I like the touch that John didn't relax after burying the T-800 in molten metal. He knew it was not dead and started backing away, getting ready to continue fighting it. It shows how he clearly learned from experience.
@@TheSiNnEr734 As a tween he saw a T-800 jump into molten metal and still be able to perform farewell gestures so I'd say he remembered full well it wasn't something to guarantee an instant kill.
It's sad to know that after Dark Fate, people admit this is a good Terminator movie. It has its flaws, but keeps the essence of the T-800: menacing and really difficult to destroy.
It's still not a good movie, Dark Fate/Genysis being terrible films doesn't make Salvation a good film. Does it help Salvation's image? Sure, but let's not get carried away. Salvation is still a massively flawed film, just not as flawed as Genysis/Dark Fate
I've never thought Salvation was a bad film. Especially with how demanding the fan base is for another perfect terminator film. Was salvation perfect? Hell no. Was it enjoyable as a terminator film with really good replay value despite it only being PG-13? Without a doubt. This was the only film since T2 where the terminators were properly portrayed as intimidating killing machines.
He tried to burn and then freeze the T-800 because he remembered the final showdown from T2 when he was a boy. This movie actually had some pretty good writing and respect to the original movies. Can't say that about the reboots
The cut he gets at 3:20 is brilliant because if you watch the 1st terminator, you’ll see a old John Connor from the future with a scar on his face just like that .well done for that
So what? Do we REALLY need to see how characters got scars? Like, that was the only bad part about "Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade." Edit: Lmao @CactusMalone, trying to justify terrible writing/direction 😂
@@properduction2586 right i think thats the best way, find a 18 wheeler and try your best to crush and run it over. maybe if you were able to get a grenade. i dono if a grenade would harm a terminator
PIXEL It took the best leader of the resistance, a half human cyborg, cryogenic freeze and molten steel to take down a single t-800 prototype... let that sink in..
Providing the origin story for how John got the scar on his face is peak world building. Such a badass way to get a scar. If Halycon had not become bankrupt and allowed to finish the planned trilogy then I think we would be putting the Terminator franchise up there with Marvel and Star Wars. The direction they were going in this movie had real substance and meaning behind it
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 That’s cause Terminator fans are one of the most nostalgia-based fandoms out there. I’m not gonna lie, Genesys was mid and Dark Fate was ass, but people hated this one and T3 just for going off the formula a bit. They’re gonna make more terminator movies no matter how much we don’t want them, I blame the fans for being far too blinded by nostalgia to see the good potential of this film when it came out, and bringing us to where we are today
@@neroidius6915 I think the idea of killing off JC is what didn't set well, which even the comic of this goes into. Also the fact it was the throw-i-nator while it still had the flesh covering, like it was a gimmick wrestling match is another complaint But I agree this had more potential even than its predecessor. I just wish it had more plasma and lasers. Maybe a few things that were supposed to be in the script instead of the giant transformer-esque harvesting machine. I'm no puritan for nostalgia, but some criticism is valid. Unfortunately.
@@neroidius6915 T3 brought nothing new to the series and was generally awful. Salvation was maybe the most forgettable one out of all of them. Anything beyond that was actually just embarrassing. The Terminator franchise really didn't need to continue at all. It's not about nostalgia. If it was about nostalgia everybody would be pissing their pants over the endless Come with me if you want to live/I'll be back/Arnold awkwardly smiling references that get stuffed into every single movie since the second one. We're just sick of it being milked at this point because there hasn't been anything new or interested brought to the table since 1991.
@@rahulranjan6168 Metal is killed with Force... Liquid is killed with Fire... T-800 is unstoppable if he is in close distance with you ... Atleast T-1000 can be slowed down...
