Console Wars - Contra - The Alien Wars vs Hard Corps (Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis) 

I never got to play it. I read about it a lot in game magazines though because of all the cool stuff it had in it

Hardcore to the core xD

whats multi joint sprite

​@@PapunaOfficial basically... A bunch of sprites combined to make one giant one. A sprite for the bottom of the leg, another for the top of it (creating a "joint," knee movement) same for the arms to create elbows, etc. Typically speaking anyway.

@@PapunaOfficialit's like the beginning of ragdoll animations. A lot of developers for the mega drive/genesis used it. One of the best examples is alien soldier.

SNES was better

​@@rickmartinez3268you are just a fan girl. Sit down and play both. Hard corp makes you want to just shoot everything in sight. The tempo, the music the action it had it all. Nintendo contra was just the vanilla contra on a 16 bit system. Sega only had one contra and konami made sure it was worth it.

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Me 3 years later lol

On my second round now.

I'm binging this show, too.

3 years later but yes !

Yep, and not for the first time either😅

I dunno, every era had great games. I personally only feel the current generation is lacking any true timeless classics

Yes sir

I agree. Greatest console war ever. And probably the 2 greatest consoles ever.

@@Wolfdragon92584 if you were fortunate to have both it was the greatest time. The good ol days

@@reginaldeberhart8521 Either that or at least have a friend who owned the other. Just as good. Sleepovers could warrant bringing the other console over. ;)

The height of literally having no shame. The music and sound effects are genuinely awful in Hard Corps. The visuals were definitely a big step back from Contra 3 and it doesn't help matters that much of the design of characters are just plain goofy. The overhead levels in Contra 3 are excellent. These guys proved through their footage that they are incredibly incompetent, not just with the overhead levels, but with the side scrolling levels as well. Too many RU-vidrs blame the game for their own incompetence. We didn't have problems playing those overhead levels in the 90's, and we still don't today. These guys just plain suck.

Thank you.

You're an embarrassment, as is the worst soundtrack, by far, of any Contra game. Spare me the whole, "everyone is entitled to their opinion" nonsense too. Not only are you propping up the worst soundtrack in Contra history, but your diminishing the amazing soundtrack of Contra 3.

He's afraid it would hit him in the face. Else, why is he blinking?

Good analysis.

Contra hard corp has better sound and music overall maybe not fx than SNES. What are y'all talking about sound. Even on UMK3 whilst the snes will have better sound effect, the genesis plays better stereo sound. Listen to the stage music on UMK3 sega and SNES side by side you'd understand what I am talking about. Also I feel like the developers then don't put too much effort whilst working on the genesis and focused more the SNES.

despite of the mood 7mode levels ruins fun)

Contra 3 is better to me. Don't get me wrong I was looking forward to playing Hardcorps since it came out on the Sega back in the day. I was green with envy when I seen the trailer. Of course I couldn't play it because I had a SNES. Well Contra collection came out and I finally got my hands on it and I see I didn't miss anything. Graphics and music was horrible compared to C3. It took the seriousness out of the game. Presentation don't count to me seeing that to me Contra was always self explainable.All you needed was either a short paragraph about the game and a intro. That club music and wolf man and dancing robots took the seriousness out of the game. I can understand that this game was Sega fans first Contra and since this is the game they started out with then I can see them saying it was better but I grew up on the first three. I'm not going to say Hardcorps was bad but for a Contra vet like me it was mediocre at best.

​@@johnnyappleseed8127 "Horrible" What imbecibility are you saying? Contra Hard Corps has the most detailed graphics and the music fits quite well with its graphic style.

@@sisoyunrobot8097 Calm down soy boy it's called a preference and my opinion. I respect the opinion of others that say they like Contra hard corps better. If my opinion about a video game upset you that bad then you might wanna get something called "a life" you are either someone with cool aid hair still living in his mother's basement working part time at GameStop or someone that needs a spouse because you are lonely. Grow up, it's just a video and this is the comment section for people to comment on the subject at hand or give their opinion on the matter.

@@johnnyappleseed8127 What are you talking about man? I'm starting my life now, okay, I was wrong to reprimand you in such a wayIf you prefer the third installment, fine, no problem there, so, I apologize for speaking to you in such a way, I have forgotten that everyone has their criteria and that what you have said about the game is merely your personal opinion and that you are not selling that opinion as if it were a fact to anyone else

Contra 3 is better as is the amazing Contra 4 for DS. Contra Hard Corps suffers from too much focus on boss fights, particularly those goofy marionettes.

