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Core Platform Game Developers Can Now Make Money!* 

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*Well, some can. Manticore Games just launched a new program for their currently alpha Core game engine/platform, where developers get paid simply by the number of players that play their games. During this pilot program however, the number of seats available is limited.
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@gamefromscratch
@gamefromscratch 4 года назад
Link: www.gamefromscratch.com/post/2020/07/08/Core-Platform-Launch-Pilot-Monetization-Program.aspx
@Lavonne1
@Lavonne1 4 года назад
You should do a video on your growth on RU-vid. Dos and don'ts.
@disruptive_innovator
@disruptive_innovator 4 года назад
Great, now the one thing I really want to do with Core is bring in my own assets.
@KingThatGuy
@KingThatGuy 2 года назад
No
@theanimelibarian7881
@theanimelibarian7881 4 года назад
So a game engine based on a game engine
@AbstractType1
@AbstractType1 4 года назад
Ikr, not even a great improvement over UE4
@Narblo
@Narblo 4 года назад
they are using the "Game engine" name bad. They build an editor on top of UE so is another editor for UE and maybe they added LUA support to the engine but it aint different from UE
@theanimelibarian7881
@theanimelibarian7881 4 года назад
@@Narblo wow that's sad
@Amipotsophspond
@Amipotsophspond 3 года назад
I am thinking Godot and Blender was getting too good and so unity had to make something to pull users. I bet it makes users want to "upgrade" to unity.
@descampsf
@descampsf 4 года назад
Excellent video! Thanks! :-)
4 года назад
"I will talk to you all later." and where is our "Goodbye"? We need it along with the opening phrase "Hello Ladies and Gentlemen, Mike's here from GameFromScratch"...
@gamefromscratch
@gamefromscratch 4 года назад
I didn't realize I had any consistently in how I signed off.
@CrissCrash
@CrissCrash 3 года назад
6:15 thank me later
@majine.2606
@majine.2606 4 года назад
Without an ability to branch out of the assets the developers provide, I see the games made with this thing becoming quite the visual bores. Over the short term, this wouldn't be too noticeable, what with the variety of options, but if they want this engine to hold its own over the course of years, then I definitely do not think they should mandate what is essentially an asset flip-esque ecosystem.
@riidom
@riidom 4 года назад
Well, people get tricky about that. It will probably result in a high polycount because items will be stuck into each other in masses to achieve certain effects, but this can go a pretty long way. Especially so, if they keep feeding new asset sets regularly. But I wonder if these will be for free.
@majine.2606
@majine.2606 4 года назад
@NPC Both you and Dominik R make good points. This engine likely won't face too much trouble on the hobbyist end of things, but the professional, monetary games that are made with it will face a limitation in marketing. A unique art style can be key in getting people to pay attention to your game compared to the thousand others that exist, and I feel this limitation will make it a lot harder for people to stand out on the storefront.
@phonzeh
@phonzeh 4 года назад
What ever happened to Project Spark?
@ojasthengadi9681
@ojasthengadi9681 4 года назад
They should provide sculpting options like dreams if they arent going to allow asset imports or there is now way this can compete with UE or unity.
@sloganwade4994
@sloganwade4994 2 года назад
They're working on it. They already have a voxel based terrain system and I'm sure it's just a matter of time before they expand the sculpting tools for use on all meshes. If they haven't already, I'm just now getting into it and learning how to use everything.
@takashy87
@takashy87 4 года назад
it seems nice, like some sort of "3D RPG maker", except that you can't put in your own content or release it outside of their platform.. making it rather.. limited, no ?
@riidom
@riidom 4 года назад
Well you use their platform, you use their marketing. Given all the users they can drag in (or can not, we will see), you only have to compete with other Core Games of the same genre. And the limitation of just kitbashing is a strength, because everyone can do it. I mean everybody who insists on bringing their own assets, really has enough game engines to pick from.
@takashy87
@takashy87 4 года назад
​@@riidom Yeah, but the issue is getting people to actually use the platform. If devs want to release a game on a platform with the most potential sales, then they'll probably stick to a engine where they're not limited to a single platform and able to create anything, compared to "limited content". Might just be me, but I feel like there's not that much going for this one, when you have so many other options to pick from, that let you release stuff on various platforms and marketplaces. ^_^" It certainly seems cool for those getting started and wanting to learn how things are made, but I wouldn't really expect any devs interested in making $ to even consider this :/
@riidom
@riidom 4 года назад
@@takashy87 yea it depends on a whole lot of things that is not clear yet, for example what they do after they are done throwing random money at devs
@gurkis.
