Connecting two presonus Studiolive consoles for FOH and Monitor setup using one NSB stage box

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Here is how we setup a FOH and monitor configuration using two Presonus Studiolive Series iii consoles and one NSB stage-box. The setup in this video focuses on simplification.
I did this video due to the lack of other videos and information covering this topic. Presonus does have instructions on how to configure a FOH and monitor setup, however, it references different hardware and a much different way (more confusing method...) of configuring.
Consoles: Presonus StudioLive 32 Series iii and Presonus StudioLive 32SC

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@georgeray3492 2 месяца назад

Very thorough step-by-step tutorial. Well done!

@spiltliquor8727 9 месяцев назад

I did this same setup earlier this week with the same 32s(foh), 32sc(monitor), and 32.16 stage box. I’m using the stage box outputs 1-8 as my monitor sends and 9-16 as FOH sends. Works great! I guess the only issue would be FOH music not running through my monitors unless the Bluetooth device is plugged in at the stage box itself in order to route to each mixer? Thanks for this video! Wish you had posted it a week earlier though. 😂😂😂🤘🎶

@stageleftaudio 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for the comment. Good to see your setup is working! Yes, it's common for some setups to have wireless gear at/near the stage to ensure that input gets routed to both FOH and monitors. That type of setup is still in practice with analog gear.

@beckwith5880 9 месяцев назад

great coverage of a complicated topic. will have to watch it a few more times before i'm ready to take my operational test :)

@stageleftaudio 9 месяцев назад

The test will be graded!

@beckwith5880 9 месяцев назад

i thought so, probably timed as well!!! @@stageleftaudio

@spencerrouse2493 8 месяцев назад

Great video. I am running similar setup. Only difference is I am also bringing in FOH channel 32 via AVB to the 32SC and routing it accordingly in digital patching. Eliminating the need to use the stage box to send from FOH. You don't need to use an analog cable, but if it's not broke don't fix it.

@stageleftaudio 8 месяцев назад

Great solution!

@kevincampbellNYC 4 месяца назад

I found that I was able to eliminate the SW5E from my similar setup, after the latest firmware upgrade. I just use one connection on the NSB for house and the other for Stand Alone for Streaming or for Monitors.

@stageleftaudio 4 месяца назад

That is one of the ways to do it!

@ballerstv863 2 месяца назад

How?

@stageleftaudio 2 месяца назад

@@ballerstv863 The NSB devices have 2 ports on them, which can eliminate a need for the switch.

@urbanusta 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for the content. AFAIK, proper clock sync on any of the networked devices depends on receiving an output stream from the clock source device (FOH mixer in your case). Stagebox and monitor console modes take care of this automatically. Hence your NSB is covered (i.e., it does receive a stream from clock source). However, if you are using your 32SC in standalone mode, you will need to configure its Stream 1 to come from your FOH console manually (clock source) to avoid sync error related audio artifacts, even though you may not use that stream anywhere on that monitor console. Using monitor console mode on 32SC would have done this automatically. Presonus AVB Integrator Application Guide p45/46 covers this.

@stageleftaudio 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for the great comment. The consoles can "see" each other and will set themselves up as FOH or a monitor (based on their need). I find this as a great feature of the consoles (I have a short video on this coming out later).

@poncharellocr 5 месяцев назад

Very nice video, just a comment, in presonus NSB documentation appears the way you can do this but instead you set your outputs to the main mixer (SL32) you set them to the monitor mixer (32sc), this is specially worth it because for default when you turn your mixer in monitor mode, this mixer is going to feed the FOH mains thought out its mains, so you can feed your PA form the mains of the monitor mixer that is going to have the same main form the FOH. And this allows you to let the entire outputs form your NSB to feed the musician´s monitor without losing the input signal from the NSB to your FOH mixer (SL32) , this is a good idea because the NSB is going to be always closer of the musicians than the monitor mixer and at the same time your are going to get signal for the two mixers form your NSB 32.16. Best

@stageleftaudio 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the reply!

