.

check the winner semi-finals match between shadic and Spargo, Shadic wins the second match using corrin's counter. But as most of the comments have kinda pointed out it's a gamble and very committal for high level play.

Hard to beat a kazuya-incineroar grand final lmao

Static shock , cuz it’s collision

this is why im not in the smash community anymore 💀@@basil1913

Same about Corrin, she’s boring to watch

Nah I think the way he plays Cloud is really cool.

@@legrandliseurtri7495 spargo’s cloud is raw

😂😂 give me someone else that plays cloud like that….. you can’t . Sprago is the least carried player at the top level

@@basil1913no one said anything about Spargo being carried… cloud is just kinda boring

@@xanander4693 top cloud is funner to watch than peach , palu , gnw , rob , sonic ,min min ,snake , ness , ageis, wolf . And Sprago fundamentals ,speed , creativity makes any character look fun to watch, it just happens to be cloud that is his best character .

They mostly refer to Frame trapping an air dodge which is essentially the same thought process behind frame trapping in any other fighting game.

@@newjumpcityjosh9333 to me it looks like just baiting an air dodge and punishing it, not a frame trap. A frame trap is when you do a move on someone's block and leave a gap just small enough where if they do anything that isn't invincible within that gap, they will get hit (usually a counter hit) by your next button. Definitely not the same thing as actual fighting games 🤣

It's literally the same thing but since you don't play smash then you wouldn't know where to look so laughing was kind of silly, you could've just asked. A easy example for you to understand would be Fox uptilt frame traps, especially around mid percent. Fox uptilt will eliminate most of his opponents defensive options, usually resulting in another free uptilt or uptilt into bair, nair, or up air. Aerials are frame trapping moves as well where the bulk of your confusion is coming from. Your opponent has 2 options in the air 3 if you have a b reverse: attack, air dodge or b reverse. If an aerial is fast, large with very little recovery frames like Corrin, Game and Watch or fox's up air then they can usually frame trap you into another hit.

@@dripfoe_3307 It is not the same thing and I have played smash before for a long time. Smash "frame traps" are just baits, best comparison is probably a safe jump. You aren't punishing them for pushing a button, you're punishing the recovery of a move, like how a safe jump baits and punished DP (that's a reversal move) or a super.

@@dripfoe_3307 a frame trap doesn't eliminate options, it just punishes people for choosing a option, your opponent could still block, they don't have to push a button and get hit by the frame trap, or they could use an invincible move. In that regard smash "frame traps" are similar, but it even then quite, pressure continues if the opponent chooses to block instead or gets out with their reversal