***** i had the high quality newer generation genesis and the graphics looked crisper on the genesiss

***** im not quite sure what version but yes, i had one of the better versions of it different model but yeah thats why i was surprised, I think its just that the genesis had a much darker pallete so they overlooked it and thought it was like muddy even though its actually prretty crisp cause the snes looks a lot more bright and colorful, but thats also unfitting because contra is supposed to be dark and grisly

This is where I finally get to put hard corps in its place. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy playing this game immensely, but the ideas and level design are a bit uninspired and ripped from previous run and gun games. Sliding to hurt enemies, lets rip that straight from gunstar heroes. Constantly changing enemy like Seven force, Bah! Lets create this digital enemy that turns into a bull, helicopter, archer and tetris pieces where the stage doesn't change like in gunstar heroes with less inspired attack patterns....Mode 7 like enemy that is in the background and throws attacks onto the foreground, yeah lets also rip that from gunstar heroes. Remember how contra 3 recreated the boss from super contra and remixed it while paying tribute to the previous games, yeah lets take that attack pattern replace the enemy design with a less inspired enemy design, copy the enemy and put it upside down and put it on top of the original enemy while bouncing. It's more substance than actual creativity and new enemy ideas. There's so many times where it's here's a new enemy with a new attack pattern that may have been inspired by a previous game. The art style just feels jumbled and random that it doesn't create any kind of memorable setting or atmosphere like contra 3 or gunstar heroes. There's many gun choices sure, but there were only few moments where I calculated which guns I used for specific situations which I did a lot in Gunstar heroes and contra 3. The controls were not as intuitive as contra 3 where triggering the standing still button was either a simple on or off, where contra 3 had a system where holding the R button depended if your character could stand still and shoot accurately. This created situations where you may be trying to stand still and shoot and enemy but you can easily let go of the r button to avoid enemy attacks quickly. Unlike hard corps where your only indication if your character is in standing still mode is in the top left corner of the screen, weapon I or II. This creates a longer process of knowing which mode you are on and having to click the button again to either get off the mode or turn it on. Cycling through weapons is also a huge pain as they simply put all your bombs and weapons one whole bar, so you had to cycle through them one by one. In gunstar heroes you only worried about cycling through 3 things and contra 3 just 2 and it had bombs set to its own button. So actually acquiring more weapons in hard corps actually makes it harder to quickly pick the one you prefer. The snes controller was also better designed for contra. Using the tip of the thumb for shooting while using the base of the thumb for jumping is much more intuitive than constantly moving your thumb off one button to the next, and being able to use the R button to stand still meant that the only times you moved your thumb a bit was to use bombs or change weapons which were conveniently in a diagonal shape and comfortably close. The music is the thing that also gets insanely overrated in hard corps. Yeah, these tunes were fast and hectic, but they were also simplistic and catering to that simple mindset where action must be complimented by fast metal/techno type compositions. This is fine, but when the whole soundtrack tries to do that, man does that get old fast. Contra 3's score had variety and created build up which complimented the situations leading up to bosses that had intense and well thought out compositions. I prefer music that actually complements a stage than just fast and simple rhythms and melodies that screams action all the flipping time. It's like the game was designed for kids with short attention spans, fast music and many enemies and bosses that don't really introduce new and innovative run and gun ideas. The game is fun and even though some of these attack patterns are ripped from previous games just remixed, they are done pretty good. But the game just doesn't feel as polished as contra 3 and gunstar heroes and the stages don't progress or compliment all the enemy encounters as well either. The game never gives the player enough time to appreciate the encounter of the boss, the atmosphere, and the battle. It's just, heres a boss..fight it..oh it's dead...ok next boss. If you want to see how boss rushes are done right, play alien soldier. Variety doesnt always make a better game, I would rather prefer a game with better thought out level design that is complemented with smart enemy placement and better intuitive controls than many weapons that are lacking and levels that drag.

Cristian Duran Lots of good points in there.

LazorNoob agreed, hard corps is better even in the graphics department, sprites are smaller and that's a GOOD thing, because the game is so action filled that you really need the game larger view. And it was filled with amazing effects

But only one of them is better.