@gurkis. 4 года назад
@@takashy87 this isnt really a game engine, its more like roblox or fortnite creative.
@tiefsoftwarelab
@tiefsoftwarelab 3 года назад
hi how are you ? nice to meet you!
@nyn2k259
@nyn2k259 3 года назад
Does it have side scrolling templates???
@LioncatDevStudio
@LioncatDevStudio 4 года назад
Now this seems interesting
@ozunaga6184
@ozunaga6184 4 года назад
Nice! Would love to start creating! Do they have Linux support?
@MisterioJudaS
@MisterioJudaS 4 года назад
great question
@Nagul08
@Nagul08 3 года назад
Yes
@nighatabdullah3316
@nighatabdullah3316 3 года назад
No, only pc
@jegobo4762
@jegobo4762 3 года назад
@@nighatabdullah3316 linux is pc smh
@shlokjha6890
@shlokjha6890 2 года назад
! Only for window
@SeelkadoomPL
@SeelkadoomPL 4 года назад
Now, there is a question of who keeps the rights to the games. If the creator, cool/ If Manticore? They are throwing money around hoping that you invent next Dota or CS for them
@riidom
@riidom 4 года назад
This. It's "as a Service" to the core (uff pun detected lol). I didn't read their business details, but I bet you own nothing.
@bearsoundzMusic
@bearsoundzMusic 4 года назад
@@riidom Businesses model-detail That is the ugly stuff.. You see -*everything* you make in Core *belongs to* as in *is owned* by Manticore! Read the EULA!
@riidom
@riidom 4 года назад
@@bearsoundzMusic Thanks for clarifying! I would have read, if I actually could use it, but I feel there won't be a linux version coming anytime soon, so I'm out anyway.
@MR3DDev
@MR3DDev 4 года назад
"You can't bring your own assets" This is a dead engine already.
@themerpheus
@themerpheus 4 года назад
It is more like the "Dreams" for PS4.
@SoultrailStudio
@SoultrailStudio 4 года назад
@@themerpheus KitBashing. It is not aimed at full one man developers who already can code and use blender or maya but more for those with lack of knowledge is specific topic so Core is like a helping hand to get into this "Bulding Games" Scene.
@riidom
@riidom 4 года назад
This concept is what made SL famous in 2007. Everyone can be a creator. Open world building games (e.g. Rising World) scratch a similar itch basically.
@MashMaloCircus
@MashMaloCircus 3 года назад
It's just super mario maker, we already have unity or godot if you really want a free game engine
@jatrovymnam8178
@jatrovymnam8178 3 года назад
it is good fore prototype so yea btw alot ppl use it now :DD
@lukakudavis6443
@lukakudavis6443 3 года назад
Can you export your games to Console or mobile. Or Can you download the game and then publish it??
@SciPunk
@SciPunk 3 года назад
No
@HalkerVeil
@HalkerVeil 4 года назад
Soon as they lose their license it's lights out for every game made on it.
@user-uc8xt1sp3z
@user-uc8xt1sp3z 4 года назад
@NPC same with Roblox, they have a 30 million budget so I think that they're staying for good.
@krukhlis
@krukhlis 4 года назад
I think there are 3 main issues with Core GE: 1) You can't import custom assets, because of the legal/copyright issues -- there are no guarantees it's yours or you have a license to use it in any project. Considering the game is hosted and promoted on Manticore Games servers -- all the legal issues will hit them, not the tiny pirate. That's why they provide their own models, sounds and music and means to combine them in something new, but they will not allow you to import yours. 2) I can't get how you can design your game with Core against anything else then Windows 10 platform. They officially say it's the only option as for now. 3) Considering it's based on UE -- I can't get who's gona pay money back to EPIC after free threshold. Will Manticore Games cover these expenses or they will subtract this fee from author's pay-per-play income?
@SeelkadoomPL
@SeelkadoomPL 4 года назад
Regarding 3, you're not making money using unreal engine - you did not sign any agreement with Epic, so it's Manticore who have to worry about the cut - at least that's my guess.
@krukhlis
@krukhlis 4 года назад
​@@SeelkadoomPL I am not a lawyer that's why I can't say for sure. You are still using UE, even considering the fact it's hidden from you under the hood of Core. But in any cases, it's really interesting to have clear understanding about Manticore-Epic agreement and the way how licensing and pricing of UE through the Core works for the end developer.
@highwaywarrior0
@highwaywarrior0 4 года назад
but you can make money in roblox too and you can import your own assets, how did they get over the legal issues?