I 100% agree, its fast and powerful not slow and ponderous, I like its HUD too, it's a nice modern take on the old one without that 80s dated look we still get from today's movies, they should of kept that HUD for the new movies, I hate the way the new terminators easily rip off the T800s arm off in the last two movies(Genysis arm&Dark Fate hand)
I love how indestructible, yet physical the T800 was in this movie. Nailed all the points, even that extra spark of murder must that’s very untypical for a machine.
That's what made it so scary in the first movie. The more damaged it became, the more psychopathic it seemed to be. Almost like the thing wasn't just a machine. It was almost like there was something evil there which the red eyes helped with
@@Johnny_Serenity ye it was being logical, due to it being so heavily damaged and now exposed at that time it knew it only had a limited time before it was completely figured out and a lot more than just police showed up to take it down. As such, it was rushing more and more to get the job done and being less careless. It's like impatience, but on the logical side of things.
The problem for me is the earlier part of the fight and chase where the T-800, for nothing more than plot convenience, throws John around instead of crushing his skull or digging his heart out. The rest of the sequence is pretty chilling and well done - it's just the practicality of the fight that annoys me quite a lot. In the 1984 original the T-800 was much more dangerous up close.
@@Ripa-MorameeIn the tech noir shootout, why did it not pick up it's uzi instead of chasing sarah and reese on foot? Why did it feel the need to execute it's victims in the loudest way possible instead of killing them off silently so as not to alert the real sarah (in case the one it killed wasn't the right one)? Why did the t800 not wait for a better opportunity or get into the police station some other way instead of just massacring everyone? Why did it run away after the car crash instead of getting sarah then and there? Why did it feel the need to make one-liners like "wrong" or "i'll be back"? It's pretty obvious that the t800 in the first movie is not that logical, and it seems to almost have an ego, as if it's getting frustrated at failing to kill it's target.We also have to remember that skynet itself does have a personality of some kind, and since the t800 is made to fit in with humanity (atleast somewhat) it makes sense that skynet would either intentionally or unknowingly impart human traits into it's programming.
It is more physical than a T-1000, but has more vulnerabilities because it has an endoskeleton. The T-1000 is not as physical but is much harder to kill because it always comes back to shape unless you can melt it down or freeze it.
@@jasonleetaiwan even T1000 not kill easy an t800 and you know they got hyperalloy (yes the strong metal in world), liquid or not is like dps vs a tank
Actually they didn't, this model of a T800 is similar to original but although it isn't the same, the original models of T1 & T2 had a smaler chest and and a bit smaller endosceleton in general, this one too wide
@@C-F98Yeah. This guy was a criminal, a thief and a murderer. It seems he even had some form military training but probably was discharged and instead of finding an honest living he went rogue with his brother and they certainly had some brains to pull off a number of bank heists and know how to kill people. Marcus in the end still killed his own brother though and some cops before he was arrested and trialed and placed on death row. This guy has experience. Pity he only learn to take a second shot at humanity only after his death and awakening as something else. But he still redeemed himself saving the leader of the last of humankind remnants and protector. I was really hoping if they were to continue this franchise they could explore more on Marcus and bring him back in future films alongside John connor as his right hand man. Oh well.
The fact alone that the setting is for one different and you get to see the future war with skynet puts it higher on the list compared to the new movies.
Best T800 representation till now. Flawless endoskeleton, he actually really try to kill, he uses tricks like voice imitation, almost unstoppable, scary as hell, and really realistic because of combination of practical effects and cgi .
@@Waterbug1591 well kyle resee hit the t800 with a metal bar in teh head and is tossed witha bitch slap... In T2 the bar fight witha pool cane to the head,and t800 launch a biker to the kitchen... t2 a pescadero female guard hit arnie in the head and arnie simply tossed her away.. t3 the tx is hitted in the head,,tossed arnold across bathrooms. t4,,the same with the t800 in the head a lot of times its somekind of bug..or somekind of anger reaction
@@FULANODETAL 1. Kyle Reese was mortally wounded after that slap. 2. He was the protagonist, they did that to position him as the good guy. What's the excuse these guys have? 3. By the time they were in Pescadero, terminator is directly forbidden to kill by John Connor. 4. TX is incredibly durable, T800 (or 850, whatever) is merely trying to stall TX, allowing the party to escape. 5. I don't know what you mean. Once it gets hold of you, a superhuman murder machine would never let you go until you are f'cking dead. There is nothing to justify what we are seeing in this film.
