@@forgottenman8629Outlaw the only party trying to make it so people can afford to live??? The only party trying to make it so that ordinary people working their lives away making someone else rich get to earn at least enough to stay alive between shifts? The only party fighting to prevent laws being reverted back to allow for child labor and to keep women out of the workplace? You think Republicans are the solution??? They’re the party that got us here today!
Living in a van is looked down upon by snooty people, and a retired couple living in an RV is more socially acceptable because they have money. Whomever has more money is the more acceptable one, according to snooty people who sneer their noses while sipping their tea with their pinky high in the air while speaking in a British accent.
Either one should be acceptable so long as the person follows reasonable rules. For example, trash should be kept in the vehicle and disposed of responsibly. Obviously the same for pee. If your van is large, either park overnight only and be gone by morning, rather than blocking the same house for weeks, or park in a lot or campground where it’s permitted, which might require a fee.
Go to LA and find out it's a big difference. Some are not using the RVs as crackdens to sell and smoke crack out of. There are those with their RU-vid channels that do this and those that work and save on housing... Then there are the other ones we see every day.
That still doesn't justify someone living on public land for free. Otherwise, by that logic, I should be able to build a house in a public park and live in it for free paying no property taxes, utilities, or rent. You want to live in your car, then the car needs to be parked in a private lot.
Good point if people could actually afford houses they wouldn't be forced to live in their cars. I found a documentary series on the subject ,it was very sad. But on the other hand, if the people that live in their cars because there is nowhere else to go suddenly got good jobs and bought houses, those rich idiots would only complain that they had to be nabers.
@FishmasTree2 I live in Ohio and rents are about $800. Not everyone is able to live in California. If you can't afford it, move somewhere cheaper. You aren't entitled to live in a house by the ocean just for breathing
It's a "big problem" to rich people to have to share the seashore with peasants. That man is upset that he sacrificed his life and integrity to gain wealth and it pains him to see people with different values and abilities be happy too.
This right here. Nailed it. It same way in mountains too. The rich NIMBYS don’t want peasants but they sure as hell like the cheap slave labor. Their dream is to have us all in prison and shipped to work as their slaves. It’s serfdom on steroids.
I've been living in my van for 3 years but am always respectful and considerate of the people who live nearby. I only park on residential streets at night and am gone in the morning. I'm 71 years old can't work and live on S.S. I've got no choice really. I don't blame the ocean beach residents for complaining and I support them. The people living in vans and cars should never cause problems like using the open areas for bathrooms and leaving trash around.
This is one huge factor that a lot of people overlook there are now an enormous amount of seniors and disabled people having to live this way because the only other option is a cardboard box on the sidewalk!
@@Daniel-wv5dgThe man is old. I am old and had to move away from my town as the rents went from affordable to ridiculous . I have a 2 bedroom 2 bath on a half acre now in Michigan for $700. Rent I live by myself. I hate it here and regret the move. It is better to live in your car in some places than to have a house in others. I sharpen knives for a living and travel much. It makes no sense to rent an empty house when I can sleep in my truck . I am usually the first customer at the coffee shop in the morning spending money. I am self employed for most of my life and never had a credit card. I was 18 years at my residence in Santa Cruz when disaster struck. Covid and evacuations from forest fires . I lost everything except my truck . Now folk would make me a criminal too . I am old and you make me tired of living . I am ashamed to be even human . Thanks.
My vehicle is worth almost 30k. Used to do it out of a 1k Corolla. Moving on up!! But even if I sold my car for 28k, it wouldn’t even be enough to cover my other debts, a down payment, a new car because I’ll need that for my job.. so I can’t find a good reason in selling it. It’s a lifeline to me. If I sell it for housing and I get kicked out or fear for my life because my roommate is crazy or something else happens, I’ll have nothing to take refuge in. F that!!
@@deltasource56 You were not respectful of me, when I returned from serving your lies in Iraq with disabling mental illness. You left me homeless while the VA neglected me. You are not welcome for my service.
That guy is upset because he had to pay $10 million for his 1500 sq. ft home while the van people didn't have to fork out that kind of money for the same view!
I remember being in San Diego in 2012 thinking “man this is really bad.” It’s only gonna get worse folks. That’s what happens when you make living a normal life impossible.
But is an ocean view “necessary” as part of coping with living in a vehicle? If I had paid millions of dollars for my home, I too would be upset If there are people crowding my neighborhood, urinating and defecating around my property.