@krukhlis
@krukhlis 4 года назад
​@@highwaywarrior0 Don't know, I was never a fan of roblox and these custom boxy-games. Either they have special notice in dev license regarding full responsibility of developer. Either they have special department that validates licensing of the content. To me it's even more interesting, because few years ago Roblox Corporation has started common business with Jazwares to manufacture and sell action figures and collectables based on the content of the different users games available in games made with Roblox platform. These remind me some Lego collectables. It's interesting if creator of the actual model and game gets some money from sales of collectables based on his intellectual property. Or it's part of legal agreements with Roblox coprporation -- if you want to use our platform for your game -- you should give us full rights to monetize your content in any form. I have no clue. :(
@ericford3653
@ericford3653 3 года назад
Is an HP laptop good enough to design for this game?
@zxspectrum3352
@zxspectrum3352 4 года назад
Interesting :)
@UTTheLaw
@UTTheLaw 4 года назад
Much like Crayta on Stadia. .. Very much the same.
@sgotach_7581
@sgotach_7581 3 года назад
And I never went back to roblox again, except nostalgia and theme park tycoon 2
@jacksontaylor4352
@jacksontaylor4352 3 года назад
What is the age requirement for getting paid?
@bearsoundzMusic
@bearsoundzMusic 4 года назад
That is *exactly* how platforms like *Atmosphir* and *Gameglobe* _ought_ to have done. Instead they optioned for shafting their developer-group, with insane micro-transactions, and hence.. They are no more with us.. Dead gone folded Atm. There are several platforms that offers similar features (MANU, Playcraft, ao GameBuilder), but this one eg Core, seams to have understood, that dedicated devs can be a huge asset! Devs will make games, and Manticore can earn money from advertising on the pages ao in the start of a game. It all looks wonderful. But it is _not_ all *that* wonderful There is a catch.. Yes All Tools for making your game is free However Everything you do make with the tools *belongs to Manticore!* When you read the EULA, you will find that you give away every creative and intellectual rights to Manticore! So.. Yes if you manage it to ..i guess we could call it 'partner' or affiliated dev (one of 100..!) -*Then* you may earn some money from your creations, but your actual games *belong* to Manticore.. if you do not make 'partner', then everything you make will *still* belong to Manticore, and you will make zip/nada/ nought!
@ebrastudios3050
@ebrastudios3050 3 года назад
Sound nice but not sure who can go to play these games when they need the core itself to play
@ferdicuyar814
@ferdicuyar814 3 года назад
How do we fix performance problems? I played that farming game and my grapic card got difficulty with this simple graphics
@anormalguy8407
@anormalguy8407 2 года назад
true, the performance is terrible lol. I have only worked in Unity so far but I'm assuming it's doing allot of unnecessary things constantly. Like having everything loaded and running at once and not being able to disable and enable things on the fly
@ferdicuyar814
@ferdicuyar814 2 года назад
@@anormalguy8407 İ figured out that they are not giving any support to developers. they dont even care to reply so i gave up on developing at that platform. by the way i got a good graphic card
@ronan3183
@ronan3183 3 года назад
Disney infinity toybox vibes
@PythonAnimations4390
@PythonAnimations4390 4 года назад
I just wanted to know if it was a yes or no😢
@GETSTICKBUGGEDLOL
@GETSTICKBUGGEDLOL 4 года назад
Want to Get rich just make alts and play your game
@lonewolfenock3527
@lonewolfenock3527 4 года назад
Anyone else noticed the "POWERED BY UNREAL ENGINE" on the loading screen? =D
@JohnSmithULIR0
@JohnSmithULIR0 4 года назад
Anyone else noticed he mentioned it at 0:13 =D
@lonewolfenock3527
@lonewolfenock3527 4 года назад
@@JohnSmithULIR0 *duh* I noticed after running Core =D
@kenshin_cy3719
@kenshin_cy3719 3 года назад
can i run it on low end pc
@WapourVave
@WapourVave 4 года назад
How did the Source Engine do THAT?
@majicktek5051
@majicktek5051 4 года назад
He said Unreal not Source
@WapourVave
@WapourVave 4 года назад
@@majicktek5051 Yeah its crazy how far Valve have come
@TeyGD
@TeyGD 4 года назад
@@WapourVave You're a gem.❤️
@brutal6129
@brutal6129 4 года назад
@@majicktek5051 it's a joke
@themichaelconnor42
@themichaelconnor42 4 года назад
*candelabra
@btarg1
@btarg1 4 года назад
Roblox or Dreams for PC, maybe similar to S&Box
@aaronwise1089
@aaronwise1089 3 года назад
Whoa that’s awesome and impressive and interesting soo cool I know I am going to use this to make money then
@birdseyeview1437
@birdseyeview1437 3 года назад
It says you could earn 1500$, that is a nice way of saying if you get much much more people playing your game we will still only give you what we deem fit. Its like an open ended contract which doesn't really mean anything. This bothers me. If they said you will earn that, I would be much happier.