@@Waterbug1591 I agree but there right in the first movie he does throw people around to but in the rated r of this movie script the director wanted to have a couple of guys around to have the terminator kill before he gets to John to show how menacing the t600 and t800 were
Samuel Hewson I know right out of the sequels this was the only logical route to go any logical fucking person with brain knows that from a continuity stand point but unfortunately the world has become more stupidly dumb so then 😒 Iam so glad I stuck with japan entertainment now and with there anime games and merchandise is now ghost in the shell patlaber Gundam black lagoon Star blazer gurren lagann and many other USA iam so done with ya. Anyway 1984 to 2009 terminator RIP franchise
this new one was really good why do yall complain bout it? Cus it was an almost full woman cast? It was packed with action from the start, good story but kinda wanky at times
As much as I love this movie, one thing that gets overlooked is the sound design. This film nailed it. The robotic sounds are terrifying, the hits deep and impactful. Score could have been better but for some reason studios no longer have the balls to go with the experimental soundscape industrial style of T1 and T2.
I could not disagree more, this is one of the main issues with the movies after the first two, it's the sound design. The sound design in the first two is just so distinctive and enhances the films atmosphere so fantastically well. The later films have a generic Hollywood score, sounds like every other action film. This film is no different. Why would the film director be content with this? it's like they never understood why the first two were so amazing.
@@TheLunarnotes While I thank you for the comment, you may probably want to re-read my comment as I go to special lengths to separate the score from the sound design which are two entirely different things, I even call the musical score of the later films "generic" and am only talking of the sound design, not the music. I am a sound engineer and musician so it comes with the territory and as such I am well aware of the history and difference of the musical score of the first two movies being primarily synth driven atmospheric sounds rather than classical orchestral pieces, but for whatever reason they stopped doing that post T2 and to my mind this was a dumb decisions by studios that actually cost them more money to implement a more classical orchestral sound track. And the problem with that for any movie now is you have Hanz Zimmer in the world and if he is not working on your movie then chances are your orchestral pieces will = shit by comparison of whatever he would have done. As for why be content with this if you made such a movie?... I don't think they get much choice. The corporations make most of the key decisions and they are informed on how to make them by marketing departments. "If you are in marketing. kill yourself" - Bill Hicks, 1991.
@@Nine-Signs Honestly I think the score is really good, with my only problem is that musical continuity isn't really maintained that well here as only the five notes that's in every Terminator film (in T3, it's only in the end credits) return. Personally, I like orchestral music more but if this was the more synth type score, I think it would have been really good, but the way the war looks here, I think the score being orchestral works more, but that's just me.
@@SpideyFan2002Honestly, I feel the biggest reason this film left such a bad taste in people's mouths by the end is because the end credits music is not the classic theme but a repeat of the intro theme. It indeed does make it feel less satisfying and gives the feeling that you just watched a B movie without even realizing why. Some of the acting needed to be better and some plot points could have been a bit better or more thought out, however overall it was a solid movie that was rough around the edges.
@@jeezed2950 The part of the classic theme that the film does maintain appears right after the "There is no fate but what we make" scene. Does that count as the end credits or was it something different?
In contrast in Terminator Dark Fate, where Dani is able to take on a Rev 9 in hand to hand combat, this film just shows how powerful the T800 machine is.
@@TheAJ2501 if you remember, Sarah Connor in the original movie was scare as hell when half of T-800 was crawling to kill her in the end. And why the hell Dani didn't scare? This is the goddamn robot-killer from the cruel future. Why do I must believe, that the REV-9 is the REAL motherfucker TERMINATOR, if Dani can just fight with this thing without any problems?