@@rsximus you’re the same person who wants affordable housing, better public transportation, shelters, and drug treatment center but when the city wants to build it near your home you immediately go “NIMBY” Just because you bought an expensive ass home doesnt mean you get special privileges.
I swear i saw a video not too long ago where they said sleeping in your car in CA is illegal. A homeless woman said she was ticketed for sleeping in her car, so now she has to leave her car and sleep outside in a park where crimes happen on the reg.
You're crying because people can't afford rent and have to live in there cars, THE country is going to hell at least they have a vehicle to get out of the weather !
People can camp all they want, just not wherever they want. For some of these folks, any rule is one too many. More of that don’t tread on me attitude, run a mock. This can be resolved by simply enforcing the rules as they are written. No overnight camping in the city, period.
some are totally off the grid due to rules and regs they can't or wont follow....its odd. they'd rather live in a vehicle then abide....@@sammorales3528
Many working class people are forced to live in vehicles because rent is wayyyy to high. My house payment was $375/mo in 2008 when I purchased this house new. I could rent it for $1500/mo today. That’s ridiculous!
Don’t sleep here, don’t sleep there, don’t sleep anywhere. Oh and if you want to sleep in a house, you better pay up! Because sleeping, safety, and security will cost you. Just ridiculous. Punish instead of providing a reasonable solution.
“Nobody wants people sleeping around their home!” I think your house neighbors sleep sometimes. They might even take naps and be sleeping right now, those heathens.
Back when i was living with my dad we had this dude who parked outside our house we met the guy ended up being good friends with him straight up was like baving our own private security
Exactly 💯 I piss in jugs and empty them in the porta johns . Definitely not pissing on the sidewalk. That's a good way to catch indecent exposure charge where I'm from
Lots of people pee outside. So, if you see a surfer come in from a session, take off his wetsuit, and pee next to his truck would you advocate to ban surfing? Makes no sense.
I’ve had people tell me that living in a vehicle should be illegal because people that live in their vehicle leave garbage. But I live in my vehicle and, not only do I not leave garbage but often I pick up garbage that isn’t mine. People love to make rules and love to tell others what they can and cannot do. They don’t consider the collateral damage that it causes for people who are innocently trying to live a more peaceful, less expensive, simpler existence.
People who buy homes in those communities have to pay heavy property taxes to live there, as other chose to live in their cars reap the benefits... Doesn't seem fair..
@@DELTACO..UBERDRIVER..STOCKS.. Notice that the majority of America is white and therefor the odds are, this man is white. Notice how you never make progress with racial disparities, by bringing up racial disparities in every single topic. You become nothing more than a pest. Keep self-defeating, chump.
@@az.nativeyes u have that right and if I could find away I would be doing the same but everything is $$$and that I can’t do anymore so my kids r grown and I have a dream of living in the woods away form dickheads,(maybe not all) but we’re gifted with that kinda living on the beach lifestyle with no worries except for a few vans blocking there view that they probably never use ,,it’s just complaining about the people that they think are lower then em cause they got the best of whatever they think is life and better then the one’s really living life…I’m so jealous of the ones that can be free and glad to not be one of those people if u wanna call em that that think there living a better life because they had to pay or mom dad had to pay anyways ….live life and don’t worry about anything but happiness and that is what I’m seeking,,most people that think like me just need a acre of land and that’s way more to me and a lot more instead of showing off to ur neighbors that u gotta better paid for when life sh……..sorry about the book bro just got me fucckedup
I camp in my Suburban for travel softball. I find a Love's truck stop. They have restrooms and showers. You see other people living in their vehicles there also.
Dude said housing shortage 😕 didn't even mention housing affordability. Where in America is a single bedroom up under 1200.00!!? Then if u find one the landlord has a special set of expenses for you.
I live in my RV. I’ve traveled all over the country. All the laws seem to prohibit sleeping in your vehicle. That is what people object to. That is what our society objects to. Sleeping. As long as you’re not sleeping in your rig, you’re good. Falling asleep is the thing that makes you a criminal in most places. Sleeping is a crime. Which always seemed strange to me because sleeping is about the most harmless thing one can do.
