3:13 I just realized that the T-600 is wearing boots regardless of the fact its rubber skin has long wore off. That's actually pretty smart cause it disguises its foot prints so people would think its a person that has walked through and not a Terminator. Without boots it would leave skeletal footprints and that would be a dead give away.
@@SCARRIOR Do you have a link to that clip? Here's a link to a clip, at 3:37 they see new models for the "human" terminator, implying that those were the first of their kind. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eIRBiPVhQQk.html
I like how this is a complete inversion of the Terminator formula. Instead of a guy coming back from the future and we have a guy waking up in it from the past. Marcus is basically the time traveler from every other Terminator film in reverse.
Loved that they did that concept, otherwise it’s basically a repeat of the others, go back in time and stop something from doing something or save someone. This was different and wasn’t appreciated at its time
Or so he thinks, you do see him in the beginning when John and the resistance raid that outpost with all the radars just lying on the bench with his eyes wide open.
Lol you're nuts. 2018 was full blown circus, just like now. You must be 12. I'm 42. Sep 11 2001 is the major dividing line for most people alive alive today. Things were more chill before that.
I got so depressed watching this movie. I thought every movie would suck as bad as this forever. Then DISTRICT 9 came out 3 months later and I loved movies again
Yep. The T-600 was designed solely for killing. Skynet hadn't begun attempting to build Terminators that could pass for humans yet at that point. It was entirely focused on extermination, not tactical warfare.
@@IgnatianMystic all terminators were designed soley for killing. T600's were suppose to be early adoption of infiltrators, with plastic mold of a face. They were the stepping stones to the T800. It was the T700 who werent bothered with infiltration
Gary By "designed solely for killing", I meant they weren't intended to infiltrate enemy ranks or carry out assassinations. They were made for general widespread slaughter. And I'm pretty sure it was the T700s that were fitted with latex faces.
@@IgnatianMystic assasination still implys killing, although I guess 800's were made to infiltrate ranks they've failed to do that in any of the movies up until Genysis where a 5000 infiltrated instead but thats a whole other thing. 700's were foot soldiers (probably the later version of the 700's were used to make the 800 prototype as the final scene was in a 700 factory that had begin developing 800's). 600's were described to wear the latex mask by kyle reese in the first terminator movie. If I remember in behind the scenes they originally had this particular 600 wear a mask but removed it after the final render.
I always loved the concept of the T-600 especially this scene seeing it in action. I saw one commenter point out that it's just human enough to be convincing at a distance but just so subtly off that it triggers that 'uncanny valley' affect that signals something is definitely not right
If I recall correctly, the T-600 was designed by Skynet specifically to only be sufficiently disguised at a distance, and to be a foot soldier. It's latex skin was only convincing at distance, and was plainly obviously not a real human.
@@literallyanangrymoose7717 I assumed it was only a disguise at a distance because that was as good as Skynet's make-up artists were at the time. Not because it was specifically made to look good only from a distance.
I love these old terminators. They are so bulky, unefficient, so much metal, such a cranky walk, and yet... it gives them the magic of a hardwired, gritty, anological robot.
To be honest, if you leave T1,T2,and T-salvation as stand alone movies, you end up with a nice Terminator trilogy! I appreciate this move much more, after seen the piles of Junk they came after this movie.
You still need Terminator 3 to complete the story though. As Terminator 2 ends with the future saved and everyone living happily ever after, you can't get back into the machine war without Rise Of The Machines restarting Judgement Day.
@MOS maybe t1 salvation then t2 so like you start strong with t1 get salvations grim future then t2 is implied to be a second loop which explains where/how it can break off
Got to love how the T-600's look like zombies but also that their rubber skin only works from a distance which is more than enough for them to launch an attack
The 600 series has rubber skin. You spot them easy, but there are is a new one. They look human - sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot. You have to wait till he moves on someone before you can zero him.
No disrespect to Anton, may he rest in peace, but, it's kind of ironic how he fought of machine with tremendous killing capablilities but ended up getting killed by his own car. Skynet..
When this first came out, I absolutely hated it... I felt like it played way too fast and loose with the story and background and general lore of the setting, down to the fact John Connor wasn't the big resistance leader in this film that the originals made him sound like he was... But after time has passed.... and the franchise itself has been milked dry and beaten over and over like a dead horse (by its own creator no less) to a point that they've ruined the tone and story completely... I look back at salvation and realize ".. you know.. maybe I didn't like this movie because I was still bitter about how bad T3 was, and I was desperate for the familiar instead of giving any new ideas a chance.." This is actually a very good story, and there's not a single part about this movie that felt... hammy... or slapstick... it felt serious and scary like the originals, and it actually told quite a gripping and interesting story.