Salvation has a lot of potential, it's the only Terminator movie with different plot, all the others are " a terminater is sent back to kill someone and another is also sent back for protection" What I want is a Full on war movie with MAchine
Molten steel when exposed to cold air (for example being spilled from its container) is significantly less hot than molten steel inside of its container (like we saw in T2). Considering the T-800 in T2 was still functional for some time when it was fully submerged, it could even give that thumbs up, I think T-800 surviving molten metal being spilled over it in this scene is not bad or illogical but completely fair and the molten metal did weaken its endoskeleton enough that Marcus was able to rip T-800's head off.
I love the sound the machines and the terminators in this movie make when they move . It makes it feel so unique compared to the rest of the terminator films and differentiates in the movie from the rest with its own artistic flair.
I've always liked Salvation. It's understandable the amount of emotional investment put into the franchise, watching a Terminator movie for the first time without Arnold must have done some people's heads in. Well. Most. Only years later do they realize that it is actually a great movie.
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But the story isn't about John because the story is about Kyle Reese and his crazy survival adventure that created John to fight Skyrim, I mean Skynet. John is the solution to the end, and Kyle Reese is the beginning and the middle.
I liked it too...it was the biggest ALMOST out of the ones after T2 in that it was a v good concept, had the right cast amd also was set during the aftermath which we hadnt properly seen. Just always had the feeling if they got a few more things right this cpuld have been a REALLY good installment
The only bad part was the ending in my opinion. That pipe trough the heart stuff was just silly. Without it would be much better... Imagine a sequel with John and Marcus and of course plasma rifles... but now we got genisys and dark fate...
this scene is out of the context because the t800 in the first movie explode with a bomb or dinamite in here scene the T800 are invencible well Good dont canon movie thanks for god
@@shadowbluezeroex If I am not wrong, the T800 of the first movie kept going even after the dynamite and the second movie it was already heavily damaged. Here, they are fighting a freshly built version and without suitable weapons, so I'd say this scene makes sense.
I remember, even before entering the theater opening weekend, I already loved the vibe and story with this, especially when they added an Alice in Chains song
It's like with the Star Wars prequels. It took some really shitty sequels in Genisys and Dark Fate to make people realize the effort put forth in Salvation was at least somewhat respectable, if incredibly flawed. Just like Disney made the SW prequels look better after the sequel trilogy completely blew as a story.
Wanderer 246 exactly 👍 this is the end of the original movie continuity terminator timeline that we first got 1984 to 2009 RIP and RIP terminator franchise as a whole
There is a comic book continuation called Terminator Salvation: Final Battle that not only continues the events of Salvation, but ties it with the events of T1 and T2 and ends the story.
The only positive about Terminator: Dark Fate - people are finally realizing and admitting that for all its' many flaws, Terminator Salvation at least had some original ideas and some real high points. Not a great film. But by far the best T2 follow-up.
HarpoTheVillain Yes, and at least it follows the original story with original characters. Genisys screwed up big time and Dark Fate are just a mess. I feel bad Linda had to be a part of it.
Oh yeah. Salvation made the t800 scary again. It let us see the future, let us see what humanity was dealing with closer to the turning of the tide, when we started making a comeback.
A real T2 sequel would show us the future war. Remember the scenes from the first two movies of the future? That's what the entire third movie should look like. It should show the resistances victory against the machines, the discovery of the time machine, and John Connor sending Kyle Reese and the first reprogrammed terminator back in time to the events of the first two movies, finally bringing the story full circle and giving a proper ending. Salvation at least tried to show the future war with the machines, which is a lot better than whatever Genisys tried to do and definitely better than just killing John and negating the entire thing the way they did in dark fate
I don't understand why people hated this movie. They should have carried on after this movie and have us a God damn future war. But no they had to make a shity prequel
This movie at least keeps with the relentlessness of the T-800. In T1, it was still trying to finish it's assignment, even as it was being crushed by a Hydraulic Press. In T2, it was still trying to protect John, even after having an arm destroyed along with many other structural compromises, to the point where it was literally dragging itself across the ground to continue against a much stronger opponent. In T3, it continues after the T-X after being mostly destroyed. And in this one, even as it's slowly being encased in molten metal, it's trying to push through. That relentlessness is what makes the T-800 so scary as a movie monster, but also so respectable as a Hero.