California is a huge state, there are huge swaths of wide open desert. There's huge swaths of wide open desert in AZ. 25% of AZ is State Trust Land. For a nominal fee you register with the state and get a pass (the legal way to do it) then you can camp on the State Trust Land for up to two weeks at a time before having to move. The same for federal BLM lands... The problem is California is greedy. There are plenty of towns in California that could benefit from the vanlifers/RVers like Quartzsite AZ does. Offer some basic services, security and a place to camp/boondock for a nominal fee. Most of our rigs are self contained and our creature comforts run off solar. Where the government sees burden, I see opportunity.
Yep that's my retirement plan, camper van, combination of boondocking and RV Parks , beats the shit out of renting a room from someone or splitting a 1 bedroom 3 ways,,,, The greed in this country is responsible for this...
Maybe, if they don't make it basically illegal first. They're trying to force people to stay in RV parks, and they'll penalize you and ticket you for public parking wherever they can. It's absolutely sickening. When I'm travelling in mine, I can hardly go a night without police knocking on my window and acting like I'm a criminal. And RV parks charge at least 600-800 a month even for a van, the more expensive ones are over 1000 a month, making it totally pointless. Just like the government wants
Its better than living in a tent or on the sidewalk. When is enough enough for harassing poor people? You dont pay us enough while you sleep in homes and then you harass us for not having anywhere to go.
They can go to "formal" camping-allowed parking lots and PAY there to stay overnight. But these clowns are avoiding paying by just parking wherever, and until the signs that say no overnight parking are actually enforced with patrols kicking people out and handing out tickets or impounding, it will never change
Perhaps you should take the train and live within your means. Increase your credit score and integrity so people will feel comfortable and confident that you will pay for financial obligations.
"We have people who have chosen to live in their cars" Yeah, because their jobs do not pay enough to rent the crappiest apartment in the city where they work. Have the city tow their car and you are going to have the exact same person living in a tent on the sidewalk because towing his car did nothing about the high rent or the low pay.
I absolutely love the support in these comments. It’s good to know people understand what it’s like out here. Thank you! And remember, gas could be $20/gallon next week.
That's Good. Especially during these Uncertain times. Just have to be a Incognito 🌝 Vehicle Dweller nowadays, apparently it's a Crime Now to Live out of your own Registered Vehicle
@@thomasgentry6201 The real controversy, is your apparent inability to better manage your media consumption so you can stop whining and bitching about the news stories YOU CHOSE to watch.
They say "choose to" because that gives them room to keep finger pointing and say "see, they make bad choices" meaning it is now ok to allow people to live in cars or like animals on the streets and they can "normalize" the plight of those less fortunate. I hear it all the time. Remember it only takes one bad choice to hit bottom and no one will help. Fear based thinking and fear-based philosophy.
@@williamryan9195 My "bad choice" that led to my homelessness, was enlisting to serve ungrateful republicans on 9/11. I should have done something better with my future, better than invading innocent people over a crock of bullshit just to be left without the help I am owed when I came back with severe mental illness.
@@williamryan9195so what is the next choice to not work and park your van in the most prestigious part of town where people pay millions to live? Stop peddling your nonsense. These people are utter freeloaders in every sense of the word
SORRY, BUT NOT SORRY. WHY? BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE WILL VOTE FOR THE SAME PEOPLE THAT PUT THEM IN THEIR SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE. CALIFORNIA IS ALL DEMOCRATS. WHO WILL YOU BLAME? I'LL WAIT. 🤨🤔😏
@@williamryan9195 no, they CHOSE to do this because they have been an abject failure in the rest of their lives and they want to cry about it. YOUR failure is NOT MY CRISIS.
Last I checked this is America and people are free to live in a car. If they’re illegally parked that’s another story but laws about living in cars/vans are an over step.
I am a homeowner. No matter where you live, there are circumstances that may or may not add to your discomfort. Live by a golf course, baseball field, you may endup with broken windows. Live by a school, you wil have kids walking by, late night games, dances, etc. If you live at a big lake, you will have campers. If you live by the beach (you lucky duck), you will have beach goers. I personally wouldn't want a house on the beach for that reason. Look at Spring Break!! I do however have my van to periodically vanlife in.......
Some of those van-lifers are senior citizens who have nowhere else to go. Most have full-time jobs. Why don't they develop a safe spot for people to sleep, and move out during the day.
Imagine having a job where you get to vote for your own pay raise. Being a government official should be unpaid. It breeds greed and corruption the moment they are paid.
@@siennavanlife9502 Government employees should never be allowed to form unions ,since they literally create the laws and regulations of employment. It's a human centipede situation.