@highwaywarrior0
@highwaywarrior0 4 года назад
anyone know/remember gameglobe?
@bearsoundzMusic
@bearsoundzMusic 4 года назад
YES! And Atmosphir, before gameglobe, but they shafted their Devs in ways that belongs to GoT.. But DO read the EULA for CORE, because they owns what you make! (Read my post of Juli 9.)
@highwaywarrior0
@highwaywarrior0 4 года назад
@@bearsoundzMusic i dont think i will use core since im using real game engines now.
@noiryork101
@noiryork101 4 года назад
You can't bring your own assets????? What the....!!!!
@CariagaXIII
@CariagaXIII 4 года назад
its a subengine
@HatsuneMiku-lk5ii
@HatsuneMiku-lk5ii 4 года назад
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@HatsuneMiku-lk5ii
@HatsuneMiku-lk5ii 4 года назад
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@vgamedude12
@vgamedude12 3 года назад
lmao this comment is too cute
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodcl4824
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodcl4824 3 года назад
@@vgamedude12 you know this is a joke comment
@vince4417
@vince4417 4 года назад
It looks like Fortnite mod engine.
@TeyGD
@TeyGD 4 года назад
It's already not it's own engine. Any game you develop will be subject to their initial TOS at all times. You can't import your own assets. I don't see the point, but love your videos as always. P.S: Yall drop a like on this video. Mike deserves it.
@WorstDeveloper
@WorstDeveloper 4 года назад
I don't understand how they are going to make back the money they pay developers. It also feels quite risky to develop a game and have no control over it legally.
@bearsoundzMusic
@bearsoundzMusic 4 года назад
Advertising on their platform-page, and before you get to play a game. But they (Manticore) does not play nicely. You MUST read the EULA! They *OWN* everything you make!
@mehmeh8883
@mehmeh8883 4 года назад
Looking forward to tiz engine.
@Bashar3A
@Bashar3A 4 года назад
The current payment model is great to help designers focus on game play. But is widely open for abuse as the platform grows. Curios to know what measures Core has in place for this. Edit: OK, seems this is $1 million give away for now. So moving ahead, they will probably find new models.
@vgamedude12
@vgamedude12 3 года назад
The payment model is nice. Better for the players than something like Roblox which is absolutely infested with micro transactions and bad business I still won't be using it. I don't want to make things someone else has the rights to unless it's undeniably and unavoidably lucrative.
@containedhurricane
@containedhurricane 4 года назад
It sucks. I thought it was a new game engine
@vickymeradhwal
@vickymeradhwal 3 года назад
It just doesn't install failed many attempts internet data loss
@fragarena9910
@fragarena9910 4 года назад
roblox 2.0 ?
@rafifzayer7109
@rafifzayer7109 3 года назад
Core is a copy of ROBLOX but its much better than roblox.
@markeyboi6545
@markeyboi6545 4 года назад
So someone decided to take Unreal Engine and turn it into ROBLOX. This engine is dead for everyone except young teenagers messing around with game development (i.e. the same audience ROBLOX enjoys).
@jlewwis1995
@jlewwis1995 4 года назад
Nah this "engine" is even worse than roblox since you literally cant even import your own assets, even roblox is more lenient in that regard, this is basically going to he DOA I suspect since there are far better more established and more open "game in a game" platforms out there even for inexperienced devs
@TeyGD
@TeyGD 4 года назад
@@jlewwis1995 Oof. Great point. Never thought I'd say this, but props to Roblox.
@shlokjha6890
@shlokjha6890 2 года назад
It is an dead engine
@morfy2581
@morfy2581 4 года назад
roblox without the ugly fake minecraft models.
@GETSTICKBUGGEDLOL
@GETSTICKBUGGEDLOL 4 года назад
Morfy ? Lol there are free model asset on core
@morfy2581
@morfy2581 4 года назад
@@GETSTICKBUGGEDLOL did you even read my comment.
@GETSTICKBUGGEDLOL
@GETSTICKBUGGEDLOL 4 года назад
Morfy ? Yeah i did You said roblox without fake minecraft models aka free models
@TeyGD
@TeyGD 4 года назад
Roblox++
@ValiantPride
@ValiantPride 3 года назад
Also there's plenty of assets created by the community too. So you can import it into your project and adjust things to your liking.
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