Didn't help that the SPFX are horrible too. In both movie the flesh is burned off the Terminator; here it looks so real and scary as hell, but in Genysis it's so fake looking. The Terminator looks like perfectly polished chrome which wouldn't be the case.
*Salvation:* Marcus and John Connor struggle to defeat a somewhat indestructible Terminator *Dark Fate:* A skinny 5 ft 1 Mexican girl tackles a Terminator to the ground Edit: I realise the Rev-9 was weakened at the end of Dark Fate, but for a machine whose only job is to kill you at all costs, even if it was at only 1% health, getting within proximity to it, let alone tackling it, wouldn’t be the smartest strategy. Even the T-800 at end of T1, after getting blown apart and it crawling around on the ground, was still scary AF and Sarah Connor was intuitive enough to get away from it rather than wrestling it or trying to put it in a chokehold
I don't remember the mexican girl tackling any terminators to the ground in Dark Fate. She hardly did any fighting at all, and the woman who did was more machine than woman, just like Marcus here. Stop being such fucking incels already.
one of the most underrated movies of all time..atleast salvation tried to have an orginal terminator story, not the same ol go back in time BS that we seen so many times.
I assume that after the failure of 'Dark Fate', this movie will get the recognition that it deserves. I always considered it the real T3. Not perfect, but cool anyway.
Leonardo Alaimo yup totally agree I never hated salvation and I was never into terminator genshits aka fake 5/castration of the terminator unverise lore or had any hope for terminator the dark NPC aka fake 3/the 3 minutes castration of John balls I was waiting for a logical continuation a continuity continuation of this movie timeline the build up I have been waiting for since the 1984 the terminator all the way to this movies sequel but never happened funny how everyone was first like bashing the fuck out of salvation aka the sequel/prequel to the first trilogy MIND YOU!!! and now after they all got fucked by NPC dark fate they are now waking up to the bullshit they now are sucking up to salvation WHAT THE FUCK 🤨 GOSH DAMN IT TO ALL YOU MOTHER FUCKERS who don’t know what’s good for you FUCK YOU 🖕🤨🖕
@@leonardo_alaimo I hope it will be revised somehow, genysis,dark shit and the second half of t3 made fatal wounds on the terminator saga. The tv series was acceptable despite of its weak episodes. T1 and 2, salvation and one ending part showing the future war would be a good storytelling forgetting the others.
Wow! They are actually respecting the mythology of the Terminator!! -He was mimicking Kyle Reese just like T-800 did in T1 (Mimicking Sarah's Mom) and T2 (Mimicking John Connor) -John tried to kill the terminator from hot liquid steel (Just like T-1000 died in the Hot liquid Steel) - At 2:52 Terminator was rising in a T-1000 manner. - At 3:14 John cools down the Terminator temporarily (Just like T-1000 got Frozen temporarily) - At 4:30 Terminator stabs John (Terminator likes stabbing people, in T1 he stabs a guy with a punch, in T2 T-1000 stabs multiple people like that foster father, that security guard even T-800 in the final fight) This movie is so Underrated!!
@@deferguard7748 Factually in T2 he got the scars in a different way, as that was the normal timeline where Judgment Day happened on August 29, 1997. In Salvation's universe, judgment day happened later on July 25, 2004.