@thechuckster6838 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for creating this video! It is very educational and straight forward. Please keep them coming. I enjoyed how you explained it and demonstrated the entire operation working. Do you know where I could obtain some block diagrams of connecting these types of systems in different configurations? I've been a design consultant for many years and we are now getting requests for installing these in permanent environments for colleges, outdoor sports facilities and portable systems. Last time I used AVB was in the audio conference world. It all moved to Dante and it seems to be going in that direction. Thanks again!

@stageleftaudio 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for your comment. As for block diagrams, you may want to contact Presonus to see if they have those available. Also, you may want to check the Presonus forum... and possibly post your bock diagram question there. Yes, a lot of audio manufactures use Dante, I prefer AVB; it is open-source. The best part about setting up an AVB network using Presonus... no PC/computer is required.

@steveevans5260 9 месяцев назад

On the Midas AES50 network you can take your bus(es) off your FOH for things like talkback and music to your monitor console and route the bus as an aux input on the monitor console. No hardwiring your your digital snake aux out to the monitor console. Especially useful if digital snake is not near your monitor console. Might want to see if Presonus will do the same. Sure it will. It the Midas world called aux remap. Rock on 🤘🏻

@stageleftaudio 9 месяцев назад

Sounds like that would work with Presonus. I'll try it out!

@ballerstv863 2 месяца назад

Based on your setup , why there is no sound when I plug a speaker in my buses in SL SC?

@stageleftaudio 2 месяца назад

Not sure of your setup (analog or digital), but make sure the outputs(s) are set to "L/R" on the "Assign" section of the Fat-Channel.

@LeveledHeadGamer 4 месяца назад

How to you do foh & monitors from one console & stage box?

@stageleftaudio 4 месяца назад

Just as you would do with an analog board. The monitor sends use the AUX outputs at the console; the monitor cables then connect to the stage box (at the "outputs" of the stage box), and those connect to the amps. There's not much of a difference between digital and analog when running one console.

@TomVereecke 9 месяцев назад

Nice informative video. Do you also have a spare console and stagebox for gigs since it's basically computers that can go bad. Notice how much you say the word allright. :-)

@stageleftaudio 9 месяцев назад

Good questions. We do have another Presonus StudioLive Seriess iii 32 channel console, but not a digital stage box. We have several Ethercon cables as well. You are correct, these can fail at any time (due to them being computers)... which is why we use voltage regulators and UPS devices at FOH for the sensitive gear; to reduce the chance of failure. For a backup for the snake, we will always have an analog snake(s) available at each event. Providing a full redundant digital solution is extremely expensive!

@AlejandroGarcia-ft8tg 2 месяца назад

I have a question , if anyone can let me know if it’s Happened to them , has anyone had “sound cut off“ all audio “ mutes “ during a live performance? I’m connected from my presonus studio live series iii and it basically shouts all sound off to all my speaks , even if they are in separate matrix

@AlejandroGarcia-ft8tg 2 месяца назад

It happens for split seconds several times 2-3 times at a time

@stageleftaudio 2 месяца назад

Are you using a digital snake solution (digital stage box), or are you using an analog snake?

@AlejandroGarcia-ft8tg 2 месяца назад

@@stageleftaudio digital snake and digital box on the mixer itself I have to select the “ network “ for gain input

@stageleftaudio 2 месяца назад

Could be a few issues including the network cable. But, your issue may be more involved than what can be responded to on this RU-vid channel. I recommend posting your question on the Presonus Forums: forums.presonus.com/ There are usually a lot more people reading (and responding) to questions on that forum than there is for this video.

@AlejandroGarcia-ft8tg 2 месяца назад

@@stageleftaudio thanks I’ll look into it

@derrickwilson7467 9 месяцев назад

On most doghouses, cables enter/exit from the side, not the top.

@stageleftaudio 9 месяцев назад

You are correct. However, for this console case (and the cable being used), the cable could not connect into the console from underneath the dog house lid. All of our other cables/snakes can connect through the sides (as designed).

@jthunderbass1 9 месяцев назад

Fear, not, for they have thought about gain compensation when you have multiple desks, plugged into a stagebox fear not for when you turn the gain up on one, it will trim the other one back fear not

@JBF-GST-Tanda 7 месяцев назад

Does studiolive desks have trim (or digital level offset) options? I tried Dig.Gain but it doesn't affect analog signals. It's for USB soundcard input.