@@lucien4980 Minimum wage is $20 per hour now, unions didn't do that, government did. Enjoy your $20 Big Mac meal if you can find a restaurant still open. Get it?
"How dare you not pay me 2.5k/month for a studio apartment and live in your fully-owned vehicle to which I cannot spontaneously kick you out of for a made up excuse?" - Real estate owners
Yeah I read it’s real estate companies lobbying a lot of governments to make laws for no parking on streets overnight or sleeping in vehicles. So many towns now have no overnight parking on city streets! This is why.
Prolly upset cause they aren’t paying property tax on property they already bought and paid taxes on when they bought it. This country is greedy as all hell.
I agree with the homeowners to a point. For those vans and RV's that are well equipped, with a bathroom, for example, I don't see a problem. As long as they are respectful of their surroundings. But those who trash their surroundings, should be made to leave.
Because they use wherever they are to use the toilet. First can buy said he repairs nets. Get a freaking real job. If like to be a drifter and experience like too but not going to abuse others do here I am working.
Along with all the other surprises. Here are a few: 1. Credit score must at least 670 or higher. 2. If you are under 23😳 you must have a co-signer. 3. Must have 6 months worth of pay stubs. 4. We need 6 months worth of bank statements. 5. Application fee $75/$125 6. Administrative fees $125/$250 7. If you have fishes $70 a month and no more than two fishes per tank, and the tank cannot be over 30 gallons. The list goes on and on.
@@zeemc2751 Those are called standards and requirements and if you cannot meet those standards then you need to make the necessary changes or find another source of housing. This world does not owe you ANYTHING.
Those people chose a highly desirable location to illegally camp. They didn’t do that because of housing insecurity. There are plenty of free and inexpensive places to car camp. Most all of us want to enjoy beach front property too. We simply wouldn’t do it illegally and cheat others to get it. The campers should leave at night and come back the next day to give everyone equal access to beach front parking.
Privileged ?! Youre an idiot. Hard, CONSISTENT work, and sacrifices have to be made to be a responsible, respectable self sustaining citizen. Youre clearly the voice of just another handout. How you adjust to living with that shame it mind-blowing.
@@anglophile6621 I was homeless for a while when I returned from serving your lies in Iraq, I have severe PTSD. I was turned away from the VA and attempted suicide, just to survive with a traumatic brain injury to greatly complicate the PTSD. I was fired from the last FOURTEEN jobs I held, for PTSD-related problems. An average of 40 Veterans a day commit suicide and there currently are over 35,000 homeless veterans in America. Stop judging strangers. You are not welcome for my service. The help you owe me wasn't FREE. It cost my sanity and future, and you literally owe it to me. Nobody fucking cares about your privilege of beachfront property, when you don't care about the patriots who made that possible.
I hate that peoples' only solution to "a few bad apples" is EVERYONE is banned from doing it. If a guy is pissing out his door, yes, fine him and make him move on. If you're a van lifer passing through, just let them stay.
How about a law that states, If any mobile vehicle or structure is used as an rv or home, they have to be on private property or an RV park or get towed after 24 hours?
Exactly as long as it doesn’t say no overnight then ppl should mind they business! To even put the man on the news as if we should care or if his word is above others or like he owns the beach, is shit starting on the news part! We are free ppl if no laws are being broken and nobody hurt, they need to look in the mirror sweep around they own front door and leave ppl the hell alone
They'd rather push for laws to prohibit people from living in their vehicles than push for a solution to avoid people from having to live in their vehicles in the first place. This is getting scary...
I'm not choosing to live in my car. Give me an affordable apartment then. Until then, if I'm not bothering anyone or doing anything nasty like public urination, then shut up and stay in your nice home.
Leave ppl alone!!! Stop telling people how they should live their life! Make it affordable to live and people would be much happier than having to live in their car! Sick and tired of ppl telling ppl how to live without help! Especially our government that are spending our hard earned money on their raises and their own special interest groups. Buzz off!!
Im loving all the supportive comments here 💜🌻 Housing is no longer affordable. You can have a full time job and not be able to even afford a studio. Its heartbreaking. The American dream died one little inflation and tax increase at a time and here we are 🤷
@@tsideas5541 Yeah I was living in my shitty Ford Focus before, full of mechanical problems. I specifically chose the Sienna for the space and reliability.
Its one thing to say people are forced to live in their car, its another when someone chooses to reside in their vehicle but also abide by laws when they do it.