I agree, salvation ditched the “terminator” formula and used John Connor in a way that advanced the story. Versus just “oh noooo now johns the baddie!”
This movie is so underrated. I absolutely loved it. The terminator designs, Sarah's tapes, Marcus and Blair, John and Kate. There were so many elements in Salvation that fans just couldn't understand, simply because they wanted the franchise to end with the second movie.
It failed because it was released in the same year as Transformers 2, Bale had an infamous rant, and ofc fans backlash. But it stood through the test of time, all the crew’s hardwork, practical effects held up. This movie deserves a second chance, it aged like fine wine
MultiBum123 because the plasma guns haven’t been made in that era, this was the point of the war between skynet n humanity where it was ab to get spicy
yeah they killed it with this one. the t-800 in this movie was even scarier than the t-600. the final fight scene almost couldve passed as a horror scene the t800 was that scary.
Rest In Peace Anton Yelchin. He was only 27 years old and played Kyle Reese. He died in a freak accident in his own driveway in Los Angeles in June 2016. He found himself pinned between a pillar and a fence after his car started rolling backward. It appeared that Yelchin had gotten out of the vehicle, but had not put the car into park correctly. The Los Angeles County coroner's office determined that cause of death was "blunt traumatic asphyxia."
@@kingofaesthetics9407 they faked their deaths and turn into other people they also murder each other for a higher rank in the Masonic Brotherhood sacrifices etcetera etcetera
it was meant to be a trilogy with the thir film being about the future war but it flopped and boom! ! ! ! all ideas for a future war films went down. ..
Nicholas Chen you must of like the other films then, Salvation was about the future war and a man who used his second chance to right his wrong and in doing so, saved the resistance leader.
Salvation was indeed bit TOO serious....and overall its potline was bit boring. However I DO wish Terminator franchise HAD continued to built on Salvation. It should have gone forward to future war even further and ultimately to defeat of Skynet. That is the part of this franchise that we never got to see thanks to Salvation flopping and then them trying to reboot the franchise 2 times over with Genisys and Dark Fate... I would still rate the movies in this order: T2, T1, T3, Salvation, Genisys/Dark Fate equally most "meh" movies in last place. But ye, even though I thought back in 2009 that Terminator Salvation was the worst Terminator movie up till that point, I would have MUCH rather seen continuation for that than having the franchise rebooted...first from the very beginning with Genisys and then for 2nd time with Dark Fate, without either really adding anything new to the franchise.
I'm Your President Right...a teenager surviving on his own, with hardly any military experience...you expect him to be the fully capable, hardened soldier, that went back to save Sarah right off the bat?
@@BamM88 they only "get it" (even though they actually dont) because they are *forced* to get it. By the Femminator movies that came after this one, which have no buisness existing. Its the exact same treatment the Star Wars prequals are getting. And yes, i AM better than that crowd because i enjoyed this movie and the prequals from the start.
No, this movie has terrible plot flaws. It was better than T3 though, but not a great movie. The ending, performing a heart transplant in the the middle of a post apocalyptic desert by sacrificing a fully functionnal "human" and friendly Terminator, is dumb as fucking fuck.
This movie still sucks... yes it had some great elements, but the story was weird and the ending completely ridiculous. Just because people are disappointed with Dark Fate, doesn't make this a good movie... if so, you have lowered your standards.
It was intended to serve as the start of a new trilogy of Terminator movies. However, those plans were cut short after The Halcyon Company filed for bankruptcy and the franchise rights were sold to Pacificor
This is my all-time favorite Terminator movie and the one that got me into the franchise in the first place i’m so happy to see it finally getting the recognition it deserves they should do another Terminator movie building on this movie plot.
Honestly this movie was great and severely underrated because it was different from the Arnold terminators. But the terminators were f’n terrifying in this movie.
didnt even know it was Anton Yelchin playing kyle reese, i just heard his voice now, and its made me realize that i only knew him from star trek, but his been in so many movies, wow
I wouldnt be too sure about that,because a strong impact to(like a bullet) the heart-which is vulnerable will still kill him as shown when he fights the T-800 later in the movie.But who knows,you could still be right...
@@rustycookiepekka6875 yeah that could happen as well, im just basing it off when john shoots the T-800 and it doesnt get damaged, the minigun shoots the same bullets, and because marcus beat the same T-800 it could probably survive the minigun bullets I think marcus would try and run into buildings and then attack the T-600 and easily kill it, if he knew he was actually a terminator himself
@@shadowman3557 Marcus is of the T-H series, and probably the only ever successful one. They are of course stronger than the average mortal man and can easily fend off humans. However compare to other T series, the T-H were not really design for direct combat. They excel in infiltration and psychological role to trick their prime target into a sense of false security. Any line of T series that is 600 or up will likely beat the T-H in direct combat.