@@ultimategamer2669 which is hard corps lol

Obama changed it. It's corpse now.

+Crimson Ghost 😂fuck ya bra!

+Crimson Ghost Fuckin Obama.....changing names and shit.

Viktor Vaughn I remember when he called it the marine corpse and pissed off the marines. When they corrected them he said it is pronounced the way I say it is and pissed them off even more. Marines are the last people I would piss off.

It's like how blazblue is actually pronounced blaze blue

Radical Richard maybe harder than snes and best game ,, but graphics sucks ,, snes version have better graphics and sound ,, but s easy and short

Radical Richard 😂😂😂😂😂yeah ok

Radical Richard Sega's version is better

Snes graphics is much better, though sega version looks great.

Better graphics are you blind

Your not that good at the game.. just say that

@@inceptional If you think a game creates sensory overload. You are just not that good.

@@SDSOverfiend I don't think you understand what sensory overload it.

@@inceptional I do. I suffer from PPPD. But I still play video games

I was just thinking about this, no Contra on PC Engine :(Actually the Genesis got better support from Konami than the PCE. The PCE other than Rondo of Blood mostly got downgraded arcade ports while the Genesis got lot of exclusive and some awesome ones at that! I'm impressed by the japanese support the Genesis received despite that Sega wasn't a japanese company to begin (which is why the Genesis sold less than its rivals in Japan but in unbiased regions such as North America the Genesis was much more successful than the PCE (which was renamed Turbografx there) and on par with the SNES.

+Yohko M. Fully agree. Also not sure if the PC Engine could have handled a Contra on par with others 16-bit versions but I'd have been curious to see that.

Parallax Craze You can bet your ass it could. Would have been fantastic.

+Classic Modern Gaming What I can bet is that your a PC Engine fanboy. I don't see a single PC Engine game which comes remotely close to the best run 'n guns on Genesis or SNES. The few and good PC Engine run 'n guns are overhead games such as Bloody Wolf or Red Alert, both of which just look and sound like beefed-up NES stuff. But had the PC Engine got a port of the first Contra, that would have been already nice but even that didn't happen.

Madness? THIS IS SEEEEEGAAAAA!!!

I LOVE Contra III: The Alien Wars, but I do own a physical copy of Contra: Hard Corps which I have yet to play. Maybe I should one day, but those two Hard Corps levels that replaced the top down levels in the GBA version turnt me off of the Sega Genesis version. I’ll give it a go soon and play the complete game on the Sega Genesis.

@@NYCJoeBlack It was a bad idea to to mix the two games together.

@@slavicus2046 - I know why Konami did it, but I disagree. The GBA screen wasn’t too small for those two mode 7 top down levels. It could’ve worked. Replacing those levels with levels from Hard Corps seemed out of place and took away from the experience for me. Plus, with the lack of a second weapon and the elimination of bombs or very limited usage of it; those levels were difficult and boring.

Thank you!

Same with me, Alien Wars Soundtrack is simply put, boring. For an action game that's the biggest crime you can commit. Contra 1 and Super C even though 8-bit had soundtracks that pumped you up, nothing like that in Alien Wars to be honest. Can't remember almost a single track from that game other than stage clear and the first level.

While I agree, Contra 3 Stage 3, Neo Kobe Steel Factory OST is LIT lol. Otherwise, Hard Corps OST definitely takes the cake

If you ask me sega always seemed to have better music and sounds then snes

@@karlkani4458 especially in action games and fighting games

In fact, everything is better. Contra 3 objectively cannot win at any point.

+dramos ramos Awesome!

+Console Wars The dancing section was absolute gold! Here is my like and subscription. You guys have earned them both.

+Console Wars 1:31- Okay! First off, the word, "corps", has a similar pronunciation to the word, "core", not "corpse" (because both the letters "p" and "s" are silent).

+Console Wars 1:31- Proofreading!

the uncensored usa version?

English is not my first language, but I can clearly hear the same as you... By the way, I love the music on the Genesis versión of the game..

I can clearly hear someone talking under water... How is that good?!

Yes, it's clear, but it's still relatively bad, even for the Sega console. It's dull or low.

Excellent!

The wolf character is my favorite. #ChangeMyMind.

+thegr8fraz hahaha that was the best part of the video. so fitting

+Benny Palma right yea

Thank you.