All superficial little easter eggs. These things are supposed to be the cherry on top, little winks at fans while the whole movie around them works. Not the only things that work.
yes, the tx was terrifying and here the most ashy terminators like hydrobots were ruthless. In the last 2 pairsen stormtrooper from star wars, nothing intimidating.
It’s such a shame this movie didn’t get as much love as it should have. I think it will be looked back upon as one of the better sequels since T2. - it was different from the usual travel back in time to kill someone. - you got to see the war of the future and what a wasteland it is. You survive nuclear fire only to be faced with being shepherded to death camps & exterminated by cyborg Nazis. That’s a terrifying proposition. - Kyle Reese as a boy with John knowing that it is his father. A father that he would fatefully send to his death or it will mean his own death if he doesn’t send him. A sequel could have established that he essentially becomes the father figure to his own son! Which would create really intriguing relationship & drama dynamics. - the idea of a terminator with an actual human mind and heart is an interesting concept. - the T800 is once again terrifying and near unstoppable with conventional weapons. - John knows the certain details of the future, but he cannot understand and foresee how they fit into his present or future and neither is the future set, which makes the ‘predicted’ become unpredictable. I really wished they had a sequel to Salvation rather than the T2 plot rehashed 3 times now - T3, Genisys & Dark Fate.
Back in the day i didn`t like the movie that much, but after Genesys and Dark Fate i am starting to appreciate it - And by the way, the CGI in Salvation is much much MUCH better than in Dark Fate.
@@julianzabala9010 I personally liked Dark Fate as in watching it in theathers. But I definitely liked Salvation and appreciated more of it's concept than the whole entire offering of Dark Fate.
Dark Fate had good action scenes but everything else was quite lackluster. The visuals and acting was good but everything else, especially the story/plot, falls apart when you think about it. I enjoyed what I could out of the film but it ultimately failed to really do anything special.
this movie is like the revenge of the sith a first people didn’t like it but with the new more terrible movies this one looks so much better (i always liked this one)
After so many years this film finally gets its well deserved recognition. Best Timeline T1,T2,T3, T Salvation... Let's just ignore "Genesis" and "Dark Fart"
@@Shadowkaden In setting and music, but Terminator 3 was the last movie where Arnold played his great role as Terminator without looking like an idiot, plus the TX was a great performance. It is difficult to say which was better because the scenes of action in salvation are phenomenal, but it has very big holes in the plot. In any case, these 2 movies are much better than the last 2 despite their flaws.
The t800 in this looked unbelievable compared to the one in genisys. Why couldn't they used this model for the other films. The noise of the terminators too really added to the effect. This film really showed how tough the t800's really are.
I love how, at the beginning, the soundtrack (Final Confrontation) sounds oddly familiar to the original Terminator movie but very orchestrail and unique in its own way. This movie deserves more love.
Terminator Salvation is the best Terminator after Terminator 2. Terminator Salvation's "universe" is the one to be explored, not this going back in time rehash stuff. Christian Bale is a fantastic John Connor. Common was good as well.
@Masster Gunnz Indeed it's all relative. Now that we have tasted the later Terminator films, it does seem a lot better than it did at the time. Kinda like the Star Wars prequels and Moffat's Doctor Who.
I guessed many people didn't like film because Arnold is not in it, Christian Bale is miscast as John Connor, no liquid metal Terminator, and and no time travel plot involved.
@@nicoledreamcr4666 That what you think the Terminator franchise is about? Funny I always thought it was about John Connor becoming the leader of the Human Resistance and leading the human race to victory over skynet and the machines. That's why I think this movie is a great Terminator movie. Because it moves the story forward to next chapter. John Connor is an adult, the war between humans and skynet is full swing. I finally got to see the future war that the first two movies teased at.
4:29 Anyone else jumped the first time you saw that? I mean, with the shots of the T-800 breaking free, you *know* something is coming. And it's just so surprising when John gets stabbed.