A big problem bc the dam city refuses to set up full time unisex restrooms for residents, in secure areas, so that people can live in the vans in a healthy environment. No one wants to urinate in the road! Duh!
Seems our government is accountable for this. I was living in a one bedroom apartment, my lease was coming up for renewal, I did not renew because it was going up to $1400.00 and I told the manager that I was not paying. So, now I have to live with my son and his significant other, I hate it and he wants me to leave. I live on SS $1086.00 and a small pension. If it wasn’t for him I’d be on the streets with so others but, sometimes I wish I was while living here. By the way, I am 69 yrs old tried to get help from the state and of course I was turned away like so many others.
I'm CHOOSING to be HOUSELESS... Not HOMELESS. Big difference. I'm sick of the headache of owning a home. On top of the costs. Property taxes and homeowner insurance have MORE THAN DOUBLED in the last 5 years!! It's ridiculous. Can't wait to get my van/tiny home built and get out on the road to freedom
It's the whole not in my back yard mentality that disgusts me. These people aren't hurting anyone, and the sky-high rents are insane. Leave them alone.
Over 35,000 of the homeless population in America are war veterans. Nobody fucking cares about the privilege of ungrateful assholes who harass the patriots who made it possible.
How do u know they aren't hurting anyone? U think it helps homeowner property values having those vans parked all over? U want to see people missing and shitting in the streets?
@Johnis2nd really? Is that what they are doing? You're absolutely ridiculous- can't have an intelligent discussion with someone who'd make such an ignorant comment.
There's not a single thing wrong with this, in fact inflation needs to speed up so that the homeowners either move away or become homeless themselves. We won't see true change in this country until that happens in every city and every town and there's nowhere left to escape to.
I hear yea, yes it will get that bad you will own nothing and be happy, but I dont think they will get that far, I see based on bible prophecy we are in the latter part of the last days where psalms 37:10-11 is going to be fulfilled. so those in the united nations will fail in getting their new world order if they do it will be very short lived.
If you pay to register your vehicle your taxes are paid as long as you move your vehicle every day no one has a right to tell you where you can park as long as you fallow the laws and don't use the city streets as your public bathroom.
I am a trucker and live in my truck most of the time the problem is, is that one jerk makes everybody look bad. Everybody doesn’t get out of your truck or their van and piss in the parking lot but that’s the story that’s the sum of the story that somebody was pissing all over somebody’s happy place. Good job.
Americans are out of control at this point. Too many of us are under the impression that we get to say what happens in public streets, public buildings, public schools, public property period, so that we don’t have to see or deal with anything that inconveniences us or makes us feel uncomfortable. This country is going to hell in a hand basket, bro. But that’s fine, I guess, as long as we don’t have to look at any homeless or poor people. 🙄
The crazy thing is, some of the worst offenders are people who have homes and simply dwell in their vehicles to surf or make content. It's a tough situation all around, but the lack of compassion all around is crazy
Not in a parking lot where it says NO OVERNIGHT PARKING. The laws don't apply to these people? What does the cost of rent have to do with these particular people parking in this particular parking lot where it is not allowed? MOVE YOUR FREAKING VEHICLE. IT'S NOT A RESORT.
@@MrsPicklesIsHome I'm a vanlifer and I agree. I don't stay anywhere longer than a few days and never park anywhere I'm not allowed even if it means driving a hundred miles to find a place I am. In addition to my day job that's 100% remote, I own a business and a lot of my customers don't mind if I park in their lot overnight. It's added security for them. Also I'm 100% self contained as are most other vanlifers I know of. I've never seen a vanlifer peeing outside their vehicle. I've seen plenty of homeless people do it, all around the country. Vanlifers aren't 'homeless' they are 'houseless', there's a freaking difference. Just because you're a slave to your 30 year mortgage, don't blame us.
@MrsPicklesIsHome Yes. Living in dignity!! Incase it has slipped your mind many Americans are struggling to afford housing in 2024. If you do the math, you'll see that in order to afford an apartment @$1300.00 per month as well as the landlords demands on × 3 monthly income you'll see that one must make 4000 dollars per month to afford that. That's $30.00 an hour income. Do the math. Don't sit on here trying to act like a jerk.
@MrsPicklesIsHome it appears that you don't have respect for people who just want to survive. They deserve to survive as well. Where would you like people to go who don't make $30.00 per hour @ 40 hours every week? Seriously where ??? Ignorance at its finest.