I like the fact that they made young Kyle Reese look close to his son, John Connor from T2. A lot of guys resemble there fathers when their fathers were younger so it's a nice correlation.
A guy in his underpants nearly defeated the T-800 in the first Terminator movie. While powerful they still only balance on a pair of spindly legs, so take one off guard and you can still knock a Terminator down.
@@Here_is_Waldo guy in his underpants? do you mean Ginger's boyfriend Matt? he didn't even come close to defeating the T-800, all he did was take one swing at him with a bedside lamp.
I love how he says if you're gonna point a gun at someone you better be ready to pull the trigger AFTER he racks a shell in lol, as if pulling the trigger would have done anything to begin with
T1- Masterpiece T2- Masterpiece T3- Out-of-place comedic fanfiction TS- Great T-G- Garbage TDF- Just killed off the franchise in the most lame way possible *What's your opinion*
I've seen behind the scenes stills, concept art, and action figures of this Terminator with a full all head over rubber skin that I thought looked cool and was like the 600s that were described in Terminator 1. I really don't know why they stripped it down to the skull with very little rubber skin, but I wish they kept that look cause it looked cool and fit the T-600 description in T1, what a shame they didn't use it.
@JL Artworks I'm not referring to why the T-600 looks the way he does in the world of the movie, I'm referring to why the people making the movie didn't go with what they originally planned, which was to have him have a full head over rubber skin. Google "Terminator Salvation T-600," you'll see production stills, concept art, action figures, video game models, etc. of the full head over skin they didn't use. Again, I wanna know why the people making the movie didn't use it, because that was way cooler and fit with how Kyle Reese described them in Terminator 1.
@Project 420 But you can't really see it because it's dark and rainy, and that T-600 was missing the skin on his jaw exposing his skeleton teeth. But again, I've seen BTS stills of this particular scene with the T-600 having skin covering his whole head, he looked like a bald Rob Zombie Michael Myers with glowing red eyes.
Yeah, that's because everything about this movie is compromised to make it into the big summer tent pole movie that the studio needed to compete with Transformers. Every aspect of it is simplified and watered down and imho - moronic
Agreed...although I dont wonder one bit why Salvation flopped (it WAS the worst Terminator movie up till that point in 2009), there was some potential to built on it, and in fact I would have MUCH rather seen more of future war and the END to the whole war and Skynet than having the franchise rebooted 2 times with Genisys and Dark Fate....
@ 4:45 - Marcus Wright asked "What day is it?", which reminds me about Kyle Reese when he asked the same thing to a policeman waveback to Terminator 1984...
The way the T-600 reacts to Marcus yelling at it. It’s scary. Thinking that something is human, that “they” can help you but find out that “it” in fact is a terminator. It’s very scary and fun to watch.
I know this movie wasn't as popular as the first 2 , but I always liked the desaturated color scheme for this movie. Really emphasizes the apocalyptic look.
I like how, once we finally got to the future, even if its only the early years of it, thus no laser weapons, they still incorporate some sort of "time-travel". Instead of someone from the future, its someone from the past. I like that, they still kept that aspect of time in salvation.
In the director's cut the Anton Yelchin character says, "Come with me if you want to live..... in a world free of high toy prices!" and then brings him in to Red Clown Toy City where they have resonable prices and a wide variety of toys for both girls and boys. That's Red Clown Toy City located 2 blocks inside the destroyed factory district. And the first 100 customers each day gets a free balloon and Terminator skull. Get yours today!!!
I think it worked so well because they didn't think of some dumb way of bringing Arnie back. They paid homage with a battle against his "model" but that was it. This was the last good T film
Ugh no, this movie wasn't good. It's very dumb how they made the terminators so stupid and easy to destroy, and made the humans win. In realize the humans would've been obliterated, and John conor would've been eliminated a long time ago. Trash soap opera
Two things this movie did for me: 1. Made me realistically scared of AI controlled mega-factories that droll out countless death-machines deisgned and programmed for mass-human annihilation, and 2. Showed me Sam Worthington is a fucking cool actor and should be in more R sci-fi films (of decent and above quality).
My personal opinions on salvation aside the T-600 has an amazing design, it's visually distinct enough from a T-800 for it to stand out yet it has just enough of a convincing form to get within killing distance, it's a good design for what's supposed to be Skynet's first attempt at an infiltrator
dont know why this movie failed on boxoffice.i loved it the first time i watched it.sam worthington and christian bale both nailed it and story telling was really good too.i guess kinda like fight club effect.when fight club came out didnt do too well in the boxoffice but it became a cult hero.but what do i know about movie boxoffice anyway.i just watch them and tell my opinion on them and this movie was a really good one for sure.9.5/10