@@zillafire101 because it was cringe af! Just watch terminator 1 when it was blown to shit and you will see the difference. There was far more fear and weight behind the movie and the female character was far more believable and likeable. Not some preachy tiresome narrative of empowerment.
@@no1guinness Genisys also what all over the originals, probably even more so. And I just watched the movie. Other then one or two scenes, not really that preachy.
The t-800 endoskeleton is much heavier than the one of rev-9 but it is still ridiculous to easily tackle a terminator like that for such a short and skinny girl !!!
Now all the “fans” start flooding in cuz of genisys n dark fate? Where were y’all when everyone hated the shit outta this movie? *kudos to the ppl who actually liked the movie n welcomed it’s new approach from the beginning*. We could’ve had a continuation n finally see a full fledged war movie w plasma rifles if it wasn’t for some of y’all crying ab it. Oh well our punishment is dark fate, it had its moments but eh...ya know, the beginning ruined everything. Make up ur mind y’all
It's easily the third best movie in the franchise and unlike T3, genesis and dark fate it actually tried to do something new instead of just redoing the exact same shit we've seen already
Bro for real I don’t think people understand that this is basically explaining what happens before the whole time machine and future war this is what it was like. Skynet didn’t just pop out T-800’s the built many variations of terminators like the T-600 bulky, tall huge, able to carry a mini gun with one hand and it was just a tank. This is all before Skynet even touched on Plasma weapons. When I saw this movie I was amazed and in aw about how this terminator looked it was and still is a great movie.
I agree but in he genisis and dark fate the t800 was old and obsolete. Skynet was self aware that humans could re program t800 so they manufactured terminators that were in destructable to t800 and could easily defeat the t800.
I always liked this film and couldn't understand why it didn't do well, Bale was a great John Connor and this is the only time outside of the original two films that the Terminator was actually scary.
To be fair, I don’t really think they would be afraid of the terminators after seeing and battling them after a few years. Still afraid of dying....the sight of a terminator not so much probably.
@@legitme7572 you think they wouldn't still be afraid of the latest in the line of the most effective killing machine ever made? Seems unlikely to me 😅 Also they're trying to show off that he's not quite human, but heart rate isn't just a fear response it's also necessary to supply blood flow during exercise so they've missed the mark entirely
ur on the band wagon of all the people saying it was good,,,,how on earth was it good,,,it was just as dumb as genis made zero fucking sense. Look we all like girl power like everyone else but really 3 female leads in this,,,like them destroying the entire john conner story was stupid,,,they could of just added this chick and say like * you are very important role in johns life,,,with out you he won't win!! That alone would be 10x better cause then it even shows john needs help from another person who is a women which isn't a problem. But they just destroy john for the sake of * it has to be about a women this time! That aside it was just a shit fest movie.
loool this whole situation is so much like Alien franchise. When Prometheus came out, everyone hated it. But after few years they made Alien: Covenant and people hated it so much that they started to appreciate Prometheus more with fresh ideas
dont get me wrong, I really liked prometheus and the ideas ridley tried to convey....but boy, some stuff was just pure idiocy (vagina snake, helmets, getting lost etc pp)
3:20 the scars on his face in Terminator 2 when we saw him at the war looking through the binoculars, there were the scars on his face from this scene where he was scraped. Gotta love the movie details.
@Scuddy2.0 Scuddy2.0 let me write it out. Salvation is greater then T3 is greater then T6 is greater then T5. Of those 4 movies Slavation is the "greatest". Where did you go to school?
Why does the CGI in this film look better than the PS2 looking terminators in Genesis and in Dark Fate??? I mean just look how crisp it looks at 4:11 4:37 and 0:23 amazing
while this movie might not have been the best, the way they portrayed the T-800 was absolutely amazing and the use of the voice modulator to trick John into exposing his location was something that needs to be used more often
Y'know, I find it funny that a lot of people speak up about liking past Terminator movies only after seeing it getting worse and worse. Some people just don't know what's good for them till shit hits the fan.
@@gewalfofwoofia8263 its a trend now, wait a year or two and clips will start to pop up with the title 'top reasons why dark fate is a good movie' or 'was it actually that bad'
@@RevoltingRudi FYI, in the original script, John was supposed to die & his face was grafted onto Marcus' face & he would fight the war, because the Idea of John Connor was more important than him being alive.
@@Lyoko42o thats the shit scares me of salvation , i love the movie but if the original ending wasnt leaked then that shit of Jhon Connor dead would make T1 and T2 pointless and is a worst twist than Dark Fakes killing boy John Conner. jesus we dodged that bullet...
@@viralslayer8287 Oh you wanna hear the OTHER alternate ending to this? Same as the other one, John dies but Marcus swaps faces with him. Only THIS time he suddenly turns evil for no damn reason and kills EVERYONE in the tent! Including Kate and Reese!!! And that's it
when the shots is viewed through the eyes of the T 800 you can see all those white dots scattered around the environment, those dots are the same common techniques visual effect artist use to track a 3 dimensional space in a 2 dimensional image, it makes sense for a robot needing it to have a better environmental awareness. cool detail.
I like how everyone after coming from watching dark fate is going back and giving this film more love. Salvation ain't perfect by any means but holy nutsack Dark fate was such mega trash!!
Is this like a trend? Everyone hates the current movie and goes back and loves the previous movies they all claim was dreadful? If it is then humans are the weirdest craziest creatures I've ever known
@@goodmind4940 Hahaha, what a shame. I was hoping it to be a comeback of the terminator franchise. They should just really end the franchise. T2's ending gave a nice ending. Or probably do a better version of the future war.
@@TheKennethfilm Nowadays producers wants to get the best mark of critics and put some shit as feminism, woman more stronger than men, politics about relationship of USA and MEX. Well, they killed Terminator without any fight. Cameron must to end his career, he is following a modern standart)
The hell with what anyone says negative about this movie. It was a solid sequel with great visuals and story line. It depicted the T-800 as it should be and i loved the way it revealed how John got the scars on his face. i though that was brilliant.
I been loving this movie. Even watching it on TNT knows how much I been knowing this is a good movie. Sam Worthington and Christian bale nailed their characters
damn man, you really did not grew up with the original absolute master pieces like i did huh? and i mean the 1984 TERMIANTOR? either way is cool to see people defending more Salvation cos i always loved this movie as well but T1 will ALWAYS come before ANYTHING in this world
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Salvation was one of the best movie in the franchise post Terminator 2. The only thing it suffered was a clunky dual-narrative. That said, Bale and Worthington carried the movie.
Ha they reused the same shot at the very beginning of the video (of the terminator turning and walking out of frame) at 1:10. They just changed the background. But yeah definitely the same VFX shot of the T-800
It's been a long time since I saw this movie, but I seem to remember there's an earlier part of the movie where Marcus thinks his body is still fully human, he doesn't know he's basically a human brain and heart in a terminator body. It makes me wonder how... like was there some built-in safety that restricted his motion actuators to "normal human" strenght, so as to not tip him off like "hey I shouldn't be this strong"? Because by this point in the movie it seems like he no longer has that restriction, and is pretty much terminator strong. The way he threw the T-800 at the start of the clip is what I'm talking about. I can't remember if there was a point in the movie where they modified him to take off his "safeties" for want of a better word.
@travis Christian Bale was just playing angry Christian Bale, Batman without the depth. That "fuckin' amateur!" recording was basically in character. funny how not one of the actors playing John Connor has played him likable or inspiring confidence (except maybe the future war bit from T2) you got wonder how the fuck he became such a big leader, lol
3:52 out of all the joints the terminator is strong enough to move first it's his neck? The legs and arms should have been made to be by far the strongest parts.
I like this movie how it actually shows us what happened after the war and how hard it was for the resistance to take down terminators before they had plasma weapons
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